Dogs establishing rank and dominance, posturing behaviour to avoid conflict
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Watch as this German Shepherd and Husky ( both bitches ) establish superiority and deference within a few moments of communication using only low vocals and posturing. Dominance depends on how you interpret it. Using the term dominance as an excuse to use physical punishment in a bid to establish leadership or becoming the pack leader is a complete misunderstanding and misuse of the concept. Dominant dogs project a presence and in most instances do not resort to fighting. Their ritualised displays are understood and accepted by other dogs and generally avoid conflict. Suggesting that the use of physical force towards a dog is interpreted by that dog as you being dominant, or alpha, or the pack leader is absolutely ludicrous. Unless you look like this ^^^, sound like this, move and smell like this - In fact, unless you ARE this ^^^, then your most likely outcome through the use of physical 'dominance' is a fearful avoidance/submission caused by confusion in the dog. Jamie penrith take the lead dog training
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Notice how the brown dog avoided eye contact.
Wow.
Wow. This was an incredibly strong example of how dominance is sorted out.
Yup
Very true - I see this posturing very often in my dog - and never resorts to conflict :)
To me it shows one dog needs anger management therapy (jk), amd another dog is intelligently, patiently putting up with the other's idiocy. People are the same way.
It's in their nature, it was very important to let the strongest genes survive.
This played out very well! They both made it clear that black was dominant and the brown would submit to black dog.
Those are made up words to assert dominance over your mind.
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This is so interesting....
Dogs are pretty amazing - they are definitely pack animals so all those dog owners who isolate them don't deserve to own one.
Terry Terry this is not dominance notice how in the end they start playing.
My two huskies do this. Luna is the boss she has been with me for 3 years and tsunami the new member does as she says. I allowed her to say she’s boss after me because when I’m not home she makes sure tsunami doesn’t bite my shoes or grab things she’s not suppose to. I agree with you that they are pack animals. Right after my huskies fight they play tag with each other in the yard. The raise in the tail the husky did is to prove she is still alpha dog and the German Shepherd had no eye contact the entire time because he knows.
Studies show dogs aren't pack animals and they don't think they're alpha, here's an article proving this point. Dogs are not on a quest for world domination. They are not socialized wolves who are constantly striving to be ‘top dog’ over us, and they are not hard-wired to try and control every situation.
Contrary to what traditional training ideologies and much modern media would have you believe, most canine behavior problems stem from insecurity and/or a desire to seek and maintain safety and comfort - not from a desire to establish higher rank and be the ‘alpha’ over you.
Therefore, teaching dogs ‘who’s the boss’ by forcing them into some mythical state called ‘calm submission’ is precisely the opposite of what they actually need in order to learn effectively and overcome behavioral issues.
Much of this misunderstanding stems from the erroneous application of early studies of captive wolf packs to our understanding of the dynamics of our domestic dogs. There are two problems with extrapolating those wolf pack studies onto dogs:
1. Dogs and wolves are in fact quite different species.
and
2. The results of those studies have since been disproved by the very scientists who conducted them.
Despite this, terms such as 'alpha dog,' 'top dog,' and 'pack leader' have become part of our society’s readily accepted and commonly understood lexicon. Interestingly, when used to describe human concepts of leadership and rank hierarchy, these terms can indeed be useful and usually pose no problem. But issues begin to arise when we ascribe these concepts to our domesticated dogs, assuming incorrectly that dogs place the same value as we do on the practice of identifying who is of higher rank in any given situation.
Resisting the urge to assign our human insecurities onto how we believe our dogs think and feel is a prerequisite to being able to understand and build truly balanced and healthy relationships with our dogs.
Our Australian Sheepdog rescue mix was the alpha female over our pitbull female rescue. And they never had a problem.
How did she assert her dominance?
That steely eyed gaze was to say "don't f*** with me, your my b****"
Though, this DOES sometimes end in conflict when tension becomes to high.
True but dogs by nature prefer not to resort to violence to resolve conflict. A lot of times owners do not train their dogs properly, and/or they don't allow dogs to resolve their problems so they get pent up.
Dominance has been bred down in dogs? Really! So instinct counts for nothing?
Walking packs of dogs daily I see dominant behaviour a lot.
Also as silly as the TV vet saying we won't have to train dogs as selective breeding will make them born trained!
It does not need to be bred down since it is not here to begin with.
I won't write an essay but the initial study showing hierarchy dominance in wolves is debunked, the autor of the book that popularised the idea in the 60's (David Mech) said himself that this theory doesn't hold any kind of value, and that wolves packs are actually families with a family hierarchy and no wolves in there wants to go up or down the ladder.
@Avery Holt Haven't seen too many feral dog packs have you. Or working sheep dogs for that matter. Some breeds have been selectively bred to have high levels of co-operation with humans but not all. Spend a day with an Azawakh in open country and see how dependant on humans they are.
@Avery Holt have you never seen a border collie? Saying dogs are stupid is ridiculous.
@@jmas1219 theres a book called the other end of the leash by Patricia McConnell that explains that some pack animals (hyenas it might have been from memory) will work together in packs when prey is abundant but when food is scarce they will separate and go scavenge alone. The same has been seen in wild dogs. Its a matter of opportunity.
Also the guy above that said pack hierarchy was debunked is correct in that the original writer regretted what he wrote but since there have been newer studies at yellowstone ect saying pack hierarchy has been seen. The 2 so called alphas are there to protect the pack, find the food, scare off predators. They do work as a team in this but the 2 leaders make the decisions. Otherwise there would be chaos.
@@lyndseyanne4022 Very true.
Sometimes little dog does this to a bigger dog. Friend had a submissive rottweiler and a dominate pug. The pug would do the same thing to the rottweiler even jump up on his back and give him little nip remind him who was boss. Dominance and submissive dogs it's in the brain not the body.
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Great video clip showing dogs communicate to each other but do dogs practice domination? I believe not. because dominance happens in the wild with the wild animals. Dominance has been bred down in dogs. We have been misinformed about dogs and domination.
Saro Boghozian we have been misinformed about dogs and cross- species domination .. But not intraspecific dominance.
Every social species on the planet operates according to domination and subservience - Threat and acceptance.
We are no exception!
Such a false statement! Do you think dogs don’t have instincts? Us bringing them into our homes does not mean this behavior is gone! We just manage it. I am raising a wild puppy right now in my home. So please tell me why I should just ignore this wild puppies instincts?
haha such as dumb argument
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if this went to a confrontation the dominance would change quickly to the german shepherd.
I doubt it in this specific case. This Husky is close in size to this GSD, and huskies are more agile, more athletic, and have a stronger bite force. My Husky Storm (RIP) always dominated my sister's GSD. Once she tried to take food from his bowl after finishing her own, he literally shoved her to the ground and stood on one of her ears until she gave up.
@@Spr1ggan87 lol
@@M00_be-r brother just accept the fact a husky with a alpha mind will be really mess.
"Dog fans" lol. "If the circumstances were this and that this wouldve happen" Obviously not.
@@Spr1ggan87no dude the working line shepherd is another level they are extremely dominant and when they fight they don’t stop fighting until it’s over I own both and he’s a husky is dominant but not as the working line gsd😊
Look at the GSD face its huge with a mouth full of teeth. If this continued the husky would learn just who is dominate. Looks like husky said ok chief im out.
in this case the Husky husky proved dominant towards the GSD, who avoided his eyes.
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this is not dominance merely a case of aggravation and then one being reminded.
Awsomegirl X4 the husky was showing who was boss. Notice how the german didnt look at her straight on? She didnt want to challenge her. She avoided looking at her
what are you talking about? that was complete dominance, in the way the husky literally took the time to come back around and size the german up until it was disinterested.
So many words to say dominance, rank, pack.. some people cannot except the existence of such structure.. what is aggravation in dog communication anyway?
In order to remind one dog it’s limitations one has to be the dominant one
@@toriv3623 Which dog called off. Yep it was Husky. Its can be explained this way GSD IS SMARTER AND BETTER TRAINED.
Such a bullshit. These dogs do not establish "ranks" that are a myth of stonaged dogtrainers. 😂
This movie shows the typical Dogparks crazyness :disharmonic groups of strange dogs that definitely don't form a "pack" :these same-sex dogs have conflicts over resources. Even space and time can be a resource. You should learn basics.
It's funny how this is dominance, but if the dog would have bitten it is not? As you wrongfully explain in the bio? IMHO you don't know what you are talking about. Dominance is about forcing someone, or something to do your bidding, and that is with force if needed. If the dog does something really bad, and you don't punish him hard enough, which means he stops immediately after, it means your dog didn't get the message. Do this enough, and your dog will try to dominate you by growling, humping and claiming stuff and even you... If the GSD here would try to dominate the dominant husky, we all would know what would happen, because the GSD knows what will happen, he doesn't take the risk of dominating the husky. If the husky would be weak, like you most likely are, than the dog WOULD go for dominating because he senses your weakness, and in his world that means you are NOT PROTECTING HIM, which is the most important for your dog, he wants to feel save! Stop trying to be a RUclips dogtrainer and get a real big masculine and dominant dog if you really want to learn something. This video is the same as the 20y old dogtraining RUclipsr with a Rottweiler trying to explain why he gets bitten by his dog lol.... You shouldn't get bitten, not even once, doesn't matter what you do, doesn't matter if your dog likes it or not, the boss is not being bitten by his followers. If you are getting bitten, you are doing everything very very very wrong, and IMHO you should give your dog to some1 who knows what they are doing, and even pay them for fixing your dog.
rubbish