How Professional Hollywood Editors Set Up a Timeline - Video Editing Tutorial
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- Опубликовано: 6 дек 2018
- In this tutorial we'll be teaching you how professional Hollywood editors arrange their timelines for optimal workflow. We'll show you where every piece of media should go from V1 through V9, all the way to A1 through A17.
It might seem overwhelming at first, but there are many benefits to having an organized timeline whether it's for your personal project or collaborating with a team.
Disclaimer: The perfect timeline will vary based on your specific situation. This tutorial will give you a solid starting point and once you understand some best practices we encourage you to tweak and modify your own timeline to perfectly fit your needs and style.
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I’ve always asked my self why so many movies have sooo many layers... it makes way more sense now
It's called clean organization. That's all.
Ever since I decided to learn video editing I wanted too see a video like this.
You show the "Big picture" of an edit in a great way, and you managed to do it in just under 7 minutes.
This is really great, thank you for making this video!
Ilia Chulsky - absolutely I’m glad you found it helpful!
Basicallly the big picture of movie making in general is being super organized. Everything needs to fit somewhere, so that anybody who works with you can find what they will be needing. This is why we use claps in movies- so we can identify the shot. When ingesting all the footage into the computer, you should rename every file so on and on. That is usually the most shittiest part of the job, but you are so happy if it is done, because you can find everything right away. It is actually pure logic. Like in your kichen. Forks with forks, Pans with pans. Spices with spices. And all well organized.
i dont know but also your editing of this video is insane... not only i love you explain but i also incredibly love how you show us everything 1 by 1 also that audio glitch example is so great...
Thank you so much - very glad you enjoyed it!!
Thank you so much! I've been editing for some time now and always wondered why there are so many layers in Hollywood projects.
It makes sense having your workhorse clips on four separate tracks for adding effects. Thank you!
As an editor trying to break into animation editing this was so helpful. Thank you
Finally RUclips algorithm proving to be useful. Love this channel 🫶
I love how straight to the point this is. Thank you.
Did you find this video helpful? Have any timeline tips of your own? Let us know!
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If I could, didn't see this asked in the comments. But what would the purpose be for the matte later regarding aspect ratio? If that's just adding in letterboxed bars and such, isn't that discouraged now? Shouldn't we be exporting at the aspect ratio we want, not adding in those boxes? Was this just an out-of-date suggestion, or something that's still routinely done now? Sorry, I found this really helpful regarding organization, I just didn't get the purpose of a layer dedicated to a matte box like that.
@@MichaelSheridan it really depends on the specific situation but often for screening purposes the matte is useful to at the very least hide otherwise distracting bits like timecode and other burned-in onscreen data
@@FilmEditingPro Ah, gotcha, okay. Appreciate it.
Wow, I got overwhelmed everytime I see a snapshot of Holywood film timeline, but you managed to explain it very well. Great tutorial.
Excellent!!
Absolutely fantastic explanation. Clear and concise!
As a sound editor, I'd like to point out that we vastly prefer splitting mono and stereo tracks even if your nle can handle mixed formats. When you send us an omf or aaf, every audio track gets duplicated in annoying, unpredictable ways when mixing channel counts in The edit. Pretend you're working on an avid even if you're not and the person working on audio assembly will love you.
I remember back in 2008 when I learned editing, we've been told: Mono is gold. Mono is the only truth. I wonder if it still is that way. Like I mean... why would you ever wanna work with stereo? This is something I yet have to learn.
@@Leprutz it is gold. The are some good reasons for stereo - music, designed effects, and ambience do quite well in stereo. Though consider flipping designed effects channels.
@@Leprutz by the way, almost every sound effect not in the above categories will, in my experience, be made mono by most mixers. For me and I'm sure many others, if we're given a stereo effect we're likely to just trash the left or right side and but the one we kept in the center. Other sounds that we are likely to keep width intact for: certain impacts, debris sweeteners, explosions, anything big (though we also have a separate mono element available if it needs to pan, so you keep the width but also get movement)
@@petersrin7016 But basically you say Mono is still the golden rule right? That is what I thought. Though I will need to learn a bit more about editing stereo though. Thanks for you reply.
@@petersrin7016 Cool yeah ok.... So basically the way I usually have been taught and working so far. Thank you for clarifying.
Incredible video my good sir!! Amazing!!
I’m so grateful for your work please keep it coming
We will! 👍
it's insane these resources are free. appreciate it a lot. i'm a musician and audio engineer learning all sorts of shenanigans about video editing. cheers
Glad you like them!
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Thanks for sharing this great video. Keep up your great tutorials.
Thanks Bunsim - we'll keep them coming!
this is really a great breakdown!
Chadwick Family Films very glad you found it helpful!
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i liked this video , it was awesome , grateful , and learn me a lot of things by the editing
This was a 10/10 tutorial
Super helpful. Many thanks!
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Great Explaining. Thanks For The Video 🥰
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Well done , i love the editing of this video
This was helpful. Thanks Again
You're very welcome!
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that was insanely good, thanks a lot.
Thanks and you’re welcome!
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Great tutorial, thanks!
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OMG .... waiting for this type of videos .... sometimes I just want to expand my timeline by creating titles in two lines .... feel so small with this !!!
Very useful thanks.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching
Thank you
this video is empowering
Ha, that's pretty cool because the system I created for myself is pretty much the same. It definitely \is\ the most comfortable for serious projects.
For audio I use a similar system. I have tracks for each key character, a few tracks to put side characters voices, one for music and several for foley. I love when everything is clean and understandable in s sequence though it's a hella lot of layers by the end of the editing process, haha.
Thank u so much 🙏
Great! Thanx..
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I just got the soft soft , man tNice tutorials tutorial is perfect
This is so good and useful thank you keep doing it
Thanks! We'll keep 'em coming.
@@FilmEditingPro May I ask have you ever worked with Davinci Resolve? If yes what do you think of it? Why is Hollywood still using Avide Media Composer mostly? It's been a while I haven't touched it so I do not know what updates it has gotten but it sure seems like a very outdated and archaic system. But I might be completely wrong.
Stephane Gregory Dan we use primarily avid and premiere for editing and davinci for color and grading. For individual users looking to maximize workflow speed and compatibility with other programs (specifically AE, Photoshop and Audition) Premiere really makes life easy.
@@FilmEditingPro Not for me. I hated Premiere since the first day I used it back in 2006. Haven't touched it since. But I wanted to actually know if the last Avid update did change the Softwar quite a bit or not? Cause last time I used it still felt archaic and oldfashioned, as well as counter intuitive. Not saying it is a bad thing, but for me editing on Media Composer was really hard back in the day.
@@FilmEditingPro Thanks for your reply though.
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nice all matery is important to know, iam film editing since 2007 , but this materi still woth it to know and learn how to edit film with the way true
Congratsfor the video!
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What CPU and GPU do professional video editors usually have as there go to? I doubt that they choose their systems based on the budget of the client??
this was awesome. I learned a lot from this. I just set up my template just like this. The last 3 audio tracks... are they called "stems"? I have no need for them at this level of the game but I might as well set up things correctly from the beginning.
This was so so helpful! Thank you for such an informative video. I had one question: Is it the job of the film editor to add the sound effects like folley, roomtone etc. to the timeline before the mix is fine-tuned and mastered, or is that something that comes under the domain of the sound editor? An answer would be really helpful T_T I have an exam coming up.
I know most editors set there project out differently, this might be the AVID workflow for blockbuster editors/commercials, but I dunno if some editors use this workflow for there project because I’m a premiere user and I set my timeline out completely differently
how do you layout a multicam project for events or music videos?
Please tell us about spot editing
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OMG! I have never seen such video on RUclips. Amazing!
One doubt - What software did you used?
Avid Media Composer
Avid Media Composer is what it looks like with the older interface for it
Awesome insight! So the editor doesnt have to fumble with tons of raw footage, it arrives to them “pre-edited” so to speak?
Kevin Funk - for a feature edit the footage would arrive as individual dailies. For a trailer edit it will usually arrive as a pre-edited rough or final feature with DME splits
So if I understand correctly, the movie will be rendered out with the Stems fro last bottom audiotracks. Correct?
You've vanquished my fear of seeing BIG Timplines.
Excellent!
Do you have a video that goes over your methodology of taking notes when you first review dailies? (Whether that's on a legal pad or via markers or whatever?) Been looking for something like that somewhere on youtube and haven't been able to connect with it. This video was still interesting and informative nonetheless.
We tackle this topic quite a bit in our full courses but essentially, markers or sub clips with descriptions, depending on how you prefer to work.
So the pictures come already synced with the appropriate audio tracks, and this is the “rough” audio track? So when you get the “cleaned up” audio from the sound engineers or whatever, you re-sync with the rough track?
J. Oakley yes exactly.
not one of the best but the best one
If you go to 6:00 in this video and look at that timeline, and want to add or subtract 3 frames or 3 seconds from somewhere in the middle, is there an efficient way to deal with everything that comes after that change - music, fx, dialog, etc, or is it always just a mechanical slog of dealing with that many (or more) tracks? I'm thinking especially of music that that may be running throughout the sequence and not amenable to just cutting in the middle and shifting one direction or the other. Feature editors must deal with this all the time?😵💫
Hey Patrick! Tools like “select all forward” are going to be a big time saver. Then deselecting pieces as needed so you don’t rip apart music beds at the wrong location.
Is it common for the sound department to send back stems of each group, rather than a full mixdown of everything?
but notNice tutorialng seems to work. Tried built-in content, and scarlett solo. What's the hardware you have? windows mac? special soft card?
Where to download Avid Media Composer???
What program are you using is it Adobe premiere
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Hey, just wondering what the black matte means for V7?
In this case it’s covering up time code and vfx data to provide mostly clean pic for viewing the rough cut
Hi I'm really inspired, which software is that?
That’s Avid
@@FilmEditingPro Thank you
that's professional ..which software did you used for this all please?
Haris Karim khan our screencap is in Avid and we edited the tutorial together using Premiere and After Effects.
@@FilmEditingPro Which software would you guys recommend to someone who"s just starting their career as a film editor.
@@basedstag9760 Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve are both great options.
@@FilmEditingPro Thanks for responding. To my knowledge, about 95% of proffessional studios uses Avid, which is industry standard. wouldnt it be better to start with Avid from the begining ? since it is quite different from Premiere Pro/FCP and even difficult. Wouldn't it be extremely difficult and time consuming to switch from Premiere Pro to Avid in the future ?
@@basedstag9760 hi Rajas. Yes if you plan on landing a job at an entertainment industry studio. However the vast majority of paid editing work is not that and Premiere is the most commonly used software at the moment. It depends on the job you’re going for.
Which NLE is this?
What software is this?
what program is this?
This is Avid Media Composer...with a lot of help from After Effects 😀
Very helpful .. i was a premiere pro user and now in thoughts of giving a try to avid media composer ..can you make tutorials of avid media composer ?
Glad you enjoyed, Mani! Lots more tutorials on the way.
@@FilmEditingPro please make Tut's on avid ..my personal request
I really am not at this level at all. So many layers, the most I have ever worked with was about 7. I would love to be able to sit and watch a professional editor, not sure I would say much as I would be in awe of what they were doing! What program are you using in your demonstration?
Kathy Roberts we are using Avid in this video but all of our training is designed to work with any modern editing software.
@@FilmEditingPro I am using Pinnacle Studio which is a much cheaper version than Avid. But suits me because mine is only for personal family use.
@@toxiqrox yeah I signed up for a Proffesional editing class and I cant wait to learn how to start on Hollywood movies (Wish me luck). >
@@colevrbanic8779 Good Luck
Can I use these principals if I am using Final Cut Pro? or is this work flow specific to a Video Editing software?.
Thank You.
Hi Tomasz - absolutely, you can use any modern editing software to apply these techniques. FCP will work great. You’ll just want to adapt things slightly as need based on exactly how your program handles track and clip colors.
@@FilmEditingPro Brilliant!, thank You!.. heading over to www.filmeditingpro.com/ Thank YOU !
Can someone add in on the difference between editing a film with the matte overlay for a different aspect ratio rather than editing on a timeline with that aspect ratio already applied into the timeline? Thanks! I have a specific ratio in mind for my film, shouldn't I just edit on a timeline sequence with that ratio already applied?
Have at look at our video on aspect ratio: ruclips.net/video/Xe_0T2tgeew/видео.html
Can you please tell me the editing software??
Avid MC. Doesn't matter though. Should work in Premiere the same way..
It can simply be said that avid media is exclusive to large entertainment and film industries, it is unnecessary to use it when you work from home or work that does not require it, premiere pro with After effects is crazy, and even more so with davinci resolve
also with premiere pro you can get pretty great results like this video...
What software do you use
We use Avid, Premiere and Resolve depending on the job and task
The biggest problem is that after all your edit,foley,sound effect,music if there are some changes in the edit then u need to shift every part of the post production element with it which is a real pain and can get messed up..
Exactly I wonder if there is like a way to go about it that is more efficient, of course saving a copy of the project before any adjustments is smart but yea it can be a very tedious thing depending on how complex and big the project is
@@machiavellian333 Just duplicate the timeline in the program and work off a copy. I work with AVID so this is easy. I don't know how other editing programs do it.
@@machiavellian333 if you are removing something that's usually easy smart deleting. If adding something typically selecting everything that comes after works for me. Again the bigger the project the more problematic it is
My brain exploded like Nagasaki but i slowly understood the whole video the more i watched it
can you tell the this program name
Hi there - this depicts Avid Media Composer but the principles will apply to most modern editing software.
Hi
does anyone know which software they using for trailer editing?
It doesnt really matter, the quality matter!
@@Mr2nnn i know brother but still I just wanna know what's that software I have never seen that one 👁️👁️
Avid. aka Media Composer.
Do you know any 8K editong software?
Avid Media Composer supported up to 16K resolution
@@alphacn3797 So does premiere. Up to 8k.
@@blacksniperItsgoldengungaming im not sure , but i think premiere supported up to 5K in maximum 🤔
I usually have more than 10 audio tracks just for the raw audio from the set. How come your dialog is just 1 track?
Because some projects will need 1 and others will need 20. Expand and contract necessary tracks as required by the production sources.
@@FilmEditingPro I was secretly hoping for some magic Avid trick that can collapse all those tracks into one, just like in Final Cut. ;)
@@isiosi haha I wish the same. Unfortunately Avid is still using audio mix downs. Ugh...
On which video track should I put titles and credits ?
Texts that have motion on them when the film track has ended, with a black screen behind it