You lost me on "send it back if there's no headroom". If I sell a card on eBay that works fine at stock settings, it's not *my* problem if you can't overclock it. Which I may never even have tried to do! I'd be angry if you used that as an excuse for returning it, a process which would waste my time bigly. If you demand headroom, contact the seller first.
I've bought 2 used ASUS cards from scammers. Both artifacted and one caused system crashes. ASUS RMA'ed them both and sent me new cards lol. The first one I didn't test until after ripping it apart, cleaning it out with WD 40, and repasting it haha. Best thing to do is check the remaining warranty by looking up the serial number. Then it doesn't matter if they work.
Nice. I picked up an MSI RTX 2080 Super for a great price (around 200 USD) and it was working great until it hit 100% usage then the game would just crash. Didn't matter what game it was as soon as the GPU hit 100% game crashed (not PC though). Went through the RMA process and surprisingly got an RMA number so I'm gonna send it in and see what happens.
@@KimBoKastekniv47 4090 reviews are interesting but also just make me sad. 0.01% of gamers can afford(or willing to spend) the price. Of course we have the money but it's extra insanely irresponsible.
@@christophermullins7163 Yep, honestly surprised that the comments on those videos are itching for a 4090/7900 when a 3090/6900 is good for at least 5 years, at least I would(now with an RX 6600).
The RX 6600 is the best value GPU by a long way at the moment, I'm seeing them for $190-$230 AUD locally used, talking about 2060 super performance on 100W GPU.. insane value.
@@Gargantura GTFOH with the ignorant comments. 8gb is only a limiting factor of you like the 30fps cinematic experience. Otherwise.. it's perfect. Goober smooch. The 3070 ti had 8gb.. it's twice the performance of a 6600.
Grabbed a mining 6700xt for 220,- Stress tested it with Furmark with mem OC to make sure it's stable and everything works flawlessly, all temps in check. Boost like it supposed to do past 2600mhz. What a deal, so happy. :D
Think i got myself an ABSOLUTE TECH YES FIND, ended up grabbing myself a Zotac GTX 1070 for £50 (AUD$90) with cooling issues. Nice new thermal paste and its all set. Also grabbed an older Inno3d GTX 1060 6GB for £25 (AUD$45) with faulty fans and corrosion across the heatsink pipes and motherboard. previous person said it was untested as it gave no power. definitely looks beat up but i gave it the best cleaning i could do and brought the best life it could have back into it. so far running okay with decent headroom on overclocking. seems like its a pretty solid card (for now) This channel defo has inspired me to go look for the best deals when it comes to gaming on a budget. Thank you Bryan
great video. i just picked up a 2060s FE for 175$ usd from ebay and picked it up local. I got super lucky and scored this card from a gamer. its basically mint condition and i just love the look of the 2000 series FE cards. Im pairing it with a 5600 cpu i got for 118$ usd on cyber monday. My buddys pc is way over due for and upgrade and hes a 1080p gamer. I cant wait to see what his new pc can do with these two new upgrades. I just have to update his AM4 MB bios and its off to the races! Keep up the good content and make that money! I do basically what you do just because i really enjoy building and refurbishing pcs and pc parts. Cheers man.. ✌
Best local deals I've grabbed this month: HP prebuilt with R7 1700, 16gigs DDR4, 1tb HDD - $100 USD ---&--- MSI 2070S, NZXT H510, 2x NZXT fans, 4x Noctua fans - $200 USD ------- That HP prebuilt got an NVME boot drive and a 1650S then paired with a basic monitor/keyboard/mouse and sold for $450. The 2070S, case, and fans are going into a commissioned built with a price of $1200 (already paid for, waiting on more parts to be delivered). ------- From what I'm seeing in my area, it seems like a lot of the best deals are coming from complete systems or package deals. Likely because people are currently doing full system upgrades.
Lots of work, 1-2 hrs, cleaning, and testing, after cleaning and re-padding and thermal pasting, ALL of them better than the USeD originals. I think it's quite difficult to buy at the prices you indicated esp. in Melb.
Here is a tip for you.. one of the best deals I found was during the last peak in mining profit(2020). I got a full tower 7700 i7, 16gb ddr4, gtx 1080, 850watt EVGA, 500gb ssd for $250.. if you know the prices of GPU during the peak you know that is an amazing deal. What happened is, I found an ad on Facebook Market where the specs of the system were in an image several images back. The specs were not typed into the description so this ad would not show up in a search for "gtx" etc. This allowed the PC to go unnoticed by miners and I scored BIG. This PC was being sold by a traveling VR company. The system only had 50hours of use when I purchased and based on it's condition, this seemed accurate. The card is running strong years later and the slider have something like +175 and +475 with no additional voltage. I have always searched for these deals and have never spent but around half of the current fair market value of any particular price of hardware for the last 15 years. This does not include my zen3 5600 b450 I recently purchased for $200 from microcenter. I couldn't pass that deal up. Cheers.
Stole that 1080! If you know the market and monitor closely, no matter the product you can get some amazing deals. Bought the cheapest BMW X5 sports in Australia years ago. Loved that car.
Yep, I always sold my GPU's showing them working in my secondary system with a benchmark running because that gives safety to me and the buyer because there is no doubt in what condition it was sold. So far I didn't get hosed and I didn't hose anybody either.
On the recommendation of The Tech Yes Man, 5 years ago, I got into used-PC flipping. I'm not trying to make money, it's just an absolute joy. I've build over 100 PC's. And these tips are gold. Have never run into brittle thermal pads. But if it happens, it's an easy fix. All considered.
hey Brian I found why your rx580s have problems it's because they have mining bios wich is uses tighter VRAM timings to increase hashrate the fix is to flash the original bios
Have you heard of nVidia MATS and MODS software? It was leaked nVidia internal testing software from the factory. I found out about it from a place on eBay that fixes graphics cards. You'll find it online. Has to be booted from a USB stick.
Man, these are some great prices! I just bought the 1660 Palit Gaming OC for 120 Euros, which is a pretty nifty deal around here in Austria. Thanks for the fun, Sir!
I have a question. I just picked up a mined-on 3060 ti for cheap, still under warranty til march 2024. The problem is when the PC is on screen inactivity timeout (windows automatically shuts off monitor) occasionally when I try to wake the display with mouse/keyboard it still received no signal, so the screen stays off but windows is running, just no display. Whenever I try to wake the display and failed that there's a "device disconnected" chime from windows. The only solution is to disconnect and reconnect the display port cable so windows "re-detects" the display. I know this is a minor gripe and I could just easily disable screen timeout altogether, but I'm just concerned it's a bad sign that could lead to more problems in the long run. Apart from this one issue the card runs fine, temps are normal and it passed stress tests with flying colors even with +300mhz on the memory clock. (I used unigine superposition 8K optimized, GPUmemtest and Timespy extreme in multiple loops each) it also handles prolonged gaming sessions like a champ. Have someone else encountered this kind of behavior from nvidia cards? Because my other card is a radeon one (6600 XT) and it never had this kind of problem. Could the problem be software related like a BIOS/Driver one or could it be a hardware-related one and should I RMA it? (The return window from the local online marketplace where I bought this has expired, so there's no way I can send it back) Thanks! I'm at a loss at this point any insight would be greatly appreciated
Hi Kevin. This is a problem solved through a registry setting and a Power Plan modification. To fix, you'll need to edit Windows Registry > Press Win +R and type Regedit > then search for Hardware Current Control Set > NOW this is a little more difficult because the finder can't locate these long strings, hit F3 the paste this string: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SYSTEM > CurrentControlSet > Control > Power > PowerSettings > 238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20 > 7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0 That 's the string to find. Next It is faster for me to step though the hives by hand, tho.. Read the text at the right hand side for C8F20, open that one then find aaca0. Once you're in aaca0 select Modify and change the "attribute" entry to 2. That's it for the Registry, hit save and exit. Now, in a command window (Win+R) open Control Panel, then System and Security, click on Power Options, Select Advanced - it's a just blue text link there, that will pop open a dialog window with a set of + signs >Open the pluses and read the entries. You want longer times for power, so select a few to change and test. Items on the PCIE bus may need to be higher. You're using this interface to set values to drivers -- regedit can do that but Windows team kept this box active instead of updating via the registry, it is a bit clunky. Once the new values are written you might have it solved , but keep up with any changes so you know which to try next. I have never had this fail, it does work, I've used it at least 50 times but I don't remember precisely which settings I change., it will go well once you get the timeouts adjusted. Best!!
@@SISSYPUSS Hi! Thanks a ton for the reply, I managed to edit the registry value just fine but got lost in the power settings in control panel. Did you mean the "change advanced power settings" that you can adjust on specific power plan setting? The settings that I found from the drop-down list for PCIe bus is only the setting for link state power management, with the options being "off", "moderate power savings", and "maximum power savings" is this the correct one to change? Oh and btw I'm on windows 11 22H2
@@kevinchristian3984 The link state for PCI should be - Moderate Power Savings, . Few others - Intel Graphics = Balanced, Ssytem Unattended Sleep timeout - 8, Sleep timer after - 10, Hibernate - never, Processor - min 5%, max - 100%, Display Off -after 5min, USB Selective Suspend - Enabled, Allow wake timers - enable, Multimedia - Prevent idling to sleep, Video Playback quality bias - Video Playback - Performance, When Playing Video - Optimize video quality. Same windows build, that's the list on this pc.
The OC headroom concern can be valid for sure. But I think some cards can be misleading. For example the gtx 1080ti. Some of the AIB cards were clocked super high, near the point of instability (zotac amp extreme for example). +25mhz core would start to become unstable in some titles. Other cards like a gigabyte turbo 1080ti could OC a lot more as both cards seems to max out near the same core clock, but the gigabyte card was clocked lower. So OC headroom would be good to look at in related to the actual core clock being achieved
This is why I dislike the way clock targets are shown in Afterburner as an offset rather than absolute value - quite a few people seem to compare offsets which is meaningless unless comparing to an identical SKU with the AIBs all running their own custom clocks
I find it interesting that you go the route of meeting people at their houses. I understand that approach, and can see how it would give you more recourse if something goes wrong. I generally like to meet people in public for safety reasons, accepting that there might be other risk associated with that.
I can put +200mhz in my memory clock on an rx 590 that I bought used. But even if input +50mhz at the core clock it crashes instantly in stock voltage. Does that mean my videocard does not jave much juice left?
Brian bro. I just bought a EVGA 3070 FTW Ultra. I want to test it with after burner ect as it 2nd hand. What specs / ratings should i expect to get for it on after burner if its good? or bad? Thank you.
Hello Brian Could you make a video about Electric Blower which you have recommended from Ali? I see that you are still using DataVac from old days. Maybe some comparison between this Electric Blower and DataVac.
Bought a second hand 6700xt a while back, tried to open and clean it up and got a stripped screw(was covered with a white sticker) that wont loosen up. The card works but I guess next time I’ll check the screws first…
Bryan i got a old card on my main pc its a RX 550 /550 4 gig and since i bought it the fans never come on only to start then there off i run it for hours and hours never gets hot probably ? why is that do you know i always wanted to know im using a Ryzen 7 3700x 16gig 3200 ram lots fans inside to so why does the fan on the GPU never come on ?
I never bought a PC part used. I see some good local GPU deals that state "Can be tested on the spot" -- i.e. when meeting in person. What does that mean? Does the seller show the card working or do I have to bring my own PC (lol) and test it there?
Do you have any scientific proof for the claim that if you don't have much oc headroom then the gpu is at the end of its life? I would say that is rather a question of silicon lottery and quality than lifespan
hay Tech yes city i got a video card im hoping you might be able to pull a merical and you can get it working where do i send it to ect thanks mate its a rtx 2070 super it was given to me to replace the spud of a GPU i have atm can you help mate
I don’t think that not having much wiggle room on the sliders necessarily means they are failing. I’ve had new cards with barely any OC room while others have a lot. It is just how the silicon lottery works. It could mean they are failing but it could just mean it was a bad chip that just managed to pass QC at the factory.
I was about to comment that, very bold claim here. I don't know why he said that. But it has indeed to do with silicon lottery. For example, if I had bought a brand new card and I don't have much wiggle room, according to that logic it should have little life left. That makes no sense. However, I think he said that because it can have to do with degrading. But that has to be over a long period of time. Not just one or close to 2 years. Unless very heavily abused.
@@glorfindel4945 He said it because that's his excuse for sending the card back when it doesn't OC like he wants. He lost the silicone lottery and can't handle that. It's a lame excuse and not fair to the seller
Gotta say, that if I had a GPU that was working perfectly in my machine and I sold it, and then the buyer came back and said it doesn't have enough overclock headroom and it might fail, I'd be telling them to go take a jump. I've always tested cards with Superposition or similar, and if it runs that multiple times ok then it's good imo.
Yeah i agree. Sometimes it's completely luck of the draw if a card will have decent oc headroom or not, even when it's brand new or taken good care of. I still think it's smart to try the card yourself before you buy so you can make an informed choice if you want it or not, but I don't think its ethical to demand your money back if you cant push the clocks as high as you wanted to on some guy's used gpu.
didnt know that gpu can still be faulty once you install the drivers, bought a used xfx qick 6700xt for $290 on a local store, see the bios ver and stress test it and it was all good (i guess?), but i don't think the drivers are installed while doing that, they provide warranty for a year at least i just cant help but feel paranoid lols
I am glad I made productive decisions about my finances that changed my life forever. I am a single mother living in Vancouver Canada, bought my second house in September and hoping to retire next year at 50 if things keep going smoothly for me
Making it out at a young age is quite difficult. I started a side hustle at 17, saved up and made some good investments. l'm 28,live on my own and having a good life for myself. Big ups to you and everyone out there trying
@@lilianazuluaga6504 Yes I recommend the service of Mrs Claire Anne Steinglass she is a great financial consultant and has made a great impact on my financial journey.
Great video as always with some great real world tips. Asking to see the card working and meeting at their home is something I always do now. I might miss out on some deals but the amount of scammers is on the increase with the worsening economic environment. Although eBay is more expensive some deals can be had if you look for auctions ending at odd times during the working day. Do you have a guide on removing the GPU fans ? Sometimes a lot of dust gets caught under the fans.
A reflow might be able to fix that one. Looks like just bag BGA connection to GPU or mem. Use a decent thermometer and cook at 200-210c for up to10 mins, making sure to protect caps and connectors from radiant heat. Trick is to keep the electrolyte from boiling. The rest can take it. Can't really hurt it any more anyway, right? Did just that to a GTX 560 with similar looking problem years ago, even popped a cap cause I didn't cover them, and it still worked fine. Could even go by eye. Just watch the stickers. Should be done when they start to darken.
I got an asrock 6700xt and when I got it, I had and have had nothing indicate that there is an issue with this card. But I also want to be able to do maintenance on the card after a while and I cannot for the life of me find anywhere on the internet how to take the card apart. I've tried a few times just to see if I could but I just can't figure out what will separate the pcb from the heat sink without feeling like I'm about to break it. Is there anywhere I can find a tear down of the card so I can learn how to maintain it or am I screwed if my temps start getting out of whack down the line? And if possible, could you provide a teardown of that particular model or the 6600xt or 6650xt being they're similarly designed?
As a Canadian, I'm basically limited to deals within my country because shipping from the States is so expensive. With that being said, some cards within Canada are still very well-priced, and it seems that free shipping is common. I guess a lot of sellers live up to the stereotype
Prices on new cards have fallen so fast I think you are better off buying new, but if you are scraping thin as possible I think you raise some good points.
@@bora7494 @Ayla Kobayashii , yep never ruled out a good deal, in addition you might see a good deal a realise the card spent most of its life mining crypto with different firmware to make it run beyond its initial limits then reset back to a regular card, this might be ok for the casual user but if you plan to push that card you might find it fail sooner than later, also no warranty, so even if its is 50 percent off that to me is still not a good deal, I want something I can take back within a year period if it fails, if its a low end card sure take the risk but anything mid to high range ill just get it new, Australia is terrible online for deals but Tech yes puts in the work to get good deals on more local areas that online can never be, people scout ebay here like hawks here for good deals, bidding is a joke, and hate bidding is a problem(where you bid to a high value then refuse to pay so the item goes on bid again) is far too common.
@@buda3d2007 I got myself a good used RX 6700 XT on Ebay for less than $350. Was mined on, but is in great condition. What do you want to buy? And what can still be so overclocked that it makes a serious difference?
When I got my 970 locally, we tested it at sellers home (in furmark) only after we took it out, and I went home... (not everyone wants to do that, but it's the best way)
Returning a used GPU on the basis of little overclocking "headroom" is unreasonable. I've bought brand-new cards from local retailers that crash with just a +25 MHz core overclock, but run perfectly at stock (and for YEARS after). They are binned like this for a reason, from factory. You don't buy a lottery ticket, and then request your money back on the basis that you didn't win, when there was a chance to win.
Yesterday almost did buy a evga gtx 1070 for 125 euros. But did pass that deal because I didn’t like the person and he wanted to meet at a gas station.
Nice video, did not know about the msi afterburner sliders test. I just bought a 580 and this would have helped a lot if I had found it before. I was fooled by the seller.I did not open the card.He assured me like 10 times everything was fine. Brought it home. Opened the card to change the thermal paste and saw a broken support underneath the fans. Bad luck. Even though I know his house I try to avoid those trouble : (
There have been some pretty good deals on mid range to high end gpu's used on fb market place but everything else is to expensive better of buying overseas.
That is not only NZ problem, in Austria it is the same. There were some good deals after Black Friday but right now the prices are still to high and you have to be very fast.
5/10 guide you mostly instructed what to do AFTER we already buy it what's more important is BEFORE (when at seller's place, checking the card out); what to look for, check fans, noise, ask for benchmarks, which software etc... I got one from this video: before buying it, when going to the seller's house to see the card in action, make sure to check that drivers are up to date also, zero mention of BIOS flash.
The GTX 950 was just running the matrix which conflicts with windows.
Hey Bryan, great one,as usual!!!
Would you try to oven it (the 950)?
Lol
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises What's the point? He's not going to sell it in that condition anyway.
@@misterx8448
It is content!!!
You lost me on "send it back if there's no headroom". If I sell a card on eBay that works fine at stock settings, it's not *my* problem if you can't overclock it. Which I may never even have tried to do! I'd be angry if you used that as an excuse for returning it, a process which would waste my time bigly. If you demand headroom, contact the seller first.
I've bought 2 used ASUS cards from scammers. Both artifacted and one caused system crashes. ASUS RMA'ed them both and sent me new cards lol. The first one I didn't test until after ripping it apart, cleaning it out with WD 40, and repasting it haha. Best thing to do is check the remaining warranty by looking up the serial number. Then it doesn't matter if they work.
Nice. I picked up an MSI RTX 2080 Super for a great price (around 200 USD) and it was working great until it hit 100% usage then the game would just crash. Didn't matter what game it was as soon as the GPU hit 100% game crashed (not PC though). Went through the RMA process and surprisingly got an RMA number so I'm gonna send it in and see what happens.
What is rma
@@mr.arocenastech let us know
@@strydyrhellzrydyr1345 return warranty
Can you explain that process please? Theres a bunch of used cards entering my region's market, hoping to get some good deals if I can RMA them.
Keep up the great work good sir! Thank you for another in depth video with super valuable info!
You and randomgamingHD are my go to for hardware videos. Keep up the amazing work as always. ❤
RGHD is the Goat for low tier hardware shenanigans.
Both of them make videos about hardware most people can actually afford.
@@KimBoKastekniv47 4090 reviews are interesting but also just make me sad. 0.01% of gamers can afford(or willing to spend) the price. Of course we have the money but it's extra insanely irresponsible.
@@christophermullins7163 Yep, honestly surprised that the comments on those videos are itching for a 4090/7900 when a 3090/6900 is good for at least 5 years, at least I would(now with an RX 6600).
Brian, you are back in Auz, exercise Outside dude!. Fresh air and Sun!. Great videos, Thanks matey.
bruh talk about timing, i bought a used graphics card online two days ago and it's on its way to my house. nicely done video mate
The RX 6600 is the best value GPU by a long way at the moment, I'm seeing them for $190-$230 AUD locally used, talking about 2060 super performance on 100W GPU.. insane value.
8gb is kinda limited to 1080p when you want to play future games
@@Gargantura lol no
@@Gargantura GTFOH with the ignorant comments. 8gb is only a limiting factor of you like the 30fps cinematic experience. Otherwise.. it's perfect. Goober smooch.
The 3070 ti had 8gb.. it's twice the performance of a 6600.
@@Gargantura Based on what data?
Grabbed a mining 6700xt for 220,- Stress tested it with Furmark with mem OC to make sure it's stable and everything works flawlessly, all temps in check. Boost like it supposed to do past 2600mhz. What a deal, so happy. :D
Think i got myself an ABSOLUTE TECH YES FIND, ended up grabbing myself a Zotac GTX 1070 for £50 (AUD$90) with cooling issues. Nice new thermal paste and its all set.
Also grabbed an older Inno3d GTX 1060 6GB for £25 (AUD$45) with faulty fans and corrosion across the heatsink pipes and motherboard. previous person said it was untested as it gave no power. definitely looks beat up but i gave it the best cleaning i could do and brought the best life it could have back into it. so far running okay with decent headroom on overclocking. seems like its a pretty solid card (for now)
This channel defo has inspired me to go look for the best deals when it comes to gaming on a budget. Thank you Bryan
I was excited to see your RX 6600 find🤟
Thanks for the testing and awesome info!
great video. i just picked up a 2060s FE for 175$ usd from ebay and picked it up local. I got super lucky and scored this card from a gamer. its basically mint condition and i just love the look of the 2000 series FE cards. Im pairing it with a 5600 cpu i got for 118$ usd on cyber monday. My buddys pc is way over due for and upgrade and hes a 1080p gamer. I cant wait to see what his new pc can do with these two new upgrades. I just have to update his AM4 MB bios and its off to the races! Keep up the good content and make that money! I do basically what you do just because i really enjoy building and refurbishing pcs and pc parts. Cheers man.. ✌
I got that same cpu deal. Gonna pair it with my 2080 super
@Juri V I have a pc with a 3060ti and it’s a 1440p machine! Highly recommended for 1440p plus it will pair really well with the 5700x..👍🏼👍🏼
Always love to watch used gravis cards guides
Best local deals I've grabbed this month: HP prebuilt with R7 1700, 16gigs DDR4, 1tb HDD - $100 USD ---&--- MSI 2070S, NZXT H510, 2x NZXT fans, 4x Noctua fans - $200 USD ------- That HP prebuilt got an NVME boot drive and a 1650S then paired with a basic monitor/keyboard/mouse and sold for $450. The 2070S, case, and fans are going into a commissioned built with a price of $1200 (already paid for, waiting on more parts to be delivered). ------- From what I'm seeing in my area, it seems like a lot of the best deals are coming from complete systems or package deals. Likely because people are currently doing full system upgrades.
Brian, be careful driving on the left side of the road...Sheesh that is scaring the phuck out of me!!! 🤣😂🤣😂
Ah yes, finally something to watch that's both entertaining and informative.
Lots of work, 1-2 hrs, cleaning, and testing, after cleaning and re-padding and thermal pasting, ALL of them better than the USeD originals. I think it's quite difficult to buy at the prices you indicated esp. in Melb.
Tell me about it, here in the UK you're looking at +100% the prices second hand that Bryan gets!
Here is a tip for you.. one of the best deals I found was during the last peak in mining profit(2020). I got a full tower 7700 i7, 16gb ddr4, gtx 1080, 850watt EVGA, 500gb ssd for $250.. if you know the prices of GPU during the peak you know that is an amazing deal.
What happened is, I found an ad on Facebook Market where the specs of the system were in an image several images back. The specs were not typed into the description so this ad would not show up in a search for "gtx" etc. This allowed the PC to go unnoticed by miners and I scored BIG. This PC was being sold by a traveling VR company. The system only had 50hours of use when I purchased and based on it's condition, this seemed accurate. The card is running strong years later and the slider have something like +175 and +475 with no additional voltage.
I have always searched for these deals and have never spent but around half of the current fair market value of any particular price of hardware for the last 15 years. This does not include my zen3 5600 b450 I recently purchased for $200 from microcenter. I couldn't pass that deal up.
Cheers.
Stole that 1080! If you know the market and monitor closely, no matter the product you can get some amazing deals. Bought the cheapest BMW X5 sports in Australia years ago. Loved that car.
@@laowai2000 8 months ago I snagged a new open box 6950 XT reference for $420.
Hey Bryan! Could you look into exporting/selling Multi-Purpose Spray in the US? I bet several of your Tech YES Citizens abroad would love to buy some.
Did you use an underware to clean the GPU bro! Because it certainly looked like one 🤪 at 8.53
Yep, I always sold my GPU's showing them working in my secondary system with a benchmark running because that gives safety to me and the buyer because there is no doubt in what condition it was sold. So far I didn't get hosed and I didn't hose anybody either.
How do you get rid of the oily residue that is left by WD-40?
On the recommendation of The Tech Yes Man,
5 years ago, I got into used-PC flipping. I'm not trying to make money, it's just an absolute joy. I've build over 100 PC's. And these tips are gold. Have never run into brittle thermal pads. But if it happens, it's an easy fix. All considered.
Great public service work as always man. Be careful for the scammers guys, especially these days. If it seems to good to be true, it is.
hey Brian I found why your rx580s have problems
it's because they have mining bios wich is uses tighter VRAM timings to increase hashrate
the fix is to flash the original bios
Is there a guide for this
Ohhhhhh
Have you heard of nVidia MATS and MODS software? It was leaked nVidia internal testing software from the factory. I found out about it from a place on eBay that fixes graphics cards. You'll find it online. Has to be booted from a USB stick.
MSI afterburner, instead of using the slide to change the values, you can click on the box and enter '150' with your keyboard. Cheers.
7:59 what tissue did you use? Is it disinfectant cloth?
Love the content. My 3 year old Rx 590 8GB is still going strong with liquid metal and after market cooler. 👍
Man, these are some great prices! I just bought the 1660 Palit Gaming OC for 120 Euros, which is a pretty nifty deal around here in Austria. Thanks for the fun, Sir!
Finally took my first used hardware steps! Just got a primo super well kept 5700xt for $135 US. Checks out fine so far, but still need to open up.
I have a question. I just picked up a mined-on 3060 ti for cheap, still under warranty til march 2024.
The problem is when the PC is on screen inactivity timeout (windows automatically shuts off monitor) occasionally when I try to wake the display with mouse/keyboard it still received no signal, so the screen stays off but windows is running, just no display. Whenever I try to wake the display and failed that there's a "device disconnected" chime from windows. The only solution is to disconnect and reconnect the display port cable so windows "re-detects" the display. I know this is a minor gripe and I could just easily disable screen timeout altogether, but I'm just concerned it's a bad sign that could lead to more problems in the long run. Apart from this one issue the card runs fine, temps are normal and it passed stress tests with flying colors even with +300mhz on the memory clock. (I used unigine superposition 8K optimized, GPUmemtest and Timespy extreme in multiple loops each) it also handles prolonged gaming sessions like a champ.
Have someone else encountered this kind of behavior from nvidia cards? Because my other card is a radeon one (6600 XT) and it never had this kind of problem. Could the problem be software related like a BIOS/Driver one or could it be a hardware-related one and should I RMA it? (The return window from the local online marketplace where I bought this has expired, so there's no way I can send it back)
Thanks! I'm at a loss at this point any insight would be greatly appreciated
Hi Kevin. This is a problem solved through a registry setting and a Power Plan modification. To fix, you'll need to edit Windows Registry > Press Win +R and type Regedit > then search for Hardware Current Control Set > NOW this is a little more difficult because the finder can't locate these long strings, hit F3 the paste this string: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SYSTEM > CurrentControlSet > Control > Power > PowerSettings > 238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20 > 7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0
That 's the string to find. Next
It is faster for me to step though the hives by hand, tho.. Read the text at the right hand side for C8F20, open that one then find aaca0. Once you're in aaca0 select Modify and change the "attribute" entry to 2. That's it for the Registry, hit save and exit. Now, in a command window (Win+R) open Control Panel, then System and Security, click on Power Options, Select Advanced - it's a just blue text link there, that will pop open a dialog window with a set of + signs >Open the pluses and read the entries.
You want longer times for power, so select a few to change and test. Items on the PCIE bus may need to be higher. You're using this interface to set values to drivers -- regedit can do that but Windows team kept this box active instead of updating via the registry, it is a bit clunky. Once the new values are written you might have it solved , but keep up with any changes so you know which to try next.
I have never had this fail, it does work, I've used it at least 50 times but I don't remember precisely which settings I change., it will go well once you get the timeouts adjusted. Best!!
@@SISSYPUSS Hi! Thanks a ton for the reply, I managed to edit the registry value just fine but got lost in the power settings in control panel. Did you mean the "change advanced power settings" that you can adjust on specific power plan setting? The settings that I found from the drop-down list for PCIe bus is only the setting for link state power management, with the options being "off", "moderate power savings", and "maximum power savings" is this the correct one to change? Oh and btw I'm on windows 11 22H2
@@kevinchristian3984 The link state for PCI should be - Moderate Power Savings, . Few others - Intel Graphics = Balanced, Ssytem Unattended Sleep timeout - 8, Sleep timer after - 10, Hibernate - never, Processor - min 5%, max - 100%, Display Off -after 5min, USB Selective Suspend - Enabled, Allow wake timers - enable, Multimedia - Prevent idling to sleep, Video Playback quality bias - Video Playback - Performance, When Playing Video - Optimize video quality. Same windows build, that's the list on this pc.
You are a tech yes inspiration! thanks for saving me money on my first build and for all the tips! Keep up the revolutionary work!
How does your wipes not snag on the 'spikes' of the pcb? Every time I clean, that's my number one annoyance.
The OC headroom concern can be valid for sure. But I think some cards can be misleading. For example the gtx 1080ti. Some of the AIB cards were clocked super high, near the point of instability (zotac amp extreme for example). +25mhz core would start to become unstable in some titles. Other cards like a gigabyte turbo 1080ti could OC a lot more as both cards seems to max out near the same core clock, but the gigabyte card was clocked lower. So OC headroom would be good to look at in related to the actual core clock being achieved
This is why I dislike the way clock targets are shown in Afterburner as an offset rather than absolute value - quite a few people seem to compare offsets which is meaningless unless comparing to an identical SKU with the AIBs all running their own custom clocks
@@tourmaline07 yes exactly!
Hi bro can you please review the most sold graphic card from aliexpress Mingzhou rx 580 8g pls
I find it interesting that you go the route of meeting people at their houses. I understand that approach, and can see how it would give you more recourse if something goes wrong. I generally like to meet people in public for safety reasons, accepting that there might be other risk associated with that.
Try change the faulty vram. It would be awesome if you try to do some GPU repair.
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Which is more important to replace thermal pads or T.paste?
What’s the point with headroom of the clocks, I didn’t quite understand ???
I can put +200mhz in my memory clock on an rx 590 that I bought used. But even if input +50mhz at the core clock it crashes instantly in stock voltage. Does that mean my videocard does not jave much juice left?
Brian bro.
I just bought a EVGA 3070 FTW Ultra.
I want to test it with after burner ect as it 2nd hand. What specs / ratings should i expect to get for it on after burner if its good? or bad?
Thank you.
Hello Brian
Could you make a video about Electric Blower which you have recommended from Ali?
I see that you are still using DataVac from old days. Maybe some comparison between this Electric Blower and DataVac.
you know whats the problem with my Zotac GTX 950 AMP! the fans always spin even in idle
Bought a second hand 6700xt a while back, tried to open and clean it up and got a stripped screw(was covered with a white sticker) that wont loosen up. The card works but I guess next time I’ll check the screws first…
Very satisfying watching you strip the cards sped up! 🙂
Great content and love the channel! Keep up the good work.
Bryan i got a old card on my main pc its a RX 550 /550 4 gig and since i bought it the fans never come on only to start then there off i run it for hours and hours never gets hot probably ? why is that do you know i always wanted to know im using a Ryzen 7 3700x 16gig 3200 ram lots fans inside to so why does the fan on the GPU never come on ?
What is the name of the packets that used to pack graphic cards ? i need to know 🙂
If I don't want to use a blower or pressurised can, are there any recommendations for a mini vacuum or something?
I was getting artefacts and lines on my 2060 but it turned out to be faulty hdmi cable
MSI Gaming X GTX1000 series cards use *1.5mm* pads for the VRAM.
I never bought a PC part used. I see some good local GPU deals that state "Can be tested on the spot" -- i.e. when meeting in person. What does that mean? Does the seller show the card working or do I have to bring my own PC (lol) and test it there?
Will it be wise to make a gaming and editing pc via x79 with e5 2650 v2 and rx580 graphics in 2022??need an expert suggestions before doing it.
So.. what can you do with that 950... it looks like a decent card...
You cant just throw it away are you???
Do you have any scientific proof for the claim that if you don't have much oc headroom then the gpu is at the end of its life? I would say that is rather a question of silicon lottery and quality than lifespan
Can you please tell me what site you used to find that 6600.. or any of the cards really.. thanx
were there in pc (with gtx950) lying 1of2 dimm ram at the bottom of case? :))
Bought RTX 2060 for $130 with 2Y Warranty remaining. (Good deal?)
hay Tech yes city i got a video card im hoping you might be able to pull a merical and you can get it working where do i send it to ect
thanks mate its a rtx 2070 super it was given to me to replace the spud of a GPU i have atm can you help mate
Follow up video on the GTX 950 please!
about wolf ticket protocol, You could also ask for a recent photo of the card doing a benchmark before you go all the way to pick it up.
I don't understand why the headroom has to do with if it breaks, isn't that just a chip lotto?
I really enjoy your channel, always very interesting content. Keep at it!
i live in nz and i went to go buy the same spray that u use from super cheap auto and they said they discontinued it 😭
What are your thoughts on buying through Ebay? My local market is basically nil
You are so correct. the last 6 months the profit margins on used pc market has really tightened up.
I don’t think that not having much wiggle room on the sliders necessarily means they are failing. I’ve had new cards with barely any OC room while others have a lot. It is just how the silicon lottery works. It could mean they are failing but it could just mean it was a bad chip that just managed to pass QC at the factory.
I was about to comment that, very bold claim here. I don't know why he said that. But it has indeed to do with silicon lottery. For example, if I had bought a brand new card and I don't have much wiggle room, according to that logic it should have little life left. That makes no sense. However, I think he said that because it can have to do with degrading. But that has to be over a long period of time. Not just one or close to 2 years. Unless very heavily abused.
@@glorfindel4945 He said it because that's his excuse for sending the card back when it doesn't OC like he wants. He lost the silicone lottery and can't handle that. It's a lame excuse and not fair to the seller
Where is the video with intel 5960x that we got promised ?
Gotta say, that if I had a GPU that was working perfectly in my machine and I sold it, and then the buyer came back and said it doesn't have enough overclock headroom and it might fail, I'd be telling them to go take a jump. I've always tested cards with Superposition or similar, and if it runs that multiple times ok then it's good imo.
Yeah i agree. Sometimes it's completely luck of the draw if a card will have decent oc headroom or not, even when it's brand new or taken good care of. I still think it's smart to try the card yourself before you buy so you can make an informed choice if you want it or not, but I don't think its ethical to demand your money back if you cant push the clocks as high as you wanted to on some guy's used gpu.
what kind of apps did you used to test , one of them is msi afterburner . What name of another one ?
How do you quickly find the correct thickness of thermal pads?
Tell me you didn't wipe the pcb boards with a cloth or paper towel?
Nice finds, picked up a 1660TI for 100 bucks today, should I be expecting better performance then from my old rx 580 4gb?
Great videos btw!
You should get 35% or more better performance (depending on your cpu of course)
Wow the prices are way higher in France ! Like twice. I'm sure it'll come down but it might take 6 months or more
The Tech YES Studio is BACK!
didnt know that gpu can still be faulty once you install the drivers, bought a used xfx qick 6700xt for $290 on a local store, see the bios ver and stress test it and it was all good (i guess?), but i don't think the drivers are installed while doing that, they provide warranty for a year at least i just cant help but feel paranoid lols
Can you use a Hairdryer instead of the data vac?
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Making it out at a young age is quite difficult. I started a side hustle at 17, saved up and made some good investments. l'm 28,live on my own and having a good life for myself. Big ups to you and everyone out there trying
Sounds like plan, how do you put money to work?
Thanks for replying me, I've heard so many people talk about investment but none had said how to do it right.
This is awesome, please can you be of an assistance to me how can I connect with your broker?
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Great video as always with some great real world tips.
Asking to see the card working and meeting at their home is something I always do now. I might miss out on some deals but the amount of scammers is on the increase with the worsening economic environment. Although eBay is more expensive some deals can be had if you look for auctions ending at odd times during the working day.
Do you have a guide on removing the GPU fans ? Sometimes a lot of dust gets caught under the fans.
@@eye776 Thanks for the info, I have a 1060 3gb that I need to do a full clean on. The seller said "it's a bit dusty", worst I've ever seen :)
A reflow might be able to fix that one. Looks like just bag BGA connection to GPU or mem. Use a decent thermometer and cook at 200-210c for up to10 mins, making sure to protect caps and connectors from radiant heat. Trick is to keep the electrolyte from boiling. The rest can take it. Can't really hurt it any more anyway, right?
Did just that to a GTX 560 with similar looking problem years ago, even popped a cap cause I didn't cover them, and it still worked fine.
Could even go by eye. Just watch the stickers. Should be done when they start to darken.
I snag a 6700xt strix for 320usd, because 1660 doesn’t go lower from 200usd in my country and 6600 doesn’t go lower than 250usd used
I got an asrock 6700xt and when I got it, I had and have had nothing indicate that there is an issue with this card. But I also want to be able to do maintenance on the card after a while and I cannot for the life of me find anywhere on the internet how to take the card apart. I've tried a few times just to see if I could but I just can't figure out what will separate the pcb from the heat sink without feeling like I'm about to break it. Is there anywhere I can find a tear down of the card so I can learn how to maintain it or am I screwed if my temps start getting out of whack down the line? And if possible, could you provide a teardown of that particular model or the 6600xt or 6650xt being they're similarly designed?
Hot card=easy separation
seriously, these prices are just a dream here in Germany. a gtx 1660 super for ~80€? not even a faulty one
but how am i supposed to save $ when you are out there buying them up and flipping them?
You just saved my day mah brother. Which size thermalpad did you use on the 1070 Gigabyte Mini?
As a Canadian, I'm basically limited to deals within my country because shipping from the States is so expensive. With that being said, some cards within Canada are still very well-priced, and it seems that free shipping is common. I guess a lot of sellers live up to the stereotype
Prices on new cards have fallen so fast I think you are better off buying new, but if you are scraping thin as possible I think you raise some good points.
UK eBay used RX 6700XT are £349 where new is £399. Only 50 smackers off is not a great deal used.
Depends a lot on the market. In my area the 2nd hand ones are 30 - 50% cheaper
This depends a lot on the country. In Brasil, there can be a literal 50% difference on certain cards, depending on the region of the country.
@@bora7494 @Ayla Kobayashii , yep never ruled out a good deal, in addition you might see a good deal a realise the card spent most of its life mining crypto with different firmware to make it run beyond its initial limits then reset back to a regular card, this might be ok for the casual user but if you plan to push that card you might find it fail sooner than later, also no warranty, so even if its is 50 percent off that to me is still not a good deal, I want something I can take back within a year period if it fails, if its a low end card sure take the risk but anything mid to high range ill just get it new, Australia is terrible online for deals but Tech yes puts in the work to get good deals on more local areas that online can never be, people scout ebay here like hawks here for good deals, bidding is a joke, and hate bidding is a problem(where you bid to a high value then refuse to pay so the item goes on bid again) is far too common.
@@buda3d2007 I got myself a good used RX 6700 XT on Ebay for less than $350.
Was mined on, but is in great condition.
What do you want to buy? And what can still be so overclocked that it makes a serious difference?
When I got my 970 locally, we tested it at sellers home (in furmark) only after we took it out, and I went home... (not everyone wants to do that, but it's the best way)
Returning a used GPU on the basis of little overclocking "headroom" is unreasonable.
I've bought brand-new cards from local retailers that crash with just a +25 MHz core overclock, but run perfectly at stock (and for YEARS after). They are binned like this for a reason, from factory.
You don't buy a lottery ticket, and then request your money back on the basis that you didn't win, when there was a chance to win.
Can I return the card after I have opened it and cleaned and it ends up not running well?
Yesterday almost did buy a evga gtx 1070 for 125 euros. But did pass that deal because I didn’t like the person and he wanted to meet at a gas station.
Hey. Any other tip on which thermal pads to buy?
@tech yes city I can't find that multi-purpose spray here in my country, do you have some alternative brands?
look for the cheapest WD40 knockoff you can find, its all it is.
@@ChristmasCrustacean1 oh, so it's just like wd40. thanks.
@@p0gits02 no problem, its mostly mineral oil and an accelerant to get it out of the can :)
Nice video, did not know about the msi afterburner sliders test. I just bought a 580 and this would have helped a lot if I had found it before. I was fooled by the seller.I did not open the card.He assured me like 10 times everything was fine. Brought it home. Opened the card to change the thermal paste and saw a broken support underneath the fans. Bad luck. Even though I know his house I try to avoid those trouble : (
whats the point of the overclocking to "see the life span left" isnt that about silicon lottery?
can't buy the Multi-Purpose spray anymore, what can we use instead?
Shame the NZ prices are still too high. I hope Tech Yes City does a NZ part hunt one day!
There have been some pretty good deals on mid range to high end gpu's used on fb market place but everything else is to expensive better of buying overseas.
That is not only NZ problem, in Austria it is the same. There were some good deals after Black Friday but right now the prices are still to high and you have to be very fast.
5/10 guide
you mostly instructed what to do AFTER we already buy it
what's more important is BEFORE (when at seller's place, checking the card out); what to look for, check fans, noise, ask for benchmarks, which software etc...
I got one from this video: before buying it, when going to the seller's house to see the card in action, make sure to check that drivers are up to date
also, zero mention of BIOS flash.
what driver to miners use? is it any different than a gaming driver?