This was played while Serral was still in military service. He only got out at end of September. But service or no service, Clem is a monster player. The first game was just overwhelming.
Serral not even practicing much and still in the finals! the guy is the GOAT, just amazing, may be being in the military will give him some rest and new ideas, i mean look at Rogue! guy came with a new, fresh late game zerg and a 300 IQ move even if this game has been going on for over a decade! not sure if the developers ever thought of this? Amazing Rogue!
It would have been less so had Clem just kept a Tank or two to deal with the Nydus, built Turrets or even just extended his structures to get full vision of his main. I was surprised he kept letting the biggest threat to him pop up so many times afterwards.
The assortment of harass units terran has makes this matchup seem broken. Granted Clem is god tier; but Serral is not exactly trash. Games like these kinda take the fun out of watching games.
with all due respect to clem, serral isn't playing the right unit composition here. the heavy tanks are hard counters to the roaches and ravagers, meanwhile there is no anti air to check the medivacs or target clem's map control. the right counter would have lings, banes, lurkers, hydras, and mutas. serral isn't playing right
I think your criticism of clem playing too standard is unfair. Terran cheese is not nearly as diverse, flexible, far more committal, and punishing when unsuccessful, than Zerg. Playing standard is much safer when you have Clems mechanical aptitude.
Yes, but he has the point that if you keep doing the same build every game you're going to get predictable, and after a while the opponent might learn how to counter you. That being said, Clem keeps doing the 3rd CC build because it's super safe. Pig is just saying if he mixes it up he could be a little better. He might be right, he might be wrong, I don't know. That's something beyond my very rudimentary knowledge of the game.
I know clem is really good player but to be honest it just seems like zerg does not have enough good units to deal with terran i mean look how fast the Lurkers got killed by the ghosts yet if you tried to kill seige tanks with ghosts the ghosts would get destroyed. just seems like lurkers should have the same range as tanks to even the playing field i feel like half of zergs units are kinda useless or underpowered.
How much of a noob are you to think that Lurkers should have the same range as Siege Tanks? Tanks fire much slower, take longer to siege, are easier to kill and their splash is a lot smaller. There's a reason you don't have to move Lurkers around corners, on ledges and around structures like you do Tanks. On top of that, if Zerg's units are too inept to deal with Terran's, how come all those Zergs, not just Serral, keep making it to the semis and finals? Oh, and not too long after this, Shin 2-0'ed Clem in a smaller tournament.
@@kommisar.Five of the top ten players are Terran. While I agree that buffing Lurkers probably isn't a good idea, things clearly aren't quite balanced at the very highest level of play.
@@irrelevantfish1978 I checked Aligulac (which I'm assuming is the same site you're using) like a couple of weeks ago and it was an equal mix of all three races. Click on "history" and it shows Terrans in the lead for the last three counts, but beyond that Zerg was in the spot for many counts before that. Yes, there could be better balance, such as nerfing Nydus, the absolutely most broken thing in the game right now by far.
@@irrelevantfish1978 Only one of the top five players is Terran. Truth is, Clem winning the ESWC is what triggered all those balance talks. The rest of the competition can't keep up with Clem, deal with it.
Terran an toss have solo unit winning game, zerg just dont have much of a choice in the early game to get a edge vs terran and toss... They just dont have a kick anymore... Its so sad seeing over and over 3-0 vs zerg...
Wow... Blizzard's Terran biased balance team , has managed to make Serral look weak... Zerg's been nerfed beyond recognition.... please Blizzard, it's time to fire some people... sigh...
@@kommisar. at this level of gameplay, yes , mostly due to balance... Serral and Clem are at the top level of skill in the world.. Nerfing Zerg so hard this last years, is like nerfing the afromerican race, in running competitions... cause they almost always come in top... 🤦
@@mikemerino5479 "Nerfing Zerg so hard...." What a joke. The only thing they nerfed really was the Baneling and burrow/burrow movement. Every other change with Zerg got a buff, particularly Hydras. Guess you're one of those people who just likes to use selective memory.
@@kommisar. Selective memory? WTF are you talking about? Go on and check all 5 years patch notes, Zergs had been a favorite of Blizzard's nerf 🔨 , just a few examples for your "selective memory": * Broodlings duration * Brood Lord's Range * Removal of infested Terran * Adding Viper's delay * Halving Queen's transfusion effect * Adding restriction to queen to only transfuse while in creep * Adding 1+ of to banelings life and then removing it on a later patch * Removing 1+ armor of Ultralisks * Nerfing Lurker's damage * Removing ravagers +1 byle range upgrade * Removing swarm host ability of burrow movement * Removing ground based broodlings from swarm host (making them "aerial") * Removing "corruption" ability from Corruptors (duh) * Removing roaches "fast healing" while burrowed after "burrowed movement" had been researched... And the list goes on and on... So before replying without facts, please check ✅ yours!!!
@@mikemerino5479 You could compile a list of nerfs for all three races. Meanwhile you're ignoring the buffs Zerg has gotten. Many of those nerfs you mentioned made the race broken anyway, e.g. the Infested Terran and the BL bug that allowed them to get an even greater range if they kited.
This was played while Serral was still in military service. He only got out at end of September. But service or no service, Clem is a monster player. The first game was just overwhelming.
What do you mean by BUT SERVICE OR NOT SERVICE? Serral isn't playing Starcraft for a long time...
Spoiler shield 🛡️
Spoiler shield for a series that was played weeks ago? You people are sad.
I was a,ready spoiled over 10 times like a month ago, but I appreciate it lmao
Man, that last game is like that serial killer with a spoon meme, just wearing you down little by little
Love the commentary. Thank you for explaining the logic behind the strat for a bronze like me lol. Keep up the videos 💯
Serral not even practicing much and still in the finals! the guy is the GOAT, just amazing, may be being in the military will give him some rest and new ideas, i mean look at Rogue! guy came with a new, fresh late game zerg and a 300 IQ move even if this game has been going on for over a decade! not sure if the developers ever thought of this? Amazing Rogue!
ur so right about the evo chamber, with only 4 queens as defense u gotta make a choke point
Love your guts, PiG. Thanks for this.
Best commentary 🔥🔥
damn game 3 was chaotic
It would have been less so had Clem just kept a Tank or two to deal with the Nydus, built Turrets or even just extended his structures to get full vision of his main. I was surprised he kept letting the biggest threat to him pop up so many times afterwards.
oh shit 45min Bo5!!!
a european match up as well. koreans bo5 45mins is normal EU ones usually is a Bo3
I've seen shorter ones with 5 actual games....
I think zerg needs more options on how to engage.
Infestor and viper
One of the best game from the ewc!
Online or Lan tournament ? I forgot this one 🤣
Clem makes Serral look mortal...
Fair play to Clem thats amazing skills. never mind, the zerglings will find a way eventually
The assortment of harass units terran has makes this matchup seem broken.
Granted Clem is god tier; but Serral is not exactly trash.
Games like these kinda take the fun out of watching games.
of acourse most of us watched it before but not casted by Pig. Rewatching...
Can someone tell me if this is live tournament or past?
it's a cast of a replay from the world championship that happened a month or so ago
past
Amazing
Payback time for Serral ... Clem my number 1
Champ vs cham
Please construct al least two spores.. why only one and lose lots of drones? why?
Wilmer Lakes
with all due respect to clem, serral isn't playing the right unit composition here. the heavy tanks are hard counters to the roaches and ravagers, meanwhile there is no anti air to check the medivacs or target clem's map control. the right counter would have lings, banes, lurkers, hydras, and mutas. serral isn't playing right
I think your criticism of clem playing too standard is unfair. Terran cheese is not nearly as diverse, flexible, far more committal, and punishing when unsuccessful, than Zerg. Playing standard is much safer when you have Clems mechanical aptitude.
He’s a Zerg enjoyer. What do you expect. Drink those Zerg tears up
Yes, but he has the point that if you keep doing the same build every game you're going to get predictable, and after a while the opponent might learn how to counter you. That being said, Clem keeps doing the 3rd CC build because it's super safe. Pig is just saying if he mixes it up he could be a little better. He might be right, he might be wrong, I don't know. That's something beyond my very rudimentary knowledge of the game.
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I thought you didn't say "for all intents of purposes" any more :P
Anyway, we still love you
Its sad people have to make excuses for serral. He lost fair and square.
I know clem is really good player but to be honest it just seems like zerg does not have enough good units to deal with terran i mean look how fast the Lurkers got killed by the ghosts yet if you tried to kill seige tanks with ghosts the ghosts would get destroyed. just seems like lurkers should have the same range as tanks to even the playing field i feel like half of zergs units are kinda useless or underpowered.
How much of a noob are you to think that Lurkers should have the same range as Siege Tanks? Tanks fire much slower, take longer to siege, are easier to kill and their splash is a lot smaller. There's a reason you don't have to move Lurkers around corners, on ledges and around structures like you do Tanks. On top of that, if Zerg's units are too inept to deal with Terran's, how come all those Zergs, not just Serral, keep making it to the semis and finals? Oh, and not too long after this, Shin 2-0'ed Clem in a smaller tournament.
I agree zerg is inferior to
A great Terran. There needs to be a nerd of some sort to even the odds
@@kommisar.Five of the top ten players are Terran. While I agree that buffing Lurkers probably isn't a good idea, things clearly aren't quite balanced at the very highest level of play.
@@irrelevantfish1978 I checked Aligulac (which I'm assuming is the same site you're using) like a couple of weeks ago and it was an equal mix of all three races. Click on "history" and it shows Terrans in the lead for the last three counts, but beyond that Zerg was in the spot for many counts before that.
Yes, there could be better balance, such as nerfing Nydus, the absolutely most broken thing in the game right now by far.
@@irrelevantfish1978 Only one of the top five players is Terran. Truth is, Clem winning the ESWC is what triggered all those balance talks. The rest of the competition can't keep up with Clem, deal with it.
First!
Terran an toss have solo unit winning game, zerg just dont have much of a choice in the early game to get a edge vs terran and toss... They just dont have a kick anymore... Its so sad seeing over and over 3-0 vs zerg...
Honestly, I don’t see any reason to play Zerg today, except if you like to try hard in every match and slowly lose your mmr.
Clem 3-0 Serral here and 5-0 him in the finals. There, spoiled it for ya.
Wow... Blizzard's Terran biased balance team , has managed to make Serral look weak... Zerg's been nerfed beyond recognition.... please Blizzard, it's time to fire some people... sigh...
So because a guy loses, it must always be due to balance? Funny how two Zergs made it to the semis....
@@kommisar. at this level of gameplay, yes , mostly due to balance... Serral and Clem are at the top level of skill in the world.. Nerfing Zerg so hard this last years, is like nerfing the afromerican race, in running competitions... cause they almost always come in top... 🤦
@@mikemerino5479 "Nerfing Zerg so hard...." What a joke. The only thing they nerfed really was the Baneling and burrow/burrow movement. Every other change with Zerg got a buff, particularly Hydras. Guess you're one of those people who just likes to use selective memory.
@@kommisar. Selective memory? WTF are you talking about? Go on and check all 5 years patch notes, Zergs had been a favorite of Blizzard's nerf 🔨 , just a few examples for your "selective memory":
* Broodlings duration
* Brood Lord's Range
* Removal of infested Terran
* Adding Viper's delay
* Halving Queen's transfusion effect
* Adding restriction to queen to only transfuse while in creep
* Adding 1+ of to banelings life and then removing it on a later patch
* Removing 1+ armor of Ultralisks
* Nerfing Lurker's damage
* Removing ravagers +1 byle range upgrade
* Removing swarm host ability of burrow movement
* Removing ground based broodlings from swarm host (making them "aerial")
* Removing "corruption" ability from Corruptors (duh)
* Removing roaches "fast healing" while burrowed after "burrowed movement" had been researched...
And the list goes on and on... So before replying without facts, please check ✅ yours!!!
@@mikemerino5479 You could compile a list of nerfs for all three races. Meanwhile you're ignoring the buffs Zerg has gotten. Many of those nerfs you mentioned made the race broken anyway, e.g. the Infested Terran and the BL bug that allowed them to get an even greater range if they kited.