i have a td30 k kit and don't really see a big enough impact on the td50 to look at upgrading anytime soon...the new kit seems transitional...once roland bring out an all USB kit then maybe.
Good review , I had the TD30KV for 3 years and decided to go for the upgrade package and without a doubt the TD50 module is better the sound overall has more depth and the cross stick on the digital snare is just perfect together with overall accuracy of stick placement. The ride hands down is the best electronic ride ever.
I just discovered your channel. Thank you very much for making this video. The MOST important thing to me in an electronic drum set, is the extent to which it can authentically mimic an acoustic drum set IN FEEL of play. You can have the best sound package in the world, but if it doesn’t feel right, you’re not going to play that well. My number one gripe about the TD-30, is the ride cymbal. So I was both excited to hear about the improvements on the TD-50, and saddened to learn from your video that you can’t just add a TD-50 symbol to a TD-30. I absolutely LOVE my TD-30KV. It has been a game changer for me in four areas. 1. Studio in this area, I don’t really care what the “sounds“ are like… We always do a midi record out and engineers usually want to change the sounds anyway in postproduction. 2. I do a lot of inter-city work, and portability is very important to me. I had cases made for my kit, and the entire thing fits into three cases, all carefully crafted to meet airline regulations and minimize fees. 3. Convenience. At gigs I’m usually set up way before even the guitarists, keyboardist, and bass players get their “Riggs“ set up and tested, troubleshoot it, etc. with my Tete 30, I basically put together hook up the cables turn it on, take a few minutes for micro-adjustments. And I’m done. 4. Small venue game changer. We can take a gig in a smaller venue, or one where the owner/management don’t want it to be “too loud“ and yet still play hard-hitting rock/fusion/etc. we don’t use any amplifiers on stage of any kind. EVERYTHING is piped into the PA system. Since there’s not a “loud” drum set in the room, the bass player does not need to turn up, meaning the guitarist does not need to turn up, etc. Our gigs at least tripled after I got this kit about four years ago and we made the structural changes around it. Again, thank you. You now have a new subscriber :-)
Hi Mark :) Glad you're liking the channel. The TD30kv is a SWEET drumset, I might be biased because I have a TD30k haha. If you ever get a chance to try out the Td50 line, let me know what you think of it!
65 Drums I feel silly, because I used to visit you when you published under “Jason Greenwald“, and only this morning realized you were the same Justin. Silly me. :) I did post a just now on your tutorial on Roland “air recorder“. With iPhones new release of 64 bit iOS 11, it no longer works. So I’m desperately searching for an alternative. I use it daily for collaboration purposes. Yeah, there are other workarounds, but this is so convenient for the purpose I use it for. It annoys me that Roland just sort of threw me away. I was about to pull the trigger on the TD 50, and now I’m reconsidering.
I see some naysaying and comments that you shouldn’t make an investment into edrums but rather buy a high end acoustic. Now, I enjoy acoustic drumming, very much. I play HARD. I can’t help it, I started in heavier genres but have since moved on to other things. Though my playing style is still hard. I can’t help but want to keep up the chops. I have found that the high end Roland’s can take a beating, really. I have been told by producers I am def going to break them! But (knock on wood) it’s been a substantial length of time and they are doing their job gig after gig, as well as rehearsals. I feel like you pay for what you get. For me the advantages are the durability, the ability to have rehearsal with the band at more manageable levels (even with headphones, if we choose), you can easily play along to any tracks run through your module (for learning purposes), making a studio experience a breeze - you can run a straight midi tracked drum session and apply countless programs (our producer we work with loves this), and you can dive into a new world of sounds. Turn your kit into something nobody else would - give your band a truly unique sound. I am just delving into the world of hybrid drumming. Combine the drum pads and put triggers on acoustic drums, really layer some unique sounds and effects! It is the digital age. To utilize all the avenues that electronic drumming can offer to a live performance is an amazing experience. Wether you choose the td30 or the td50 you are going to open new doors in your drumming career. Drum on, friends!!
not to mention that nearly every pro drummer nowadays is using either all electric, or a hybrid of electric and acoustic. Many you wouldn't even realize.
I agree I would get the 30kv no question and then just purchase the ATV 18"ride and maybe do a conversation for a bigger floor Tom. 14". I would buy it used though and then sell the module to fund a mimic pro. Winning! Lol
Question... Can you swap the ride symbol, the snare, and the module with the one you prefer to make the ultimate set, if not all are do any of the three swappable? I'm going to be upgrading my drum set soon I'm heading this way. Thnx! Great video.
Great video, thanks Justin! Questions: As of now, Black Friday time frame, the 30KV and 50K are about the same price (almost). Maybe noob question, but would it be more worth it to buy the 50K and spend the money you would spend on 30KV upgrades (module, snare, ride) on the extra tom the 50K is missing? Also, since the 50K is starting to use more USB for sensors which are only compatible to 50K module, would the 50K be better for future proofing (to upgrade far down the line individual USB components if so desired)?
Thanks for this informative video. I was researching on some forums and there appears to be a bass and snare drop issue with the 50 at the moment. So this is steering me to the 30 as well. Software updates!
I have am buying a TD30 in absolute pristine condition with DW 5000 dbl bass and DW 4000 remote hi hat included this weekend for $3,500 which absolutely seems like the right decision for me. Do think that's a fair price ?
Being new to edrums yet again, The more I investigated, the more I liked the Super Natural sound. My initial thought was to go with the TD17, its a newer module and therefore must be far better than the older modules. I found that not to be the case. My input to this idea of newer is far better ended when I purchased a TD6V with PD85 tom pads and a PD105 snare. I discovered (by dumb luck) that e-drum sounds are not entirely module related. Adapting those TD6V pads to my TD15 woke up the entire capability of that module as compared to the PDX 8 pads. To validate this assumption, I placed a PDX 8 pad into the mix of my PD85s and there is a very real difference in the sound one acquires from the two different pads... Its a huge difference. .... Where this note will not make much difference between the TD30 and the TD50 (as they include the high end pads) it will make a vast difference when considering mid range kits. ....... While investigating the TD17 VS TD15 VS TD27 modules, I also listened to quite a bit of video relative to the TD30 and the TD50, and where I'm confidant that the digital snare and ride are impressive, I'm still not sold on the sounds of the TD50 over the TD30..... I still like the Natural Sound module... I think this might be a area where Roland is disconnecting from its customers, as I hear the identical comments from others. Maybe Roland would be wise to offer their latest module (TD50) with plug in expansion which allows the TD30 SuperNatural sounds, and maybe even the TD20X. With newer tech having limitation as to its Wow factor, maybe the best option is to allow consumers to carry along all of Rolands older sounds with their newer modules. Currently, in order to change from one Roland module to the next, people have to give up their prior module sounds, that they have come to admire. That"s a difficult decision for me personally. I have heard the TD17 and its not something I would be willing to give up my TD15 for... I have equally heard the TD27 and its not so awe inspiring that I would give up my TD15 for it either. I would however consider a TD27 if... I could bring over my old TD15 sounds... however currently, that is simply not the case. Roland can and should do better for its customers. But there is something in Japanese culture, which thinks eliminate the old and move entirely to the new.... But, my desire as a customer is to have both the old and the new... Both the SuperNatural and the Prismatic... It would be a vast increase for Roland if they would do such with their flagship models as well. Imagine how much better the TD50 would be if it had the capability to be both the TD30 and the TD50 sound and feature wise. I think consumers would be more than willing to purchase a SuperNatural expansion for their TD50, and the same goes for the TD27 and its ability to add the TD15 and even the TD25 sounds as expansions maybe even all the way back to the TD6V which has over 1000 instruments. Im off my soap box now...
Uh what drum software would you recommend? I'm running the latest Cubase...I have some vintage kits I bought a few years ago but I bet there's better ones now...;) I just bought the TD50K180 set with the 18"kick ...I haven't opened the boxes yet cuz I'm getting ready to move...lol Gonna add a few of my other cymbals to it..and cowbell trigger..should be nice on it's own but for recording it would be great to have some real good sets to choose from...
As electronic kit player since the 80's (no joke) solely roland for the past 20 years, I avg. 60 -70 gigs a year with this being said dollar for dollar the TD-30 is the way to go, they no longer make this module, it's hard to go against a digital kit in regards to recording but for live it makes no difference and the TD-30 offers more layers and kits then the TD50 Also on a side note making electronic kits the size of acoustic kits defeats the purpose of lighter load ins, and playing in tight places with big sounds so making 14inch snares and 18inch rides absolutely makes no sense whats so ever! you will play the ride and snare the same way weather they are half the size or not.
i also have been playing electronic drums since the 80's,,simmons,then alesis,and then roland,love my td 30's and i agree that the comparison to ,and the making them larger is silly,,i play a lot of smaller venues and i change kits to match the different genres often during,and the volume control is second to none,,i have also played the td 50's and i wouldn't trade my 30's for the world,,i also do some recordings and again no issues with overtones or over modulations or room noise,i have played for over 50 yrs professionally and i love'em!!!
Hey bro! I know this doesn't have anything about this video, but I have a quick question, I wanted to buy a electronic drumset, I've playing acoustic drums, but I need to have one electronic drum because the noises, I've been thinking about it and what do you think about Alesis strike? Is worth? Did you played it? I've been hearing that sounds awful, but what you get in the box is worth for your money, I'm not a professional but I'm not a beginner either, I don't know how much is gonna bother me the bad sounds that the strike have, but man, that kit looks amazing! I never played one before but it looks that feels really good, in the scale of 1 to 10 what do you think? (And sorry for my English haha)
Oh, and I forgot to mention that I can't spend more than 2.000, that's why I said strike and not the strike pro, because I still need to buy a hi-hat pedal, the throne, etc..
I had the money and after extensive research I just can get myself to love the 1 up 2 down and the snare sound of the td-50. It just doesn't sound well with what I like to play. There were only 3 kits I liked (not loved). So I went with the td-30k. I love the sounds of it. Although i still plan on getting Superior Drummer 3 for it. I added another floor tom pad and got the Mackie Thump 18S Subwoofer and the Mackie Thump 12 Loudspeakers, the VH-13 hats, and the Boss FS-6 foot switch. It's currently on the way via UPS Freight. Can't wait for it to get to Puerto Rico. Shipping is way too slow right now.
just wondering....why use a direct box with the drum module to a PA mixer? I'm wondering because I have an old TD10 with expansion, and I'm using the direct outs for each drum pad, and I am running it straight to my mixer via 1/4" cables and everything seems to work and sound fine??
Hey Justin, this may be a total noob question, but if you're planning to use the drum-kit with _Superior Drummer 3_ exclusively, do you still need to purchase the sound module?
I don't know why people who get e drums to trigger software go with the big expensive modules. Something like an old TD9 module for $150 bucks will trigger SD3 just as well
+musicbigz: Ok, but you do need _some_ module then? I mean, there's not some cheaper solution that will only translate the actual drumming to the computer with no build-in sounds at all?
So you'll always need a module of some kind to act as the triggering processing center before the MIDI notes are sent to the computer and the VST software. And the cheaper modules on the market will have slightly less accurate triggering with higher possible latency. The only way around this would be if they started making desktop computers with full sets of trigger inputs - which I find incredibly unlikely to happen any time in the near future. But they could also make some kind external interface USB device containing the trigger inputs, with no adjustment settings and on-board sounds. Then you would use some kind of included software to adjust the trigger settings. It's actually a pretty cool idea if you think about it. But for now, the cheapest way you can go down this path would be to get the Alesis Trigger i/o, which is meant for this exact purpose - people that ONLY want to trigger MIDI VSTs. The Trigger i/o is very limited, however, compared to even the most basic drum modules available. It has no on-board sounds and very limited trigger settings/adjustments. It has only 10 dual-zone inputs, and I'm pretty sure it can't handle a variable hi-hat like the Roland VH-11/VH-13 or the Alesis Pro-X. Also, the latency on this thing is not gonna be as good as a Roland or Yamaha module. This is why you're better off finding a used Roland TD-12, TD-20, TD-25, TD-15, TD-11, or a TD-30 if you can afford it. You can even get a TD-8 or TD-10 if you can find one on eBay. And remember, the latency thing is only gonna be a problem if you're computer is lacking in power and memory. Otherwise, if you're using a Trigger i/o with a computer running something like a 2.8ghz quad-core Intel i7 with at least 8 or 16gb of RAM, you should only have latency in the neighborhood of 7-12 ms. Remember that 12ms is about where most people can start to notice latency and only it becomes an a after about 15-20ms. But if you were to use the same computer with a Roland module (even an older one), you could keep latency down to below 7ms and you would never even notice it.
While the Alesis I/O may be the cheapest midi interface, it leaves a LOT to be desired. If you are technically inclined and don't mind spending time tinkering with settings as much as you like playing drums, then you should consider the Megadrum. It is designed to work with every analog trigger-based pad, cymbal and hihat out there, including home brew (it will NOT work with the Roland USB digital ride and snare). Megadrum comes in a pre-built 32 input or a 56 input version, and if you are REALLY tech you can even just buy the parts and build it into whatever enclosure or device you want (someone has even built it INSIDE of a cajon). Megadrum has NO internal sounds, you must use it with a VST. It has probably the lowest internal latency of any MIDI trigger, but keep in mind that the latency issue is not so much in the computer itself as it is the drivers and the sound card. So, for really, really low latency with this type of setup, you should consider a quality audio interface like a MOTU or RME.
if you dont have a lot of money to blow at one time, what is the best way to slowly build up a drum set over time? also it is easier to convert an acoustic set or to buy roland pads seperately?
Hi Justin! This is a timely video for me. I am literally in the middle of trying to decide this question for myself. I actually own BOTH modules (TD-30/TD-50). My kit consists essentially the pads and cymbals of the TD-30KV. So the digital snare and ride pads are NOT part of my decision equation. I bought the TD-50 first about six months ago, but have been somewhat disappointed in the number of sounds available on it, not the quality of the sounds (they are fantastic) but the selection available. The TD-30 has MANY more choices. There are only 5 snares and 4 tom choices in the TD-50. They sound great, but if those sounds aren't what you're looking for, you're somewhat out of luck even with the ability to load other samples. The imported samples don't have near the amount of editing available and typically don't sound as good as the built-in sounds. So... I found a good deal on a TD-30 module on ebay and picked one up last week. It has a MUCH better selection of sounds to choose from. They aren't QUITE as good a quality maybe, but still very good. Now I can't make up my mind whether to trade the larger selection of sounds with the TD-30, for the quality of the sounds and the additional features of the TD-50? I really like the dual headphone inputs, 10 channel USB recording, XLR outputs, sample import ability, sample layering, and the new user interface with more jog dials of the TD-50. Essentially I like the sounds of the TD-30 and the features of the TD-50. I am really torn. And, no, it is not really feasible to export sounds from the TD-30 and import them into the TD-50 as samples. Even if someone was willing to take the time to do so, as I mentioned before, imported samples in the TD-50 are just not as dynamic and playable as Roland's built-in sounds. But since I do have both modules, I'd be happy to answer any questions anyone might have about both. And if any of you have any compelling logic for which module I should keep I'd love to hear that too. I really can't afford to keep them both. Thanks!
thguy01, what did you end up doing? I owned a TD30KVS and sold it a few years ago and bought a Gretsch USA custom acoustic set. Now, I'm getting the itch to get another electronic set to allow me to get more practice in and also help with those gigs in smaller venues where the volume of an acoustic set is too much and I'm forced to lay back when playing. Having "stage presence" is important to me so I'm thinking about converting a cheap acoustic set into an electronic set. I'm leaning toward a TD50 module with roland's new snare and ride; but I hear Justin commenting that the sounds of the Pearl Mimic are better. I also need to other percussion instrument sounds from the module I choose, such as bongos, congas and timbales. Your thoughts on TD30 vs TD50 vs MimicPro Modules?
I agree with the points you made. I immediately noticed the 50kv didn't have the double-base, and was missing a tom (which the tom is no biggie for me, but a double base, hell yeah). I'd take the 30kv over the 50kv just for the double base!!! And yeah, I'm definitely buying one of these 2 bad-boys ASAP! Hoping Guitar Center has either in stock!!!
Who uses two floor toms? i looked really hard for a second floor tom in my vintage drums colours for years just because it was cheap, bad and i liked the looks and could use it as a table but for real to play on it?
Another great video!. My only comment is that you didn't talk much about the snare drum functionality and why that would make certain types of drummers want to buy the set - the major advantage being that you can do cross-stick rim shots with your hand on the drum head, and it will only trigger the side-stick sound. Personally, I don't do acoustic-style cross-stick rim shots on my electronic snare drum because (1) you can get the same sound just by assigning the rim trigger with a "sidestick" sound, and (2) because I don't see the need to ALSO have a trigger for that sound you get simply by hitting the rim of a real drum. I don't hear that sound in 99% of music I listen to or play my drums to. But for drummers that are very used to doing that traditional cross-stick action on an acoustic kit, who don't want to just hit the rim of the snare drum for the same sound, and/or who also want to preserve that "rim-hit" sound for the actual rim trigger, the USB snare drum could be well worth it. BUT - this is assuming that the digital snare drum is actually tripled-zoned - snare head/cross-stick/rim-hit. Is this true? If not, and it's still only a dual-zone drum, then the only advantage of this ridiculously expensive snare drum is simply being able to do an acoustic style cross-stick. So I personally don't see the advantage of buying this set for the snare drum, or of buying the snare drum separately - especially not for $700! At least not on my current budget. I recently purchased Roland's BT-1 trigger bar and I'm in the process of setting everything up so that the BT-1 makes a "side-stick," and my snare drum's rim will trigger the "rim-hit" sound, even though I don't really use that sound. So this is almost the same thing as what the digital snare can do, assuming it does in fact trigger 3 different notes. Ya get me? Currently I use a Hart Dynamics 13" snare drum that supports positional sensing and has an amazing feeling mesh head. I only paid about $250 for it on sale from Musician's friend back in 2012, right before the company went out of business. This thing still looks and plays as good as the day I took it out of the box, and drummers who play my set always comment on how great it feels and how good the triggering is. If this was today, I would buy a snare drum from either Jobecky or Drum-tec, but definitely not Roland. As for the USB ride cymbal - in my opinion, this is what makes the whole thing worth it. I've owned the TD-50 with the digital ride cymbal and I wish I could have afforded to keep them. Eventually I'd like to buy another TD-50 with the digital ride cymbal, but I only would use it for triggering VSTs. I think the sounds on the TD-50 are a joke. They might have a slightly higher recording quality (i.e. higher bit rate, file size, etc...) but the lack of variety compared to what comes on the TD-30 is a total disgrace. Shame on you Roland, Shame!! Again - awesome video and thanks for what you're doing.
Justin, if I had the money I’d buy the TD30. My friend Jon has a TD 30 and just replaced the module, snare and ride with the TD50 versions. Roland has gotten fat and lazy and other companies like Alesis and Pearl are coming up fast and ready to overtake Roland.
I've had a roland TD11KV for 8 years, works perfectly fine and sounds brilliant for my weekly gigs. Bought a pearl E-pro for my home and it was so bad i gave it away for free to a friend. So no, Pearl is not going to overtake Roland any time soon or in the distant future.
Mariana Jaramillo no definitely not. i regret not getting the 50k for 3 grand less. literally the kv just has bigger toms and a better rack. not worth 3k extra trust me
Hey Justin what would you buy the td 30 or the 50 for $3500 I would love to hear from you ASAP before I pull the trigger!!!!!?????? Or anybody’s feed back is welcome. Thanks
Question for all. Sorry I’m new to edrums. I see some people using plastic tipped sticks for mesh kits. Is plastic tips better for the mesh kits? Thanks.
I think both are fine according to his other videos. Just make sure they are new and not used on a regular drum set. Any splinters or rough edges can snag and mark mesh heads and cymbals. I personally use nylon tips on my Roland set and they work fine. Also felt kick drum beaters will mar mesh heads. Use a different beater or patch made to protect drum head. Mine is made by Evans.
If I had money, I would never pay 8000 euros for TD-50kv. I'd rather buy shells from Drum-tec with the Mimic-Pro module and ATV cymbals (maybe even aDrums + Mimic Pro), so it would cost less than the over-estimated Roland, and it would look and sound better.
That's completly true, but It depends on the shell pack you buy. Cheaper Drumtec shells cost $1300-$3000. The flagship version is $4000. The mimic is $2200, and a full set of ATV cymbals costs around $1800. So that's $8000. Same price as a TD50kv if you buy the best Drumtec shell pack, $5700 if you buy the cheaper version.
Yep, I was thinking of cheaper versions. For example, the Pro series shell sets are about 3000 euros (about $ 3500), while Diabolo series shells (which is also fantastic) are slightly cheaper than 2000 euros. I hope you will soon have the opportunity to try ATV aDrums, 'cause I can't wait to see your review about this kit. By the way, following your channel I was hooked on electronic drums and I'm thinking to definitely switch from acoustic to electronic. :)
the *main* reason I would want a TD50 is to get rid of the line noise in my mains... I'd love to have those XLR balanced outputs. Prob not worth it though. What can I use to convert my tD30's digital coax out, to XLR, at the last minute, right before the mixer?
honestly, if i was to buy a 7 thousand dollar drum set, i would just say fuck it and buy a beast acoustic set, i love electric drum sets and all, there absolutely amazing. but no matter how much software is put into an electric drum, it will never give it that punch that the sound of an good quality acoustic set. sorry for sounding like an electric kit hater. I just think its a bit pointless buying a drum set that's 6 thousand dollars
Not really pointless, if it you see it as a tool that you are going to use a lot more for practice and gigging than you can currently do with an acoustic kit.
Good electronic kits are way more expensive than great acoustic sets, but I live in the apartment :( If I had my own studio, I would have bought Mapex Saturn without any doubt, so I would have the extra money for a solid used car. But that's not the case with me :( Nevertheless, I'd never spent so much money as is necessary for the flagship Roland set. I would rather choose ATV aDrums with Pearl Mimic Pro
fallen prophecy saying it's pointless is like saying it's pointless to buy a laptop that costs 2-4 times that of a PC with same processor, RAM, storage, etc. Different products for different people.
The TD-50 does have SOME better sounds, but in the big picture, I think the TD-30 is a better all around drum module. If someone offered to trade me a TD-50 for my TD-30, I would decline.
(A little late) About 00:24 My theory as to why they skipped the TD-40 is due to superstition. Roland is based in Japan, where the number 4 is considered unlucky (same for China and Korea); I doubt that they'd want to use an unfortunate number for a flagship.
You said, "Money is no option"? lmfao the phrase is "Money is no object". No object means it doesn't influence your decisions. Really like the videos though please keep 'em comin'!
Dette er nok den beste lyden jeg har hørt av elektroniske trommesett men i Norge er det så dyre at jeg kan jo kjøpe 2 meget bra akustiske sett for samme prisen av et av Roland sine sett
Man....where's the comparison about the sounds/ instruments / kits available on either models .... big factor issue here as TD-30 has 1000+ whereas TD-50 only 400... but this fact is well hidden from specs , demos, reviews all around ...hmmmm !
Played the TD-50kv several times. If they had only kept the TD-30 sounds and added to it:( The TD-50 has 600 less sounds, and they are not the-bread-and-butter rock repertoire sounds.
i have a td30 k kit and don't really see a big enough impact on the td50 to look at upgrading anytime soon...the new kit seems transitional...once roland bring out an all USB kit then maybe.
agreed. td30 owner and so far it looks like ill be buying a pearl mimic instead of the td50 upgrade pack with snare and ride.. just too much..
Me too. TD30K is just killer. HH took some tweaking but now I am loving it... Slate Drums on the weekends for my Metallica fix..
Good review , I had the TD30KV for 3 years and decided to go for the upgrade package and without a doubt the TD50 module is better the sound overall has more depth and the cross stick on the digital snare is just perfect together with overall accuracy of stick placement. The ride hands down is the best electronic ride ever.
I just discovered your channel. Thank you very much for making this video. The MOST important thing to me in an electronic drum set, is the extent to which it can authentically mimic an acoustic drum set IN FEEL of play. You can have the best sound package in the world, but if it doesn’t feel right, you’re not going to play that well. My number one gripe about the TD-30, is the ride cymbal. So I was both excited to hear about the improvements on the TD-50, and saddened to learn from your video that you can’t just add a TD-50 symbol to a TD-30.
I absolutely LOVE my TD-30KV. It has been a game changer for me in four areas.
1. Studio
in this area, I don’t really care what the “sounds“ are like… We always do a midi record out and engineers usually want to change the sounds anyway in postproduction.
2. I do a lot of inter-city work, and portability is very important to me. I had cases made for my kit, and the entire thing fits into three cases, all carefully crafted to meet airline regulations and minimize fees.
3. Convenience.
At gigs I’m usually set up way before even the guitarists, keyboardist, and bass players get their “Riggs“ set up and tested, troubleshoot it, etc. with my Tete 30, I basically put together hook up the cables turn it on, take a few minutes for micro-adjustments. And I’m done.
4. Small venue game changer.
We can take a gig in a smaller venue, or one where the owner/management don’t want it to be “too loud“ and yet still play hard-hitting rock/fusion/etc.
we don’t use any amplifiers on stage of any kind. EVERYTHING is piped into the PA system. Since there’s not a “loud” drum set in the room, the bass player does not need to turn up, meaning the guitarist does not need to turn up, etc.
Our gigs at least tripled after I got this kit about four years ago and we made the structural changes around it.
Again, thank you. You now have a new subscriber :-)
Hi Mark :) Glad you're liking the channel. The TD30kv is a SWEET drumset, I might be biased because I have a TD30k haha. If you ever get a chance to try out the Td50 line, let me know what you think of it!
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I feel silly, because I used to visit you when you published under “Jason Greenwald“, and only this morning realized you were the same Justin. Silly me. :)
I did post a just now on your tutorial on Roland “air recorder“. With iPhones new release of 64 bit iOS 11, it no longer works. So I’m desperately searching for an alternative.
I use it daily for collaboration purposes. Yeah, there are other workarounds, but this is so convenient for the purpose I use it for.
It annoys me that Roland just sort of threw me away. I was about to pull the trigger on the TD 50, and now I’m reconsidering.
I see some naysaying and comments that you shouldn’t make an investment into edrums but rather buy a high end acoustic. Now, I enjoy acoustic drumming, very much. I play HARD. I can’t help it, I started in heavier genres but have since moved on to other things. Though my playing style is still hard. I can’t help but want to keep up the chops. I have found that the high end Roland’s can take a beating, really. I have been told by producers I am def going to break them! But (knock on wood) it’s been a substantial length of time and they are doing their job gig after gig, as well as rehearsals. I feel like you pay for what you get.
For me the advantages are the durability, the ability to have rehearsal with the band at more manageable levels (even with headphones, if we choose), you can easily play along to any tracks run through your module (for learning purposes), making a studio experience a breeze - you can run a straight midi tracked drum session and apply countless programs (our producer we work with loves this), and you can dive into a new world of sounds. Turn your kit into something nobody else would - give your band a truly unique sound. I am just delving into the world of hybrid drumming. Combine the drum pads and put triggers on acoustic drums, really layer some unique sounds and effects! It is the digital age. To utilize all the avenues that electronic drumming can offer to a live performance is an amazing experience. Wether you choose the td30 or the td50 you are going to open new doors in your drumming career. Drum on, friends!!
not to mention that nearly every pro drummer nowadays is using either all electric, or a hybrid of electric and acoustic. Many you wouldn't even realize.
I agree I would get the 30kv no question and then just purchase the ATV 18"ride and maybe do a conversation for a bigger floor Tom. 14". I would buy it used though and then sell the module to fund a mimic pro. Winning! Lol
SiREN2173 I agree 100% would do the same thing, but keep that 15inch ride as a big crash
The best thing about the td -50 is that everybody is selling td-30 xD
Good one, and a fun module to chain or loop the midi channels.
Hey Justin .... I think comparing the TD50K to the TD30KV would be interesting, considering the price difference is much smaller.
Question... Can you swap the ride symbol, the snare, and the module with the one you prefer to make the ultimate set, if not all are do any of the three swappable?
I'm going to be upgrading my drum set soon I'm heading this way. Thnx! Great video.
Yesss! another video I was looking forward too from you, Thanks justin.
Great video, thanks Justin!
Questions: As of now, Black Friday time frame, the 30KV and 50K are about the same price (almost). Maybe noob question, but would it be more worth it to buy the 50K and spend the money you would spend on 30KV upgrades (module, snare, ride) on the extra tom the 50K is missing?
Also, since the 50K is starting to use more USB for sensors which are only compatible to 50K module, would the 50K be better for future proofing (to upgrade far down the line individual USB components if so desired)?
Thanks for this informative video. I was researching on some forums and there appears to be a bass and snare drop issue with the 50 at the moment. So this is steering me to the 30 as well. Software updates!
The new TD-50 X firmware is a game changer. It makes it a whole new superior module!
I have am buying a TD30 in absolute pristine condition with DW 5000 dbl bass and DW 4000 remote hi hat included this weekend for $3,500 which absolutely seems like the right decision for me. Do think that's a fair price ?
Hi Wayne any update on your purchase? How is the kit?
Being new to edrums yet again, The more I investigated, the more I liked the Super Natural sound. My initial thought was to go with the TD17, its a newer module and therefore must be far better than the older modules. I found that not to be the case.
My input to this idea of newer is far better ended when I purchased a TD6V with PD85 tom pads and a PD105 snare.
I discovered (by dumb luck) that e-drum sounds are not entirely module related.
Adapting those TD6V pads to my TD15 woke up the entire capability of that module as compared to the PDX 8 pads. To validate this assumption, I placed a PDX 8 pad into the mix of my PD85s and there is a very real difference in the sound one acquires from the two different pads... Its a huge difference.
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Where this note will not make much difference between the TD30 and the TD50 (as they include the high end pads) it will make a vast difference when considering mid range kits.
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While investigating the TD17 VS TD15 VS TD27 modules, I also listened to quite a bit of video relative to the TD30 and the TD50, and where I'm confidant that the digital snare and ride are impressive, I'm still not sold on the sounds of the TD50 over the TD30..... I still like the Natural Sound module... I think this might be a area where Roland is disconnecting from its customers, as I hear the identical comments from others.
Maybe Roland would be wise to offer their latest module (TD50) with plug in expansion which allows the TD30 SuperNatural sounds, and maybe even the TD20X. With newer tech having limitation as to its Wow factor, maybe the best option is to allow consumers to carry along all of Rolands older sounds with their newer modules.
Currently, in order to change from one Roland module to the next, people have to give up their prior module sounds, that they have come to admire. That"s a difficult decision for me personally. I have heard the TD17 and its not something I would be willing to give up my TD15 for... I have equally heard the TD27 and its not so awe inspiring that I would give up my TD15 for it either.
I would however consider a TD27 if... I could bring over my old TD15 sounds... however currently, that is simply not the case. Roland can and should do better for its customers. But there is something in Japanese culture, which thinks eliminate the old and move entirely to the new.... But, my desire as a customer is to have both the old and the new... Both the SuperNatural and the Prismatic... It would be a vast increase for Roland if they would do such with their flagship models as well. Imagine how much better the TD50 would be if it had the capability to be both the TD30 and the TD50 sound and feature wise.
I think consumers would be more than willing to purchase a SuperNatural expansion for their TD50, and the same goes for the TD27 and its ability to add the TD15 and even the TD25 sounds as expansions maybe even all the way back to the TD6V which has over 1000 instruments.
Im off my soap box now...
Uh what drum software would you recommend? I'm running the latest Cubase...I have some vintage kits I bought a few years ago but I bet there's better ones now...;) I just bought the TD50K180 set with the 18"kick ...I haven't opened the boxes yet cuz I'm getting ready to move...lol Gonna add a few of my other cymbals to it..and cowbell trigger..should be nice on it's own but for recording it would be great to have some real good sets to choose from...
wanted to say thanks, you nailed the comparison
As electronic kit player since the 80's (no joke) solely roland for the past 20 years, I avg. 60 -70 gigs a year with this being said dollar for dollar the TD-30 is the way to go, they no longer make this module, it's hard to go against a digital kit in regards to recording but for live it makes no difference and the TD-30 offers more layers and kits then the TD50 Also on a side note making electronic kits the size of acoustic kits defeats the purpose of lighter load ins, and playing in tight places with big sounds so making 14inch snares and 18inch rides absolutely makes no sense whats so ever! you will play the ride and snare the same way weather they are half the size or not.
14 snare feels too big on my electronic set. 12 is fine or smaller even.
i also have been playing electronic drums since the 80's,,simmons,then alesis,and then roland,love my td 30's and i agree that the comparison to ,and the making them larger is silly,,i play a lot of smaller venues and i change kits to match the different genres often during,and the volume control is second to none,,i have also played the td 50's and i wouldn't trade my 30's for the world,,i also do some recordings and again no issues with overtones or over modulations or room noise,i have played for over 50 yrs professionally and i love'em!!!
Hey bro! I know this doesn't have anything about this video, but I have a quick question, I wanted to buy a electronic drumset, I've playing acoustic drums, but I need to have one electronic drum because the noises, I've been thinking about it and what do you think about Alesis strike? Is worth? Did you played it? I've been hearing that sounds awful, but what you get in the box is worth for your money, I'm not a professional but I'm not a beginner either, I don't know how much is gonna bother me the bad sounds that the strike have, but man, that kit looks amazing! I never played one before but it looks that feels really good, in the scale of 1 to 10 what do you think? (And sorry for my English haha)
Oh, and I forgot to mention that I can't spend more than 2.000, that's why I said strike and not the strike pro, because I still need to buy a hi-hat pedal, the throne, etc..
I have a feeling that they're gonna use the "TD40" series as their new mid kit lines.
Like to replace the TD11/15/25/etc.
Hey Justin,
Is the TD 50K hi--hat any different from the TD30KV?
a very honest comparison, Justin :)
I had the money and after extensive research I just can get myself to love the 1 up 2 down and the snare sound of the td-50. It just doesn't sound well with what I like to play. There were only 3 kits I liked (not loved). So I went with the td-30k. I love the sounds of it. Although i still plan on getting Superior Drummer 3 for it. I added another floor tom pad and got the Mackie Thump 18S Subwoofer and the Mackie Thump 12 Loudspeakers, the VH-13 hats, and the Boss FS-6 foot switch. It's currently on the way via UPS Freight. Can't wait for it to get to Puerto Rico. Shipping is way too slow right now.
just wondering....why use a direct box with the drum module to a PA mixer? I'm wondering because I have an old TD10 with expansion, and I'm using the direct outs for each drum pad, and I am running it straight to my mixer via 1/4" cables and everything seems to work and sound fine??
Hey Justin, this may be a total noob question, but if you're planning to use the drum-kit with _Superior Drummer 3_ exclusively, do you still need to purchase the sound module?
I don't know why people who get e drums to trigger software go with the big expensive modules. Something like an old TD9 module for $150 bucks will trigger SD3 just as well
+musicbigz: Ok, but you do need _some_ module then? I mean, there's not some cheaper solution that will only translate the actual drumming to the computer with no build-in sounds at all?
So you'll always need a module of some kind to act as the triggering processing center before the MIDI notes are sent to the computer and the VST software. And the cheaper modules on the market will have slightly less accurate triggering with higher possible latency.
The only way around this would be if they started making desktop computers with full sets of trigger inputs - which I find incredibly unlikely to happen any time in the near future. But they could also make some kind external interface USB device containing the trigger inputs, with no adjustment settings and on-board sounds. Then you would use some kind of included software to adjust the trigger settings. It's actually a pretty cool idea if you think about it.
But for now, the cheapest way you can go down this path would be to get the Alesis Trigger i/o, which is meant for this exact purpose - people that ONLY want to trigger MIDI VSTs. The Trigger i/o is very limited, however, compared to even the most basic drum modules available. It has no on-board sounds and very limited trigger settings/adjustments. It has only 10 dual-zone inputs, and I'm pretty sure it can't handle a variable hi-hat like the Roland VH-11/VH-13 or the Alesis Pro-X. Also, the latency on this thing is not gonna be as good as a Roland or Yamaha module. This is why you're better off finding a used Roland TD-12, TD-20, TD-25, TD-15, TD-11, or a TD-30 if you can afford it. You can even get a TD-8 or TD-10 if you can find one on eBay.
And remember, the latency thing is only gonna be a problem if you're computer is lacking in power and memory. Otherwise, if you're using a Trigger i/o with a computer running something like a 2.8ghz quad-core Intel i7 with at least 8 or 16gb of RAM, you should only have latency in the neighborhood of 7-12 ms. Remember that 12ms is about where most people can start to notice latency and only it becomes an a after about 15-20ms. But if you were to use the same computer with a Roland module (even an older one), you could keep latency down to below 7ms and you would never even notice it.
+Peter Forte: Thanks a lot for your very thorough and informative explanation, Peter. That answered my question 100% :)
While the Alesis I/O may be the cheapest midi interface, it leaves a LOT to be desired. If you are technically inclined and don't mind spending time tinkering with settings as much as you like playing drums, then you should consider the Megadrum. It is designed to work with every analog trigger-based pad, cymbal and hihat out there, including home brew (it will NOT work with the Roland USB digital ride and snare). Megadrum comes in a pre-built 32 input or a 56 input version, and if you are REALLY tech you can even just buy the parts and build it into whatever enclosure or device you want (someone has even built it INSIDE of a cajon). Megadrum has NO internal sounds, you must use it with a VST. It has probably the lowest internal latency of any MIDI trigger, but keep in mind that the latency issue is not so much in the computer itself as it is the drivers and the sound card. So, for really, really low latency with this type of setup, you should consider a quality audio interface like a MOTU or RME.
Excellent review! 🥁
if you dont have a lot of money to blow at one time, what is the best way to slowly build up a drum set over time? also it is easier to convert an acoustic set or to buy roland pads seperately?
I am really glad I got the upgrade package. It is way over priced, so I thought until I spend a few months on it. It is worth the price.
Hi Justin!
This is a timely video for me. I am literally in the middle of trying to decide this question for myself. I actually own BOTH modules (TD-30/TD-50). My kit consists essentially the pads and cymbals of the TD-30KV. So the digital snare and ride pads are NOT part of my decision equation.
I bought the TD-50 first about six months ago, but have been somewhat disappointed in the number of sounds available on it, not the quality of the sounds (they are fantastic) but the selection available. The TD-30 has MANY more choices. There are only 5 snares and 4 tom choices in the TD-50. They sound great, but if those sounds aren't what you're looking for, you're somewhat out of luck even with the ability to load other samples. The imported samples don't have near the amount of editing available and typically don't sound as good as the built-in sounds. So...
I found a good deal on a TD-30 module on ebay and picked one up last week. It has a MUCH better selection of sounds to choose from. They aren't QUITE as good a quality maybe, but still very good. Now I can't make up my mind whether to trade the larger selection of sounds with the TD-30, for the quality of the sounds and the additional features of the TD-50? I really like the dual headphone inputs, 10 channel USB recording, XLR outputs, sample import ability, sample layering, and the new user interface with more jog dials of the TD-50. Essentially I like the sounds of the TD-30 and the features of the TD-50. I am really torn.
And, no, it is not really feasible to export sounds from the TD-30 and import them into the TD-50 as samples. Even if someone was willing to take the time to do so, as I mentioned before, imported samples in the TD-50 are just not as dynamic and playable as Roland's built-in sounds.
But since I do have both modules, I'd be happy to answer any questions anyone might have about both. And if any of you have any compelling logic for which module I should keep I'd love to hear that too. I really can't afford to keep them both.
Thanks!
hi thguy01
I am looking to buy one of them and how much are you selling them for
thguy01, what did you end up doing? I owned a TD30KVS and sold it a few years ago and bought a Gretsch USA custom acoustic set. Now, I'm getting the itch to get another electronic set to allow me to get more practice in and also help with those gigs in smaller venues where the volume of an acoustic set is too much and I'm forced to lay back when playing. Having "stage presence" is important to me so I'm thinking about converting a cheap acoustic set into an electronic set. I'm leaning toward a TD50 module with roland's new snare and ride; but I hear Justin commenting that the sounds of the Pearl Mimic are better. I also need to other percussion instrument sounds from the module I choose, such as bongos, congas and timbales. Your thoughts on TD30 vs TD50 vs MimicPro Modules?
I agree with the points you made. I immediately noticed the 50kv didn't have the double-base, and was missing a tom (which the tom is no biggie for me, but a double base, hell yeah). I'd take the 30kv over the 50kv just for the double base!!! And yeah, I'm definitely buying one of these 2 bad-boys ASAP! Hoping Guitar Center has either in stock!!!
Izzy T do you mean double bass drum pedals?
Who uses two floor toms? i looked really hard for a second floor tom in my vintage drums colours for years just because it was cheap, bad and i liked the looks and could use it as a table but for real to play on it?
How does the Roland td 30 kv compare to the regular Roland td 50? Please help!
Another great video!. My only comment is that you didn't talk much about the snare drum functionality and why that would make certain types of drummers want to buy the set - the major advantage being that you can do cross-stick rim shots with your hand on the drum head, and it will only trigger the side-stick sound.
Personally, I don't do acoustic-style cross-stick rim shots on my electronic snare drum because (1) you can get the same sound just by assigning the rim trigger with a "sidestick" sound, and (2) because I don't see the need to ALSO have a trigger for that sound you get simply by hitting the rim of a real drum. I don't hear that sound in 99% of music I listen to or play my drums to. But for drummers that are very used to doing that traditional cross-stick action on an acoustic kit, who don't want to just hit the rim of the snare drum for the same sound, and/or who also want to preserve that "rim-hit" sound for the actual rim trigger, the USB snare drum could be well worth it. BUT - this is assuming that the digital snare drum is actually tripled-zoned - snare head/cross-stick/rim-hit. Is this true? If not, and it's still only a dual-zone drum, then the only advantage of this ridiculously expensive snare drum is simply being able to do an acoustic style cross-stick. So I personally don't see the advantage of buying this set for the snare drum, or of buying the snare drum separately - especially not for $700! At least not on my current budget.
I recently purchased Roland's BT-1 trigger bar and I'm in the process of setting everything up so that the BT-1 makes a "side-stick," and my snare drum's rim will trigger the "rim-hit" sound, even though I don't really use that sound. So this is almost the same thing as what the digital snare can do, assuming it does in fact trigger 3 different notes. Ya get me?
Currently I use a Hart Dynamics 13" snare drum that supports positional sensing and has an amazing feeling mesh head. I only paid about $250 for it on sale from Musician's friend back in 2012, right before the company went out of business. This thing still looks and plays as good as the day I took it out of the box, and drummers who play my set always comment on how great it feels and how good the triggering is. If this was today, I would buy a snare drum from either Jobecky or Drum-tec, but definitely not Roland.
As for the USB ride cymbal - in my opinion, this is what makes the whole thing worth it. I've owned the TD-50 with the digital ride cymbal and I wish I could have afforded to keep them. Eventually I'd like to buy another TD-50 with the digital ride cymbal, but I only would use it for triggering VSTs. I think the sounds on the TD-50 are a joke. They might have a slightly higher recording quality (i.e. higher bit rate, file size, etc...) but the lack of variety compared to what comes on the TD-30 is a total disgrace. Shame on you Roland, Shame!!
Again - awesome video and thanks for what you're doing.
Justin, if I had the money I’d buy the TD30. My friend Jon has a TD 30 and just replaced the module, snare and ride with the TD50 versions. Roland has gotten fat and lazy and other companies like Alesis and Pearl are coming up fast and ready to overtake Roland.
I've had a roland TD11KV for 8 years, works perfectly fine and sounds brilliant for my weekly gigs. Bought a pearl E-pro for my home and it was so bad i gave it away for free to a friend. So no, Pearl is not going to overtake Roland any time soon or in the distant future.
Thanks a lot. I will buy the TD50k. Can you compare td50k with td50 kv? does KV worth the extra $3k?
Mariana Jaramillo no definitely not. i regret not getting the 50k for 3 grand less. literally the kv just has bigger toms and a better rack. not worth 3k extra trust me
Should i buy Roland td-1kv or not , what is the deference between the td-1k and td-1kv
What kind of “drum software” were you referring to?
There are a lot of different VSTs, but Superior Drummer 3, Steven Slate Drums, Addictive Drums, Ezdrummer, Get Good Drums are all examples
Would you recommend these for apartment practice? I live on the bottom floor and don’t want to disturb my neighbors.
Could you connect the cymbal and snare into your computer directly?
I agree with everything you said but we all know when you buy Roland you buy quality and durability over any other edrum manufacturers
Good review; $7500 yes is a lot of dough to spend for the average player on the TD50KV and the lack of the extra pad should have been included
Hey Justin what would you buy the td 30 or the 50 for $3500 I would love to hear from you ASAP before I pull the trigger!!!!!?????? Or anybody’s feed back is welcome.
Thanks
Did they discontinue the td-30kv? most of my music stores don't sell them anymore....
Question for all. Sorry I’m new to edrums. I see some people using plastic tipped sticks for mesh kits. Is plastic tips better for the mesh kits? Thanks.
I think both are fine according to his other videos. Just make sure they are new and not used on a regular drum set. Any splinters or rough edges can snag and mark mesh heads and cymbals. I personally use nylon tips on my Roland set and they work fine. Also felt kick drum beaters will mar mesh heads. Use a different beater or patch made to protect drum head. Mine is made by Evans.
Can you do a video on td50 line vs the vad line
I own the td 50 kv and dp enjoy it very much. Too much work to switch from the module to drum software and a laptop. Just like to play.
Ok. Hadn’t considered additional software for the module. First time exploring the Roland.
If the 30 cant except samples, but a tm2 does and will mix with the 30, cant you use them on a new preset kit on the 30?
hi 65 drums I was wondering if you know when would the next Roland drum come out
Excellent. Thank You
If I had money, I would never pay 8000 euros for TD-50kv. I'd rather buy shells from Drum-tec with the Mimic-Pro module and ATV cymbals (maybe even aDrums + Mimic Pro), so it would cost less than the over-estimated Roland, and it would look and sound better.
That's completly true, but It depends on the shell pack you buy. Cheaper Drumtec shells cost $1300-$3000. The flagship version is $4000. The mimic is $2200, and a full set of ATV cymbals costs around $1800. So that's $8000. Same price as a TD50kv if you buy the best Drumtec shell pack, $5700 if you buy the cheaper version.
Yep, I was thinking of cheaper versions. For example, the Pro series shell sets are about 3000 euros (about $ 3500), while Diabolo series shells (which is also fantastic) are slightly cheaper than 2000 euros. I hope you will soon have the opportunity to try ATV aDrums, 'cause I can't wait to see your review about this kit. By the way, following your channel I was hooked on electronic drums and I'm thinking to definitely switch from acoustic to electronic. :)
the *main* reason I would want a TD50 is to get rid of the line noise in my mains... I'd love to have those XLR balanced outputs. Prob not worth it though. What can I use to convert my tD30's digital coax out, to XLR, at the last minute, right before the mixer?
You shouldn’t be getting any noticeable line noise. Check for ground loops.
can i buy the td30 kv without the glossy cymbals?
could you buy the td 50 and buy extra rides and use them as crashes so all the cymbals would be decent sized?
Nope because you can't use more than one digital ride at the same time
Drum software? I’m new to e drums.
Use 303 Protectant on all the cymbals and rims. It will protect the rubber from wear and stay shiny for 6 months to a year or more. Check it out!
I have say I would but the td30kv because eventually you’ll want a pearl mimic and you can’t use the mimic with the td 50 digital pads
That's a good point
I have problem trying to set the rim shot or differnt pad volumes on the td30 , where do I find the individual volume sets?
can i upgrade my TD 25 kit with a TD 30 module?
Hey what does drum software mean?
Do you record these in bulk or do them everyday?
Both. But more often, I record and edit a video in a day. The whole process (research, filming, editing) takes 3-6 hours per video.
Oh cool, I wouldve thought that doing recording and editing in a day would be really stressful considering the algorithm nowadays
Well no matter how I do it, this channel is stressful lol, but you're right, batching is better. It's just really hard to film 3 videos at once.
If the sounds are sensors and electronics, what is the relevance of the differences in diameters of cymbals and toms?
+MrKockabilly literally nothing
I like both drumset even the aleisis and pearl drumset
I run 5 toms with 4 up top and 1 floor. Then again I play the crazy metal stuff though.
honestly, if i was to buy a 7 thousand dollar drum set, i would just say fuck it and buy a beast acoustic set, i love electric drum sets and all, there absolutely amazing. but no matter how much software is put into an electric drum, it will never give it that punch that the sound of an good quality acoustic set.
sorry for sounding like an electric kit hater. I just think its a bit pointless buying a drum set that's 6 thousand dollars
Not only that, but I live in a condo. V-drums are basically my only option. I'd get evicted if I had acoustic kit.
Not really pointless, if it you see it as a tool that you are going to use a lot more for practice and gigging than you can currently do with an acoustic kit.
Good electronic kits are way more expensive than great acoustic sets, but I live in the apartment :( If I had my own studio, I would have bought Mapex Saturn without any doubt, so I would have the extra money for a solid used car. But that's not the case with me :( Nevertheless, I'd never spent so much money as is necessary for the flagship Roland set. I would rather choose ATV aDrums with Pearl Mimic Pro
Agree; a top acoustic set will always be better of course no matter how good an e kit is!
fallen prophecy saying it's pointless is like saying it's pointless to buy a laptop that costs 2-4 times that of a PC with same processor, RAM, storage, etc. Different products for different people.
Hi Justin
Do you know if the td 30 is being phased out now..and eventually discontinued?
Oh yes for sure it's being phased out.
The TD-50 does have SOME better sounds, but in the big picture, I think the TD-30 is a better all around drum module. If someone offered to trade me a TD-50 for my TD-30, I would decline.
you should do a review on the pearl MIMIC Pro
Thx
Can i have a second high tom on the td50??
What sucks is Roland discontinued Roland td-30kv so making it much harder to find a set for sell
There are plenty on ebay and reverb.com :)
65 Drums well there’s a lot of the regular Roland to-30k but very few Roland to-30kv PRO
(A little late)
About 00:24
My theory as to why they skipped the TD-40 is due to superstition. Roland is based in Japan, where the number 4 is considered unlucky (same for China and Korea); I doubt that they'd want to use an unfortunate number for a flagship.
Ay Justin, can i import the samples from the td30kv onto the td50kv?
If I had the money , I go with td50 because the sounds are the best ever, the mimic is a sofware and I am blind and the sofware is a shit
You said, "Money is no option"? lmfao
the phrase is "Money is no object".
No object means it doesn't influence your decisions.
Really like the videos though please keep 'em comin'!
Hmmm it feels like you're objectifying the guy in this video ;( ....lol
did anybody notice that he has a few Alexis strike pro in the back (the tombs at least)
???
+damian klaassen those are GoEdrum shells
10 grand.. you give me the 2nd high tom and let me decide if it becomes a side snare roland.
jeez man do you even sleep?
Gotta make those views go up man ;) can't make 1 video a week and stay relevant in the youtube algorithm at the same time
Would rather have second high tom for all that money
Dette er nok den beste lyden jeg har hørt av elektroniske trommesett men i Norge er det så dyre at jeg kan jo kjøpe 2 meget bra akustiske sett for samme prisen av et av Roland sine sett
Man....where's the comparison about the sounds/ instruments / kits available on either models .... big factor issue here as TD-30 has 1000+ whereas TD-50 only 400... but this fact is well hidden from specs , demos, reviews all around ...hmmmm !
Played the TD-50kv several times. If they had only kept the TD-30 sounds and added to it:( The TD-50 has 600 less sounds, and they are not the-bread-and-butter rock repertoire sounds.
That's a good point, most of the sounds aren't the standard rock sounds most drummers are looking for
xp50player I wasnt impressed. Thought td25 sounded better.
td 25/30 > td 50, hands down
the td 30kv looks better
money is no "object". not "option".
I upgraded my TD 20 into the TD 50 but still use gear of my TD 20. Hear on ruclips.net/video/z3Feu1y-27A/видео.html
The 50 sounds like shit. Horrible sounds. 30 is better, mimic is the new king.
Randal Scandal have to agree. Wasnt impressed at all when I played it. Td 25 sounded ALOT better.