TuneD sure is a useful tool for quickly optimizing machines for particular workloads, nice to see they're using it as the default for power profile management now. The speed and performance improvements of DNF5 have been impressive especially, a great release from the Fedora Project.
Coming from 10+ years of pain in Arch (btw) and occasionally Gentoo, I just said "Whoa, bluetooth just works? And doesn't crash? The fingerprint sensor too?!" Reminds me of when I fired up Ubuntu in 2004 and said "Wow, I can actually USE this!"
Hi DJ Ware, since you mentioned Fedora as being one of your favorite distributions, do you also use other rpm distributions such as CentOS Stream and RHEL for any particular use cases?
Honestly expected more changes, but hey less changes required means the platform works good as is, i've been happy on kde plasma but will definitely try cosmic just cause i would love the option for tilling builtin when i want it
I Love KDE, a was a windows user up until less than a year ago and It has been amazing I actually dread using windows when I have to l, and that is only for VR not often, KDE is so smooth and customizable I have it looking like an XP desktop sometimes or sometimes I have it look newer than windows 11, wobbly window effects, custom cursor everything just works, k runner has changed the way I use a pc
"It will keep nagging you [to upgrade the release] though." Sometimes I think the best kept secret of Linux is that the best desktop distro would be a yearly Fedora clone that's simply that one release behind with a few setup options for desktop hardening. SUSE Slowroll is the next best thing, but it's still Alpha. (I admit I ignore Canonical completely.)
Yep, then the driver issue, or kernel issues start occuring, then its like "oh shit". *loads up google and types how to fix nvidia driver issue* or that noveua crap can't spell it.
I'm upgrading an older desktop to have 16gb ram for use with Fedora Kinoite. With 20-30 tabs in a browser 6 gb is used up pretty quickly. My "recommended" ram is 16gb. Memory is cheap.
NVIDIA driver issues on gnome and KDE, need to download maximize and minimize buttons to minimize things, bugs just the usual. Oh and you can watch porn more privately now which is good step up in the right direction.
He mentioned in his recent AMA stream that's he's been moving more and more machines over to BTRFS lately due to improvements to the filesystem, particularly speed
If they switched out the partition tool from anaconda it would be fantastic. I deleted the usb drive's partition again. Switching to a tty, next time and using fdisk or cfdisk instead.
Hey, I'd LOVE to hear your ramblings on kernel 6-12 vs the legacy RT-patched kernels which are for example currently available in Debian. Will there be any need for separate availability of RT patched kernels in the future?
Dont underestimate weak machines! Dual core with 4 Gb Ram is just fine for simple usage scenarios. I test regularly on my 2012 MacbookAir, distros with LXQT use less than 1 Gb Ram when idle. I write letters and do light internet researches on it without issues (since i love that machine).
While true Cosmic is developed by System76, it is not a distro, it is a Desktop Environment, so yeah it works on Fedora as well. Hope that helps untangle the title for you.
Fedora is a good distro, I switch to newer released about 5th or so. Flathub will keep updating for several years. I say the new Fedora take takes a cpu with 20+mb of cache, w 4 cores assigned, 8gb+ ram assigned, use it with a 4+gb gpu is a good base. When compared doing the same thing on windows it uses half the resources needed and does it faster and of course without the adds distracting you. Linux is in the last few years has taken off massively form .001of a percent to 5%+ in recent years. Importantly its does not rely on a activation server, you can easily move your os and data to a new machine at anytime and to another type of cpu too.
I noticed Cosmic prefers a GPU as well, and completely agree with you and the best thing of all, you can install a single version of linux on as many computers as you like all for the low low price of $0.00
I still get surprised by this sentiment that many Linux veterans seem to have. "It's not something you'd want to use as a daily drive, but it's always fun to play with". If I'm installing an OS it's because I have work to do and the previous install was somehow a burden - It's wild to me. I think there are so many distros, because - at least in part, people think it's fun to distro.
and this is why people use archlinux is just a hobby for them. Main reason I would never use it. I want an OS to get straight to work so I use ubuntu based distros.
I'm happy with it too, great distro, NVIDIA driver issues on gnome and KDE, need to download maximize and minimize buttons to minimize things, bugs just the usual. Oh and you can watch porn more privately now which is good step up in the right direction. Way better than Ubuntu LTS which has the option to upgrade to pro for free, which enables you to have security updates automatically, with real time performance, pre shipped with NVIDIA drivers and automatically downloads drivers based on the GPU you have, doesn't require you to do much research, very user friendly. Runs very smoothly and looks and feels like it can compete with windows. Definitely beginner friendly. Oh and has the maximize and minimize buttons by default. But who wants that!
CPU performance is less interesting to me these days. The metric to watch is power consumption which talks to battery life on a full charge. That's where ARM and Qualcomm are ahead of good ole Intel/AMD.
Oh sure I've seen people on YT try and do that, I've only seen one get close to doing it right, the rest have no idea what they are doing. In my experience that takes some very specialized (read very expensive) lab instruments to do the job properly. If I was making chips and or motherboards and could afford such machines, I wouldnt be doing a YT channel that's for sure. So probably not going to see that here unless the price for the equipment comes down, and so far it hasn't.
I have Ubuntu installed. I have my home directory on a separate hard drive, I tried to replace Ubuntu with Fedora. Unfortunately ,I was not able to get Fedora to properly recognize my preexisting home partition,. Has anyone been able to get this done successfully? I have also tried the new Fedora 42 installer. but still No luck, Has anyone had success doing this ?---- Well after trying again I figured it out. I needed to specify the location for /home rather than just /
I hate Linux as a desktop, I cannot stand it but windows 11 is forcing me to move, telementry is unstoppable now and the spying was already out of control, ive tried Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Xbuntu, Kubuntu, Debian, OpenSuse, POP!_OS, Alma Linux I mean is there ONE linux distro that has a desktop that just works good with decent scaling etc I mean its bad, linux desktop is for masochist
You have 12 different Desktop Environments to choose from on Linux and if that doesn't work you could roll your own using Window Managers there's almost and here is a list of those: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_window_managers. And here is a list of Wayland WMs: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_display_servers#Wayland. You can also check out reddit r/unixporn, its not porn, its people showing off what they did with their window managers. .Edit: Yeah the art of customizing Linux WIndow Managers is called "ricing". I am old school I prefer the term modding
TuneD sure is a useful tool for quickly optimizing machines for particular workloads, nice to see they're using it as the default for power profile management now. The speed and performance improvements of DNF5 have been impressive especially, a great release from the Fedora Project.
Slackware! OMG, that was my first linux distro ever!
@@SIackware how does tuneD compare to auto-cpufreq?
Happy with Fedora. Upgrade was smooth with no issues.
Same!
keep telling yourself that. :D
yep no issues. Fedora working great for me.
I run Fedora 41 with Gnome. I do not think it is out of this world. I think it is boring and just works. That is why I use it, it just works.
He's referring to Cosmic DE
Coming from 10+ years of pain in Arch (btw) and occasionally Gentoo, I just said "Whoa, bluetooth just works? And doesn't crash? The fingerprint sensor too?!" Reminds me of when I fired up Ubuntu in 2004 and said "Wow, I can actually USE this!"
Hi DJ Ware, since you mentioned Fedora as being one of your favorite distributions, do you also use other rpm distributions such as CentOS Stream and RHEL for any particular use cases?
I used to have a RedHat Server, but their developers licensing (free) became so cumbersom, I moved the code over to Debian and purged it.
👍Thanks DJ!
Honestly expected more changes, but hey less changes required means the platform works good as is, i've been happy on kde plasma but will definitely try cosmic just cause i would love the option for tilling builtin when i want it
They typically do the big stuff in the spring and the tweak stuff in the fall
I Love KDE, a was a windows user up until less than a year ago and It has been amazing I actually dread using windows when I have to l, and that is only for VR not often, KDE is so smooth and customizable I have it looking like an XP desktop sometimes or sometimes I have it look newer than windows 11, wobbly window effects, custom cursor everything just works, k runner has changed the way I use a pc
"It will keep nagging you [to upgrade the release] though." Sometimes I think the best kept secret of Linux is that the best desktop distro would be a yearly Fedora clone that's simply that one release behind with a few setup options for desktop hardening. SUSE Slowroll is the next best thing, but it's still Alpha. (I admit I ignore Canonical completely.)
Yep, then the driver issue, or kernel issues start occuring, then its like "oh shit". *loads up google and types how to fix nvidia driver issue* or that noveua crap can't spell it.
I'm upgrading an older desktop to have 16gb ram for use with Fedora Kinoite. With 20-30 tabs in a browser 6 gb is used up pretty quickly.
My "recommended" ram is 16gb. Memory is cheap.
A video of you detailing features or parts that would improve Fedora further, would be fun to be watch.
NVIDIA driver issues on gnome and KDE, need to download maximize and minimize buttons to minimize things, bugs just the usual. Oh and you can watch porn more privately now which is good step up in the right direction.
Hi DJ!
Do you use BTRFS on your main systems?
He mentioned in his recent AMA stream that's he's been moving more and more machines over to BTRFS lately due to improvements to the filesystem, particularly speed
Upgrade to it a few days ago. Worked out fine, but it took some time.Runs with KDE Plasma on my box.
I am also using KDE Plasma on my laptop, I didnt install it right away, did it over the weekend and so far no issues
After months of hopping I finally settled on Fedora KDE
You gonna regret it soon. :)
@@AkameGaKill194 why?
@@sher1x165 Already said why? you want me to put why on the why? :D
xbox controller on kernel 6.12 work?
If they switched out the partition tool from anaconda it would be fantastic. I deleted the usb drive's partition again. Switching to a tty, next time and using fdisk or cfdisk instead.
Whch one do you mean they give you two choices during the install, well actually 3
Excellent Thanks!!
Oh yeah Redhat: Instrumenting the Interstellar Future !!! Thanks Arturia / #cosmic
Anytime glad to do these
Great Video, Thanx! But what is the difference between choosing Workstation + Cosmic Software on the right or choosing Cosmic DE on the left?
Choosing the Left Cosmic you get Cosmic + Supplemental Tools for Cosmic, choosing the right you decide if you want the supplemental tools or not
Could you tell us about build systems and their relationship to operating systems?
I'm a long time KDE fan but I'm *really* interested in COSMIC. (by the way, I don't use Fedora)
KDE is great but I think Cosmic is in my future
Hey, I'd LOVE to hear your ramblings on kernel 6-12 vs the legacy RT-patched kernels which are for example currently available in Debian. Will there be any need for separate availability of RT patched kernels in the future?
Perhaps something to think about for a future video, not sure how many people would be interested in this. Think I'll put a community poll up and see
Dont underestimate weak machines! Dual core with 4 Gb Ram is just fine for simple usage scenarios. I test regularly on my 2012 MacbookAir, distros with LXQT use less than 1 Gb Ram when idle. I write letters and do light internet researches on it without issues (since i love that machine).
the linux world would be a better place if fedora was the distro that first came to mind for new users instead of ubuntu
Fedora is not the best distro to start with Linux, I would say. I usually install Mint to newcomers.
Haven't turned my laptop on for a while, upgrade time when I get home I guess.
You confused me a bit with the title, cuase Cosmic is Systems 76 and Fedora is another distro xD
While true Cosmic is developed by System76, it is not a distro, it is a Desktop Environment, so yeah it works on Fedora as well. Hope that helps untangle the title for you.
I thought the same)))
Everytime I login it errors out and I get tty2 and have to restart lightdm, any fixes?
Would have to check the logs to see what's blowing up during the load in
Fedora is a good distro, I switch to newer released about 5th or so. Flathub will keep updating for several years. I say the new Fedora take takes a cpu with 20+mb of cache, w 4 cores assigned, 8gb+ ram assigned, use it with a 4+gb gpu is a good base. When compared doing the same thing on windows it uses half the resources needed and does it faster and of course without the adds distracting you. Linux is in the last few years has taken off massively form .001of a percent to 5%+ in recent years. Importantly its does not rely on a activation server, you can easily move your os and data to a new machine at anytime and to another type of cpu too.
I noticed Cosmic prefers a GPU as well, and completely agree with you and the best thing of all, you can install a single version of linux on as many computers as you like all for the low low price of $0.00
Spaceballs: The Distro - The quest for IBM shareholder value
I still get surprised by this sentiment that many Linux veterans seem to have. "It's not something you'd want to use as a daily drive, but it's always fun to play with". If I'm installing an OS it's because I have work to do and the previous install was somehow a burden - It's wild to me. I think there are so many distros, because - at least in part, people think it's fun to distro.
well you do you and I'll do me
and this is why people use archlinux is just a hobby for them. Main reason I would never use it. I want an OS to get straight to work so I use ubuntu based distros.
I'm happy with it too, great distro, NVIDIA driver issues on gnome and KDE, need to download maximize and minimize buttons to minimize things, bugs just the usual. Oh and you can watch porn more privately now which is good step up in the right direction. Way better than Ubuntu LTS which has the option to upgrade to pro for free, which enables you to have security updates automatically, with real time performance, pre shipped with NVIDIA drivers and automatically downloads drivers based on the GPU you have, doesn't require you to do much research, very user friendly. Runs very smoothly and looks and feels like it can compete with windows. Definitely beginner friendly. Oh and has the maximize and minimize buttons by default. But who wants that!
Phosh is a mobile DE
CPU performance is less interesting to me these days. The metric to watch is power consumption which talks to battery life on a full charge.
That's where ARM and Qualcomm are ahead of good ole Intel/AMD.
Oh sure I've seen people on YT try and do that, I've only seen one get close to doing it right, the rest have no idea what they are doing. In my experience that takes some very specialized (read very expensive) lab instruments to do the job properly. If I was making chips and or motherboards and could afford such machines, I wouldnt be doing a YT channel that's for sure. So probably not going to see that here unless the price for the equipment comes down, and so far it hasn't.
It's Kinoite not kinolite
Phosh is for mobile. Never heard of it.
Thank you Johanb and Great to see you again!
Do I get the impression that Qualcomm's Elite support is lagging? It feels as if they've lost confidence in their own product.
Or perhaps its the legal struggle between Qualcomm and ARM
@@CyberGizmo Could be. Either way, it’s noticeable.
I have Ubuntu installed. I have my home directory on a separate hard drive, I tried to replace Ubuntu with Fedora. Unfortunately ,I was not able to get Fedora to properly recognize my preexisting home partition,. Has anyone been able to get this done successfully? I have also tried the new Fedora 42 installer. but still No luck, Has anyone had success doing this ?---- Well after trying again I figured it out. I needed to specify the location for /home rather than just /
It's a janky toy.
Dude fedora 41 workstation borked my dell. No thanks. I’d happily pay for a lts version of fedora.
How about RHEL? That's pretty much LTS Fedora, these days it's free for personal use on up to 16 machines if that's of any interest to you
Still sucks on my pc with nvidia
Nvidia runs best on Windows and AMD runs best on Linux!
Cosmic kinda sucks. Too buggy
It's in alpha, blockhead.
I hate Linux as a desktop, I cannot stand it but windows 11 is forcing me to move, telementry is unstoppable now and the spying was already out of control, ive tried Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Xbuntu, Kubuntu, Debian, OpenSuse, POP!_OS, Alma Linux I mean is there ONE linux distro that has a desktop that just works good with decent scaling etc I mean its bad, linux desktop is for masochist
Funny, after one year with Fedora and Gnome I have the same feelings with the Windows Desktop and Workflow... Sooo old school...
Surely, it is the Windows desktop experience that is lacking. Linux has some fantastic desktop environments
You have to be more specific. Chances are you can tweak things to your liking.
You have 12 different Desktop Environments to choose from on Linux and if that doesn't work you could roll your own using Window Managers there's almost and here is a list of those: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_window_managers. And here is a list of Wayland WMs: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_display_servers#Wayland. You can also check out reddit r/unixporn, its not porn, its people showing off what they did with their window managers. .Edit: Yeah the art of customizing Linux WIndow Managers is called "ricing". I am old school I prefer the term modding
@@Bjerrk kde is better than w11