Toyota Corolla Automatic Transmission Fluid WS Change
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Toyota states their automatic transmission fluid is a "million mile" fluid which implies that it doesn't need to be changed. So let's find out today if Toyota is right or not.
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Manufacturers call their fluids “lifetime” because it will cover through the warranty. Once that warranty is done, either parts will need to be replaced on your dime or you will buy the newest version of their product. I say change the fluids when needed regardless of what the manufacturer says. Changing a fluid too soon will not hurt your vehicle, but changing too late can cause catastrophic damage and the need for a rebuild.
Well put!
What is too late iyo?
Just for future reference. As a 20+ year service manager. You can't base a fluid change based on color. The dye thats added differs in color and some are browner than others while others have more red dye. Its considered deceptive sales practices and attorney Generals in several states have gone after shops for this.
We can only go by manufacturers recommendation. But I would never trust any fluid for the lifetime of the vehicle.
No such thing as lifetime fluid when frictions are involve.
Heat damages the fluid too not just friction.
But I guess it's the friction that generates most of the heat...
Not trying to create any friction but you have to factor in the shorter lifetime for Stoopid People🫤
My 2005 Avalon was shifting hard at 155K miles. 3 changes, putting back the same amount that came out. I never had the issue again, now my 2012 corolla at 90K miles was running like if it was pulling a trailer and the idle was rough. When I checked the ATF , it was black like almost mud. Such a miracle it was still running, I just did the first change, 2 bottles and 550ml that came out, I replaced it with Toyota WS. Right out of the place where I changed the driving was dramatically different, so much better !
Check trans fluid level with car running and up to temp. Also should shift from P to L to circulate fluid throughout the valve body and other internal trans parts.
The dipstick has a mark for when the oil is cool or when is hot , it does not say to check it while running the engine.
Javier Sanchez ...................SMH
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No but the owner's manual does. How long of a message do you think they can put on a dip-stick? The car needs to be level too.
@@stevensevek6151 I have seen some dipsticks that says" check hot engine idling" don't need to much space for that
@@JavierSanchez-wg6br
So you're assuming that all manufacturers will do the same thing. Assuming is dangerous. Maybe Toyota is assuming that you will know the engine should be running because that's the way it is with most conventional automatic transmissions. Honda is an exception.
Still read the instructions in the owner's manual and a repair/service manual will give you even more information. For example: the hot zone on the dipstick corresponds with a transmission fluid temperature between 158°F and 176°F. The owner's manual doesn't mention that but the service manual does. Your transmission may not get up to that temperature simply by idling the engine until the cold light goes out on your dash because the engine warms up a lot sooner than the transmission. Even a twenty minute drive won't bring it up to that temperature if it's all downhill but if it's all uphill then the transmission will likely go up to 190° . I know this because I have a gauge in our Toyota that reads transmission fluid temperature.
Auto trans fluid needs to be checked with car running. You also need to cycle through the gears when you're changing the fluid to ensure the new fluid works its way throughout the trans and coats all the disks....
There is no way it’s a life time fluid, my corolla at 130000 miles started shifting hard and as soon as I change it every thing went back to normal.
john hana was that the first time you changed the transmission oil? Do you have any problem now, if it was first time you changed?
Tarik Rushiti
Yes it was the first time and have no problems good luck 👍
You’re lucky it was a corolla you did that to.
What about a GM. Lol. thinking of doing it to my Pontiac g6 auto. 115k on it and don't know if it's ever been done
You should have changed it a fifty thousand. .
Hell of a lot cheaper that a replacement transmission !
I have an 09 Corolla with 122k miles and changed the transmission fluid at 86k miles. I read an article that Automatic transmission fluids should be change between 60k to 100k miles.
You should of read your owners manual.
@@jimdavidson5208 I had to comment on this. I started to look more into it and it doesn't mention anything about maintenance to the automatic transmission with regards to fluid change in the 2009 Toyota Corolla owners manual
I just checked for your car. You are correct. NORMALLY that info is IN the manual. I would still change it at 50,000 miles. A fluid change is a LOT cheaper than a new transmission.
@@jimdavidson5208 I don't disagree at all, just annoyed Toyota wouldn't specify it in their owners manual. My concern about the drain and fill is it usually drains only about let than half the full capacity and I've read a lot of stuff that makes me concerned about taking it somewhere to get flushed
@@jimdavidson5208 just change it twice this year it should be good otherwise you can disconnect the return line from your transmission to the radiator and put another line on the radiator with a funnel have a gallon of transmission fluid put the return line into a gallon jug start the car watch the gallon jug fill as your pouring the fresh fluid into the funnel when the gallon is finished turn off the car it should be clean fluid by then it helps to have somebody turn off the car for you
Did this twice on a 2010 corolla 138,000 miles, shifts smoother and getting better gas mileage. Definitely recommend doing it.
Just bought my set off Amazon I’m at 132k miles these cars will last us a long time if we take care of it
I have a 2012 Corolla LE with 170k on it. Changed the trans fluid at 60k, 100k, 120k, and 150k with OEM World Standard fluid. Car runs like new and will probably last me at least 300k.
Hello young man
This is John Chan the fisherman
At the moment my wife and I own five toyt.
I know for a fact a guy bought in to gimmick "life time transmission fluid " , his toyt tundra only got about 175k miles then the truck needs new transmission.
I am 54 years old lawman will retire at 55. I drained and refill my transmission fluid every 30k miles? . My 2007 tundra 5.7 liter has about 190k miles on it. I used my truck to tow my fishing boat, 22 ft every summer. My truck power train runs like new. Well I actually change my transmission oil every year just before boat towing season.
Like your video, thanks
Thanks for the video. I used as reference to drain and fill the transmission fluid on 2003 Toyota Corolla with 230k miles. 3.2 quarts came out and thats what I put back in- bought 4 quarts of Toyota T-IV ATF.
I have a question Jack Larson .
Was it your first time changing the transmision fluid .. Because i have a 2007 toyota camry with 192 ,000 miles and im kind of scared to change it
Very good video. I agree the fluid should be changed about every 50k miles, with filter every 100k miles.
I changed the transmission fluid on my 2015 Camry at 65K miles. Owner's manual states I should use Genuine Toyota WS fluid. Used Valvoline Max Life instead , full synthetic from Walmart for less than $18 per gallon and is WS rated. Transmission is quieter and shifts noticeably smoother. Now has 80K miles. Works for me.
Maxlife is compatible with WS and supposedly generally agreed as a superior fluid. Did you buy it off the shelf? I have noticed you have to order it and pick it up from site to store or have it sent to you with a minimum order.
I do this on my 2008 Toyota Solara 2.4L. Did this at 88k miles, now almost 102k miles and its good as others said. I just go to my nearest Waly Mart and they usually have 5 to 8 stocked, I buy 4.
I just used valvoline maxlife on my accord 2005 and my elantra 2009, both shift noticeably smoother, and Walmart has the atf super cheap to be a synthetic product...
Update: I just did this again at 105k miles and now just passed the 106k miles last week, and still good shifting.
Is it hard to change your own?
Changed my original fluid at 80k. Fluid was black and burnt. I have another brand in now; and with 50k on it, the fluid is still red. There are various brands you can sub for the OEM. I like Valvoline Long Life ATF, but there are many others, that Toyo owners use and recommend.
Thanks, I couldn't find the recommended interval for changing the atf on my Tacoma, I went over to the local toyota dealer and asked them and they told me it never needed changed.. I thought that sounded hinky af too
Valvoline Max Life trans fluid is WS certified, I get it from my local Walmart and 50% cheaper than dealer price!!!
Hey I hope your right about max life just changed mine with it hope u really don't have to use. Oem and max life is ok
Great to know. Keep us updated on your experience.
@@davidmeyer7199 how many miles it have, also you do filter to?
I have 83,000 miles debating on leave it alone or get it done with a filter swap
Did you have to order the Maxlife and pick it up or is it on the shelves still?
@@davidmeyer7199 You don't have to use OEM fluids. Just fluids that fit the spec the manufacturer set out there. Maxlife is better with a robust additive package. Read anywhere on any large Toyota forum and people rave about it.
Over time the Maxlife is synthetic and that's better than conventional. It will break down slower and resist the problems heat causes better and that means longer intervals to change the fluid.
Also of note, changing the fluid will refresh the worn friction modifiers and make the transmission smoother, regardless of brand. Regardless of conventional or synthetic as well. So if you thought Maxlife was the reason for the smoother shifts, maybe, but it was because of the refreshed fluid as well.
Car needs to be running when checking transmission fluid
yep....
If it's over 100k miles change it...the dark old fluid shows both deterioration and possibly metal shavings you got to rub some with your fingers...
Plus you should check fluid look levels while the engine is running...😁
You supposed to check the trany fluid with the car on
It does not say so on the dipstick .
Always check with car running
Only transmission I've ever been told to check with the engine off is a Honda. All other transmissions are to be check with engine on, or running. Trans Oil capacity is 6.9qts or 6.5L. According to the service manual. WS-Type ATF is what toyota uses, replacing it with dexron could lead to premature wear within the transmission.
Yes you are supposed to check an automatic with it running. This could be different, but i doubt it. Also why would you replace the fluid and not change the trans filter or pan gasket??
@@timothysalley6483 --The older Toyota T-lV was Dexron lll. the newer WS is Dexron Vl. It is thinner.
I agree with you: Toyota eliminated the Severe Driving Conditions Maintenance Schedule for the Transmissions. My 2005 Toyota Corolla CE is close to 192,000 miles as I type this, and I am replacing its ATF T IV Automatic Trans. Fluid more or less every 15,000 miles, which is a Severe Conditions Schedule for the Auto. Trans., which is a 4 speed automatic with Overdrive. Last time I replaced its fluid at 187,373 miles Oct. 27 2019 after 21,321 miles of use. The only time I used the Normal Driving Conditions Schedule was the 1st time, when my 2005 Corolla reached 30,000 miles, but after that, I am using the 15,000 miles, more or less schedule, because precisely, excessive heat, too much rush hour traffic, frequent short trips, bad roads and living close to the local beaches in Puerto Rico, salt and dust are too common, and add to that the frequent Sahara's Desert Dust problem, which is also dangerous to our pulmonary system here. The newer 2014-2019 Toyota Corollas, and the 2020, does not have a fluid dipstick to measure the a.t.f. fluid level, which is not good at all, no matter Toyota knows many owners like to do regular maintenance by themselves, but no matter, the new drain procedure is not owner friendly at all: ruclips.net/video/riEDIvXebp0/видео.html; Compare with my 2005 Toyota Corolla, which is described fast as simple: ruclips.net/video/PUEIuDIDHww/видео.html. Once, I heard a know salesman saying, that they prefer the cvt auto. trans. because if not, we will keep our cars . . . Is tough to recognize, that behind all this strange newer recommendations, there might be the dealers desire to have us trade our vehicles soon, and they don't like at all that we do regular maintenance by ourselves. They want to keep selling new vehicles, but is not real for most of the people to buy a new vehicle every 6 to 8 years: that is roughly half the use of an excellent vehicle in reliability, like this Corollas. On Toyota's defense, Toyota do recognize that by replacing the a.t.f. fluid more frequently we can greatly extend the life of the transmission. Even the Rest in Peace Irv Gordon, which was close to 4 million miles on his Volvo since new, recommended better maintenance, and mechanics who saw Mr. Irv Gordon's Volvo, described his engine and mechanics as simple: Today vehicles are not simple at all, but are too complex, and dealers do not like to talk about people who keep their vehicles for many years like Irv Gordon. One, Irv Gordon's Volvo was brought here to Puerto Rico, but there was not even mentioned on the press, only we could see it on the previous main Volvo dealer of the Island. Maybe, because that dealer's was in the process of leaving Volvo as their representative, now the main Volvo dealer is other, there was no promotion, but also, there is no mention about Irv Gordon at the Volvo website. Thanks for sharing your Corolla story.
Oh!! Thanks for this educative review. It has helped save my transmission from breaking. Most manufacturers are misleading us for reasons I find difficult to tell
Changed mine and discovered that it has a second overdrive converter clutch that it never went to before. As a side note, I've used Dexron VI on my Corolla 2009 at 100k. 20k after that it's still loving it. No change in shifting, but better at overdriving, saving some fuel. So 1/10 of a million miles? Yep maybe!
Any fluid that is use with friction material parts degrades over time due to heat . Not to mention all automatic transmission are Hydraulic so yes fluid viscosity changes as it is heated over time so it loses some of it pressure values while in use that is why when you reach over 100000 miles it doesn't shift when cold vs hot days . It's all about the temperatures involved if you race it is degraded much quicker.
Yes, change your transmission fluid. Recommend you read up on how to check your fluid. I believe Toyota wants the motor running and transmission in park when you check it. Best to do it when fluid is hot from driving. Since you can only change a small amount, do about three or four drain and fills for a flush. Do it often enough to keep the fluid looking red and clear which is about every 30-40,000 miles.
The thing is, since some cars have “life time” transmission fluid.people tend to not change it, so if your miles are high and the fluid has never been changed , changing it will most likely cause transmission slippage.
02BMW e46 depend, if the car is over 100k miles with lots of towing or excessive driving habit. Thats correct, dont change it. But if it's about 60k for a small sedan, i dont see why not
Bach Le couldn’t agree more
A specialist told me if its over 150,000 miles only to change half the oil. He said never to flush the tork converter. Those cheap oil places that tell you they flush all the crud and runs better , its only a gimic to get you to pay momey for a service the car doesn't need.
@@vuvu3421 However, Toyotas robust transmissions. On many, there is still about half or so fluid left in the system and not in the sump. Changing it, refreshes about half of the fluid. A good compromise. Forums have said doing a half capacity fluid refresh like I described have never caused transmission failure. However if you are extra cautious. Do the half refresh (sump only drain and fill) and save the old fluid. If there is an issue, you can always put the saved fluid back in after draining it once more. Make sure to have a clean drain receptacle to start with. However. This is overkill. Yes you will still have about 25% new fluid in there left after putting back in the old fluid but like I said, unlikely a drain and fill will cause issues. A whole new 100% fluid refresh could be too much shock to the system all at once. Thus, never do flushes.
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I don't know why you say he put in too much. He checked it with the engine off. If he had the engine running like it's suppose to be when checking it, his reading would have been a lot lower (maybe too low) because fluid would have been pumped into the torque converter.
The reason why Toyota says you should not change the transmission fluid is because overtime transmission fluid varnishes or turns hard on some parts inside the transmission it becomes a working part of the transmission,transmission fluid has high detergent levels and this detergent will strip off that varnish and make the transmission slip. It is better to change transmission fluid every 15,000 miles or so to prevent the varnish from accumulating.
Patty jay can you cite some sources?
Patty jay This is simply untrue! Transmission fluid doesn’t bond to anything as it is a friction modified hydraulic fluid. Transmission fluid has Much less detergency vs motor oil... look it up. It’s a well documented FACT. I hope nobody listened to anything you said because it’s all verifiably false
@Anton Zuykov Lmao!
Erik Tomas Ignore the uniformed post speaking to varnish allegedly promoting longevity. Some of the stuff on RUclips is so blatantly ignorant and false! Varnish is almost nonexistent in modern ATF’s. They really are just that good. Modern additives and base oils have been perfected in the last 5-10 years. Even the semi synthetics outperform the old full synthetic formulas. Varnish is a COSMETIC issue, not a mechanical one that would cause hydraulic issues, followed by transmission overheating and failure. New ATF being introduced into a failing transmission can cause it to fail sooner, but it has more to do with the friction modification of the fluid being dramatically changed (old contaminated fluid produces more friction, and has more clutch material in suspension etc. The new fluid doesn’t have that same mixture along with renewed detergents which can clog the screen of a already failing transmission, plug the valve body, cause the clutches to slip, trans overheats....poof. It’s really that simple
He drained the transmission oil check/ overflow bolt. The drain plug is not shown in the video. Please ignore this video and search other sources.
I just changed mine on my 08 corolla 231k still going strong
Jason Buttera has the transmission fluid been changed before, or this is the first time?
Im not sure if it was ever changed before it was alittle dark when i changed it.
How long you have had your car? How many miles had when you got it?
2 years now. Its got about 239 right now and has about 143 when i got it
@@jasonbuttera1150 Sounds like it was most likely changed if it was only a little dark. Reason I saw is because my corolla at 125k is a little dark (dark red/red mixed with a bit a brown) but it was bright red/pinkish colour when I bought it at 75k.
Change the fluid. Discoloration indicates deterioration of the fluid invariably leading to transmission wear.
Car makers claiming their AT fluid is "lifetime" is such a bucket of horse apples. When the Toyota dealership basically refused to change my fluid when it hit 75,000 miles, I took it to Jiffy Lube. The tech showed me a sample of the old fluid vs. new. Glad I changed it. The car still drives great at over 80,000 miles. What do car makers care if your transmission goes out? If the warranty is out, it's not like you can take them to court.
Valvoline maxlife is ws compatible and and 1/3 the cost
... VALVOLINE FULL-SYNTHETIC MEETS "WORLD-STANDARD SPECIFICATIONS" and is The-Only-Alternative that I have found for Toyota's Transmission Fluid ... Just Check the Compatibility Information on the Back of the Valvoline Transmission 1-Gallon Jug ... It clearly states that it is Compatible with Toyota's "WS" World-Standard ... This is again, the Only-Alternative that I have found, and I use it when I change my Corolla's Transmission Fluid, every 50,000-miles ...
Great informative video here and spot on! I have a 2009 Corolla since new and almost hitting 300,000 miles now. Have done very consistent 5000 mile oil changes with synthetic most of the time. Also flushing the engine cooling system every other year. Using marvel mystery oil every third oil change as an additive. Have done a great majority of the miles in the first 200,000 on highway and the one area I was delinquent on was the transmission service which I did at 200,000 miles pulling the pan replacing with the OEM filter and gasket and using of course factory fluid. Drained and refilled twice again at 230,000 miles and at 275,000 miles. Transmission smooth shifting as new. 👍
Which grade 5w30
@@ariesco7468 hello, just hit 300k mi on Corolla. Always 0W-20 in winter and 5W-20 in warm months. Using higher visc oil is actually not good as it can hinder the proper functioning of the VVT-i system. Those are some mighty small passages and the VVT-i thimble sized filter screens are very fine mesh and so critical to keep to proper viscosity.
It's recommended that no matter what anything past 60k you should change trans fluid doesn't matter what kind of car be it dip stick witch you can change yourself or measured without dipstick, and I would suggest. A watching a video on how to do before you do it that go's for anyone live long and prosper .... .
You are smart. I change mine, and I used to work for Toyoa R&D. Toyota ATM fluid is made by Petrochemical and only available through Toyota dealers. What makes me mad is that TMUSA does not recommend a preventative maintenanc schedule for their vehicles.
Nice video! I think best ti change Trans fluid every 40- 50K miles, then at 100K, remove pan and old filter.
My 2007 Camry v6 173k original transmission fluid I’ll test the theory, I’ll keep you guy updates on the miles.
sky nguyen me too 2007 lexus gs350 with 215k
My 06 went 320k original and my buddy's Ford update me how u do im curious I believe it's risky changing fluid
Well you may make it to 250,000 but will you make it to 350,000?
Life is 25 yrs according to a judge when sentenced but 60k - 80k i would do it really...BUT car manufacturers do advise things for a reason BUT for normal use yes towing or under load..? They say changing the ATF removes all the goodness in the oil,if you know what i mean as Scotty mentioned i'm sure in his video.
It replenishes the additive package of ATF. That’s a good thing. Now if the transmission is wasted and on its last leg, well that’s a different story all together
I have a 2016 Toyota Corolla with 37,500 miles. I am going to have the transmission fluid changed at 50,000 miles because i want it to last a long time!!
If you read your Service Manual closely its recommended under "severe" to change the transmission fluid every 60k miles. I personally change mine out every 50k along with my rear differential fluid. That equates for me about every 3-4 years of driving. Samething with their LONGLIFE coolant, i change that every 50k miles as well.
Too keep it running forever, change the fluid often. I change it every 50,000 miles and use 2.5 quarts. Did you ever replace the filter.? I am at 155,000 miles and never replace the filter yet. I heard it's not needed since I change it every 50,000 Miles. Thanks 👍👍👍
Thanks for the video. Didn't know training the fluid was so easy. Just bought a 2010 Toyota Corolla 1.8 4 cylinder. A mechanic who works at Toyota dealership recommends you change the oil every 60,000 miles. My car has $189,000 mi on it. Don't know if the owner ever changed the transmission oil. The transmission shifts very smoothly. How can you tell if the transmission oil needs to be changed?
If unsure, then just do it.
dude, you need to check the fluid level with the car at operating temperature because as the fluid gets up to temperature it expands.
Ikr checking cold isn't accurate at all for most cars. I always check mine after it gets to the operating temp and engine running like manual says.
@@RSGAEL
Exactly. After all how cold is cold? In Death Valley the ambient temperature may be well over 100°F in the summer and -40° in Alaska in the winter. That is a huge difference. But "hot" means at operating temperature. The Toyota service manual defines that as between 158°F and 176°F but the owner's manual makes no mention of that because Toyota knows they failed to put a transmission temperature gauge in the vehicle. A certified Toyota mechanic knows they can read the temperature with their Techstream software.
Hi there,
Can you tell me how many miles were in that 2010 Corolla? I have a 2010 automatic Corolla with 140k. Trans fluid never changed. Do you think it will start slipping if I change it? The color of the fluid on the dip stick is brownish.
Thx
Dealers Don't know everything about your driving habits !!!
Change the fluids on regular maintenance schedule ..
That's how you get life out of a Vehicle !!!
No 2 The Dealer Gary ...
That's my opinion...
Sounds like car shield claims saying they got your back on everything, however dealing with moving parts and lubrication that's bullshit not changing transmission fluid.
I changed it at 127,000 miles on my 2013 Corolla.....my transmission that is. Read into that what you will regarding changing the "lifetime" fluid.
Darker fluid just means there is particulate in suspension it isn't really appropriate to say contamination unless it's fluid contamination, like water getting into the case. Fluid can only take so much particulate into suspension before it loses it's viscosity and stops protecting parts like bearings and gears, lifetime fluid isn't a legal jargon because they aren't clear about what lifetime is, is it lifetime for the fluid (making the phrase completely meaningless) lifetime for the Transmission (because you can always throw a new transmission in there) or lifetime for the Car itself (which can be an epicly long time). I don't see the need to do this, when you can just have the customer come in and get their fluid changed super simple and quick and the shop makes $100 from the service simple as that
I agree with most what you say, except that you say the the fluid (oil) will lose viscosity. No, the oil will NOT lose viscosity, it just can get too dirty to function properly. The viscosity does not change.
Well I was told that Toyota dealership in Canada said after 130,000 kilometers of driving you need to change it so it is recommended to change the transmission oil.
You all realise you only change about half the trans oil like this right?
Torque converter holds another 2 or 3 litres.
At what mileage did you do this fluid change?
Ex Toyota mechanic recommends changing the Trans fluid at least every 60,000 miles (and earliest every 30,000 miles as there needs to be left enough debri in the fluid to allow enough friction for the mechanics inside not to slip).
Scientifically speaking, as transmission fluid ages it breaks down leading to less resistance to heat.
Always good to have fresh tranny fluid in the vehicle unless Toyota magically made some super awesome stuff
Toyota doesn't even make transmission fluid.
The transmission fluid does NOT 'breakdown'. It can just get dirty. The viscosity does not change.. Dr. Fauci aka Mr. Science😅
I had a 2007 toyota yaris with 364,000 miles. Never changed the trans fluid
What a surprise. Never changed the power steering, coolant or brake fluids either.
don't do it now! not unless you want to replace the tc also.
smaaaaal week engine :) giving time to trans
Toyota quality!
My 2010 LE Japan built manual states that drain and fill quantity should be 2.6 Qts ( 2 qts 19 ounces). I'm going to do the service and see if that is accurate. Will be measured at the end of the drain process. (Something you probably should have done). I bought 3 qts from my local dealer. The parts guy said it should be enough. I played with the idea of buying the Aisin WS at Summit for 10 bucks a quart, but the dealer only charged 11 bucks for the Toyota fluid. We'll see how it turns out.
Lmk how it goes.
My Toyota dealer told me the same thing that it was lifetime fluid. I told them that's only if you don't want to keep your car for years. They told me they could change it for $475.00!! What. I got some other estimates and the highest i was quoted was $139.00. No thanks Toyota!!!
Here in Canada my RAV4 came with a booklet for ATF service intervals unlike the US RAV4 that didn't include it. That debunks the whole notion not to change it. Toyota really like to screw around and this is not good in the long run for their business. And yes it says not to change the ATF on the dipstick also. If you are not knowledgeable in car maintenance and don't change your ATF then it will eventually fail if you keep it long enough. Don't trust car manufacturer as they do anything to help sell their car. (ie Volkswagon EMSISSION SCAM)
Its your money so keep your car in top shape and learn how to maintain it.
Very well put ! Doing a PM will save you from sitting on the side of the road .
To make fluid move you have to move transmission not the engine
You idiot what do you think the torque converter is doing while the engine is running ?
The engine spins the converter which also spins the hyd pump in the transmission, whitch circulate the fluid !
Just caint fix stupid !
In Middle East Toyota recommends to change it every 80,000 miles and if it's not recommended by Toyota to change the fluid then why they are selling the fluid and filter as well and there are 2 magnets inside the pan that have to be cleaned and filter needs to be changed compulsory so shifting will be smoother
Chris fix explained this very well...changing and flushing is two different things..
Well, warranty is up to 60k Miles 6 years. so it means after warranty expired, you change it. Because, lifetime means until warranty expired. Although you probably have no problems to 200k + miles without fluid change as long as no towing or climbing uphill a lot.
Lifetime fluid is just advertising hype. As the transmission runs, tiny bits of metal wear off. If you * NEVER * change the transmission fluid, these super small bits of metal circulate and wear on whatever parts they run into.
You definitely need to change the transmission fluid. You are wise, grasshopper.
My car is a 2004 Corolla, and the transmission fluid is Type T-IV, and the IV is a 4 in Roman numbers, just to be old fashioned about it. Surprise, no one sells a whole gallon of Type T-IV.
It turns out the folks who make transmission fluid wrote a specification for this, it's called JWS-3309, which describes the minimum stuff that transmission fluid for my little Corolla is supposed to have. So any transmission fluid that meets specification JWS-3309 is good. And Castrol Transmax DEX/MERC Automatic Transmission Fluid sells for a mere $13.52 for a whole gallon. It's cheaper to buy a gallon, instead of several quart bottles.
Yes, change the fluid. Hang on to that Corolla for as long as you can because many new cars don't have a trans dip stick and Corollas have a CVT.
I am a rideshare driver with 154000 miles on my 2016 CVT Toyota Corolla LE, no issues at all 🤷♂️👀
I just bought a low mileage 2013 Corolla. Last year before the CVT. Best Corolla ever. CVTs are garbage
Good job buddy.. yes change your fluid every 30k. I have 06 tc scion and 07 Honda accord always changes that fluid. Life time fluid is a. Bu....
measure how much came out put the same back in, also you need to measure it with the engine on
Good to know regarding checking fluids while the car is on.
Not with the key on but with the engine running.
He does not mention the drain plug seal that is to be replaced when the drain/refill is done. The drain plug seal may be damaged or left off when the plug is installed again and allow leakage of ATF.... can get very expensive!
How much years do Toyota refer to “lifetime “?
My car is a 2014 Toyota Camry, it started with a jump in the transmission at 25 miles per hour and it also shuddered at 40. This transmission does not have a dipstick and I bought three quarters at my parts store and I made the change and added it. a lubegard shudder fix. resolved for a few months, then the same thing started again. I did another fluid change and added another lubegard and it just got worse. my car sometimes felt like drowned and heavy so I decided to flush the transmission and by mistake I added toyota t 1v fluid instead of the ws that would be the one recommended by toyota and added a lubegard shudder fix also, my car is now running like new and has 167 thousand miles, I am not sure what would happen if I had used ws, but I am sure that it could not run better, my advice always use toyota fluid, some say that t1v is thicker than ws, perhaps it is the cause for the one that my car improved so much
There's not such thing life time trans oil because that's just the life of trans that the oil would last but in some cars we don't know how long would trans last usally, better to change them at prefered manufacturer specific, and if not sure when to just change if if its dark.
Do you change the transmission filter as well? Should you change the fluid when they are black. I mean some said when they are black, flushing can cause damage and the idea probably do not let it go black. Any idea that you can share?
I agree with you, the transmission fluid should be changed. I have a 2013 with just under 70k miles and I want to change the fluid soon before it gets too old. Should I change the filter too? What do you think?
If its not leaking can you fill up what you drained out so if 4 liter comes out you can add 4 bottels? Or is it better to look at the dip stick
You should drop that pan and change the filter as well.
I did it recently. Didn't record any video though.
Definitely have to change the fluid often
I have a Toyota Alphard and I change mine every 20K as its easy just one bolt, A$35 only
I change my engine oil every 5K and oil filter every twice oil change again only one bolt
the gear oil is from normal oil company ATF don't need to buy Toyota as its not cvt
My Alphard had now done 160K and still drives like a dream only 3 blown bolts within these milage
on the 3rd front pads new rotors recently that's it
I prepare to challenge 500K and over
I believe with Europeans that is never achievable
I did all work myself and I only know little apart from turning a spanner
2010 Corolla 1.8L owners manual says 6.9 quarts of transmission fluid. You drained all the fluid but used only around 3.5 in the video. Why the difference ?
There's still fluid inside. This wasn't a full flush.
I’m originally from Fresno ... but up in Lake County today .... feels like Fresno, but No Air Conditioning ..102 degrees!
It looked very dark i would of changed it good call
Scottie said if not problem don’t fix it lol
To actually check the fluid level correctly you need to after adding what you took out get motor to operation temp and in doing so while E Brake engaged circle through he park 1st Neutral etc, then put in drive and check hot fluid level. Again PUT THE PARKING BRAKE ON and Chock all tires! K done ✅ with the safety brief but 👍🏼
we should change the fluid for sure
Do a Car History on the Toyota Celica and it GT-FOUR variant please!!!!
Thank you for sharing it, but how many miles in your ODO?
I do a drop and fill on my 98 Accord V6 280k+ miles every other oil change approx. 14k mi. using Valvoline Import fluid.. Works good for me! DW-1 gave me a sloppy shift.
Nice easy job, but I would have changed the transmission filter as well.
Not if it has high mileage. You Do NOT Want To Change The Filter!
Depends on definition of "lifetime" or "lifetime of ..."
Hi GT, there are some people/articles saying that you should let your car idling while checking the fluid level. What do you think about that?
By the way, I did change my fluid on yaris using the exactly same method as you described in this video and drive the car around 22k km. So far so good.
As I checked the level again while letting the engine runing, I found that the fluid level is now far below cold level. When you off the engine, the level will gradually back at a level between cold and hot.
Any thoughts? Thanks
Just check your owner's manual... Duh.
i went over 300k orig fluid and same on my toyota my buddy ford and lexus I wonder how many miles others went with orig fluid? My new car i'm gonna leave it a lone i keep hearing people go into past 300k plus with oriinal fluid its pointless changing it it can do more damage if any little mistake . big contreversy
Hello, I hope you can still help me with this. I have a Toyota Corolla 2010 Automatic but I can't find the refill cap. There is no dipstick at the area where you refilled it with new oil. Any Idea where I could find it?
Thanks for sharing this video with us however my question is, I didn't heard made mention of changing the filter, please us why.
In order to change the filter, you'll have to remove the transmission pan to get to it.
We have to buy it? You think so? Who makes the transmission? What do you think of using Aisin brand ATF?
Toyota (aisin) transmissions are very picky with respect to fluids required. For this specific generation of transmission WS or any WS approved fluid will suffice.
what you need to do is send in that oil for analysis....color changed doesn't necessarily mean it is bad, I have 200k on my current vehicle and never have to change transmission fluid. If you dont trust them in the first place, then dont buy their car, but if you do, then have a little trust.
Toyota is not the only company that says Transmission oil are a lifetime.
Guess there is no harm in changing the fluid from time to time as often as you want, it is a great outdoor activity anyway and makes you feel good doing it.
What worries me the most is the draining/fill bolt, since it is not changed that often, it can seize if forcefully removed.
Also I believe a little smear of anti-seize compound onto the bolt threads would be a great idea.
@John Smithy Just had the ATF changed today by Mobil 1 express lube today with oem fluid. I am pleased to tell you that none of the bolts was frozen in there.
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Really! Mobil Express Lube stocks Toyota OEM WS fluid?
@@njsongwriter Yes they do, at least for the ones in Vancouver Canada.
While we are arguing the existence of lifetime ATF, we need to keep in mind we are taking the following for granted now:
-lifetime chassis lube
-lifetime(sealed) wheel bearing
-lifetime CV joint grease(yes there used to be a recommended grease repack interval)
And how long do CV joints last? How long do wheel bearings last? ball joints steering knuckles that all use to have freeze fittings and don't anymore. That's not the question. The question is How long do you want them to last? If the answer is as long as possible, especially the expensive things like the engine and transmission then guess what you need to do... Change the fluids regularly.
I also using automatic in my toyota car...at the 35.000mile i want to change the automatic oil transmision but the dealership say the oil is a lifetime oil and there's no need to change it, but i still change it anyway and im glad that i do the changing cause the oil is black!! Its your car...if it aint broke and you keep using the car from where the dealership will get a profit
thanks for sharing your video. big help.
did you drain fluid when engine/transmission in operating temperature or cold ?
thanks
Drained while cold.
never mind, I figured it out, thanks!
Thank you for this great explanation video!
A analysis of the oil would be best to see if there are any destructive substances.
I should drive my 2008 Solara and have you look at it...you’re a good guy!