I really loved your detailed response videos to the Perry's podcast. I think it would be great if you edited a few of your responses and turned them into several short clips (including the accusation from the podcast with the response/fact) so that it can reach even more people as most people won't sit down and watch an entire hour long video.
I've been seeing it's easy to believe a lie when you are not sufficiently motivated to seek for the truth. And it's hard to listen to these guys tell me what Adventists believe when they don't care enough to actually look into it for themselves. Unless they enjoy the lie.
It doesn’t feel good to be misrepresented… does it? At least tell the truth / learn the truth so you can tell what the other people believe to their face and they can say “ yes! That is what I believe” even if you don’t agree with it - but don’t say things that are not true ❤❤❤
Why all this worrying about what others believe and us all do what Jesus commanded us to do ! Go into all the world with the gospel so He will come soon
I'm not pro or anti!!! Just dont understand all the arguments..about what sda believe or what others say they believe!!! Seems futile a large wast of gospel preaching time and sad1💙💙💙
Amen, I can't agree with you more. They just want to confuse others to not come to the truth of God's Word. No matter what they do, God's remnant will come to the truth. They want to tell us what we believe which is far from the truth. This is the work of Satan to turn them away from the Sabbath, that's his main objective
I hope you’re putting some of these clips on IG and TikTok as reels & as shorts on RUclips because that’ll draw many to more these full length videos are up. Also, I’d like your slides, please.
@@gordo191 Prayer is where it’s at! We need to pray for those who are seeking the truth to be able to see Through the deceptions of the ENEMY. though it seems like a good thing to worry about what others think about our church … prayer is effective!!! Those who have a LOVE FOR THE TRUTH ARE Jesus sheep, the Truth seekers will discover what God has for him or her to see and find gems of truth that the spirit of God will lead them to, and they will see the truth, if this is what they wish to find ! We are living in a time that deception is ALL AROUND US!! At every turn…. As it was foretold to us by my lord and savior Jesus. God will lead his sheep to the truth, they must be sincere seekers - with no motivations but only to love the truth: “And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 KJV
@@brother_Tennessee nobody is aware they are being deceived… so important to have a love for the truth … “even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 KJV
The Holy Spirit said in Hebrews 2:16 For verily he (Jesus), took NOT on him the nature of angels; Michael is not Jesus. Jesus is not Michael. "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, Col 2:18 JWs and LDS support you. Why you are a cult???? I will exult HIM! Awesome GOD!
Elce is a very deliberate, calculated disgruntled ex-adventist, and they can be the worst lying snakes in the world, he will be responsible for the soul that he is leading a stray into darkness. May God have mercy on him, Elce can you stop leading people astray deliberately. Praying for you.
The Holy Spirit said in Hebrews 2:16 For verily he (Jesus), took NOT on him the nature of angels; Michael is not Jesus. Jesus is not Michael. "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on ....... worship of angels, Col 2:18 JWs and LDS and you leading people astray. Why you are a cult???? I will exult HIM! Awesome GOD!
Dear God, I pray for everyone who comes across this message to hear your voice and experience you in fullness. I pray for the Holy Spirit to lead them into the truth. Father, have mercy on us all. May your will oh God be done on earth as it is in heaven. In Jesus name
The Holy Spirit said in Hebrews 2:16 For verily he (Jesus), took NOT on him the nature of angels; Michael is not Jesus. Jesus is not Michael. "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on ....... worship of angels, Col 2:18 JWs and LDS and you. Why you are a cult???? I will exult HIM! Awesome GOD!
Apparently, Mason makes claims about books he has not read. To support a book that contradicts his beliefs, in my opinion, indicates that he either hasn't actually read the book or he is terribly confused. The former would explain his attack on SDA beliefs and EGW writings. Clearly, he hasn't done the research on SDA's and he hasn't fully read EGW writings. Perhaps he has only read excerpts or is just regurgitating what other people have said. To have a PhD, Mason's rmethods/research is a poor demonstration of scholarship.
The Holy Spirit said in Hebrews 2:16 For verily he (Jesus), took NOT on him the nature of angels; Michael is not Jesus. Jesus is not Michael. "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on ....... worship of angels, Col 2:18 JWs and LDS and you. Why you are a cult???? I will exult HIM! Awesome GOD!
Dear Ivor, may God bless you abundantly with His wisdom to help people understand the truth of His word. Thanks for what you do. Mark 4:12 Comes to mind for this subject. “Seeing they may see and not perceive, And hearing they may hear and not understand; Lest they should turn, And their sins be forgiven them”. If we cannot believe like children, we are lost cause nobody knows the ways of God. I agree on doing your own bible study. People have become to lazy to read since technology has taken over. May God bless you and Atonte
This man wants to be famous for insulting sda church. Who is paying him or is he on business or he needs followers with expensive of sda church. He needs our prayer.
I agree to hear. The Holy Spirit said in Hebrews 2:16 For verily he (Jesus), took NOT on him the nature of angels; Michael is not Jesus. Jesus is not Michael. "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on ....... worship of angels, Col 2:18 JWs and LDS and you. Why you are a cult???? I will exult HIM! Awesome GOD!
@@cliffbailey6474 Hello brother, These individuals most have been cult members as well then according to your statement. John Calvin "Michael may mean an angel; but I embrace the opinion of those who refer this to the person of Christ because it suits the subject best to represent him as standing forward for the defense of his elect people...The angel...calls Michael the mighty prince, as if he had said Michael should be the guardian and protector of the elect people."' Source: Calvin, Commentary on Daniel 12:1, Lecture 65 John Calvin, COMMENTARIES ON THE BOOK OF THE PROPHET DANIEL, 12:1, Lecture 65, trans. T. Myers vol. 2 p. 369 (Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1979) John Gill And at that time shall Michael stand up,.... The Archangel, who has all the angels of heaven under him, and at his command, the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ; who is as God, as the name signifies, truly and really God, and equal in nature, power, and glory, to his divine Father: C.H. Spurgeon 1866: "You remember how our Lord, who is the true Michael, the only great Archangel, said at the beginning of the preaching of the Gospel, 'I beheld Satan as lightning falling from Heaven.'" (Our Lord's Transcendent Greatness, Dec. 2, 1866) Adam Clarke Clarke's Commentary - "Let it be observed that the word archangel is never found in the plural number in the sacred writings. There can be properly only one archangel, one chief or head of all the angelic host .... Michael is this archangel, and head of all the angelic orders hence by this personage, in the Apocalypse, many understand the Lord Jesus." Brother, please study scripture for yourself. God bless
Look into that deeper. Christ isn't an angel, depending on the use, angel means messenger. This verse in Judges couldn't be any clearer Judges 6:22-23 KJV And when Gideon perceived that he was an angel of the LORD, Gideon said, Alas, O Lord GOD! for because I have seen an angel of the LORD face to face. And the LORD said unto him, Peace be unto thee; fear not: thou shalt not die. The issue is not when the verse says (an the Angel of the Lord says this or that), its when a name is attached to the Angel who is speaking. This is why the Bible requires us to (think) in (Isaiah 1:18). Pray, and ask The Holy Spirit to make the scriptures plain to you. Revelation 12:7-9 KJV And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. We know that much of the book of Revelation is symbolic, "The Dragon" is a symbol for Satan. Who is Michael a symbol for? Also something to consider no "created" being can overthrow Satan? Only the Godhead. Ezekiel 28:12-15 KJV Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. Notice the verse says "thou sealest up the sum" this means that God threw away the mold when he created Lucifer, there was none other like him. No created being can overthrow him, only God. The term "archangel" means captain of the angels or commander of the angels. Who commands the angels? Notice these verses. Daniel 12:1-3 KJV And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. What is the significance of Michael standing up? Look at what follows after Michael stands up. The return of Christ. Many of them that sleep shall awake after Michael stands up. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Revelation 22:10-14 KJV And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
@cliffbailey6474 Hello brother, According to your statement, these below were in the sda cult as well. John Calvin "Michael may mean an angel; but I embrace the opinion of those who refer this to the person of Christ because it suits the subject best to represent him as standing forward for the defense of his elect people...The angel...calls Michael the mighty prince, as if he had said Michael should be the guardian and protector of the elect people."' Source: Calvin, Commentary on Daniel 12:1, Lecture 65 John Calvin, COMMENTARIES ON THE BOOK OF THE PROPHET DANIEL, 12:1, Lecture 65, trans. T. Myers vol. 2 p. 369 (Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1979) John Gill And at that time shall Michael stand up,.... The Archangel, who has all the angels of heaven under him, and at his command, the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ; who is as God, as the name signifies, truly and really God, and equal in nature, power, and glory, to his divine Father: C.H. Spurgeon 1866: "You remember how our Lord, who is the true Michael, the only great Archangel, said at the beginning of the preaching of the Gospel, 'I beheld Satan as lightning falling from Heaven.'" (Our Lord's Transcendent Greatness, Dec. 2, 1866) Adam Clarke Clarke's Commentary - "Let it be observed that the word archangel is never found in the plural number in the sacred writings. There can be properly only one archangel, one chief or head of all the angelic host .... Michael is this archangel, and head of all the angelic orders hence by this personage, in the Apocalypse, many understand the Lord Jesus."
@cliffbailey6474 Hello brother, According to your statement, these people below also belong to the sda cult as well. John Calvin "Michael may mean an angel; but I embrace the opinion of those who refer this to the person of Christ because it suits the subject best to represent him as standing forward for the defense of his elect people...The angel...calls Michael the mighty prince, as if he had said Michael should be the guardian and protector of the elect people."' Source: Calvin, Commentary on Daniel 12:1, Lecture 65 John Calvin, COMMENTARIES ON THE BOOK OF THE PROPHET DANIEL, 12:1, Lecture 65, trans. T. Myers vol. 2 p. 369 (Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1979) John Gill And at that time shall Michael stand up,.... The Archangel, who has all the angels of heaven under him, and at his command, the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ; who is as God, as the name signifies, truly and really God, and equal in nature, power, and glory, to his divine Father: C.H. Spurgeon 1866: "You remember how our Lord, who is the true Michael, the only great Archangel, said at the beginning of the preaching of the Gospel, 'I beheld Satan as lightning falling from Heaven.'" (Our Lord's Transcendent Greatness, Dec. 2, 1866) Adam Clarke Clarke's Commentary - "Let it be observed that the word archangel is never found in the plural number in the sacred writings. There can be properly only one archangel, one chief or head of all the angelic host .... Michael is this archangel, and head of all the angelic orders hence by this personage, in the Apocalypse, many understand the Lord Jesus." Who is (the angel of The LORD) in this verse below? Judges 6:22-24 KJV And when Gideon perceived that he was an angel of the LORD, Gideon said, Alas, O Lord GOD! for because I have seen an angel of the LORD face to face. And the LORD said unto him, Peace be unto thee; fear not: thou shalt not die. Then Gideon built an altar there unto the LORD, and called it Jehovah-shalom: unto this day it is yet in Ophrah of the Abi-ezrites. It's clearly (God) specifically Jesus (God the Son) The issue is not where the verse states (the angel of the LORD) said this or that, it's when a name is attached to that angel. This is why (Isaiah 1:18) commands us to think. Revelation 12:7-9 KJV And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. We know that much of the book of Revelation is symbolic, "The Dragon" is a symbol for Satan. Who is Michael a symbol for? Also, something to consider no "created" being can overthrow Satan? Only the Godhead. Ezekiel 28:12-15 KJV Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. Notice the verse says "thou sealest up the sum" this means that God threw away the mold when he created Lucifer, there was none other like him. No created being can overthrow him, only God. The term "archangel" means captain of the angels or commander of the angels. Who commands the angels? Notice these verses. Daniel 12:1-3 KJV And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. What is the significance of Michael standing up? Look at what follows after Michael stands up. The return of Christ. Many of them that sleep shall awake after Michael stands up. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Revelation 22:10-14 KJV And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. There more I say but look into it more. Daniel and Revelation go hand in hand. Here are a few quotes from other protestant reformers on this topic. God bless you brother, may The Holy Spirit lead and guide you into all truths.
Yes we'd all been wiped out. Christ brought the word to us He died on the 6th day Mankind was made on the 6th day. He died for all of mankind!!! God is immortal and spirit. He cant be killed. The word was made flesh Not God . God never left his throne!!
This young man clearly does not know what the sda church believe in. Im sorry for him and he is leading people astray. Lord have mercy upon him. This is good for we sda to know what we believe in
The Holy Spirit said in Hebrews 2:16 For verily he (Jesus), took NOT on him the nature of angels; Michael is not Jesus. Jesus is not Michael. "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on ....... worship of angels, Col 2:18 JWs and LDS and you. Why you are a cult???? I will exult HIM! Awesome GOD!
No we use the same JKV Bible like everyone else :) its hard share truth with people who don't truly desire to know what is truth, Herod had this same issue didn't wait to find out what truth is.
Keep up the good work, pastor. People need to know the truth, particularly those who don't read their bibles and non-adventists. You are only doing your responsibility as a servant of God. I know you know that truth matters.
"While Jacob was earnest in prayer, stirring up himself to take hold on God, an angel takes hold on him. Some think this was a created angel, the angel of his presence (Isa. 63:9), one of those that always behold the face of our Father and attend on the shechinah, or the divine Majesty, which probably Jacob had also in view. Others think it was Michael our prince, the eternal Word, the angel of the covenant, who is indeed the Lord of the angels, who often appeared in a human shape before he assumed the human nature for a perpetuity; whichsoever it was, we are sure God’s name was in him, Exod. 23:21." Matthew Henry, Matthew Henry's Commentary, Genesis chapter 32, verses 24-32
"'Yet Michael the archangel ...' By whom is meant, not a created angel, but an eternal one, the Lord Jesus Christ ..." -- John Gill, An Exposition of the New Testament.
"Meet it!" I had my orders. I had heard the words, like a living voice from our Captain, “Meet it!” I knew what my duty was and that there was not a moment to lose. The time for decided action had come. I must without delay obey the command, “Meet it!” Letters and Manuscripts - Volume 18 (1903) 243/524 Lt 238, 1903
There is nothing wrong with the Clear Word, it's a beautiful devotional, I have been extremely Blessed by reading it! Those people are not being used by Jesus doing what they are doing, we need to study to show thyself approved. Lord help us to follow and focus on You, and look up for our Redemption draws nigh!! 🙏🏻🆕❤️✝️👑🐑❤️🔥👉🏻✝️⏳
How can someone just listen to this man? He can just say something about the SDA Church and he can speak for the whole church and all of its members?!!
If God abhors one sin above another, of which His people are guilty, it is doing nothing in case of an emergency. Indifference and neutrality in a religious crisis is regarded of God as a grievous crime and equal to the very worst type of hostility against God. 3T 280.3 PRAISE GOD for Pr Myers and Pr Gibson
pray for Elce (and the congregation he was in), because if thats what they were being taught from the pulpit in the church he attended, that is so sad. He seems to have been taught so many things that are not true (including that the clear word is the SDAs Bible). If he was honestly taught these things instead of truth (and if he was, then that should be addressed by the conference if it already hasn't been), of course he would be discouraged/disillusioned when he found out those things were not the truth. if he wasn't taught these things then he needs prayer just as much.
In the process of listening. Would you please reach out to The Perry's? Not sure if you have. I think a discussion with each other would be more powerful than discussions about each other. Comment can often be lost in translation but clarified in a dynamic conversation. ❤️🙏🏽🕊
Jesus is The Son of God He prayed to His Father. The Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus when He was baptized. Sounds like some Desmond Ford distortion. 3 people is clear to me
yes The word was made flesh .he had to be human otherwise there couldnt be forgiveness for us. If he is God! Then he died for God & not us .which were the ones who sin's against God.!!.
My father my father why have YOU FORSAKEN ME. Sin is why he withdrew from him. He took on the sins of the world. Really!! Jesus had Faith in his Father. We are also to have Faith in the father.and in jesus
Pastor Myers could you please address a RUclips channel called academy apologia. This man does nothing but come up with ‘creative’ ways to refute sda theology. his most recent clip about the sanctuary message being irrelevant. Would like to hear your address the accusations and thank you for the doing Gods work. God Bless you and your family brother
Nobody can show in the bible that the millinium is in heaven . Meeting him in the air so we can always be with him and reign on the earth. Nowhere is there a third coming. Flesh ends after the millium. All will be spirit only. Flesh can't see the the kingdom. We become like him at the second coming. The main harvest is during the millennial rule or rest of Christ with his called out firstfruits. All who didn't sell out to satan will be taught the mystery of God and allowed free choice
Thanx Pastor for laying bare false claims about the deity of CHRIST. Let's just pray for Elce and company to receive mercy for peddling these falsehoods against Adventist teachings. We don't hate them, but they must desist from what they are doing.
"Michael is the Lord Jesus, the only Archangel. We, like Aim, and under him, must stand as champions for the truth, never to surrender, but being prepared to suffer, even unto blood, striving against sin." --Charles Spurgeon, "The Angelic Life", November 1868
@@TokasaBulamaicake Spurgeon clearly doesn't believe in the apocrypha, he sticks with the 66 Books of the Bible. In the Bible, there is one archangel, the Person the angels report to, the Lord Jesus.
you just have to look at the archangels themselves where they actually stands how many is there? The archangels are the two angels that stood above the arch of the covenant above the mercy seat guarding the Ten Commandments. You can clearly see there is two of them.
No one has ever seen God, but God THE ONE AND ONLY, who IS AT THE FATHER'S SIDE, has made Him known ESV (John 1:18) Side note: Hebrews was written before 69AD Jesus was at the Father's side before Oct. 22, 1844. Ask Jesus about this. Wow! I just saw this! Praise HIS one and only NAME! Jesus is so good. JW, LDS, Christadelphians and SDA tools for satan.
Jesus is Michael the Archangel Question 1) Does the bible prove that Jesus and Michael the Archangel are one and the same . Michael the Archangel appearances Daniel 10:13 Daniel 10:13 KJV [13] But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. - Prince of Persia = Satan - one of the chief princes Daniel 12:1 Daniel 12:1 KJV [1] And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. - Michael the Great Prince - The prince who stands for the people . In the place of his people - A prince is a ruler and authority and an Angel has neither only God 1 John 2:1-2 KJV [1] My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: [2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. - ( Revelation 3:20; Colossians 4:12 ; Ephesians 6:10-11) Jude 1:9 Jude 1:9 KJV [9] Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. - Michael the archangel ability to raise Moses from the dead - Only God can raise the dead Revelation 12:7- 9 Revelation 12:7-9 KJV [7] And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, [8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. [9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. - Michael is the commander of the angels Answer A) Jesus declares that he is the resurrection and life . That he has the power to raise us from the dead . See John 11:25-26. John 11:25-26 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life:he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? B) Jesus declares he has power over death by stating he will lay down his life and in three days take it back up . He is the resurrection . See John 2:19-21. John 2:19-21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. John 10:17-18 KJV [17] Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. [18] No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. C) Michael is identified as the archangel . See Jude 1:9 Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. D) Michael is identified as the leader of the angels in the war against Satan . See Revelation 12:7. Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven:Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, E) The voice of the Archangel wakes the dead. Jesus had declared in John 11:25-26 that He alone is the resurrection and the life . Therefore as the only one with power over the dead it must be Jesus with the voice of the archangel . He is Lord! 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. John 5:25-29 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God:and they that hear shall live. For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. Marvel not at this:for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 6:40 KJV [40] And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:43-44 KJV [43] Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves. [44] No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Amen! As Michael, the Commander and Chief off the angels, He Himself said… Matthew 26:53 - “Or do you think I cannot now pray to My Father, and He will provide Me with more than 12 legions of angels?”
Preston asked him if the Clear Word Bible denies that Jesus is God and Elce says that we say Jesus is Michael (Which is not denying that Jesus is God) and then jumps to mis representing what Ellen White said about Jesus and not continuing to show where the Clear Word Bible (which is not a bible translation) denies that Jesus is the almighty God. Smh. This is intentional deception. I can’t see it any other way.
@@jwesKeys absolute intentional. He probably was surprised and did not expect that line of questions and this on the hot seat had no option but to lie to keep his lie looking like the truth.
God is the Father of Christ; Christ is the Son of God. To Christ has been given an exalted position. He has been made equal with the Father. All the counsels of God are opened to His Son. {Testimonies for the church vol 8, p. 268 par. 3}
@@powerofthelamb but the 1st angels message must go forth!! “saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.” Revelation 14:7 KJV Who is that God?! Godspeed! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
13:30 of this video I have concern with “ The Word existed as a divine being” how many divine beings are there. John 1:1; The Word was with God and the Word was God. John 1: 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, ( and we beheld his glory, the glory os of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. “Mediator of the covenant” Hebrews12:24 Jesus mediator of the new covenant, Hebrews 9:15 mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheitance.
@@mauricethomas7090 You are trying too hard. Do you have a problem with this statement? "Why is this important? The reason is because only a divine Savior could save us from our sins-and He did, by becoming the final and complete sacrifice for our sins through His death on the cross. And by His resurrection He proved that He was indeed who He claimed to be: God in human flesh. Don’t turn your back on Him, but by faith welcome Him into your heart and life today." Billy Graham.
Yes, the Word was with God (Almighty) and the Word(Jesus Christ)was God(Almighty) meaning the Word (Jesus Christ) is of the same substance and essence. The Word ( Jesus Christ) has no beginning, he is before time. There is no time the Word (Jesus Christ) has not been. There is only ONE being of God - Father-Son-Holy Spirit. Christ is the mediator of the new covenant Hebrews 12:24, 8:6, New testament Hebrews 9:15. I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior many years ago - Roman 10:8-13. The statement is not Biblical. Also, in reference to fact check #3: God is the Father of Christ; Christ is the Son of God. To Christ has been given an exalted position. He has been made equal with the Father. All the counsels of God are opened to His Son. 8T 268.3, The exaltation of the Son of God as equal with the Father was represented as an injustice to Lucifer, who, it was claimed, was also entitled to reverence and honor. If this prince of angels could but attain to his true, exalted position, great good would accrue to the entire host of heaven; for it was his object to secure freedom for all. But now even the liberty which they had hitherto enjoyed was at an end; for an absolute Ruler had been appointed them, and to His authority all must pay homage. Such were the subtle deceptions that through the wiles of Lucifer were fast obtaining in the heavenly courts. PP 37.1 also see SP 17.2
The Father then made known that it was ordained by himself that Christ, his Son, should be equal with himself; {The Spirit of Prophecy Vol 1, page 17, Ellen G. White } Jesus was born of the Father in eternity past. By inheritance (Hebrew.1:4) , He is one with God in authority, dignity, and divine perfection. “A complete offering has been made; for “God so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son,”-not a son by creation, as were the angels, nor a son by adoption, as is the forgiven sinner, **but a Son begotten** in the express image of the Father’s person, and in all the brightness of his majesty and glory, one equal with God in authority, dignity, and divine perfection. In him dwelt all the fullness of the Godhead bodily {ST May 30, 1895, par. 3}
Did Jesus every say "The Lord rebuke you!" during HIS earthly ministry? NO! I'm not being tricky. Pray about it. KJV is For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. KJV Heb2:16 Strong's Concordance epilambanomai: to lay hold of Original Word: ἐπιλαμβάνομαι Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: epilambanomai Phonetic Spelling: (ep-ee-lam-ban'-om-ahee) Definition: to lay hold of Usage: I lay hold of, take hold of, seize (sometimes with beneficent, sometimes with hostile, intent). Jesus didn't become an angel, HE became human. To help us not angels. "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9). Did Jesus every say "The Lord rebuke you!" during HIS earthly ministry? I'm not being tricky. Reason it out. NO! Why? Because HE is the LORD. Jesus doesn't have to call on a higher power because HE is the HIGHEST POWER. Michael is obviously not the Lord. He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus has no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord. Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " Then the Devil left Him, and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him (Matthew 4:10,11).
We call on a higher authority “in the Name of Jesus” just as Michael had to do. Jesus doesn’t call on a higher authority or His own Name. Jesus is the highest authority.
Jesus Is Not an Angel In Hebrews 1-3, the author sets out to demonstrate that Jesus is superior to the prophets, angels, and Moses. We’re told Jesus is the ultimate revelation of God (1:1-2), the Creator of the world (1:2), and the exact imprint of God’s nature (1:3). After explicitly stating He is “much superior to angels,” the author of Hebrews writes, “For to which of the angels did God ever say, ‘You are my Son, today I have begotten you‘?” None including Michael.
Michael is called one of, one of, one of the chief princes. But the prince of the kingdom of Persia opposed me twenty-one days. So Michael, ONE OF, ONE OF the chief princes, came to help me, and I left him there with the prince of the kingdom of Persia (Daniel 10:13).
This means that he is one of a group of princes. We do not know how large the group is, but he is not in a class by himself. The Bible says that Jesus is the unique Son of God. No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made Him known (John 1:18)
I encourage you to Trust in Jesus alone. There is abundant life serving King Jesus outside of Adventism, JW, LDS deceptions and denigration of Jesus.
Are we as a church Now a oneness church.? Jesus ONLY, I have a real issue with this teaching Jesus IS GOD !! THEN GOD DIED FOR GOD. not for us humans Not True. Jesus died on the 6th day Good friday! Man was created on the 6th day. Jesus died for All of mankind. Who So Ever. Anybody can come to christ for salvation.
Are we now a oneness church.? Jesus only? I have a real issue with . JESUS IS GOD. Not true So God died for God? Not for humans The 6th day man was made . Christ died on the sixth day good friday. He died for mankind .
I really loved your detailed response videos to the Perry's podcast. I think it would be great if you edited a few of your responses and turned them into several short clips (including the accusation from the podcast with the response/fact) so that it can reach even more people as most people won't sit down and watch an entire hour long video.
I agree!! I think short clipped responses would reach more people too😊
I've been seeing it's easy to believe a lie when you are not sufficiently motivated to seek for the truth. And it's hard to listen to these guys tell me what Adventists believe when they don't care enough to actually look into it for themselves. Unless they enjoy the lie.
@@Nirky BIGFACTS!!!
It doesn’t feel good to be misrepresented… does it? At least tell the truth / learn the truth so you can tell what the other people believe to their face and they can say “ yes! That is what I believe” even if you don’t agree with it - but don’t say things that are not true ❤❤❤
Why all this worrying about what others believe and us all do what Jesus commanded us to do ! Go into all the world with the gospel so He will come soon
I'm not pro or anti!!! Just dont understand all the arguments..about what sda believe or what others say they believe!!! Seems futile a large wast of gospel preaching time and sad1💙💙💙
Amen, I can't agree with you more. They just want to confuse others to not come to the truth of God's Word.
No matter what they do, God's remnant will come to the truth.
They want to tell us what we believe which is far from the truth. This is the work of Satan to turn them away from the Sabbath, that's his main objective
I hope you’re putting some of these clips on IG and TikTok as reels & as shorts on RUclips because that’ll draw many to more these full length videos are up.
Also, I’d like your slides, please.
Oh dear oh dear where do these people get their ideas about the SDA church .
@@gordo191 Prayer is where it’s at! We need to pray for those who are seeking the truth to be able to see Through the deceptions of the ENEMY. though it seems like a good thing to worry about what others think about our church … prayer is effective!!! Those who have a LOVE FOR THE TRUTH ARE Jesus sheep, the Truth seekers will discover what God has for him or her to see and find gems of truth that the spirit of God will lead them to, and they will see the truth, if this is what they wish to find ! We are living in a time that deception is ALL AROUND US!! At every turn…. As it was foretold to us by my lord and savior Jesus. God will lead his sheep to the truth, they must be sincere seekers - with no motivations but only to love the truth:
“And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 KJV
From the devil himself
@@dantuicakau214agreed the devil himself and they have no idea he is deceiving them
@@brother_Tennessee nobody is aware they are being deceived… so important to have a love for the truth …
“even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 KJV
The Holy Spirit said in Hebrews 2:16 For verily he (Jesus), took NOT on him the nature of angels; Michael is not Jesus. Jesus is not Michael. "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, Col 2:18 JWs and LDS support you.
Why you are a cult???? I will exult HIM! Awesome GOD!
Elce is a very deliberate, calculated disgruntled ex-adventist, and they can be the worst lying snakes in the world, he will be responsible for the soul that he is leading a stray into darkness.
May God have mercy on him,
Elce can you stop leading people astray deliberately.
Praying for you.
The Holy Spirit said in Hebrews 2:16 For verily he (Jesus), took NOT on him the nature of angels; Michael is not Jesus. Jesus is not Michael. "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on ....... worship of angels, Col 2:18
JWs and LDS and you leading people astray.
Why you are a cult???? I will exult HIM! Awesome GOD!
Dear God,
I pray for everyone who comes across this message to hear your voice and experience you in fullness. I pray for the Holy Spirit to lead them into the truth. Father, have mercy on us all. May your will oh God be done on earth as it is in heaven.
In Jesus name
The Holy Spirit said in Hebrews 2:16 For verily he (Jesus), took NOT on him the nature of angels; Michael is not Jesus. Jesus is not Michael. "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on ....... worship of angels, Col 2:18
JWs and LDS and you.
Why you are a cult???? I will exult HIM! Awesome GOD!
Apparently, Mason makes claims about books he has not read. To support a book that contradicts his beliefs, in my opinion, indicates that he either hasn't actually read the book or he is terribly confused. The former would explain his attack on SDA beliefs and EGW writings. Clearly, he hasn't done the research on SDA's and he hasn't fully read EGW writings. Perhaps he has only read excerpts or is just regurgitating what other people have said. To have a PhD, Mason's rmethods/research is a poor demonstration of scholarship.
The Holy Spirit said in Hebrews 2:16 For verily he (Jesus), took NOT on him the nature of angels; Michael is not Jesus. Jesus is not Michael. "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on ....... worship of angels, Col 2:18
JWs and LDS and you.
Why you are a cult???? I will exult HIM! Awesome GOD!
Praise God for all the faithful workers taking a stand!!!
I would love to use your slides, pastor. I started a RUclips Tube channel recently to help spread the word.
Dear Ivor, may God bless you abundantly with His wisdom to help people understand the truth of His word. Thanks for what you do. Mark 4:12
Comes to mind for this subject. “Seeing they may see and not perceive,
And hearing they may hear and not understand; Lest they should turn, And their sins be forgiven them”. If we cannot believe like children, we are lost cause nobody knows the ways of God. I agree on doing your own bible study. People have become to lazy to read since technology has taken over. May God bless you and Atonte
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This man wants to be famous for insulting sda church. Who is paying him or is he on business or he needs followers with expensive of sda church. He needs our prayer.
Amen 🙏🏽.
Matthew 11:15 KJV
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
I agree to hear. The Holy Spirit said in Hebrews 2:16 For verily he (Jesus), took NOT on him the nature of angels; Michael is not Jesus. Jesus is not Michael. "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on ....... worship of angels, Col 2:18
JWs and LDS and you.
Why you are a cult???? I will exult HIM! Awesome GOD!
@@cliffbailey6474 Hello brother,
These individuals most have been cult members as well then according to your statement.
John Calvin
"Michael may mean an angel; but I embrace the opinion of those who refer this to the person of Christ because it suits the subject best to represent him as standing forward for the defense of his elect people...The angel...calls Michael the mighty prince, as if he had said Michael should be the guardian and protector of the elect people."' Source: Calvin, Commentary on Daniel 12:1, Lecture 65 John Calvin, COMMENTARIES ON THE BOOK OF THE PROPHET DANIEL, 12:1, Lecture 65, trans. T. Myers vol. 2 p. 369 (Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1979)
John Gill
And at that time shall Michael stand up,.... The Archangel, who has all the angels of heaven under him, and at his command, the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ; who is as God, as the name signifies, truly and really God, and equal in nature, power, and glory, to his divine Father:
C.H. Spurgeon 1866:
"You remember how our Lord, who is the true Michael, the only great Archangel, said at the beginning of the preaching of the Gospel, 'I beheld Satan as lightning falling from Heaven.'" (Our Lord's Transcendent Greatness, Dec. 2, 1866)
Adam Clarke
Clarke's Commentary - "Let it be observed that the word archangel is never found in the plural number in the sacred writings. There can be properly only one archangel, one chief or head of all the angelic host .... Michael is this archangel, and head of all the angelic orders hence by this personage, in the Apocalypse, many understand the Lord Jesus."
Brother, please study scripture for yourself. God bless
Look into that deeper. Christ isn't an angel, depending on the use, angel means messenger.
This verse in Judges couldn't be any clearer
Judges 6:22-23 KJV
And when Gideon perceived that he was an angel of the LORD, Gideon said, Alas, O Lord GOD! for because I have seen an angel of the LORD face to face. And the LORD said unto him, Peace be unto thee; fear not: thou shalt not die.
The issue is not when the verse says (an the Angel of the Lord says this or that), its when a name is attached to the Angel who is speaking. This is why the Bible requires us to (think) in (Isaiah 1:18).
Pray, and ask The Holy Spirit to make the scriptures plain to you.
Revelation 12:7-9 KJV
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
We know that much of the book of Revelation is symbolic, "The Dragon" is a symbol for Satan. Who is Michael a symbol for?
Also something to consider no "created" being can overthrow Satan? Only the Godhead.
Ezekiel 28:12-15 KJV
Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Notice the verse says "thou sealest up the sum" this means that God threw away the mold when he created Lucifer, there was none other like him. No created being can overthrow him, only God.
The term "archangel" means captain of the angels or commander of the angels. Who commands the angels?
Notice these verses.
Daniel 12:1-3 KJV
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
What is the significance of Michael standing up?
Look at what follows after Michael stands up. The return of Christ. Many of them that sleep shall awake after Michael stands up.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Revelation 22:10-14 KJV
And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
@cliffbailey6474 Hello brother,
According to your statement, these below were in the sda cult as well.
John Calvin
"Michael may mean an angel; but I embrace the opinion of those who refer this to the person of Christ because it suits the subject best to represent him as standing forward for the defense of his elect people...The angel...calls Michael the mighty prince, as if he had said Michael should be the guardian and protector of the elect people."' Source: Calvin, Commentary on Daniel 12:1, Lecture 65 John Calvin, COMMENTARIES ON THE BOOK OF THE PROPHET DANIEL, 12:1, Lecture 65, trans. T. Myers vol. 2 p. 369 (Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1979)
John Gill
And at that time shall Michael stand up,.... The Archangel, who has all the angels of heaven under him, and at his command, the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ; who is as God, as the name signifies, truly and really God, and equal in nature, power, and glory, to his divine Father:
C.H. Spurgeon 1866:
"You remember how our Lord, who is the true Michael, the only great Archangel, said at the beginning of the preaching of the Gospel, 'I beheld Satan as lightning falling from Heaven.'" (Our Lord's Transcendent Greatness, Dec. 2, 1866)
Adam Clarke
Clarke's Commentary - "Let it be observed that the word archangel is never found in the plural number in the sacred writings. There can be properly only one archangel, one chief or head of all the angelic host .... Michael is this archangel, and head of all the angelic orders hence by this personage, in the Apocalypse, many understand the Lord Jesus."
@cliffbailey6474 Hello brother,
According to your statement, these people below also belong to the sda cult as well.
John Calvin
"Michael may mean an angel; but I embrace the opinion of those who refer this to the person of Christ because it suits the subject best to represent him as standing forward for the defense of his elect people...The angel...calls Michael the mighty prince, as if he had said Michael should be the guardian and protector of the elect people."' Source: Calvin, Commentary on Daniel 12:1, Lecture 65 John Calvin, COMMENTARIES ON THE BOOK OF THE PROPHET DANIEL, 12:1, Lecture 65, trans. T. Myers vol. 2 p. 369 (Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1979)
John Gill
And at that time shall Michael stand up,.... The Archangel, who has all the angels of heaven under him, and at his command, the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ; who is as God, as the name signifies, truly and really God, and equal in nature, power, and glory, to his divine Father:
C.H. Spurgeon 1866:
"You remember how our Lord, who is the true Michael, the only great Archangel, said at the beginning of the preaching of the Gospel, 'I beheld Satan as lightning falling from Heaven.'" (Our Lord's Transcendent Greatness, Dec. 2, 1866)
Adam Clarke
Clarke's Commentary - "Let it be observed that the word archangel is never found in the plural number in the sacred writings. There can be properly only one archangel, one chief or head of all the angelic host .... Michael is this archangel, and head of all the angelic orders hence by this personage, in the Apocalypse, many understand the Lord Jesus."
Who is (the angel of The LORD) in this verse below?
Judges 6:22-24 KJV
And when Gideon perceived that he was an angel of the LORD, Gideon said, Alas, O Lord GOD! for because I have seen an angel of the LORD face to face. And the LORD said unto him, Peace be unto thee; fear not: thou shalt not die. Then Gideon built an altar there unto the LORD, and called it Jehovah-shalom: unto this day it is yet in Ophrah of the Abi-ezrites.
It's clearly (God) specifically Jesus (God the Son)
The issue is not where the verse states (the angel of the LORD) said this or that, it's when a name is attached to that angel. This is why (Isaiah 1:18) commands us to think.
Revelation 12:7-9 KJV
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
We know that much of the book of Revelation is symbolic, "The Dragon" is a symbol for Satan. Who is Michael a symbol for?
Also, something to consider no "created" being can overthrow Satan? Only the Godhead.
Ezekiel 28:12-15 KJV
Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Notice the verse says "thou sealest up the sum" this means that God threw away the mold when he created Lucifer, there was none other like him. No created being can overthrow him, only God.
The term "archangel" means captain of the angels or commander of the angels. Who commands the angels?
Notice these verses.
Daniel 12:1-3 KJV
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
What is the significance of Michael standing up?
Look at what follows after Michael stands up. The return of Christ. Many of them that sleep shall awake after Michael stands up.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Revelation 22:10-14 KJV
And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
There more I say but look into it more. Daniel and Revelation go hand in hand. Here are a few quotes from other protestant reformers on this topic.
God bless you brother, may The Holy Spirit lead and guide you into all truths.
If God had come to this earth in his Glory we would all be destroyed that's one of the reason he was cloth in humanity= the Man Christ Jesus.
Yes we'd all been wiped out.
Christ brought the word to us
He died on the 6th day
Mankind was made on the 6th day.
He died for all of mankind!!!
God is immortal and spirit.
He cant be killed.
The word was made flesh
Not God .
God never left his throne!!
The Perry’s and Preston Need to Be Drinking Milk as a new Believer. Not trying to choke dwn the Meat, they are not there yet @ivormyers
This young man clearly does not know what the sda church believe in. Im sorry for him and he is leading people astray. Lord have mercy upon him.
This is good for we sda to know what we believe in
The Holy Spirit said in Hebrews 2:16 For verily he (Jesus), took NOT on him the nature of angels; Michael is not Jesus. Jesus is not Michael. "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on ....... worship of angels, Col 2:18
JWs and LDS and you.
Why you are a cult???? I will exult HIM! Awesome GOD!
No we use the same JKV Bible like everyone else :) its hard share truth with people who don't truly desire to know what is truth, Herod had this same issue didn't wait to find out what truth is.
Debating with liars is a waste of time. There’s no other way to address liars than to call them liars until they repent.
Hi may i have the slides? Thank you! May the Lord continue to proclaim his truth through such ministries!
Keep up the good work, pastor. People need to know the truth, particularly those who don't read their bibles and non-adventists. You are only doing your responsibility as a servant of God. I know you know that truth matters.
Amazing pastor amen!❤
I'm glad you are passionate. We're supposed to contend for the faith!!!
"While Jacob was earnest in prayer, stirring up himself to take hold on God, an angel takes hold on him. Some think this was a created angel, the angel of his presence (Isa. 63:9), one of those that always behold the face of our Father and attend on the shechinah, or the divine Majesty, which probably Jacob had also in view. Others think it was Michael our prince, the eternal Word, the angel of the covenant, who is indeed the Lord of the angels, who often appeared in a human shape before he assumed the human nature for a perpetuity; whichsoever it was, we are sure God’s name was in him, Exod. 23:21." Matthew Henry, Matthew Henry's Commentary, Genesis chapter 32, verses 24-32
@@Nirky nice find!
I want the slides,Pastor...
The original 3 hour video in the description the slides are there.
@@smangelenondonga1241 OK...Thanks!
"'Yet Michael the archangel ...' By whom is meant, not a created angel, but an eternal one, the Lord Jesus Christ ..." -- John Gill, An Exposition of the New Testament.
"Meet it!" I had my orders. I had heard the words, like a living voice from our Captain, “Meet it!” I knew what my duty was and that there was not a moment to lose. The time for decided action had come. I must without delay obey the command, “Meet it!” Letters and Manuscripts - Volume 18 (1903) 243/524 Lt 238, 1903
There is nothing wrong with the Clear Word, it's a beautiful devotional, I have been extremely Blessed by reading it! Those people are not being used by Jesus doing what they are doing, we need to study to show thyself approved.
Lord help us to follow and focus on You, and look up for our Redemption draws nigh!! 🙏🏻🆕❤️✝️👑🐑❤️🔥👉🏻✝️⏳
Amen! Yes how do we get slides now would be amazingly helpful! God Bless you!
The Holy Spirit is our teacher and He will teach through men that He has anointed and I believe you are one of those men!
How can someone just listen to this man? He can just say something about the SDA Church and he can speak for the whole church and all of its members?!!
36:10 But he Produces No Proof of this Statement….No where in Mrs Whites Writtings
Do you not know, Ellen White's own husband denied the trinity and said it was unfounded?
36:10 says what he says and proceeds not to give ONE example 🙄
If God abhors one sin above another, of which His people are guilty, it is doing nothing in case of an emergency. Indifference and neutrality in a religious crisis is regarded of God as a grievous crime and equal to the very worst type of hostility against God. 3T 280.3 PRAISE GOD for Pr Myers and Pr Gibson
pray for Elce (and the congregation he was in), because if thats what they were being taught from the pulpit in the church he attended, that is so sad. He seems to have been taught so many things that are not true (including that the clear word is the SDAs Bible). If he was honestly taught these things instead of truth (and if he was, then that should be addressed by the conference if it already hasn't been), of course he would be discouraged/disillusioned when he found out those things were not the truth. if he wasn't taught these things then he needs prayer just as much.
Great response to the anti SDA.
This is powerful.....can i please have your slides Pastor
The original video in the description box the slides are there
I would like to have the slides also.
PASTOR RANDY SKEETE POWERFUL BIBLE PROPHECYS SHARED THE GOD HEAD ETC❤
In the process of listening. Would you please reach out to The Perry's? Not sure if you have. I think a discussion with each other would be more powerful than discussions about each other. Comment can often be lost in translation but clarified in a dynamic conversation. ❤️🙏🏽🕊
@@Joy_InTheJourney_1Co13 Already tried. They won’t.
Jesus is The Son of God
He prayed to His Father. The Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus when He was baptized.
Sounds like some Desmond Ford distortion. 3 people is clear to me
Christ died on the 6th day .mankind was made on the 6th day
He was a human. not God the Father.
Son of man.
God is immortal he can not ever die.!!
@@sylviamanring9975 you’re saying Jesus is a human??
yes
The word was made flesh .he had to be human otherwise there couldnt be forgiveness for us.
If he is God! Then he died for God & not us .which were the ones who sin's against God.!!.
My father my father why have YOU FORSAKEN ME.
Sin is why he withdrew from him. He took on the sins of the world. Really!!
Jesus had Faith in his Father. We are also to have Faith in the father.and in jesus
Pastor Myers could you please address a RUclips channel called academy apologia. This man does nothing but come up with ‘creative’ ways to refute sda theology. his most recent clip about the sanctuary message being irrelevant. Would like to hear your address the accusations and thank you for the doing Gods work. God Bless you and your family brother
@@1DamienJ these guys are rabid.
Nobody can show in the bible that the millinium is in heaven . Meeting him in the air so we can always be with him and reign on the earth. Nowhere is there a third coming. Flesh ends after the millium. All will be spirit only. Flesh can't see the the kingdom. We become like him at the second coming. The main harvest is during the millennial rule or rest of Christ with his called out firstfruits. All who didn't sell out to satan will be taught the mystery of God and allowed free choice
Pastor Meyers i would like your slides. i'm subscribed to your channel. how will you send them so i know to look for them?
@@jeffsimpson-h4g you can find them under the full length response.
I want the slides please.
They're pinned in the comment section of the original video
Ps 119 :115
Ref verse matthew 7:23
Thanx Pastor for laying bare false claims about the deity of CHRIST. Let's just pray for Elce and company to receive mercy for peddling these falsehoods against Adventist teachings. We don't hate them, but they must desist from what they are doing.
Handle your business Pastor 1
Love to have a copy of your slides.
"Michael is the Lord Jesus, the only Archangel. We, like Aim, and under him, must stand as champions for the truth, never to surrender, but being prepared to suffer, even unto blood, striving against sin." --Charles Spurgeon, "The Angelic Life", November 1868
There are two archangels we can see two not one. Gabriel is the second one.
@@TokasaBulamaicake Spurgeon clearly doesn't believe in the apocrypha, he sticks with the 66 Books of the Bible. In the Bible, there is one archangel, the Person the angels report to, the Lord Jesus.
you just have to look at the archangels themselves where they actually stands how many is there? The archangels are the two angels that stood above the arch of the covenant above the mercy seat guarding the Ten Commandments. You can clearly see there is two of them.
@@TokasaBulamaicake The Bible doesn't call those "archangels", does it?
No one has ever seen God, but God THE ONE AND ONLY, who IS AT THE FATHER'S SIDE, has made Him known ESV (John 1:18)
Side note: Hebrews was written before 69AD Jesus was at the Father's side before Oct. 22, 1844. Ask Jesus about this. Wow! I just saw this! Praise HIS one and only NAME! Jesus is so good. JW, LDS, Christadelphians and SDA tools for satan.
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Jesus is Michael the Archangel
Question
1) Does the bible prove that Jesus and Michael the Archangel are one and the same .
Michael the Archangel appearances
Daniel 10:13
Daniel 10:13 KJV
[13] But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
- Prince of Persia = Satan
- one of the chief princes
Daniel 12:1
Daniel 12:1 KJV
[1] And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
- Michael the Great Prince
- The prince who stands for the people . In the place of his people
- A prince is a ruler and authority and an Angel has neither only God
1 John 2:1-2 KJV
[1] My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: [2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
- ( Revelation 3:20; Colossians 4:12 ; Ephesians 6:10-11)
Jude 1:9
Jude 1:9 KJV
[9] Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
- Michael the archangel ability to raise Moses from the dead
- Only God can raise the dead
Revelation 12:7- 9
Revelation 12:7-9 KJV
[7] And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, [8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. [9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
- Michael is the commander of the angels
Answer
A) Jesus declares that he is the resurrection and life . That he has the power to raise us from the dead . See John 11:25-26.
John 11:25-26
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life:he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
B) Jesus declares he has power over death by stating he will lay down his life and in three days take it back up . He is the resurrection . See John 2:19-21.
John 2:19-21
Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body.
John 10:17-18 KJV
[17] Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. [18] No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
C) Michael is identified as the archangel . See Jude 1:9
Jude 1:9
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
D) Michael is identified as the leader of the angels in the war against Satan . See Revelation 12:7.
Revelation 12:7
And there was war in heaven:Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
E) The voice of the Archangel wakes the dead. Jesus had declared in John 11:25-26 that He alone is the resurrection and the life . Therefore as the only one with power over the dead it must be Jesus with the voice of the archangel . He is Lord!
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
John 5:25-29
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God:and they that hear shall live. For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. Marvel not at this:for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
John 6:40 KJV
[40] And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:43-44 KJV
[43] Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves. [44] No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Amen! As Michael, the Commander and Chief off the angels, He Himself said…
Matthew 26:53 - “Or do you think I cannot now pray to My Father, and He will provide Me with more than 12 legions of angels?”
I would like a copy of your slides please and thank you 🙏🏼
I got them on the description box of the original video
Want the slides
Preston asked him if the Clear Word Bible denies that Jesus is God and Elce says that we say Jesus is Michael (Which is not denying that Jesus is God) and then jumps to mis representing what Ellen White said about Jesus and not continuing to show where the Clear Word Bible (which is not a bible translation) denies that Jesus is the almighty God. Smh. This is intentional deception. I can’t see it any other way.
@@jwesKeys absolute intentional. He probably was surprised and did not expect that line of questions and this on the hot seat had no option but to lie to keep his lie looking like the truth.
The word became flesh. not God !
Christ brought the word to us it was Gods word.
In the flesh!!
Is this a re-run of what you did last time or there is new details?
@@gracefullyadorned5730 clip
Jesus had faith in God .
I am so disppoimted he was a religion and theology student
I want the slides
Please may I have your slides
Christ reconciled us back to God. no where in scripture does it says God the Son.
JWs are now claiming Lucifer is Christ.....
What? 🤔
God is the Father of Christ; Christ is the Son of God. To Christ has been given an exalted position. He has been made equal with the Father. All the counsels of God are opened to His Son. {Testimonies for the church vol 8, p. 268 par. 3}
Do you not know, Jesus is the Son of God-not God the Son?
Semantics
@@overcomeinone8371 not now bro. Please.
@@powerofthelamb but the 1st angels message must go forth!!
“saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.”
Revelation 14:7 KJV
Who is that God?!
Godspeed!
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Drop the mike!!
13:30 of this video I have concern with “ The Word existed as a divine being” how many divine beings are there. John 1:1; The Word was with God and the Word was God. John 1: 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, ( and we beheld his glory, the glory os of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. “Mediator of the covenant” Hebrews12:24 Jesus mediator of the new covenant, Hebrews 9:15 mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheitance.
@@mauricethomas7090 No need for concern. The same quote calls him “God.” Jesus was not one of many divine beings. He is God.
@@powerofthelamb Correct he is not a divine being, according to scripture he is God, Hebrews 1:1-14, Rev 1:7-8, Colossians 1:15-20, John 20:26-29.
@@mauricethomas7090 God is divine.
@@mauricethomas7090 You are trying too hard. Do you have a problem with this statement? "Why is this important? The reason is because only a divine Savior could save us from our sins-and He did, by becoming the final and complete sacrifice for our sins through His death on the cross. And by His resurrection He proved that He was indeed who He claimed to be: God in human flesh. Don’t turn your back on Him, but by faith welcome Him into your heart and life today." Billy Graham.
Yes, the Word was with God (Almighty) and the Word(Jesus Christ)was God(Almighty) meaning the Word (Jesus Christ) is of the same substance and essence. The Word ( Jesus Christ) has no beginning, he is before time. There is no time the Word (Jesus Christ) has not been. There is only ONE being of God - Father-Son-Holy Spirit. Christ is the mediator of the new covenant Hebrews 12:24, 8:6, New testament Hebrews 9:15. I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior many years ago - Roman 10:8-13. The statement is not Biblical. Also, in reference to fact check #3: God is the Father of Christ; Christ is the Son of God. To Christ has been given an exalted position. He has been made equal with the Father. All the counsels of God are opened to His Son. 8T 268.3, The exaltation of the Son of God as equal with the Father was represented as an injustice to Lucifer, who, it was claimed, was also entitled to reverence and honor. If this prince of angels could but attain to his true, exalted position, great good would accrue to the entire host of heaven; for it was his object to secure freedom for all. But now even the liberty which they had hitherto enjoyed was at an end; for an absolute Ruler had been appointed them, and to His authority all must pay homage. Such were the subtle deceptions that through the wiles of Lucifer were fast obtaining in the heavenly courts. PP 37.1 also see SP 17.2
Please i want your slides
Original video in the description box
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Can you send me the slides please.
The Father then made known that it was ordained by himself that Christ, his Son, should be equal with himself;
{The Spirit of Prophecy Vol 1, page 17, Ellen G. White }
Jesus was born of the Father in eternity past.
By inheritance (Hebrew.1:4) , He is one with God in authority, dignity, and divine perfection.
“A complete offering has been made; for “God so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son,”-not a son by creation, as were the angels, nor a son by adoption, as is the forgiven sinner, **but a Son begotten** in the express image of the Father’s person, and in all the brightness of his majesty and glory, one equal with God in authority, dignity, and divine perfection. In him dwelt all the fullness of the Godhead bodily {ST May 30, 1895, par. 3}
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Did Jesus every say "The Lord rebuke you!" during HIS earthly ministry? NO! I'm not being tricky. Pray about it.
KJV is For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. KJV Heb2:16
Strong's Concordance
epilambanomai: to lay hold of
Original Word: ἐπιλαμβάνομαι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: epilambanomai
Phonetic Spelling: (ep-ee-lam-ban'-om-ahee)
Definition: to lay hold of
Usage: I lay hold of, take hold of, seize (sometimes with beneficent, sometimes with hostile, intent).
Jesus didn't become an angel, HE became human. To help us not angels.
"The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).
Did Jesus every say "The Lord rebuke you!" during HIS earthly ministry? I'm not being tricky. Reason it out. NO!
Why? Because HE is the LORD. Jesus doesn't have to call on a higher power because HE is the HIGHEST POWER.
Michael is obviously not the Lord. He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus has no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord.
Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " Then the Devil left Him, and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him (Matthew 4:10,11).
We call on a higher authority “in the Name of Jesus” just as Michael had to do. Jesus doesn’t call on a higher authority or His own Name. Jesus is the highest authority.
Jesus Is Not an Angel
In Hebrews 1-3, the author sets out to demonstrate that Jesus is superior to the prophets, angels, and Moses. We’re told Jesus is the ultimate revelation of God (1:1-2), the Creator of the world (1:2), and the exact imprint of God’s nature (1:3). After explicitly stating He is “much superior to angels,” the author of Hebrews writes, “For to which of the angels did God ever say, ‘You are my Son, today I have begotten you‘?” None including Michael.
Michael is called one of, one of, one of the chief princes.
But the prince of the kingdom of Persia opposed me twenty-one days. So Michael, ONE OF, ONE OF the chief princes, came to help me, and I left him there with the prince of the kingdom of Persia (Daniel 10:13).
This means that he is one of a group of princes. We do not know how large the group is, but he is not in a class by himself.
The Bible says that Jesus is the unique Son of God.
No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made Him known (John 1:18)
I encourage you to Trust in Jesus alone. There is abundant life serving King Jesus outside of Adventism, JW, LDS deceptions and denigration of Jesus.
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Are we as a church
Now a oneness church.?
Jesus ONLY,
I have a real issue with this teaching
Jesus IS GOD !!
THEN GOD DIED FOR GOD. not for us humans
Not True. Jesus died on the 6th day Good friday!
Man was created on the 6th day.
Jesus died for All of mankind. Who So Ever.
Anybody can come to christ for salvation.
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Are we now a oneness church.?
Jesus only?
I have a real issue with .
JESUS IS GOD.
Not true
So God died for God?
Not for humans
The 6th day man was made .
Christ died on the sixth day good friday.
He died for mankind .
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