I left corporate 2 years ago and used Windows since v1.01 and all MS software. Both my laptops flunked the upgrade to W11 test so I installed Mint 21 Vanessa 2 years ago on one and liked it, so I installed it on the other. I'm a fan of Linux Mint. I'm all in and don't see me ever going back.
While I apprciate making things more accesible, I also appriciate your technical discussions as I always learn something new. I have no formal traning in computer science or programming but each time I watch one of your videos I come away with some new knowledge that often leads to new skills.
I really enjoy the more technical aspects of your reviews. There are a million people on RUclips who can give a surface level impression, so I think your more technical approach was great. I hope you don't completely remove the more technical insights.
I started with Mint. After Distro Hopping all over the place, I eventually went back to Mint, with another machine on MX. While Mint is good for Newbies, it is no slouch for experienced users either. Each to their own of course and your mileage may vary, as they say.
I started in November 2023 with Debian 12 with Gnome, then went to Kubuntu, then Ubuntu 24. But after I was done with experiments I settled on Linux Mint. It's just perfect for me.
I just installed Mint last weekend and I've been having a good time! With the hindsight of knowing how easy it was, I keep thinking I could've handled tinkering with Debian instead for a little more to chew on. I guess what I'm saying is that new users should have nothing to fear! It's very doable. I had their text guide from their website open on my phone while I was doing it and you really can't go wrong if you follow the guide.
Great, well-presented and very good-humored video👏. As a very new user of Linux Mint, and somebody who also plans to try other distros in the future (likely Zorin and PopOS), I really enjoyed your video. I look forward to watching more videos from your channel in the days and weeks, ahead, too😁👍! Thanks for your hard work - I'll be hittting the 'Subscribe' button in just a second🎯!
So many great distros for new users of Linux. I've tried Linux Mint and Pop OS they are both fantastic and there was minimal tinkering needed. Neither are my prefered for my homeserver or desktop but they work well. I actually threw PopOS on my Laptop which admittedly I don't use much but I do like not having to worry about surprises with it. On the note of the video format, I think we need those rants preferably compiled every few videos.
Greetings from Brazil! I am a statistician and I really love Linux. I use it on my main computer everyday. In my old computer I used Mint, in my Ryzen 7 computer I use Gnome Ubuntu. I dont know why spreadsheets are so much faster in Gnome than in Mint in this Ryzen 7 computer.
I did a lot of distro hopping, especially when snaps came out. Keep coming back to Mint and im glad they finally updated their kernel 😅 it just works. PopOS looks nice but i think I'll wait for them to iron out Cosmic DE a bit more
Love this video, and it was really helpful, but please post the rants. I really want to see them. I've been trying Linux Mint, MX Linux, and Nobara. I'm definitely leaning towards Linux Mint though.
I am now using Ubuntu 22.04. I usually upgrade the January after release. But 22.04 was so horrible that it took me almost two years to upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04 finally.
@DJ Definitely don't have an issue with you simplifying things for people that don't have the technical depth of understanding. Though I would say that you would best served not to abandon that technical side given so many do want that sort of thing. Even thse 'new ones' without the depth now will be looking for it later. Then will where they go for it if you are one less person giving it as well as you do? So maybe you can put the deeper stuff AFTER a simple beginner side/non-technical 'beginning of video' That's my thoughts on it to you DJ. Best of outcomes for you and your channel. And peace to you :)
I came from UNIX. love a part of your comments, not share all your opinions, fundamentally about Ubuntu. i feel your bias to Fedora. In my humble opinion, will feel nicer if you speak from a neutral position. Keep this excellent work. Cheers
This format is very appropriate for desktop distros, thank you. I can understand (or imagine) that fine differences in performance make a real difference on servers, but it's all Linux, and at the desktop I wonder just how much difference in performance there is? MX Linux is often described as lightweight and performance oriented--can you point me, please, to comparisons in performance of desktop tasks--like reformatting a long word processor document, or processing a RAW image file--between lean distros and the friendly ones? Perhaps also the audience of this channel is not about to switch from Windows, but is likely to be advising friends/relatives on the switch. In which case, it is necessary but not easy to drop one's own preferences and think about a user who actually doesn't WANT to understand their computer, but just wants to do stuff with it (like most folk use a phone). Don't put your cousins and your aunts onto Arch, btw.
You right about performance, when I started the benchmarks there was a huge difference between distro performance, but over time they have all pretty much gotten within about 1% of each other (with. few outliers) so talking about performance is over for now, that 1% is all in the noise now. Thanks for the comment and the feed back on the new format, very much appreciated! As for your question, I will check into that, I still use vi for writing, I am so backwards sometimes.
I like the simple format as well, but maybe you could do the simple stuff in the beginning and then delve into the deeper stuff towards the end of the video.
I've enjoyed using Linux Mint so far, started with 21.1 (MATE) and am on 21.3 now. Will probably wait a while before upgrading to 22. Has anyone here used DeaDBeeF music player with Linux Mint 22 (MATE) ?
You do you, DJW. Your high level and low level knowledge is invaluable to learn from. Try not to listen too much to people saying you should change your format
I usually dont but there have been a bunch of those comments about they have no idea what I am saying...so I take notice when that happens. Anyway thanks for the feedback very much appreciated!
I like the rants, especially if it is about the Linux Foundation cutting budget for the kernel. Bryan Lunduke showed it: it was halved in the last year from 4% to 2% of their budget. They spend a lot of money on non Linux stuff (like software for farmers, AI...) and even some non-computing stuff (woke nonsense) but the Linux kernel, the core thing of Linux, that they don't care much about anymore. So feel free to leave that rant in, it needs to be said. 😉
I have all my machines set up to boot both Mint and Ubuntu, and find Mint infinitely more friendly. The snap package on Ubuntu drives me crazy, especially the way it is intertwined with Firefox. But Corporate requires Ubuntu on our dev machines (we develop embedded systems on ARM) so we have to put up with it. At least they're not demanding that we use Windows anymore!!
Nice in regards to you can use Linux for dev, that is awesome. We also used Linux for development although there were a few stubborn people that insisted on using WIndows.
@@CyberGizmo In the last five years since I started ARM development, I've only had to use Windows once to debug an old C# test applications that was written a decade ago to drive the ancient automated test machinery in the lab, since the machinery only came with Windows drivers. We ended up creating a new test rig that could be driven by an Ubuntu laptop using python!
Narrative comes off as a better production, to newer linux users. More advanced users probably wouldn't care either way, living on the edge or stories.
Honestly, I can't work with Debian. I tried it in the past, for me it is complicated and I use Arch. The lack of a root-user, the fact that you can't use useradd, the package commands (like updating meaning syncing the mirrors). It is all fine once you know it but it definitely is not easier than Arch in my experience. But use whatever you want to use, Debian is fine if you don't need the latest software, it might be fine if you need it if using the Sid-repositories is ok for you, I lack experience with that to have an opinion about it.
You can enable root, just give it a password during install or later from the command line, just remember you wont have sudo setup for your first user account if you do that. and I use adduser not useradd on Debian, useradd doesnt do enough in one go, us Linux people are lazy. I also use Arch btw
Mint was my introduction to Linux back in 2020, although at the time I was never able to actually install it. Regardless, I think Mint is good for the people it targets, but it's not for me anymore. Mint has too much pre-installed software for me, and I like KDE+Plasma.
I'll keep saying this ; Mint would be better served if the team dropped the Ubuntu base and solely focused on the Debian pool. I could probably see myself either going Debian or LMDE should something happen to Slackware, then my other choice would be a BSD .
MX Linux paid to be at the top of distrowatch all these years, right? Most people are better off just learning Arch for customization and tinkering nowadays. Then real Linux tweakers can eventually hop to Nix or Guix
Windows users will found Mint very familiar. Both are good DE for clickers that probably they wont understand differents btw windows and Linux os at all. 😂
@@michaelwright2986 IRL work , Operating System is not user choice... It might need to be Windoz, or OSX or Linux, etc.. or combination of systems! Clickers are windows users, ubuntu users, mint users etc... whose click every were, install what ever looks "good", they know nothing about security and they dont care... These kind of users if they use linux or windows or what ever...it doesnt matter. A linux distro is not good if dont teach you what is going on in your OS, if not try to make you involve and hack your OS, but just auto-updates, auto-login, etc... what is the point to use Linux in this case? (my opinion)
@@amonaxos The point of Linux, in my case, is that it is easier to maintain and use than Windows or MacOS, and it is not trying to get control of my data like Windows. I've got nothing against people using Linux as a hobby, but it's got to the point that it's a viable option for normies just doing normy things, and having no more interest in the inner workings of their OS than they do in the workings of the phone systems. Such people should be allowed to use Linux, I think, yes?
@@michaelwright2986 May I will call you friend,? I guess yes! :D My friend everyone is free to chose his OP and use it as he like! I spent lots of years in my life supporting GNU and UNIX philosophies. And what we have now after so many years? A systemd that you cant even pipe log files, a linux kernel that break old hardware because..., Desktop Environments (included their apps) that preparing their selfs for AI control etc.. Any way my point its not to have argue...I m just fussy... regards!
@@amonaxos I understand where you're coming from. My position is that lots of people would be better off, and the world would be better off, if they used Linux instead of Windows, even modern compromised Linux, and used it with the same lack of knowledge as they currently have about Windows. It's possible. One thing that holds people back is the sense that the Linux world is the preserve of either greybeard server admim wizards, or those who want to keep it as a secret boys' club. We certainly need the wizards like you; the annoying teenagers are only a problem in so far as they mess up the comments threads and make Linux daunting to someone who's looking around to see if a simple DE is right for them. I use Mint, btw, as I have work to do.
I respect what LM is doing since it's not just a reskin distributions but the center of Cinnamon desktop development. Personally I'm a not a fan of Cinnamon. I think LM team is narrowing their user market with the choice of not supporting GNOME/KDE. That's the reason why I prefer Fedora and Arch. GNOME is home unless its bad, then I move to KDE instead . 😎
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I left corporate 2 years ago and used Windows since v1.01 and all MS software. Both my laptops flunked the upgrade to W11 test so I installed Mint 21 Vanessa 2 years ago on one and liked it, so I installed it on the other. I'm a fan of Linux Mint. I'm all in and don't see me ever going back.
While I apprciate making things more accesible, I also appriciate your technical discussions as I always learn something new. I have no formal traning in computer science or programming but each time I watch one of your videos I come away with some new knowledge that often leads to new skills.
Thanks for your perspective, I appreciate it!
Woh woh I need to hear that rant please!
I really enjoy the more technical aspects of your reviews. There are a million people on RUclips who can give a surface level impression, so I think your more technical approach was great. I hope you don't completely remove the more technical insights.
Good feedback, thank you!
I started with Mint. After Distro Hopping all over the place, I eventually went back to Mint, with another machine on MX. While Mint is good for Newbies, it is no slouch for experienced users either. Each to their own of course and your mileage may vary, as they say.
Thanks Tony for sharing that
I like this new format. But keep talking about advanced things aswell!
I started in November 2023 with Debian 12 with Gnome, then went to Kubuntu, then Ubuntu 24. But after I was done with experiments I settled on Linux Mint. It's just perfect for me.
I just installed Mint last weekend and I've been having a good time! With the hindsight of knowing how easy it was, I keep thinking I could've handled tinkering with Debian instead for a little more to chew on. I guess what I'm saying is that new users should have nothing to fear! It's very doable. I had their text guide from their website open on my phone while I was doing it and you really can't go wrong if you follow the guide.
Nice overview! I still like Ubuntu for the way they customise Gnome. Please keep producing advanced videos as well. Your knowledge is invaluable.
The best gnome is no gnome
The best gnome is now cosmic
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated!
Really like the new format!
That said, my only complain with the old one was the coverage of "marginal" changes. Like
I was thinking of making a short out of them, still thinking about it..
@@CyberGizmo that sounds great!
Great, well-presented and very good-humored video👏.
As a very new user of Linux Mint, and somebody who also plans to try other distros in the future (likely Zorin and PopOS), I really enjoyed your video. I look forward to watching more videos from your channel in the days and weeks, ahead, too😁👍!
Thanks for your hard work - I'll be hittting the 'Subscribe' button in just a second🎯!
I like this organization. would love to hear the rants sometimes :D
I might put those online, just thinking about it. Thanks for the comment appreciate the feedback!
@@CyberGizmo Oh! That would be GREAT! ☺
New Linux Mint user here. Really enjoyed the video!
awesome! glad you iked it
So many great distros for new users of Linux. I've tried Linux Mint and Pop OS they are both fantastic and there was minimal tinkering needed. Neither are my prefered for my homeserver or desktop but they work well. I actually threw PopOS on my Laptop which admittedly I don't use much but I do like not having to worry about surprises with it. On the note of the video format, I think we need those rants preferably compiled every few videos.
Good feedback, thank you so much appreciate it
"Another long rant deleted here" I'm very much enjoying the author's sense of humour as well as the concise, authoritative and useful content. :-)
I like the new format. I'm definitely more likely to send others to these videos now.
"Some people call it freedom, I call it chaos!" LOL me too!!!! Right on the dot :D Thanks for the video :)
Great minds thing alike they say... and you are welcome
Same here Don, I first tried Linux in 1997. I keep meaning to try that original distro in a VM and re-live the whole experience.
OMG, LOL nooooo don't do it!
Greetings from Brazil! I am a statistician and I really love Linux. I use it on my main computer everyday. In my old computer I used Mint, in my Ryzen 7 computer I use Gnome Ubuntu. I dont know why spreadsheets are so much faster in Gnome than in Mint in this Ryzen 7 computer.
I would've watched that long rant (edit: both of them)
How about a kind of out-takes video: The Deleted Rants of D J Ware.
Not bad not bad...
Thanks for your thoughts sir
Very good video DJ,I have been running Linux Mint for years and also MX Linux and that is also an excellent system as you say.
Thanks for the feedback @derekr54 much appreciated!
I did a lot of distro hopping, especially when snaps came out. Keep coming back to Mint and im glad they finally updated their kernel 😅 it just works.
PopOS looks nice but i think I'll wait for them to iron out Cosmic DE a bit more
I wish Mint would dump ubuntu and make LMDE their main Mint version.
...sign me up, too. I'm ready for that. 🤔
Good episode!
Thank!
If Mint now keep the kernel more up to date, like Edge did, it becomes even more attractive
Love this video, and it was really helpful, but please post the rants. I really want to see them.
I've been trying Linux Mint, MX Linux, and Nobara. I'm definitely leaning towards Linux Mint though.
LOL, thanks Leahi84 I might put up the rants, but I get carried away sometimes the soap box is well worn here
...looking the video on Linux Mint 22.😊
Waiting for a dwm-review. 😉
I am now using Ubuntu 22.04. I usually upgrade the January after release. But 22.04 was so horrible that it took me almost two years to upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04 finally.
24.04 is a mess, almost a train wreck for me, hope they get a patch out soon
@DJ
Definitely don't have an issue with you simplifying things for people that don't have the technical depth of understanding. Though I would say that you would best served not to abandon that technical side given so many do want that sort of thing. Even thse 'new ones' without the depth now will be looking for it later. Then will where they go for it if you are one less person giving it as well as you do?
So maybe you can put the deeper stuff AFTER a simple beginner side/non-technical 'beginning of video'
That's my thoughts on it to you DJ. Best of outcomes for you and your channel. And peace to you :)
Thanks the feedback much appreciated!
love the new format. I'm still fascinated by the Linux Kernel, are you planning any videos on this ?
For 6.8? I did that already when I covered Ubuntu 24.04, and thanks for the feedback @leetucker9938!
I came from UNIX. love a part of your comments, not share all your opinions, fundamentally about Ubuntu. i feel your bias to Fedora. In my humble opinion, will feel nicer if you speak from a neutral position. Keep this excellent work. Cheers
Abbondanza! Distributions and Apps. Not lacking or wanting for anything.
This format is very appropriate for desktop distros, thank you. I can understand (or imagine) that fine differences in performance make a real difference on servers, but it's all Linux, and at the desktop I wonder just how much difference in performance there is? MX Linux is often described as lightweight and performance oriented--can you point me, please, to comparisons in performance of desktop tasks--like reformatting a long word processor document, or processing a RAW image file--between lean distros and the friendly ones?
Perhaps also the audience of this channel is not about to switch from Windows, but is likely to be advising friends/relatives on the switch. In which case, it is necessary but not easy to drop one's own preferences and think about a user who actually doesn't WANT to understand their computer, but just wants to do stuff with it (like most folk use a phone). Don't put your cousins and your aunts onto Arch, btw.
You right about performance, when I started the benchmarks there was a huge difference between distro performance, but over time they have all pretty much gotten within about 1% of each other (with. few outliers) so talking about performance is over for now, that 1% is all in the noise now. Thanks for the comment and the feed back on the new format, very much appreciated!
As for your question, I will check into that, I still use vi for writing, I am so backwards sometimes.
I like the simple format as well, but maybe you could do the simple stuff in the beginning and then delve into the deeper stuff towards the end of the video.
Yeah good thought and thanks for the feedback much appreciated!
Ubuntu has been most stable system I have used lately.
Try installing rocm from amd on mint or other options. Made for Ubuntu
I've enjoyed using Linux Mint so far, started with 21.1 (MATE) and am on 21.3 now.
Will probably wait a while before upgrading to 22.
Has anyone here used DeaDBeeF music player with Linux Mint 22 (MATE) ?
what craters does ubuntu 24.04 desktop have? would be good to have a video on that!
Yeah a good suggestion, by the time I get it out we may have a patch though 24.04.1 may fix it, but even that got delayed due to bugs. *sigh*
You do you, DJW. Your high level and low level knowledge is invaluable to learn from. Try not to listen too much to people saying you should change your format
I usually dont but there have been a bunch of those comments about they have no idea what I am saying...so I take notice when that happens. Anyway thanks for the feedback very much appreciated!
I like the rants, especially if it is about the Linux Foundation cutting budget for the kernel. Bryan Lunduke showed it: it was halved in the last year from 4% to 2% of their budget. They spend a lot of money on non Linux stuff (like software for farmers, AI...) and even some non-computing stuff (woke nonsense) but the Linux kernel, the core thing of Linux, that they don't care much about anymore. So feel free to leave that rant in, it needs to be said. 😉
Yeah and many of the LF board members are haters of opensource
I have all my machines set up to boot both Mint and Ubuntu, and find Mint infinitely more friendly. The snap package on Ubuntu drives me crazy, especially the way it is intertwined with Firefox. But Corporate requires Ubuntu on our dev machines (we develop embedded systems on ARM) so we have to put up with it. At least they're not demanding that we use Windows anymore!!
Nice in regards to you can use Linux for dev, that is awesome. We also used Linux for development although there were a few stubborn people that insisted on using WIndows.
@@CyberGizmo In the last five years since I started ARM development, I've only had to use Windows once to debug an old C# test applications that was written a decade ago to drive the ancient automated test machinery in the lab, since the machinery only came with Windows drivers. We ended up creating a new test rig that could be driven by an Ubuntu laptop using python!
👍!
Typo: Termnals
Narrative comes off as a better production, to newer linux users. More advanced users probably wouldn't care either way, living on the edge or stories.
Honestly, I can't work with Debian. I tried it in the past, for me it is complicated and I use Arch. The lack of a root-user, the fact that you can't use useradd, the package commands (like updating meaning syncing the mirrors). It is all fine once you know it but it definitely is not easier than Arch in my experience. But use whatever you want to use, Debian is fine if you don't need the latest software, it might be fine if you need it if using the Sid-repositories is ok for you, I lack experience with that to have an opinion about it.
You can enable root, just give it a password during install or later from the command line, just remember you wont have sudo setup for your first user account if you do that. and I use adduser not useradd on Debian, useradd doesnt do enough in one go, us Linux people are lazy. I also use Arch btw
@@CyberGizmo Thanks.
just because mint uses kernel 6.8 now does not mean they won't upgrade it a few times during the mint 22 life cycle...
Yep, but it will follow what Ubuntu does
3:25 "Long Rant Deleted". Maybe about the non-core -crap- projects that the Linux Foundation funds?
ummm yep and the small amount they actually spend on Linux Kernel development
Mint was my introduction to Linux back in 2020, although at the time I was never able to actually install it. Regardless, I think Mint is good for the people it targets, but it's not for me anymore. Mint has too much pre-installed software for me, and I like KDE+Plasma.
I'll keep saying this ; Mint would be better served if the team dropped the Ubuntu base and solely focused on the Debian pool. I could probably see myself either going Debian or LMDE should something happen to Slackware, then my other choice would be a BSD .
Im in that same boat, if Linux goes it back to BSD.
MX Linux paid to be at the top of distrowatch all these years, right? Most people are better off just learning Arch for customization and tinkering nowadays. Then real Linux tweakers can eventually hop to Nix or Guix
mx is amazing though
is that how it's ranked so high? that whole list/ranking is f'd
Windows users will found Mint very familiar. Both are good DE for clickers that probably they wont understand differents btw windows and Linux os at all. 😂
By "clickers" I take it you mean people who use computers to do work IRL?
@@michaelwright2986 IRL work , Operating System is not user choice... It might need to be Windoz, or OSX or Linux, etc.. or combination of systems! Clickers are windows users, ubuntu users, mint users etc... whose click every were, install what ever looks "good", they know nothing about security and they dont care... These kind of users if they use linux or windows or what ever...it doesnt matter. A linux distro is not good if dont teach you what is going on in your OS, if not try to make you involve and hack your OS, but just auto-updates, auto-login, etc... what is the point to use Linux in this case? (my opinion)
@@amonaxos The point of Linux, in my case, is that it is easier to maintain and use than Windows or MacOS, and it is not trying to get control of my data like Windows. I've got nothing against people using Linux as a hobby, but it's got to the point that it's a viable option for normies just doing normy things, and having no more interest in the inner workings of their OS than they do in the workings of the phone systems. Such people should be allowed to use Linux, I think, yes?
@@michaelwright2986 May I will call you friend,? I guess yes! :D
My friend everyone is free to chose his OP and use it as he like! I spent lots of years in my life supporting GNU and UNIX philosophies. And what we have now after so many years? A systemd that you cant even pipe log files, a linux kernel that break old hardware because..., Desktop Environments (included their apps) that preparing their selfs for AI control etc.. Any way my point its not to have argue...I m just fussy... regards!
@@amonaxos I understand where you're coming from. My position is that lots of people would be better off, and the world would be better off, if they used Linux instead of Windows, even modern compromised Linux, and used it with the same lack of knowledge as they currently have about Windows. It's possible. One thing that holds people back is the sense that the Linux world is the preserve of either greybeard server admim wizards, or those who want to keep it as a secret boys' club. We certainly need the wizards like you; the annoying teenagers are only a problem in so far as they mess up the comments threads and make Linux daunting to someone who's looking around to see if a simple DE is right for them. I use Mint, btw, as I have work to do.
I respect what LM is doing since it's not just a reskin distributions but the center of Cinnamon desktop development. Personally I'm a not a fan of Cinnamon. I think LM team is narrowing their user market with the choice of not supporting GNOME/KDE. That's the reason why I prefer Fedora and Arch. GNOME is home unless its bad, then I move to KDE instead . 😎
Nope, I'm sorry, I use Arch btw.
(Long rant deleted)
I am building a new pc, I'm switching to Linux mint. No more windows. Just tired of it.
Welcome to Linux!!
tell the noobs to use chat gpt, i did and now i got arch from scratch, just ask a question its simple man
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