Why the Olympic monobob event is only for women

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  • Опубликовано: 8 фев 2022
  • What the monobob does and doesn't do for gender equality
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    Bobsledding (or bobsleighing) is one of the oldest Olympic sports, dating back to the very first Winter Games in 1924. Back then, women were barred from competing in nearly every event except figure skating. Of the 250 athletes that arrived for the first Winter Olympics, only 11 were women.
    Times have changed, of course. The Winter Olympics in Beijing is considered the most sex-balanced to date, with female athletes making up 45 percent of the roster. But sexist regulations and outdated “science” still creep in. Who could forget the 2021 Summer Olympics, the questionable testosterone tests that barred female sprinters from competing in an event? As recently as 2008, the Winter Olympics was riddled with controversy over gender inclusion issues; female aerial skiers sued the Vancouver Organizing Committee over alleged discrimination. In 2005, the president of the International Ski Federation stated that ski jumping "seems not to be appropriate for ladies from a medical point of view."
    Uteruses, am I right?
    As for bobsledding, it wasn’t until 2002 that female athletes were invited to participate in the games, but only in a single event - the two-women bob. Since 1932, men have had two events (the two-men and four-men bob). In 2022, a new all-women bobsledding event was introduced: the monobob, a single-person sled, but is it actually leveling the playing field? Maybe, but not entirely in the way you might think.
    To read more about the rules and regulations and history of bobsledding check out these links from the IBSF: www.ibsf.org/images/federatio...
    www.ibsf.org/en/our-sports/bo...
    I also loved this graphic that shows how different all the tracks are: www.ibsf.org/en/tracks
    The Lake Placid Museum is a great place to read about more specific history: www.lakeplacidnews.com/news/l...
    *A previous version of this description mentioned the Norwegian handball team being fined at the 2021 Olympics for refusing to wear Bikini's - this was actually at the Euro 2021 tournament*
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  • @Vox
    @Vox  2 года назад +737

    This video is focused on Olympic bobsledding, but that’s definitely not the only time bobsled athletes compete.
    In other events, women can (and do!) compete in 4-person sleds. In 2014, the International Bobsleigh and Skeleton Federation even ruled that the four-person bob is gender-neutral. That year, Elana piloted a 4-person sled with 3 men behind her. Thanks for watching! -Kim

    • @bhakti235
      @bhakti235 2 года назад +1

      Great job, Ms. Mas

    • @K1ddkanuck
      @K1ddkanuck 2 года назад +25

      Wait, so one thing this doesn't explain is, why aren't men allowed to monobob too? Obviously it would be best if all three types were open to both genders. But wouldn't allowing men to compete in monobob also further open up competition from countries that can't afford 2 and 4 man sleds?

    • @nbibby
      @nbibby 2 года назад

      Thank you 🙏🏽

    • @johnnychang4233
      @johnnychang4233 2 года назад +4

      Are monobob inherently more safer than skeleton due to the extra body coverage of the pilot? Also why if women can compete in skeleton which imply more risk then they are banned from regular team bobsleigh in the Olympics?

    • @new_delhi
      @new_delhi 2 года назад +5

      So, why aren't both genders allowed to do the monobob?

  • @kanderson5555
    @kanderson5555 2 года назад +1675

    What hasn't been made clear is the the monobob was introduced *instead* of the 4-woman bobsleigh because:
    - Cheaper to field a competitor therefore increasing accessibility to poorer Olympic committees
    - this makes it equal to the Bobsleigh World Cup which also has a women's only monobob and no 4-women bobsleigh event
    (Bobsleigh World Cup is run by the ISBF- who regulate professional bobsleigh and skeleton)
    - it was introduced at the 2016 Youth Winter Olympics and was popular (appeal to youth was a criteria)
    It ended up being only for women because they didn't abandon the 4-man bobsleigh, therefore although not equal in competitors, is now equal in sleigh events.

    • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346
      @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346 2 года назад +240

      Thank your for bringing clarity into this.
      You explained more in one comment then they could in the entire video with a whole team of people working on it. That's because they had to fit their whole agenda into the video and you just had to fit truth into your comment.

    • @burnttoastbrain
      @burnttoastbrain 2 года назад +45

      There’s no reason why they can’t offer BOTH monosled and 4 person sled. Then they can limit the amount money spent on building a sled to ensure money some doesn’t win. Both things formula 1 and nascar does because they have the same issue

    • @Avantime
      @Avantime 2 года назад +62

      @@burnttoastbrain It's not just the sled, the bobsledders must travel around the world for the international events in order to be competitive, and with 4 men + team + sled the travel costs goes through the roof. The Olympics will keep offering the 4 men sled event because of tradition but even with the sled costs down, the same few nations will keep winning the events because only they can afford to not just send one, but multiple 4-men teams to events throughout the year. And the Alpine nations have the advantage because most of the top tier tracks are located in Europe, so they can simply drive.

    • @Kimjongilmao
      @Kimjongilmao 2 года назад +30

      @@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346 what are you talking about? Truthfully, I don’t understand what agenda you’re saying is being pushed here. Angle? Sure. AGENDA? Chill out

    • @rightisright2556
      @rightisright2556 2 года назад +33

      @@Kimjongilmao I think you have to chill a little. Angle is when you are using a specific perspective or framework to approach a topic and I don't think it is that different to having an agenda which is having a specific goal in mind when producing such video. Surely everyone has an agenda... it's impossible not to have some kind of purpose.

  • @Togher01
    @Togher01 2 года назад +616

    I did bobsleigh once... I crash on my first got at 100km/hr. It was a terrifying experience being dragged along the ice.
    After that, I swore I never do it again. That lasted 10 minutes and give it one more try. Couldn't let it beat me.

    • @jakehix8132
      @jakehix8132 2 года назад +30

      Can I have Bob Sleigh's number?

    • @burakkarakus5868
      @burakkarakus5868 2 года назад +1

      @@roenie right after that he started writing bobsleigh

    • @calebharders3347
      @calebharders3347 2 года назад +5

      So you did bobsleigh twice

    • @jponz85
      @jponz85 2 года назад

      Bob Sleigh belongs to the streetz

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 года назад

      @@jakehix8132 I think his address is at the North Pole.

  • @lucasmunro256
    @lucasmunro256 2 года назад +824

    I don't think that your video answers the question posed in the title. You talk about the history of bobsled, and how women have been excluded from it. Don't get me wrong, the bits about monobob reducing the wall of entry to new athletes are very interesting, but irrelevant the the question posed in the title

    • @callummcausland3904
      @callummcausland3904 2 года назад +76

      Yeh it's quite a sour technique

    • @varveyok533
      @varveyok533 2 года назад +77

      Vox gonna vox.

    • @farisdaschuzz8834
      @farisdaschuzz8834 2 года назад +40

      For sure I was like when the question gonna be amswered? Turns out its not

    • @BooM-8
      @BooM-8 2 года назад +5

      Was just about to say the same thing 🤷‍♂️

    • @solkvist8668
      @solkvist8668 2 года назад +45

      It sounded like the answer was right at the end. Mens quad bobsled is already so prohibitively expensive that a vast majority of countries can’t afford to compete, let alone the less popular women’s 4 quad bobsled. The result is those 5 or so countries that even bother to participate would be the only ones competing in the first place, making for a very boring sport.
      The monobob is basically a more universal entry point to the sport that’s been opened up to women. Admittedly I’m not sure why men don’t also have the sport but I’d imagine both end up with it in time.

  • @AbsaluteWreckage
    @AbsaluteWreckage 2 года назад +204

    i love how this video doesnt answer the title at all

    • @ARONandCo
      @ARONandCo 2 года назад +6

      They always get me with these titles

    • @krimmy8459
      @krimmy8459 2 года назад +5

      You weren't listening then.

    • @oo0Spyder0oo
      @oo0Spyder0oo 2 года назад +10

      @@krimmy8459 so what’s the answer?

    • @mammajamma4397
      @mammajamma4397 2 года назад

      AT. ALL.

    • @ryansantiago941
      @ryansantiago941 3 месяца назад

      Becoming a trend for VOX videos

  • @jlo9993
    @jlo9993 2 года назад +105

    What a confusing video. It was nice, and I enjoyed learning about bobsledding, but this didn't really tell me why the monobob event was just for women. It just told me that it was, and then talked about every other aspect of the bobbing events. I mean, I know now that bobsleds can go up to 150km/h, but I don't know why women are the only ones who can do monobobbing.
    All you guys explained was that, women won and then if they did it again their uteruses would fall out. And that was just a passing comment.

    • @sarahkatie7497
      @sarahkatie7497 2 года назад +23

      When you forget the thesis while writing the paper

    • @ahastar1141
      @ahastar1141 2 года назад +4

      basically they said its to give women an extra chance to medal that the men dont have to try and even the playing field out more for womens medal chances

  • @superpowerdragon
    @superpowerdragon 2 года назад +465

    i would like to know how many people play this sport, as far as i know there are only 17 tracks in the whole world (including the new one in Beijing 2022), adding the cost and time it requires, it seems that there aren't many people that can play this professionally.

    • @dougerrohmer
      @dougerrohmer 2 года назад +31

      There are only 5 speed skating rinks in North America. Lots of sports with tiny opportunity out there.

    • @imurcat7653
      @imurcat7653 2 года назад +36

      @@dougerrohmer yeah but you can speed skate on any hockey rink with the right colour dots on the ice. I’ve been speedskating since I was 6

    • @dougerrohmer
      @dougerrohmer 2 года назад +15

      @@imurcat7653 Skating fast isn't the same as speed skating, and more pertinently training for Olympic speed skating. It's not about skating in circles, but the correct lines and stuff. You need the proper rink for that.

    • @Blckjack18
      @Blckjack18 2 года назад +10

      16, one in Germany got destroyed by a natural disaster…

    • @lindseykent8577
      @lindseykent8577 2 года назад +15

      @@dougerrohmer Short track can be done on any hockey rink. It's better on Olympic-sized ice but not necessary. Many long-track speed skaters (in Canada anyway) have done training in some capacity on the short track ice. Also, outdoor long track ovals are a thing.

  • @aident0642
    @aident0642 2 года назад +1112

    I’m surprised we didn’t get a 4 and 2 mixed. Because we have mixed everything else. Could have been interesting. Also maybe mono men but obviously if they could work out how to have an equal amount of sports.

    • @rasulpl
      @rasulpl 2 года назад +53

      Not sure if it would work - i think mixed teams would be 100% men. You get more push power at start, and later you get more weight going downhill - both giving you more speed.,

    • @aident0642
      @aident0642 2 года назад +166

      @@rasulpl nah if they did mixed but it had to be half and half like all the other mixed Olympic sports.

    • @ZacDonald
      @ZacDonald 2 года назад +81

      @@rasulpl Mixed Olympics events either have a set requirement or a set minimum for number of men and/or women on teams.

    • @wojciechsuwinski8831
      @wojciechsuwinski8831 2 года назад +28

      I think the main problem with introducing mixed bobsledding is that this is a team sport, not a group of individual performers (so more like basketball then ski jumping), which translates to having different roles (e.g. pilot has a vastly different role that the rest), which would lead to probably man always pushing and women piloting.

    • @DaveWraptastic
      @DaveWraptastic 2 года назад +8

      mixed everything else? Uhm, the vast majority of sports are not mixed at all. That is very much the exception.

  • @D.Jay.
    @D.Jay. 2 года назад +573

    All sexs should be able to do Mono, Duo, and Quad. All countries should use the same sleds. Boom. Done.

    • @Gurumeierhans
      @Gurumeierhans 2 года назад +56

      Yeah, i dont know why not both sexes have the same categories for the events

    • @Yeah.316
      @Yeah.316 2 года назад +40

      @@Gurumeierhans well biologically men are stronger and it gives slight edege to all men team may be if they make 2 men and 2 women mandatory for a 4 team will balance it

    • @tomlam8684
      @tomlam8684 2 года назад +3

      @@Gurumeierhans Yeah, just like rhymthic gymnastics.

    • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346
      @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346 2 года назад

      @@julm7744 that's true.

    • @subotaiKhan
      @subotaiKhan 2 года назад +2

      @@julm7744 in the Olympics?

  • @apoema42
    @apoema42 2 года назад +116

    To be honest the monobob sounds as the more interesting sport.

    • @C4chorroSa1sicha
      @C4chorroSa1sicha 2 года назад +21

      Yeah, the olympics are supposed to be about who is the best athlete, not who has the most money.

    • @AC-mp7cx
      @AC-mp7cx 2 года назад +1

      uhhhhh no

    • @juzloopz24
      @juzloopz24 2 года назад +2

      It is lol

    • @blitzblix9455
      @blitzblix9455 2 года назад

      youre just coping
      its really not that different

    • @apoema42
      @apoema42 2 года назад +3

      @@blitzblix9455 I don't have anything to cope for. All these sports are quite wacky but 4 people pushing a sled is the wackiest.

  • @RobertNowland
    @RobertNowland 2 года назад +70

    ‘Monobob’ is now the coolest sounding Olympic sport no question

    • @DanceySteveYNWA
      @DanceySteveYNWA 2 года назад +3

      Aka the Single-Roberto

    • @WormholeJim
      @WormholeJim 2 года назад +1

      The Louis Lonesome

    • @blitzblix9455
      @blitzblix9455 2 года назад +1

      what about
      skeleton
      pretty badass name if you ask me
      cross country sounds a bit nice too,
      anyways...
      nope

  • @misstekhead
    @misstekhead 2 года назад +76

    In general the Winter Olympics comes off as primarily made up of sports for the rich. Hence why it doesn’t nearly get the interest or watch ratings of the Summer Olympics. In general the Winter Olympics come off as unobtainable for most people.

    • @Dan007UT
      @Dan007UT 2 года назад +5

      I dont have a huge liking of any sport really but I think its way more fun to watch the winter olympics than the summer. my 0.02 lol

    • @soledieairvideos5974
      @soledieairvideos5974 2 года назад +9

      Yeah that’s true and the viewership is probably lower because there is a lot of countries who either don’t complete in the winter ones or only have 1-3 athletes representing the country. I do think though that the Winter Olympics are in someways more fun to watch though because so many sports operate at such high speeds.

  • @TheWoblinGoblin
    @TheWoblinGoblin 2 года назад +191

    Austrian man here. We should make those events as open as possible. I don't understand why they wouldn't have 4 women sleds and mens' monobob, even if the field would be small at least in the beginning. The courses are ridiculously involved and expensive to build and we should get every possible use out of them. On the issue of finances. Well, tbh. coming from a country that is outfinnced in Summer sports by every other medium to large country, look, US, that's just top sport events right now. Your athletics and swimming programmes have the same "advantage" over us others . Yes we have a ridiculous amount of money, sponsoring etc pumped into alpine skiing, ski jump and so on, but yeah, that's they way to be competitive at that level. In the US it really differs not all that much, success breeds popularity for a sport, but there is an upfront investment. I have the utmost respect for alpine skiers from the US. They don't have the practically ridiculous support system we have here but at the games they are always at their best and are competitive. It is so awesome to see such dedicated athletes and they really deserve more attention, for being the underdogs against juggernauts and still coming out on top.

    • @daveclosinger6697
      @daveclosinger6697 2 года назад +12

      Have you watched bobsleigh, especially women's bobsleigh? There would be casualties, judging by how they drive monos and 2man bobs.

    • @utetopia1620
      @utetopia1620 2 года назад +20

      Didn't you watch the video? Their uterus would fall out... or something..

    • @ImCoolLikeThat
      @ImCoolLikeThat 2 года назад +3

      If I remember correctly, the Olympic committee limits the total number of competitions. That's why they were going to eliminate wrestling from summer, in order to make room for competitions with higher viewership.

    • @Pfooh
      @Pfooh 2 года назад +2

      Problem is that it would skew trhe playing field even more. Countries with big budgets would copy over their designs from 4-man to 4-women, grab another 4 medals and get more funding next round. For countries not in the top, it would make it even harder to enter.

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 2 года назад

      @@ImCoolLikeThat Also realised how many sports there're that feature not in Olympics but in other competitions e.g. Commonwealth, Asian (ASIAD), Southeast Asian (SEA) Games e.g. bowling, snooker, squash, _sepak takraw_ (volleyball but you bicycle-kick the ball over the net instead), _chinlong_ & other countries' martial arts e.g. _wushu, kabaadi, pencak silat_

  • @justin.booth.
    @justin.booth. 2 года назад +87

    But they didn't explain why they only added monobob for women? It seems to me it would make since to add it for both so that countries who can't afford the 4 person or two person bobsled could at least send one person. What's the advantage in limiting it to women? And for that matter why didn't they just add 4 person women's bobsled or mixed? Honestly I just have more questions now lol

    •  2 года назад +13

      100% agreed! I was yelling for them to EXPLAIN PLS!

    • @galador8089
      @galador8089 2 года назад +2

      there arent enough women to justify a four man event, you would have like 3 teams

    • @aesyamazeli8804
      @aesyamazeli8804 2 года назад +1

      @@galador8089 if there's not enough women but enough men then there's nothing wrong with monobob for men?

    • @ahastar1141
      @ahastar1141 2 года назад +5

      They said it at the very end. The reason its all women is to give women another chance at medaling. Since the men get the 2 and 4 man and women previously only had the 2, 6 men could medal but only 2 men could. Adding mono for women only is essentially giving them an extra chance to earn a medal that men cannot to try and even the playing field. They also noted that if they did women's 4, only the same 4-5 countries could afford to compete.

  • @jaysekhon8014
    @jaysekhon8014 2 года назад +21

    Being a brakeman in a sled accident is a guaranteed spine snapper lol

  • @gingeral253
    @gingeral253 2 года назад +80

    Would it be difficult to add a men’s mono and a women’s four man? I feel like the men’s mono could also let less financially supported teams to get a chance.

    • @blitzblix9455
      @blitzblix9455 2 года назад +12

      yeah there are probably a lot of men who want to do monobob bcs of the financials as you stated

    • @TheMrPeteChannel
      @TheMrPeteChannel 2 года назад +7

      The reason there's still no 4 woman bob is because there's not enough women in the sport.

    • @specialopsdave
      @specialopsdave 2 года назад +12

      @@TheMrPeteChannel The reason why not many women are in the sport is because there is no 4-woman bobsled event. It's a vicious cycle which can be broken relatively easily by just adding it and finding 4 competitors, next time will be easier

    • @marguskiis7711
      @marguskiis7711 2 года назад +1

      @@TheMrPeteChannel No way. If there are 4women bobsled events the existing 4men teams just would find easily the good females to participate. A good pilot, and three powerful runners from track field or ski/skate world and thats it. No problem at all. The system now is idiotic and massively sexist.

    • @rushrush1209
      @rushrush1209 2 года назад +1

      At the Olympics, it would be hard unless you have a separate track for luge and skeleton vs bobsled. It seems that every day they have either luge, skeleton or bobsled on the track in the Olympics. Very hard to add more events and get all the races done in time.

  • @SolinoOruki
    @SolinoOruki 2 года назад +22

    Wait did she actually answer the title question?

  • @walterwhite6896
    @walterwhite6896 2 года назад +3

    The engineer should get a metal too

  • @bazzle_brush
    @bazzle_brush 2 года назад +43

    250k for a bob sled. No one told the Jamaican bobsled team 😆

    • @luca7069
      @luca7069 2 года назад +2

      Very few units produced each year, high tech materials, super stringent requirements in terms of performance and safety.
      Not really hard to understand why they're so expensive.

    • @BleachFan2588
      @BleachFan2588 2 года назад +1

      @@luca7069 as explained, monobob sleds only cost 15.000. Sure, bigger is more expensive, but at most it'd be 25.000. The rest of the expense is research, which wouldn't be needed if all sleds were made equal like in most sports.

  • @anazhelyazkova5687
    @anazhelyazkova5687 2 года назад +313

    There's a similarly interesting story in the history of ski jumps - it's worth the research for a VOX video, especially with the latest developments over ski jumpers' disqualifications due to their "inappropriate" suits :)

    • @gmdille
      @gmdille 2 года назад +14

      They literally did an episode on it a few days ago lol

    • @joking2052
      @joking2052 2 года назад +24

      @@gmdille Not on the sexism

    • @vinnieg6161
      @vinnieg6161 2 года назад +4

      yes also a very important issue..

    • @blitzblix9455
      @blitzblix9455 2 года назад

      @@enttae7492 not really

    • @blitzblix9455
      @blitzblix9455 2 года назад +2

      @@enttae7492 FIS says the suits that violated rules were produced exclusively for the Olympics and and were not tested in advance, an opportunity that just a few nations took advantage of before arriving in Beijing.
      -dailymailuk

  • @dennisverweij4817
    @dennisverweij4817 2 года назад +100

    that argument that women have half a chance of winning a medal is such a weird one. It is like saying that the 100m dash has a 1/4 chance of winning a medal compared to the 4x100m relay, or 1/22 chance compared to football (soccer) at the Olympics. In the end, all the literal medals count as one in the medal charts, and they won it as a team, not as individuals.

    • @anonymous-eg4tj
      @anonymous-eg4tj 2 года назад +2

      I think it makes sense. Sure, it ends up being equal in the medal tally, but in practical terms it's still unequal for the actual athletes. Having half as many spots for women to compete in Bobsledding means half as many women get a chance to participate in the olympics, half as many women will receive the sponsorship offers that kind of exposure attracts, and half as many women will get paid a medal bonus/salary by their home country (assuming said country pays a salary/medal bonus). Overall it just further contributes to the gap between men and women in sport, which doesn't really seem in line with the ethos the olympics purports to uphold.

    • @milanmach2379
      @milanmach2379 2 года назад +2

      You're looking at it from the country perspective, they used the competitor perspective. The 4th best US sprinter doesn't even get to participate in the individual 100m Olympic event, whereas they get to do that in the relay. The more members a team sport has, the more competitors can participate from a single country in an Olympic event.

    • @Chris-rg6nm
      @Chris-rg6nm 2 года назад

      @@anonymous-eg4tj Why do an equal number of women and men need to be in the Olympics?

  • @DatTran
    @DatTran 2 года назад +10

    I haven't seen any answer for the question in the title.

  • @blitz7765
    @blitz7765 2 года назад +32

    Great video, just one question.
    Why is the Olympic monobob sport is only for women?

    • @BillC-64
      @BillC-64 2 года назад

      That's easy. According to today's standard that everything must to equal no matter if it made any sense, it's given to women in their attempt to equal the chances to men. If they also gave it men, then the women would complain that it is not equal, hence back to square one. Having a one women sled is cheaper so more countries can compete and that's important when introducing a new version of the sport. If they made it a 4 "man" sled, which requires more money and more women they would not have enough competition.

    • @blitz7765
      @blitz7765 2 года назад

      @@BillC-64 good point. You could also, you know, have all genders compete in all 3 events.

    • @BillC-64
      @BillC-64 2 года назад +1

      @@blitz7765 In time, you will see that. This is a spot gap "fix". Remember that there very few tracks (16) around the entire world that you can train in that are sanctioned. You need people interesting in spending a lot of time training, lots of money and the correct facilities.

    • @blitz7765
      @blitz7765 2 года назад

      @@BillC-64 I don't actually have an argument against that
      Time to go cry

  • @xstrawarot
    @xstrawarot 2 года назад +34

    today i learned that bobsledding is no fair sport, because everybody has a different sled and the richer teams wins.

    • @andersandersen6295
      @andersandersen6295 2 года назад +8

      Pretty much goes for 80% of all sports.

    • @ohyes7170
      @ohyes7170 2 года назад +5

      Many years ago, person with better swimming suit won, F1 race is actually all about how great your car is. rich country has alot of natural grass training field for football game, poor countries dont. It's all a sure thing.

  • @dukeloo
    @dukeloo 2 года назад +67

    I'd like to participate in a monobob! It's more like a soapbox derby sled.

    • @jatinbangar4371
      @jatinbangar4371 2 года назад +5

      ..but you are not a woman, Alan

    • @heidelbergaren5054
      @heidelbergaren5054 2 года назад +13

      @@jatinbangar4371
      Maybe he doesn’t need to be in the olympics…

    • @omeee
      @omeee 2 года назад +3

      @@jatinbangar4371 But he can identify as one. With more power and weight, he has a good advantage.

    • @crinkly.love-stick
      @crinkly.love-stick 2 года назад

      @@omeee not to mention the false bravado thats so famous for men's successes (and deaths)

    • @blitzblix9455
      @blitzblix9455 2 года назад

      @@jatinbangar4371 yes its sad that he cant

  • @WearyKirin
    @WearyKirin 2 года назад +32

    The olypmics really needs to standardize equipment; it should be a competition between athletes not equipment manufacturers

    • @Avi2Nyan
      @Avi2Nyan 2 года назад +3

      Exactly! If I wanna see the best engineered vehicles, I'd just watch F1 all day

    • @swunt10
      @swunt10 2 года назад +4

      sport has always been about equipment and the equipment got amazingly good thanks to that.

    • @ahastar1141
      @ahastar1141 2 года назад +1

      I mean most olympic sports come down to equipment. Even when you look at super G, it's about which team can get the best wax combo for the skis given the snow conditions. Most sports have parameters, but each country is going to work in the grey area as the mentioned to give their people an edge

    • @srthebox4946
      @srthebox4946 2 года назад +1

      It’s the opposite for stuff like nascar, I wish it was like the old times where the companies would actually try to one up each other with the cars and them being actual cars you can buy instead of blobs

    • @FurryMeatloaf
      @FurryMeatloaf 2 года назад

      @@swunt10 I learned that when I played golf in high school. I had to play with a set borrowed of K-Mart clubs. My scores were not good and I just figured I was a bad golfer. Then I went to visit my uncle. He took me golfing and let me use his Pings. I hit the ball twice as far as I ever did with my cheap clubs.

  • @rlevy13
    @rlevy13 2 года назад +8

    .... so? Such a non story.

  • @Eteokles81
    @Eteokles81 2 года назад +16

    Never actually answered the question you put into the title, but the article was interesting.

  • @tillthiemann6448
    @tillthiemann6448 2 года назад +16

    Why not a four-athlete category for women too?

    • @galador8089
      @galador8089 2 года назад +11

      There isn‘t enough women athletes, which id what they dodge around off in this video

    • @owenreaney6864
      @owenreaney6864 2 года назад +4

      Yeah i agree, we should also have the monobob for men, so it’s equal for anyone.

  • @slimpickens9103
    @slimpickens9103 2 года назад +5

    The Monobob sounds like a health symptom.

  • @deannilvalli6579
    @deannilvalli6579 2 года назад +5

    No one has suggested a mixed 4 person team? Seems a pretty simple improvement.

  • @DanceySteveYNWA
    @DanceySteveYNWA 2 года назад +2

    Nobody mentions the Brake-man until the brakes fail...

  • @KC-pi6po
    @KC-pi6po 2 года назад +1

    You have my support allready because of the high quality of your videos
    But I need to say it, that little dance at the end tops it all off

  • @AsphaltAntelope
    @AsphaltAntelope 2 года назад +10

    The dance at the end should be at the end of every Vox video. And at the start. And in the middle.

  • @EC-ol8nz
    @EC-ol8nz 2 года назад +4

    As a man, I feel left out 😞😢
    I want to monobob too👍🏿

  • @Levitationable
    @Levitationable 2 года назад +12

    Those old sleds look so odd compared to the modern ones!

  • @ohcolowisc8941
    @ohcolowisc8941 2 года назад +19

    "Leveling the playing field". FYI there are 46 women's medal events at the 2022 Beijing Winter Olympics and only 45 men's medal events. If you want to "level" anything than add one more medal for MEN.

    • @ohcolowisc8941
      @ohcolowisc8941 2 года назад +7

      Wanted to add, there were 174 women's events at the 2020 Tokyo Summer Olympics and only 165 men's events. Level the playing field!

    • @Avi2Nyan
      @Avi2Nyan 2 года назад +1

      It's about people from different and poorer countries being able to have a chance tho

    • @Avi2Nyan
      @Avi2Nyan 2 года назад

      @@ohcolowisc8941 they should! Give men stuff like rhythmic gymnastics

    • @ohcolowisc8941
      @ohcolowisc8941 2 года назад

      @@Avi2Nyan I so agree! There is even a Western version and a Japanese version. They can make a pick.

  • @aprilsmith3683
    @aprilsmith3683 2 года назад

    This was a truly interesting and informative video...
    "Monobob"...
    May the best woman on the day win the event...
    🇿🇦

  • @justin___
    @justin___ 2 года назад +61

    I'd be curious to see what would happen if the 4-person team could be any combo of men and women. If that were allowed, the engineers would crunch through the numbers and I wouldn't be surprised if it'd be more efficient in some way to have half and half. Or maybe a woman driver and breaker and 2 men to push. In any event, I'd be curious to see what the engineers came up with.

    • @omeee
      @omeee 2 года назад +16

      It would be 4 men. They have more power and weight. If you put 2 men and 2 women into that, the women will always be the driver and breaker because the men have much more power as pushers. It just does not make much sense for an already niche sport.

    • @amyx231
      @amyx231 2 года назад +4

      Women would in theory be smaller and lighter. I’m not sure lighter is better, when gravity is in play.

    • @justin___
      @justin___ 2 года назад +7

      @@amyx231 Exactly, though. But heavy also means harder to accelerate. Maybe it depends on the descent height. Or the number of turns. Or any other number of variables. Maybe it makes sense to put different ratios depending on the course. I just wanna see the math.

    • @justin___
      @justin___ 2 года назад

      @@omeee More power, but slower acceleration. There are still a lot of variables to contend with other than just top speed.

    • @omeee
      @omeee 2 года назад +6

      @@justin___ you are not the brightest in physics, are you? Even in the video they said there is a weight limit. More weight, definetely faster. And more weight in atheletes is usually more muscles and more power at the start.

  • @ltcars27
    @ltcars27 2 года назад +4

    I love how Germanys medals dont get combined, but are separated into 3 countries

    • @robertjones4201
      @robertjones4201 2 года назад +1

      You can't combine them fairly in a comparison, East and West Germany would have been competing against each other for decades so in any medal tally there'd be a decent period of time where their tally is inflated by having twice as many opportunities to get medals in those Olympic events before reunification.

    • @ltcars27
      @ltcars27 2 года назад +2

      @@robertjones4201 Yeah, but then at least combine west Germany and today's Germany

    • @robertjones4201
      @robertjones4201 2 года назад +4

      @@ltcars27 That would be the best option yes, but it would also require Vox going against their ethos of getting everything wrong about anything outside of America.

  • @vasilerogojan4520
    @vasilerogojan4520 2 года назад +1

    Another day, another video related to the 2022 Olympics. Interesting as usual.

  • @armanrashidi4253
    @armanrashidi4253 2 года назад +2

    any backstory on the stamp featured at 12 seconds into the video featuring a Tanzania Dar es Salaam bobsled stamp?

  • @rainybeet
    @rainybeet 2 года назад +3

    Never answered the question of why 1 person sledding is just for women. It seems the best way to solve the problem would be to standardize all sleds since currently the only variant to rely solely on athlete skill is the monobob, and it would solve the affordability problem as well as the equal opportunity problem.

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz 2 года назад

      Basically they did answer it: the IOC wanted an equal number of bobsled disciplines for men and women in olympic games.
      And due to lower costs for the participating teams they decided to use monobob for women as the second event and kept the mens events as they were.

  • @CrazyHorse151
    @CrazyHorse151 2 года назад +1

    How is this even a point of discussion? Amazing.

  • @kopipal5484
    @kopipal5484 2 года назад +12

    So my only question is: Why the Olympic monobob event is only for women?

    • @guppy719
      @guppy719 2 года назад

      They olympic committee has decided that their needs to be the exact same number of events for men and women.

  • @Marsssification
    @Marsssification 2 года назад +2

    You did not answer the question in the title.

  • @jacobhanekamp2534
    @jacobhanekamp2534 2 года назад

    What about the Mixed Events? Is that ran in the Olympics or in other competitions?

  • @xMckingwill
    @xMckingwill 2 года назад +5

    Im confused im not sure what the problem was.
    What i heard wasnt that there was some issue between men and women but what countries had the money to build better sled.

    • @CastleBomb44
      @CastleBomb44 2 года назад

      Less chances for women to potentially earn a metal than for men. Men have a 4 person sled, women have a monopod for one Person to potentially earn a metal

  • @jimmyhsp
    @jimmyhsp 2 года назад +1

    this olympic upload schedule is awesome

  • @prabhanjana1139
    @prabhanjana1139 2 года назад +3

    This video never answered the question. But why?

  • @peekaboo7958
    @peekaboo7958 2 года назад +8

    *The synchronized swimming and softball and rhythmic gymnastics are exclusive to women in the olympics and no man cry about it!*

    • @Avi2Nyan
      @Avi2Nyan 2 года назад

      They should!!!!

  • @triciac.5078
    @triciac.5078 2 года назад

    hahah!! "Our uterus would fall out or something. Who knows." LOL

  • @Markone99
    @Markone99 2 года назад +11

    Soooooo... Why?? You really didn't answer the question, you just explained this sport and why winning is related to money.

  • @ashshopalot
    @ashshopalot 2 года назад

    I love your sweater! Where it is from?

  • @antoniovgmx
    @antoniovgmx 2 года назад

    Monobob sounds like spec racing which is dope 👀 all in the driver

  • @niranjanbalu6817
    @niranjanbalu6817 2 года назад +13

    Should end with "And Bob is your uncle !"

  • @benw3864
    @benw3864 2 года назад +6

    They should have a mono, duo, and quad for both men and women and mixed team events for duo and quad. They should also all use the same sleds. Boom problem solved.

    • @SylviaRustyFae
      @SylviaRustyFae 2 года назад

      Mixed for monobob too; can only compete if youre nonbinary or intersex.

  • @cdc6970
    @cdc6970 2 года назад +3

    I've been really enjoying Vox's videos on Winter olympic sports.Hoping to see more of it. Thanks Vox!!

  • @Lcngopher
    @Lcngopher 2 года назад

    The 2010 4 man gold medal sled for the us was built by a company created by a former nascar cup series driver. He started the company after visiting test runs in the early 90s and seeing they didnt use american built sleds and set out to change that

  • @why78yu
    @why78yu 2 года назад

    You did an excellent story! I also liked your style.

  • @pistolen87
    @pistolen87 2 года назад +70

    I don't think a win in 4 man bobsled counts as four gold medals like you imply.

    • @Earth2LalaLand
      @Earth2LalaLand 2 года назад +14

      I think they meant it in the context of promoting participation bc more athletes can compete in a 4 person team to rep their country (so 3 more people can rep that country).

    • @envera9553
      @envera9553 2 года назад +8

      I think she means that four athletes can get a medal instead of just one so more people would be interested in trying the sport.

    • @tubthungusbychumbungus
      @tubthungusbychumbungus 2 года назад

      its still 3 more people with a medal

    • @Krashnachen
      @Krashnachen 2 года назад +12

      and... is that the point of the sport? Give as many people as possible medals? Idk what point they're trying to make

    • @temistogen
      @temistogen 2 года назад +4

      1 event,1 category=1 medal,even tho people get 4 there.
      In basketball,football and waterpolo we have the same thing.
      1 medal no matter how many on the team got it.

  • @macblair27
    @macblair27 2 года назад +1

    Great Interview!!!!!

  • @DannyBPlays
    @DannyBPlays 2 года назад

    I love the video but it doesn't answer the question posed in the title

  • @danhayek
    @danhayek 2 года назад +4

    It seems like many Winter Olympic sports are overly equipment intensive leading to rich countries constantly dominating. By comparison look at sprinting where Jamaica is highly competitive and dominant. That’s true athleticism to me. Jumping in expensive gear down a hill? Not so much.

    • @aesyamazeli8804
      @aesyamazeli8804 2 года назад

      Winter Olympic is rich people Olympic.

    • @ahastar1141
      @ahastar1141 2 года назад

      Even sprinting has some tech in it surrounding the spikes

  • @michalvalko248
    @michalvalko248 2 года назад

    When you realize that 2nd 3rd and 4th guy has never seen his ride...

  • @sungillk12
    @sungillk12 2 года назад +4

    Assuming this is just the first step to grow womens bobsled globally, it makes sense to build a critial mass of experienced pilots. It seems the next logical step is to have womens 4 person sleds that are equal and reasonably priced. That will increase the number of competitors and still make it accessible to more countries

  • @dmona1766
    @dmona1766 2 года назад

    I gasped when they said $100k, why is this a thing. People have wages that are a quarter of that

  • @47thProblem
    @47thProblem 2 года назад

    Nice sweater... where is it from?

  • @greenforce888
    @greenforce888 Год назад

    "Does this actually level the playing field?"
    No, the men still compete separately.

  • @alvapazz
    @alvapazz 2 года назад +3

    4:19 why aren't W and E Germany added up to the main Germany?

  • @lisapham4443
    @lisapham4443 2 года назад

    Got recommended this vid after seeing one on Micro-concussion in bobsledding. 😓

  • @EForrest88
    @EForrest88 2 года назад +1

    kind of silly how many olympic sports still don't have standardised equipment, just feels like it defeats the purpose.

  • @morsecodereviews1553
    @morsecodereviews1553 2 года назад

    I came to hear someone say "monobob". I wasn't disappointed.

  • @lukasz4137
    @lukasz4137 2 года назад

    Why is sovjet unie on this list 4:19 explain please

  • @breekwhal
    @breekwhal Год назад +1

    You should have named the Jamaican athletes you were talking about:
    Jazmine Fenlator-Victorian and Carrie Russell!!! They have names!!!

  • @se4949
    @se4949 2 года назад +1

    “With five countries dominating the podium”
    *skips Germany

  • @skojuzija
    @skojuzija 2 года назад

    Give them back and front wings, and Venturi tunels like in F1😂

  • @rolandmclovin1499
    @rolandmclovin1499 2 года назад

    That closing dance tho

  • @Xanderall
    @Xanderall 2 года назад +1

    Another great video! Congrats, Miss Mas!!

  • @discosecret6363
    @discosecret6363 2 года назад

    Honestly, monobob has quickly become my favorite variety!

  • @FantasKanal
    @FantasKanal 2 года назад

    4:18 yeah, but you left out the 2 germanys. Germany go brrr.

  • @AZDiabloVids
    @AZDiabloVids 2 года назад

    Wider track with 4 - 6 teams competing head to head would be more exciting.

  • @derorje2035
    @derorje2035 2 года назад +1

    The best part:
    The GDR (east Germany) did exist for only 40 years but Italy and Canada (who are both far larger and richer) didn't get as much olympic medals as the GDR.

    • @derorje2035
      @derorje2035 2 года назад

      @bruce parka Yeah, you are right, the doping program was uge. But doping doesn't affect bob sleighing that much. I mean stearing and aerodynamics do have a much greater impact than the few meters at the start of a track.

  • @JuanCamiloRomero
    @JuanCamiloRomero 2 года назад +3

    so why is it only for women?

  • @shigekax
    @shigekax 2 года назад

    Oh i just realised these videos are going out for the winter games

  • @ghosthunter0950
    @ghosthunter0950 2 года назад

    Please don't become the next buzzfeed... this channel has so many good things about it it would be a shame.

  • @Uebeltank
    @Uebeltank 2 года назад +9

    The incident mentioned in the description, with the Norwegian beach handball team, did NOT happen at the Olympic Games, where handball is only played indoor.

  • @CharlieTheNerd91
    @CharlieTheNerd91 2 года назад

    3:52 my OCD flared up extremely at that frame.....

  • @stevenhe198911
    @stevenhe198911 2 года назад

    It seems this sport maybe fit for" debris impact avoidance action" in future space mission

  • @haoxus9413
    @haoxus9413 2 года назад

    I like their hularious way to ridicule the ban lol

  • @peterjohnson617
    @peterjohnson617 2 года назад +1

    when did anyone ever say life was meant to be equal ???/

  • @AC-im4hi
    @AC-im4hi 2 года назад

    Monolob actually looks way cooler than the others.

  • @ChristianFaucher
    @ChristianFaucher 2 года назад

    +1 for the little dance at the end.

  • @Johan-di6md
    @Johan-di6md 2 года назад

    Can't they have more weight categories? Thus giving more athletes a chance at a medal.

  • @fessss83
    @fessss83 2 года назад

    Yeah, monobob is an interesting idea. You don't need a second driver to push breaks when you're driving!

  • @helloworld5491
    @helloworld5491 2 года назад

    Shoutout for using metric as default at 1:26

  • @andreasschuster9225
    @andreasschuster9225 2 года назад

    Elana won silver today in Beijing! 🥈

  • @danielf986
    @danielf986 2 года назад

    What was with the editing towards the end?

  • @laurencapwell180
    @laurencapwell180 2 года назад

    Really tired of inequality.

  • @garcipat
    @garcipat 2 года назад

    That breakmans position is terrifying. this will break your neck in an instant in case of a crash..