I really enjoy watching DJ Ware. He is old-fashioned and he can still deliver a high quality video, and is always to the point. I absolutely love DJ Ware.
I like Linux Mint LMDE. Because I don’t like cannonical and it’s unpredictabality. It’s also cool because it’s simple to change debian stable to debian testing. So you have an rolling release mint. I think Mint has one of the best optimized and desktop user oriented distro with the highly optimized cinamon desktop. My only concern is the relative old base with Ubuntus LTS Versions. But with Debian testing it’s much more on the edge.
Debian has been talking internally about shortening their release cycle time, I think they realize that folks want more recent package versions. Not sure what they will do, but its good to hear them talking about it
LMDE does have a 32bit ISO offered on the website. The option to pick the 64 or 32 bit ISO is on the same page where the website has you pick a mirror to download from.
the devs over at mint should just outright ditch the ubuntu base; there is a reason LMDE exists since they themselves are not liking where the direction ubuntu is going. LMDE would benefit greatly if that was the default of mint as debian as its base.
Like others, I also like this version of Mint. For me at least, Canonical is going far towards trying to be Microsoft or Apple, i.e. Corporate, especially having Snaps as a wallled garden. Not for me anyway. Good video as always.
I'm a long-time user of Linux Mint, but to this day I don't know if I would have many changes in my day-to-day use if I switched to LMDE. I use my PC it for working with text and playing games and I usually install a newer kernel with the Mainline Kernels (Ubuntu tool). I was really interested in switching after the release of Debian 12. Has anyone made this change and had any difficulties?
So just to let you know, Debian 12 is first of all a great stable release, people usually get real excited about it when a new version drops. Being that Debian is stable that means the version number of packages will not change over the life of the release (they do security patches). So people lose enthusiasm for Debian as it gets closer and closer to its next release cycle (usually 2 years). Ubuntu on the other hand will update about every 6 months, and ubuntu also has a long term release version which they update every 2 years. As for difficulties, with longer term releases if you replace hardware between releases you may find issues with newer devices not working, because the support isn't included in the older versions.
only difference I can see is its a bit of a pain on the Debian version if you want to use the very latest kernel , such as the one I use (6.5.1) on the ubuntu version. On the ubuntu version , its easy even for a newby to install the latest one.
The only reason why I would prefer LMDE over Debian Cinnamon ist that the LMDE Installer gives you the necessary Subvolumes on btrfs out of the box to use Timeshift for Snapshots
Relative differences by setting either the fastest or slowest to 1 would be better for visual comparison than absolute numbers. Could also be shown in percents. You could also compare everything to Fedora, for example.
Well...yes and no...There are the expensive benchmarks that are used by the chip makers and super computer people and then there are us little guys who study and cobble them together.
Many thanks for replying ! I visited the site, I was unable to find such compiled (similar to yours) tests, it seems you selected the most interesting important practical ones, regarding that@@CyberGizmo yes, maybe it does not matter much if common folks do the test or the chipmakers, maybe as long as they are similar, also I would be interested in knowing if there is a link/guide to use the site and configure the tests to be displayed. Many thanks for replying !
@@RK-kn1ud Secure boot uses a private/public key pair of encryption keys (that is what makes it "secure") each os that wants to use it has to have a unique key generated especially for them, and Microsoft manages that process for the moment.
Why not use phoronix to benchmark? And compare to Debian default, Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSuse and maybe another few distro's, like Mint. Debian12 Bullseye + LMDE6 + Mate and just add the few well-known repo's, like from Solus, Brunsenlabs and a Manjaro like media/gaming config👍 Mate-tweaks, with Fedora and Opensuse panels, with xstart and looking into wayland configs..
I'm going to put out a separate video on that next week, I was going to include it in this video, but frankly it made the video way too long, so will break it up watch for it
hey yall, Ive been on windows forever, currently on 10 and I do not want to upgrade any further beyond 10. I want to finally make the switch to Linux. I do gaming (Steam games) and development (RoR, JS, C#). Im having a hard time finding distros. Suggestions? I have a desktop running an AMD Ryzen 5950X and an RTX 4090 from Nvidia, 32GB RAM, a few SSDs and 1 generic Hard drive where I store games/files which are NTFS format. My C Drive is just windows and some apps which I will probably put Linux on, is this feasible without having to wipe my other drives?
I made the jump from win10 to linux mint a few months ago. When switching I shoved all my files onto an external drive, reformatted all my internal drives with ext4 and shoveled them back on the drives afterwards. Few years back when I was testing linux I did mount NTFS drives and it worked ok but I suggest you reformat if possible. All games I play have native versions or work perfectly with proton (make sure to check protonup-qt for new versions). If you are playing FPS games and require high performance/frames I can also recommend trying out custom kernels like xanmod. Pretty happy so far and will stay with mint
I installed the Nvidia meta package. When I restarted, I only had a TTY. I typed lsmod and saw that it stopped the Nouveau module from loading as it should to prevent clashes, and the Nvidia driver was loaded, but something went wrong. The Debian meta package didn't come with the nice integration with the Cinnamon desktop either. It certainly was not as nice an experience as with vanilla Linux Mint, where I just pressed one click at the welcome screen, restarted, and it was fully working and integrated in the desktop. I'm no Linux expert, though, so I'm sure you would know what to do.@@CyberGizmo
My last attempt to install package edition nvidia drivers from the software center on a fresh install of LMDE6 rendered the OS unbootable. I had to wipe it. I have reinstalled and am looking to try flatpak instead.
@CyberGizmo I actually came back to Linux after almost 20 years. Last time I used Linux it was Mandrake! Remember mandrake? I could not tolerate win11 anymore. Everyirme I try it and it makes me want to throw away the pc. Glad I tried Linux again and things have changed lot from where I left off! I first tried Mint and then I did my usual distro hopping and stumbled upon Manjaro. I didn't even know it was Arch based and back in my days we didn't have Arch linux. Glad I tried it and now I love Arch and Arch based distros. I think users need to be careful with Arch based distros as it has access to AUR and Chaotic AUR. Which is great but tread carefully.
As much as I dislike Ubuntu from an abstract/philosophical standpoint, it's still probably my go-to for one to actually use lol I think it's sort of a "devil-you-know" type of thing
Please, do not promote unnecessary distributions like this one. It quite literally adds nothing to the community apart of additional fracturing and reinventing of the wheel. LMDE solves no problems, adds no features. There is no need for it to exist. Mint on it's own is just a glorified colour theme to Ubuntu, creating a whole set of Linux distributions just to move themes and fonts around or make the menus in a slightly different order is just a meaningless busywork. This is not a step forward. Perpetual mediocrity and wasting of resources is the reason why Linux on desktop is just a joke. My first Linux was a Mandrake in the early 2000'. I remember how it annoyed me, it was so janky, could not run Windows stuff in a meaningful way, performance was bad. Twenty years and hundreds of distros later, it's pretty much the same.
I really like that LMDE exists and it’s supported instead of being a downstream community spin.
I really enjoy watching DJ Ware. He is old-fashioned and he can still deliver a high quality video, and is always to the point. I absolutely love DJ Ware.
I like Linux Mint LMDE. Because I don’t like cannonical and it’s unpredictabality. It’s also cool because it’s simple to change debian stable to debian testing. So you have an rolling release mint. I think Mint has one of the best optimized and desktop user oriented distro with the highly optimized cinamon desktop. My only concern is the relative old base with Ubuntus LTS Versions. But with Debian testing it’s much more on the edge.
Debian has been talking internally about shortening their release cycle time, I think they realize that folks want more recent package versions. Not sure what they will do, but its good to hear them talking about it
LMDE does have a 32bit ISO offered on the website. The option to pick the 64 or 32 bit ISO is on the same page where the website has you pick a mirror to download from.
It wasnt on any of the mirrors in the US I chose, but thanks for the update
@@CyberGizmo It looks like the 32 bit version is now on US mirrors...at least the Clarkson University one I used that is.
the devs over at mint should just outright ditch the ubuntu base; there is a reason LMDE exists since they themselves are not liking where the direction ubuntu is going. LMDE would benefit greatly if that was the default of mint as debian as its base.
The "reason" is that canonical is likely to implement the new "government spying" directives at a later time. ruclips.net/video/DyKkZxyasHE/видео.html
@@jimw7916 bruh...im watching that video RIGHT NOW............spooky!!! O_O
@@breadmoth6443 hahaha good on ya
Agree 100%
I don't use no Ubuntu or any of the other os that are based off of it years ago smh
Like others, I also like this version of Mint. For me at least, Canonical is going far towards trying to be Microsoft or Apple, i.e. Corporate, especially having Snaps as a wallled garden. Not for me anyway. Good video as always.
LMDE 6 does offer 32 bit!
That's odd its not in their download sites...oh my bad, and thanks jimw I stand corrected I see it now...
@@CyberGizmo it is in their download sites
LMDE 6 is still offered in 32bit. When you go to the mirrors to choose one you want to download from, look top left and choose 64bit or 32bit.
I'm a long-time user of Linux Mint, but to this day I don't know if I would have many changes in my day-to-day use if I switched to LMDE. I use my PC it for working with text and playing games and I usually install a newer kernel with the Mainline Kernels (Ubuntu tool).
I was really interested in switching after the release of Debian 12.
Has anyone made this change and had any difficulties?
So just to let you know, Debian 12 is first of all a great stable release, people usually get real excited about it when a new version drops. Being that Debian is stable that means the version number of packages will not change over the life of the release (they do security patches). So people lose enthusiasm for Debian as it gets closer and closer to its next release cycle (usually 2 years). Ubuntu on the other hand will update about every 6 months, and ubuntu also has a long term release version which they update every 2 years. As for difficulties, with longer term releases if you replace hardware between releases you may find issues with newer devices not working, because the support isn't included in the older versions.
only difference I can see is its a bit of a pain on the Debian version if you want to use the very latest kernel , such as the one I use (6.5.1) on the ubuntu version. On the ubuntu version , its easy even for a newby to install the latest one.
@@CyberGizmo Thank you for the clarification! 🤗
Any opinion on Debian v12 Cinnamon flavor/edition vs LMDE v6? What exactly does Mint add/differentiate here?
The Mint tools, themes, configs etc.
The only reason why I would prefer LMDE over Debian Cinnamon ist that the LMDE Installer gives you the necessary Subvolumes on btrfs out of the box to use Timeshift for Snapshots
Thank for another great video sir.
Relative differences by setting either the fastest or slowest to 1 would be better for visual comparison than absolute numbers. Could also be shown in percents. You could also compare everything to Fedora, for example.
Unfortunately, you dont have that kind of control over what phoronix does for the summary mode graphs, it does what it wants...
What keyboard do you use? I'm looking for a new one.
Is there a guide out there to put together those benchmarks ? Awesome video btw, many many thanks !
Well...yes and no...There are the expensive benchmarks that are used by the chip makers and super computer people and then there are us little guys who study and cobble them together.
Many thanks for replying ! I visited the site, I was unable to find such compiled (similar to yours) tests, it seems you selected the most interesting important practical ones, regarding that@@CyberGizmo yes, maybe it does not matter much if common folks do the test or the chipmakers, maybe as long as they are similar, also I would be interested in knowing if there is a link/guide to use the site and configure the tests to be displayed. Many thanks for replying !
Why do we need keys for secure boot from Microsoft? Last time I looked I don't run a Microsoft OS and I don't buy motherboards from Microsoft.
You don't, Linux Mint does
@@CyberGizmoI think what he really meant to ask was why Linux Mint needs them.
Does Secure Boot on Linux offer some great benefit? I would prefer to avoid it whenever possible.@@CyberGizmo
@@RK-kn1ud Secure boot uses a private/public key pair of encryption keys (that is what makes it "secure") each os that wants to use it has to have a unique key generated especially for them, and Microsoft manages that process for the moment.
What is the difference between LMDE and Debian with the Cinammon desktop?
Mint tools
Right the mint tools make it different
Why not use phoronix to benchmark? And compare to Debian default, Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSuse and maybe another few distro's, like Mint.
Debian12 Bullseye + LMDE6 + Mate and just add the few well-known repo's, like from Solus, Brunsenlabs and a Manjaro like media/gaming config👍
Mate-tweaks, with Fedora and Opensuse panels, with xstart and looking into wayland configs..
nice grandpa, talks meaningfully 👍
What's the fix for the home directory ecrypt issue? @10:12
I'm going to put out a separate video on that next week, I was going to include it in this video, but frankly it made the video way too long, so will break it up watch for it
hey yall, Ive been on windows forever, currently on 10 and I do not want to upgrade any further beyond 10. I want to finally make the switch to Linux. I do gaming (Steam games) and development (RoR, JS, C#). Im having a hard time finding distros. Suggestions? I have a desktop running an AMD Ryzen 5950X and an RTX 4090 from Nvidia, 32GB RAM, a few SSDs and 1 generic Hard drive where I store games/files which are NTFS format. My C Drive is just windows and some apps which I will probably put Linux on, is this feasible without having to wipe my other drives?
I made the jump from win10 to linux mint a few months ago. When switching I shoved all my files onto an external drive, reformatted all my internal drives with ext4 and shoveled them back on the drives afterwards. Few years back when I was testing linux I did mount NTFS drives and it worked ok but I suggest you reformat if possible. All games I play have native versions or work perfectly with proton (make sure to check protonup-qt for new versions). If you are playing FPS games and require high performance/frames I can also recommend trying out custom kernels like xanmod. Pretty happy so far and will stay with mint
I liked lmde 6 just know if you need NVIDIA drivers you're in for some pain.
Can't use the debian package?
I installed the Nvidia meta package. When I restarted, I only had a TTY. I typed lsmod and saw that it stopped the Nouveau module from loading as it should to prevent clashes, and the Nvidia driver was loaded, but something went wrong. The Debian meta package didn't come with the nice integration with the Cinnamon desktop either. It certainly was not as nice an experience as with vanilla Linux Mint, where I just pressed one click at the welcome screen, restarted, and it was fully working and integrated in the desktop. I'm no Linux expert, though, so I'm sure you would know what to do.@@CyberGizmo
My last attempt to install package edition nvidia drivers from the software center on a fresh install of LMDE6 rendered the OS unbootable. I had to wipe it. I have reinstalled and am looking to try flatpak instead.
Tbh we only need lmde! The devs shouldnt waste time on a ubuntu commercial trash!
Where can we get free swap space in the cloud?
Voted funniest comment.
They all use the same kernel....should be the same, right?
For those benchmarks yep
Manjaro is super snappy OS
Yeah it is, but everytime I have used it for any length of time it self destructs, hope its better than the last time I tried it (2 years ago)
@CyberGizmo I actually came back to Linux after almost 20 years. Last time I used Linux it was Mandrake! Remember mandrake?
I could not tolerate win11 anymore.
Everyirme I try it and it makes me want to throw away the pc.
Glad I tried Linux again and things have changed lot from where I left off! I first tried Mint and then I did my usual distro hopping and stumbled upon Manjaro. I didn't even know it was Arch based and back in my days we didn't have Arch linux. Glad I tried it and now I love Arch and Arch based distros.
I think users need to be careful with Arch based distros as it has access to AUR and Chaotic AUR. Which is great but tread carefully.
@@SouthFacedWindows Yes I do remember Mandrake its long gone but there are forks of it which are actively maintained today, yeah I use Arch as well
As much as I dislike Ubuntu from an abstract/philosophical standpoint, it's still probably my go-to for one to actually use lol
I think it's sort of a "devil-you-know" type of thing
haha oh yeah I understand
👍DJ!
video is better at 1.25 speed
Please, do not promote unnecessary distributions like this one.
It quite literally adds nothing to the community apart of additional fracturing and reinventing of the wheel. LMDE solves no problems, adds no features. There is no need for it to exist. Mint on it's own is just a glorified colour theme to Ubuntu, creating a whole set of Linux distributions just to move themes and fonts around or make the menus in a slightly different order is just a meaningless busywork.
This is not a step forward. Perpetual mediocrity and wasting of resources is the reason why Linux on desktop is just a joke. My first Linux was a Mandrake in the early 2000'. I remember how it annoyed me, it was so janky, could not run Windows stuff in a meaningful way, performance was bad.
Twenty years and hundreds of distros later, it's pretty much the same.
Another pretty much pointless distro.
Another great distro with Debian 12 backing up from behind and Cinnamon, the most productive desktop environment
@@CaptainDangeax Just watering stuff down.
@@NeuroScientician dynamite fishing. I pity your empty life
Another pretty much pointless comment.
@@colinstu Are you reoffering to yourself? What a butt hurt :D