THE PACIFIC PART 1 | FIRST TIME WATCHING | REACTION
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Band of Brothers was about the bonds formed between men in combat. The Pacific is about how war turns men into beasts.
What i liked the most about the series is how they captured how war jus wears on you emotionally. By the end sledgehammer turned into exactly what his dad feared unfortunately. Having his soul torn out. The end when snafu walked off the train without saying goodbye always gets the tears going. So much said without saying anything
it threw me off when I first watched the series after just finishing BoB, expecting a similar sort of story. But now I just appreciated for the same reasons
Beasts? They were very young men put into inhuman situations. My uncle returned from battle in the Pacific and he was no beast.
@@samson9535 I didn't mean _permanently._ I mean that that kind of jungle warfare is primal and savage. It brings out the beast within us.
@Jarred Jay I'd say a bit upset
Wait till she finds out this is probably the second most light-hearted episode of the whole series!
Well, Melbourne. But then yeah... oof
I hope no one spoils anything like with bob. I want her to se the difference between them lol
Nothing light hearted about the island hopping campaign,our guys were brave,the Japanese were fanatical dying for the emperor was the highest honor.
Being taken prisoner was the ultimate shame..it wasn't considered racism back then, just pure hatred of all round eyes,and how much we hated them..
@@wolfmanjack3451 Clearly the point flew circles then over your head. They meant that this was one of the lightest episodes in the mini series. Calm down there bucko
“Stay lower! Stay lower!” Comes into play in Episode 7, already up.
Random info, the 3rd installment of this series started filming last month. It'll be called masters of the air and follow the 8th Air force bomber crews over Europe.
Nice!
@Scumbag I have seen it, even own dvd of it, if that note was for me :D
I've been trying to read the book of it in anticipation but it's been a bit of a tough slog, "Band of Brothers" and "Helmet for my pillow" Flowed a lot better and really gave a sense of the actual people you were reading about.
Not with HBO tho. Its on AppleTV+.
8th Airforce in England and the 15th AF in Africa later in Italy..
And it's Army Air Force not air corps..Airforce separated from the Army in 1948..
A little info: The Marines did not have "Medics", they had "Corpsmen". Corpsmen were not Marines, but Navy sailors assigned to the Marines.
I learned about the first part from Flags of our Fathers and the second I never knew. I appreciate the sharing of knowledge.
Fun Fact: A lot of Marines look see their Corpsmen as Marines, as the Corpsmen are on the green side of Navy med, and they train and fight a long side them.
I knew a guy, in the Army. He was getting certified as an EMT so he could be an Army medic. I was getting certified for civilian EMS. We talked a fair bit outside of class, and he told me that he was so impressed with the US Marine Corps that he wanted to do an inter-service transfer and join the US Navy so he could be a corpsman for the Marines. We didn't keep in touch, I don't know where he is now, but that's always stuck with me. My godfather was a Marine in Vietnam. One of my gym coaches in high school was too. They're another quality of men entirely. So I understood when my friend from class said he wanted to be a Navy Corpsman.
Any idea why on the M*A*S*H tv show they had corpsman? They were supposed to be Army doctors..
"I forgot what flanking means!"
Adorable...
Haha!. Flanking is when you move around to your enemy's side to attack them where they are vulnerable.
Reminded me from a scene out of Red Dawn (1984) after LtCol. Andrew Tanner’s operations order on their upcoming raid.
LtCol. Tanner: All right. Four planes. Cuban bunker, Russian bunker. munitions dump, troop tents. Four machine gun bunkers. Back here by the drive-in screen are your political prisoners. We'll cause a diversion over here... cut holes in the wire here, fire on all these machine gun positions. The B-Group comes across this area in a flanking maneuver... and when you reach this bunker, you lay down grazing fire on this defilade. I think that's pretty simple. Anybody got any questions so far?
Aardvark: What's a "flank?"
Toni: A "defilade?"
Robert: What's "grazing fire?"
LtCol. Andy Tanner: I need a drink
@@HollywoodMarine0351 😂
a popular quote that always touches me, "in times of peace sons bury their fathers, in times of war father's bury their sons"
Unless you are fighting the Ms. Then you get annihilated.
Fathers*
Or are buried beside them.
You’re the first reactor I have seen notice how his Dad wasn’t being rude he was trying to stall time because he knew his son was leaving for a horrific war. He didn’t want to see his son go. Back then “I love you” and hugs were not really common within men. That firm handshake was his “I love You”. Made me so happy to hear you say he was trying not to say goodbye instead of assuming his father didn’t care like others have said in reactions.
I noticed too. All other reactors were pissed at his dad. He was stalling and couldn’t face facts his son was leaving to war. It wasn’t that he didn’t care.
Leckie talked about about how his parents where older when they had him and already raised a family before him and he felt they really didn't care or have much interest in him
Right, if he was being rude he would have had a more rushing or annoyed tone, instead he seemed more like a Parent before the first day of school double checking his Son's things and stalling
I dunno, his dad seemed genuinely distracted by the car, and then he gives the car one more look before getting in and driving off. To me he didn't seem rude as much as disinterested
As an adult I can't remember but one time that my dad gave me a hug where I did not initiate it. He was born in 1922, fought in World War II and Korea. About a week before he died he came up and gave me a hug and thanked him for taking care of him and my mom. I took almost 3 years out of my life to provide care for my parents right up to and including their death under hospice supervision. When I had to go to a heart doctor I went to my dad's old heart doctor. Before he would say anything to me as a patient he told me how well I had taken care of my parents that they were always clean their clothes were clean and neat. They were always healthy and well nourished. Then he asked me what he could do for me. It brought tears to my eyes when he said those things. Even to this day it's been 20 years, I still wonder if I could have done more.
Band of Brothers is about camaraderie while The Pacific is about the effects of war on the individual. BTW, the guy who plays Sledge is the little boy from Jurassic Park.
Yep Joe Mazzella...Also There is another Character,, a Friend of Sledge's nicknamed Snafu played by Rami Malek who plays Freddy Mercury in Bohemian Rhapsody.
@@joeschmoe9154 Back when this first aired it was the first time I ever saw Rami Maalek. He stole the show.
@@roadstarman58 He was in night at the Museum as well..
If you haven't yet watched Mr. Robot, you haven't yet seen Rami Malek.
@@joeschmoe9154 I remember Snafu as a character from Until Dawn!
“This is messed up!”
This is episode one.
Hold onto your butt.
LOL i wanted to say the same thing. Hold on for Pelelui.
@@kevindesmet1404 Okinawa and Iwo Jima too. It gets more and more brutal.
Yeah the Pacific is a much darker side of war than Band of Brothers.
@@lthanni The Okinawa episode actually gave me nightmares.
4:22 the Colonel is supposed to be Chesty Puller, probably the most famous marine in history! In the Korean War someone said something like "General, we're surrounded" to which Chesty replied "Good, now we can shoot in every direction!"
I thought that was during the Battle of the Bulge. Or were there two times an American Commander said that while surrounded?
Chesty has a few regarding being surounded and out numbered at the Frozen Chosin. The one you mentioned was his response when told he was surrounded.
“All right, they’re on our left, they’re on our right, they’re in front of us, they’re behind us…they can’t get away this time.”
"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things."
We're surrounded. That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them."
You seemed surprised that they would read their letters out loud. In that setting, you'll tell each other stories about every damn thing that's ever happened to you. The guys you go to war with will know you more intimately than almost anyone in your life.
Because war puts men in the tyranny of the now, it must be a relief from it, hearing stories from home. It gives them a sense of the past and the future.
Lmfao some of the funniest times and stories of my life was sitting around in the field, firewatch or whatever bored out of your mind telling stories makin up random games and just being with the boys. Nothing could never come close out in the civilian world.
It passes the time if nothing else.
I've been married for 23 years and there are things guys in my fire squad (fours years in the USMC) know about me that my wife still doesn't know.
"With the Old Breed" by Eugene Sledge is a book I have never forgotten. The war he experienced would have made me insane!
My great grandfather was on Guadalcanal with the 1st Marine Division. He was in 2nd battalion 1st Marines.
As a veteran, I'd like to thank you for having the maturity and respect to recognize what you are witnessing in this series. Every time someone watches these series, the legacy of these men, women, and their families is kept alive. As of 2020, the national WWII Museum lists only ~320,000 or so veterans of the conflict are still alive. They will all soon cross into the eternal blue. Soon all we will have will be books, memorials, museums, and film.
You have no idea the impact you are having by making and sharing these videos. It certainly has affected me in a positive way. Thank you again.
Thanks for your service. And yes they need to recognize the sacrifices made in the Pacific as well as Normandy. Marines that lived had multiple D Day landings.
WW2 veterans will still live on in the memories of their children and grandchildren. And my own children will know what their great-grandparents did.
‘Chesty’ Puller and John Basilone. Those are two Marine names you won’t ever want to forget. Those two were the perfected embodiment of the USMC and both are legends in the US military.
I'll vouch for that, absolutely right. I was a Marine for 8 years. A little trivia, one of the main roads on Camp Pendleton is actually named Basilone Road, btw.
Also, look into Capt. Everett Pope. His story in Peleliu is insane.
Goodnight Chesty. Where ever you are. Semper fi Mac
100 percent agree. it's a shame they don't mention Mitchell Paige a long side Puller, and Basilone.
I'm writing this in August of 2022. Just saw a story on how the Army and Navy are having serious issues with meeting their recruiting numbers. Best part about the story? They mentioned the Marines never have trouble meeting their recruiting numbers.
This series is so much different from BoB. And this is really due to the war in the pacific being vastly different from the European theatre. It made me value the personal sacrifices even more.
I would also highly suggest The Liberator on Netflix. Interesting visual style, gritty combat scenes, and it also follows a combat unit made up of different races.
Yep. You can read about it all these years. But they really put it in perspective on screen. How much tougher they had it in that theatre. The logistics of it all. The weather. An enemy that refused to surrender. Sobering stuff.
John Basilone was from the town next to me. They still hold a parade for him every year. He won the Medal of Honor. A true American hero. His statue is no more than 10 minutes away from me. And yes, both Band of Brothers and the Pacific were directed by Tom Hanks. He's an unbelievable actor and an even better director. He's probably second only to Steven Spielberg.
My grandfather was in The Pacific Theatre and he said the same thing that was said in this episode. “There was a lot of beauty on those islands and there was a lot of horror.” Some of the stories he told of the things he had been through and saw are unbelievable. “War is hell and it changes you” is what he would always say after spacing out for a couple minutes. I can’t even fathom the things he sheltered us from because we were too young. I’m glad you’re watching this series because the directors did a decent job of giving the series a pathos point of view. A good glimpse inside the emotional part of war and that’s what he said messed him up the most. Seeing other humans acting a certain way. Gaining respect for some while losing respect for others.
My dad was in the Pacific. He got to the Solomons right after Guadalcanal, but was there for other operations, then up to Saipan,etc. He told lots of war stories, but the nature of them changed, especially when he got closer to his end. He was a combat vet. 5 purple hearts, several commendations and Im sure I only heard a fraction of what he saw
My dad was a PTO veteran and didn't really talk all that much about as I was growing up. Then in 1967, I started the first of eventually three tours in Vietnam. When I came home to visit between tours, my dad gradually opened up about his war experiences. We talked about oppressive heat and humidity, about learning to deal with loss and still moving forward and about an appreciation of life and liberty.
I lost my dad a few years ago and toward the end of his life we became even closer since we had both experienced similar times during combat.
I know that most men tend to revere their fathers and I seem to be no different. My dad never graduated high school but he was by far the smartest, most resilient man I have ever had the honor of knowing.
When I lost my only son in 1978, my father held me while I cried. When my older brother passed before my dad, I held him while he cried. Just another bond we shared in the later stages of his life that I cherish the memory of.
R.I.P. SSgt. B.H. Dudley until we meet again!
When they say they’re trying to spot the positions, it means the Japanese are trying to see the range and location of the fighting holes so they can target them with mortars and artillery.
Band of Brothers was a great show! Great story from start to finish. The Pacific really blew it out of the water for me. Some of the scenes are so hard to watch. The absolute hell those Marines went through from the canal to Okinawa was on a level hard to even comprehend. From an army vet, tons of props to those men. Semper Fi.
Not only was the Pacific theater seldom covered due to the extreme carnage but the stories didn't make a lot of waves back home because soldiers involved in the Pacific had no way to express their experiences. Seriously, who could you tell? Anyone that was there didn't want to be reminded. Most suffered Nightmares for the rest of their lives. Oh btw, look into the US Army 81 Inf Div Wildcats. And thank you for your service.
I guess whoever said that this series didn't show the brotherly bonding didn't really pay attention to the show, there's definitely a lot of that. The last few episodes are so engaging and revelatory. You'll cry, I guarantee it. Excellent series.
Flanking is when an enemy attempts to attack you from the side, where your defenses are weak. So they start shooting at the front of your line, while troops try to move along side you and attack from the side/rear. This is very common in war, a good example would be the Southern army attacking the North at the battle of Little Round Top in the Civil War.
The Kid with the Heart murmur, Eugene, was also Timmy from Jurassic Park.The Japanese Navy was trained in night fighting, so every night the Japanese would control the straight, and the Americans with their air power would control it during the day. A complete change of control every 12 hours. The ships they saw burning were American and Australian.
He was Tim?? Holy crap dude, you just blew my mind
He was also John Deacon in Bohemian Rhapsody
@@benschultz1784 And Snafu was Freddie Mercury...
Its not so much being trained in night fighting, but rather that during daylight fleets couldn't get close to each other due to air power.
@@benschultz1784 Holy shit that was him? Guy is such a talented actor, I didn’t recognize him at all.
Oh sweet, you are moving to The Pacific. This is gonna be a blast, literally.
They did amazingly with it, I dont smoke at all, and never will, but damn did some of the episodes leave me wanting a smoke afterwards.... only other time I've ever wanted a smoke like that was when I was in Afghanistan with the U.S Army as helo weapons tech.
Yeah it's awesome for those who never went through it or anything close
@@devinshort8150 Your doing well if a cigarette is all you want after seeing this series and not harder substances. Thank you for your service. My father was decorated for valor as a forward mortar scout on Iwo Jima. He never came back the same.
The Japanese called the island of Guadalcanal the island of death. That should explain what you're about to see. The oceans around Guadalcanal one particular part was called iron bottom sound because of all the ships that were sunk in that area.
I think the Marines called the island “Starvation Island”.
@@alexs5744 I think the Japanese call it that. The Marines did get rather lean on that island but the Japanese had a very hard time supplying their troops as the tide of battle turned in favor of the US. When the Japanese finally pulled what was left of their troops most of them were so disease ridden and starved they were unfit for duty for months and even a year for some.
@@suflanker45
The Japanese had issues resupplying even from the outset due to Henderson Field (and, in the Early part of the campaign, American carriers) giving the Americans air superiority and thus dominance during the day: this is why all their non-carrier engagements happened at night, and it limited the amount of supplies they could bring in at once and the number of supply runs that could be made.
The naval battle you see is the the first naval battle of Guadalcanal (there where 5 I think) and the allied landing fleet got caught by complete surprise (the Japanese fleet practically sailed into the middle of the formation) and suffered very heavy losses and each following engagement was a seesaw of defeats for both sides. The youtuber Drachinifel has a small series of vids going over each naval battle of the campaign and I whole-heartedly recommend them.
Cassie.. your reactions seem to be more of an awakening.. you have said that you just never knew.. I served in the Air Force in the early 70s.. was deployed to South East Asia in support of the action in Vietnam.. War is a terrible thing, but historically, it is the way to regain order.. and has to be done. I appreciate your sympathetic: view of the reality.. next time you get a chance meeting with an active duty or veteran.. thank them for their service.. I'll tell you, it means a lot.. coming from your generation.. God bless..
There a channel from a German guy also a former soldier I think he mentioned he was in Serbia in the 90's and in a Analyse of the film Stalingrad he said something similar like you. War is not fun. Also for the civilian point of view it horrible to do, but in the military, sacrifice hundreds of people to make the attack possible and win the battle possible so it's exactly what you have to do. He also said something about a general who said, his soldiers are like poker chips, if he lost to many he couldn't win the battle but if he sacrifice them when it has to be done and have enough of them to win so he's a good general. That's also something what "we" the civilians don't understand people would say it's terrible and it's a shame, it's just has to be done.....that's how war works.
Thanks for your service Mike!!
The Japanese didn't fight by the same Western rules of war (hence the Japanese soldier committing suicide to blow up the medics, and the Japanese mutilating the bodies of American soldiers in this episode), so this series gets pretty rough sometimes. I find this series much more personal than Band of Brothers because you closely follow 3 men (and those around them) through the series, rather than a whole single company. This series also jumps around a lot more and covers a much longer period. But I've never seen a series that puts you so deep into the mindset of soldiers as this one. It's probably the one single series that's stuck with me more than any other, with Chernobyl being a close second.
Not soldiers, Marines.
Generation kill is the best for putting the viewer in the mindset of combat.
@@stevestoll3124 that's one I haven't had a chance to watch yet, but I've heard a lot of great things about it.
It's actually considered a war crime I I think even mentioned in the Geneva convention, to shoot a combat medic. However the Japanese didn't care. So that's why combat medics in the Pacific didn't where any medic insignias and carried a rifle. If you notice that medics that were in Europe did and did not carry a weapon at all. That's becuase when you are a medic you're a medic and once you pick up a rifle aparantly you are no longer a medic. So the rules did not apply for those serving in the Pacific.
@@zachbocchino5501 it's not combat medics but rather Red Cross units that are protected under the Geneva Convention.
If you'd like to now more about pearl Harbor, "Tora! Tora! Tora!" is a great movie to watch. it tells both sides of the attack, and is pretty historically accurate for when it was made.
I joined the US military at age 17 (had to wait, as I initially tried to join at 16), still a junior in high school. Fought in Iraq at age 19 with the first and second Marines, and in Afghanistan with the 101st Airborne. I served with many who did the same thing, joining at 17. People forget that people still join up young and fight young. And these stories and others mean a lot in helping people to understand.
Hi Cassie my name is Curt and I am a military veteran that served in both the 3rd Infantry Division while in Germany and then with the very prestigious 101st Airborne @ Ft.Campbell, Ky. Thank You for your interest and your respect for us who have served. God Bless you my dear. And God Bless America
Channel is called Popcorn in Bed... She watches movies/TV shows in bed... But no popcorn is eaten... That means she is the popcorn...
Hello Mrs. Popcorn! Thank you for another awesome reaction! I look forward to the rest of the reactions for The Pacific!
The lack of popcorn is seriously disturbing
I HIGHLY recommend reading “with the old breed” by sledge. He’s the one with a heart murmur. I’m a Marine and read his book and I’ve never read a more sobering and honest account of war. The emotional side of it, the toll of it, and everything in between. Hell of a thing they did back then.
It's also in audio form on RUclips. And thank you for your service. I'm actually writing you from Peleliu right now. Sempre Fi
Helmet for my pillow by Robert Leckie is another good book from the Pacific.
Hey. I just ordered that book from Amazon, going to trust a stranger on the internet and their recommendation. So, here's hoping it's a good read.
I highly recommend, Generation War (German: Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter, translated as "Our Mothers, our Fathers") is a German World War II TV miniseries in three parts.
Can't recommend this one enough too!
Yes I agree.
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yes It is good
Also, the "Catch-22"
This is the story of the first marine division. A Division is a much larger body of fighting men than a company (as in Easy Company from Band Of Brothers). The focus of the series is no longer a small(ish) group of men fighting side by side. Hanks, Spielberg and co. took two of the best books ever written about the Pacific war experience and brought the story down to the level of four men. Robert Leckie, Eugene Sledge, John Basilone and Sid Phillips as well as their closest clusters of friends. What threw a lot of Band Of Brothers fans off is that these men were not a homogeneous group. They fought in different battles at different times unlike Easy company. Their struggles were against a very different enemy and an environment that was just as harsh or harsher, but different. That is probably what Hanks meant when he said the Pacific had a different DNA from Band Of Brothers.
They are presently in production on a third, new series called Masters Of The Air. It promises to be spectacularly different as well. I read the book it is based on and some of it will be about a deep trauma of anticipating combat and hardship.
"With the Old Breed" and "Helmet for my Pillow"..these are the books "The Pacific" mini series is based on...must reads. And if you ever get the chance, watch "The Thin Red Line"...so amazing. Peace.
The Japanese soldiers were tough and brutal with a completely different mindset.
I was 11 when I first watched The Pacific and Band of Brothers, and so even though I knew that these marines and paratroopers were extremely young, I couldn’t really appreciate the fact because they still seemed much older than me. I’m now 22, and the fact that Sidney Phillips fought on Guadacanal at the same age at which I was just a high school junior is just unbelievable.
This scene by Chestey Puller (great performance by William Sadler) is by far the best scene of the entire series.
Naval Battle = 1st Battle of Savo Island. Night fight = Battle Tenaru River.
At the time of Guadalcanal, the US did not really know how to fight the Japanese. However this was ameliorated by the fact that the Japanese did not know how to fight the Marines. Mass BANZAI bayonet charges that intimidated the Chinese, did not intimidate the Americans. Laying down crossfire with machine guns just cut the IJA (Imperial Japanese Army) to ribbons. However; the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) was superior to the Allied Navies early in the war. The first clash between the Navies during the Guadalcanal campaign (shown in the show), resulted in a major Japanese victory called The Battle of Savo Island. Many American and Australian capital ships (meaning the big cruisers, battleships, & aircraft carriers) were sunk in "Iron Bottom Sound" (named for the sunken ships there). However it took so long that IJN Admiral Abe withdrew his forces because the sun was coming up, and he was afraid of the American planes. Thus he was not able to reinforce the IJA on Guadalcanal. But the IJN did not give up. They sent capital ships down the "Slot" (between the Solomon Islands, of which Guadalcanal was one) every night to shell the Marines, until the Allied Navies were finally able to drive them off. Oh, and the Americans had torpedoes that did not work, and the Japanese "Zero" fighter plane was superior to the American fighter planes. It was that way for most of the first years of the war.
The Zero was equal to the American F4F Wildcat provided both were in the hands of skilled pilots (and the Guadalcanal campaign showed it). Earlier in the Zero dominated because the Americans hadn’t expected the IJN to have such a capable carrier-based air raft, but by this point the Zero was far from invincible (though still formidable).
And the Guadalcanal campaign would lead to the Japanese losing virtually all of their skilled pilots (especially naval aviators), skewing things in favour of the Wildcat. Then the Wildcat’s successor, the F6F Hellcat, came online in vast numbers; the Hellcat was a far better fighter than the Wildcat or Zero (significantly faster than both, kept the durability of the Wildcat, and had an even better climbing rate than the Zero). Needless to say, between the Americans finally surpassing them in naval aircraft design and running out of pilots, the Japanese carrier and land-based squadrons were effectively out of the fight.
As for Ironbottom Sound, while the Americans paid a massive price in ships and sailors there (the US navy lost dozens of ships at Guadalcanal including two aircraft carriers and had even more ships severely damaged), so did the Japanese (they also lost dozens of ships at Guadalcanal, including one aircraft carrier and two battlecruisers).
@@bkjeong4302 No. The Zero was superior to the F4F. Faster, more maneuverable, faster rate of climb, longer legs. Yes, the Americans figured out a way to combat the A6M. Necessity was the mother of invention. A6Fs were also superior to the P-40. I believe that the P-38 was the only Allied plane that could compete until the F6F came into service. Then the A6M's days were numbered.
@@HemlockRidge The Zero was more nimble than the F4F and could climb faster, but the F4F was a bit faster than the Zero in terms of raw speed and more durable. And while the Zero did have very long range, this often worked against it-in many cases (involving very long-ranged sorties) the pilot would lose combat effectiveness from fatigue before the Zero actually got to where it was supposed to be.
A6Ms being better than the P-40 isn’t a surprise, it’s a newer aircraft than the P-40.
Bless you Cassie for saying this should be taught in school. Once upon a time it was. This miniseries is about the Marines fight in the Pacific (The army was there as well. ) The fighting was night and day compared to European theater. I minored in History in college emphasis on WWII, specifically the Pacific campaign in honor of my Grandpa. He was in one of the first Construction (SeaBee) Battalions. These were the guys who built runways and buildings and fought many times at the same time. He fought on Peleliu, Guadalcanal, Siapan, Tinian and Okinawa. Many years later I joined the Navy , I chose a different path. That as a Hospital Corpsman. Differences between European and Pacific campaigns could be noticed by looking at the Corpsmen mostly stationed with Marines. I was stationed on Okinawa, and have visited a number of battle sites in the Pacific.
In Europe enlisted medical personnel wore the Red Cross on their helmets and on their arms. In the Pacific, the Japanese would target troops in this order Corpsmen and Medics (no one to patch up wounded), Radiomen (can't call for reinforcements, Officers (take out the leadership) Medical personnel learned quickly to blend in. Red Crosses were taken off. The Pacific was an entirely different type of war.
The Japanese were taught to look for anyone carrying the Med-1 Kit...
Thanks for your service. Oh, and btw the Seabees are still in Palau. And, the Marines and the Navy still visit Peleliu.
This miniseries is a really hard watch. I've known Marines, men who have been a part of my life and shaped me in various ways. Not Marines from WW2, but veterans from another brutal war far from home. I think anyone who has really known Marines knows that that's enough said. The scars of WW2 are still on the US Marine Corps today. They are a service that knows its history. They've been forged on battlefields civilians can't ever really comprehend. This miniseries gives a bitter taste of it. I watch this solemnly, and think of those Marines I know.
I highly recommend the German movie "Downfall" (2004)!
Second that. Downfall was brilliant.
Bruno ganz was fantastic in it.... So a great actor.
It might give her bad dreams..the cyanide in the nursery scene was hard to take,especially if you have children of your own.
I always think of that line from Henry V: “Here was a royal fellowship of death...”
The Japanese film eternal zero is good too 😉
1970 movie Tora! Tora! Tora! is the classic movie about Pearl Harbor, and historically accurate.
A fantastic film, on both US and JP side. In some parts it has been filmed by Akira kurusawa. It's one of the best historical films ever made, same level as a bridge to far, the longest day or waterloo..... SO MUCH better than that so called "pearl harbor" from 2001.
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The movie Pearl harbor with Ben Affleck was atrocious. It was one of the stupidest war movies I've seen. The worst movie I've seen is Jarhead or maybe the new version of Dunkirk. I would rather see the corny old movies from the 40s and 50s then watch today's depictions of World War II.
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer lol jarhead..... I remember i saw it in the theater, lol it was boring i remember nothing else 🤣 just i didn't care about the characters and i was so so bored lol
@@Manu-rb6eo I found it pretty offensive because it portrayed the Marines as a bunch of screw-ups except for the one guy he was getting kicked out of the Marine Corps. I couldn't understand why they would depict it that way. But then I remembered why they would do it obviously it was Hollywood and they hate the military.
I’m not gonna lie. I’m gonna have a very difficult time watching this with you again. But I love your reviews, and I think you’re really respectful and sympathetic of the source material.
My Grandfather fought in the Pacific from 1943-1945. We still have his uniforms and photos and letters he sent home from the war. It was a ruthless and horrible war. It was not like the war in Europe.
And my grandfather never spoke of it to me or my father. He was lucky to get out alive. It’s incredibly emotional for me. The first time I saw these episodes I just lost it and broke down in tears. Remembering what my grandfather had gone through. This was literally my Grandad’s War, and it was absolutely horrible. It still guts me to this day.
Thanks for watching The Pacific and thanks for noticing that these men (or boys) were eighteen years old or even younger. With the weight of the world on their shoulders, It is astonishing what they were expected to do and what they did for their country and being Marines, they volunteered for military service. Some never made it home while others came home but were changed, at least to some degree for better or worse. What an amazing group of courageous men......The greatest generation!
One interesting thing to note is that this series follows several specific individual people throughout the Pacific theater of WW2, and how their paths continually cross through the course of the war. Dont be afraid if you miss a few names here or there because there will be a lot of characters coming and going as the series goes on.
Band of Brothers makes you want to cry whenever a loved character died. The Pacific makes you want to cry because of the intense combat.
... and the weather/environment 😫
Well, I cried when people in The Pacific died... but what made me cry was seeing the terrible conditions these men suffered, and their descent into hatred and violence.
It gets bloodier in the series
My grandfather was at Pearl Harbor during the attack. He rarely spoke of it, but when he did, he cried, remembering being thrown from his boat which capsized. And also having to help pull his dead friends out of the water. He said the Japanese warplanes flew so low, you felt you could reach up and touch them.
I warn you this is much "darker" than band of brothers. I believe it is more graphic. But it is really good. Guadalcanal the navy was attacked in the night and had to pull out. They left the marines that landed to fend for themselves. Japanese Navy used new "long lance" torpedoes. And sank number of ships. Forcing the navy to withdraw.
I’m so glad you are checking this one out. The Pacific is so well done as a miniseries. It’s well balanced storytelling. Amazing that these guys made it through such terrible circumstances. You’ll see what I mean later in the show, pretty grisly stuff.
I had to watch the Pacific twice to really appreciate it by itself. Especially after Band of Brothers
My grandfather served in the pacific during ww2. One of the things he talked about was how the jungle was so dark at night and the Japanese soldiers would walk around rattling sticks and shouting “Joe” trying to find out where their foxholes were
Wouldn’t the shouting have revealed their positions enough for them to be shot by American forces in wait?
Mine was in the Pacific as well (on New Guinea), he never talked about combat but a lot about the snakes, and bugs. From what it sounded like the environment was at least a much an enemy as the Japanese were.
You have asked in several videos about unit naming. Here is a general idea of how things work: A squad is 8-12 men, 3 squads make a platoon, 3 platoons a company, 3 companies a battalion, 3 bat make a regiment, 3 reg make a division, 3 div a corp, and 2-3 corp an army, with 1-5 armies making an army group. Air and naval and spec forces are all different due to special tasking
Oh man I was waiting for this! She loved BOB so this is going to be interesting! The war in the pacific was a completely different beast to the war in europe.
After the Pacifc, you should check out From Earth to the Moon, also by Tom Hanks' production company. It's fantastic.
as an Aussie who has been to Guadalcanal, I must say I went to the USA war memorial there to pay my respects, it was quite a moment. also the bay where all the ships went down is now called iron bottom sound due to all the ships on the bottom. thank you to all who came to the aid of the Islanders.
The part about the ships leaving was representing a series of naval battles that resulted in the area becoming known as "Iron Bottom Sound" due to the dozens of ships from both sides that were sunk. The Marines on the island were very sour about the Navy abandoning them and I remember my grandfather ( a WWII Marine) even talking about it when I was young. But at this point of the war the US and Japanese naval forces were fairly comparable, so the losses were shocking and the Navy was afraid of losing too many ships.
I’d recommend Generation Kill if this genre of shows is interesting to you. Very accurate depiction of the modern Marine Corps experience following Marines through the 2003 Iraq invasion. One of the Marines present during the actual events even plays himself.
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It's an accurate depiction of how Marines talk to each other, but it's only really accurate on the experience of Force Recon.
The rest of us Marines actually had to fight longer than 10 minutes a pop, deployed from sweat boxes with barely any AC and no way to see out of them to have any clue where we were. They had us in AAVs, which barely have any armor so an RPG hit would open them up like a tin can.
I swear it was all by design to piss us off so that when we did end up fighting the enemy, we'd be so furious that we'd annihilate them.
@@roddeazevedo No they didn't, I'm just losing details after almost 20 years.
Strap yourself in, this is gonna get real as you've rarely seen. This series focuses on the dehumanizing, darkest aspects of war, and to me it is just as important as BoB, especially because the soldiers who sacrificed themselves here aren't nearly as well remembered. Like your reactions keep it up.
I would love to see an Army perspective in the Pacific. Many people assume that only marines fought in the Pacific when in fact there were more soldiers there than marines.
11:10 The Battle of Savo Island, where an inexperienced American Navy got its first bloody nose in direct combat with the Japanese Navy, inexperienced pre-war commanders lead there ships into an ambush, it was such a blow the US withdrew their ships to regroup, they eventually returned but so many skirmishes happened and so many ships were sunk in the following months, American and Japanese, were sunk it earned the nickname Iron Bottom Bay.
This mini series is based on two books, A Helmet for a Pillow & With The Old Breed. I recommend you read those books if this series peaks your interest.
Lastly, read Wikipedia about Lewis Puller & Lewis Puller Jr. Hopefully you will appreciate their service & sacrifices.
With the Old Breed!!!
@@catherinelw9365 Thank you for the correction. I was working from my faulty memory.
@@kevindown1592 No worries!
The comment I came hunting for. Both great books and like the stories they tell in this series, very different books.
Also The Basilone Character is covered in a Book By John Prosser " I'm staying with my boys"
Uhhh oh. Lol.
Has a totally different vibe than Band of Brothers, but you will definitely love it.
I dunno. The series is great but it really can make you feel like shit. Especially the Okinawa episode.
I think The Pacific is even better then Band of Brothers, because it not only illustrates to brotherhood of war, but also involves the people at home that are affected by the war, and that gives a much more complete story.
"at 18 they have been through so much" that is why they are know as the "greatest generation" I am proud of my grandfathers. My maternal grandfather experienced two wars one when he was 13 and the other he was old enough to enlist. Came to this country not even in high school yet, not knowing a word of English with his seven siblings and lost his parents during a war. Or so we thought. (Turns out my great grandfather fled to France when the side he was fighting for lost. Apparently he had an affair with a French women and then died in Dijon 1940) Took part at the Battle of the Bulge, liberated a concentration camp, and came back home to finish off college and meet my grandmother. My other grandfather served in the Navy, enlisted in 1943 when he was 17 years old, and was assigned on a few cruisers, a tanker and even a destroyer.
I'm liking this and commenting before I even start the video I'm just that excited you are doing this series lol I just watched it last week for the first time myself and as hard as some parts are to watch it really gives you a different perspective on the war that I had no idea about.
Hope you enjoy this series, but a word of advice: Do not go in expecting Band of Brothers 2. The Pacific is a different type of story telling and if treated on its own merits is, I think, just as good as BoB. I made the mistake the first watch-through of expecting it to be more like BoB and I was disappointed, but when I watched it again with a different mindset I found I like this series better in a lot of ways. Anyway, have fun!
Agreed. Different war, different strategy. This was a war of kill or be killed. There was no middle ground, no rules, no mercy, no surrender.
I had the exact same experience. I liked the Pacific much more after watching it again.
I feel like the one "mistake" that _The Pacific_ made was attempting to follow 3 different Marines in 3 different units. The brilliance of _Band of Brothers_ was that it stuck with the same company for the entire series. That simplified things and really helped with character development. Viewers got to know those soldiers and see them develop on various ways from green recruits to grizzled veterans. The organization of the company was also easier to follow. The combat scenes hit harder because you were more invested in these characters because you knew them better. I wish they had done the same with _The Pacific._
To what you were talking about at 16:12...
There's a song by the Bellamy Brothers called Old Hippie. There's a verse in that song that has stuck with me since the first time I heard it... it starts out that he just turned 35, but then it reflects on when he was younger...
"they sent him off to Vietnam on his senior trip...
And they forced him to become a man while he was still a boy...
And behind each wave of tragedy, he waited for the joy...
Now this world may change around him, but he just can't change no more..."
This series is based off the books “Helmet for My Pillow” by Robert Leckie, and “With the Old Breed” by Eugene Sledge. This series is graphic and you see the horrors of war close up. It is worth the watch in the end but be prepared. I look forward to your reactions.
The Pacific. Also known as "Freddie Mercury and John Deacon go to war".
Everytime they show Sledge Hammer all I can think of is Timmy from Jurassic Park
@@randomknox82 And in BoB all I see when Frank Perconte is on screen is ''Dont Ask'' from Hook.
My grandpa was a recon/scout mostly in new Guineas almost 2 years(early 1943 till the end just about, late 1944) basically just all over the Solomon's. The things he heard, witnessed, or was forced to do by his own hands definitely haunted him till the day he died.
It was a war of extermination that dehumanized its combatants where neither side was taking prisoners or surrendering,only really equaled in ferocity and carnage by the Eastern Front. As a result he harbored a burning hatred for Japanese soldiers and also for the way that social programmers try to make a trivialization of war, selling it to young boys like a glorious feat to be enjoyed. We never had toy guns as kids and especially around him, since a gun wasnt for fun it was to be respected and war wasnt for titillation or entertainment, he imprinted this on all his kids/grandkids, then my dad doubled the efforts after his service during Vietnam.
He only ever talked to my dad and uncles about it in depth and that wasnt until much later in his life and after several of them came back from their own jungle hells in Vietnam. For the rest of us maybe some anecdotes or the one time he gave us a very censored description in a taped interview for my veterans day project when I was in grade school. Even watching that now it's very intense storywise and emotionally, much like the interviews in BoB and the Pacific, but it got so much worse from what I later found out.
Stuff like youd expect such as dead and mutilated bodies sitting in the tropical sun, which is bad enough but it just got worse and worse, going to literal starving Japanese cannibals eating people(either corpses they found or made), stories of their company having to fight off a raiding party of starving cannibal infantry(several times in one night) driving mad from hunger & the subsequent consumption of people that they were launching human wave attack with abandon on US troops and the remaining natives just to get bodies to eat. How they could determine how desperate the Japanese divisions they were facing were by the frequency of bodies they found with the just the back leg meat stripped,then if they were stripping everything, and eventually it would get really bad & they would start eating their own wounded/dead. Or maybe it was just how his patrols would kill a Japanese Sentry so quietly nothing couldnt be heard, or the same to a soldier in a two man foxhole so that his comrade in the hole wouldn't wake until the morning and only then he would find out his comrade he slept back to back with had his throat carved open, or other normal demoralization tactics once they had gotten quite good Patrolling and killing in the South Pacific. Or a description of what happens when a landing ship in a fog bank with ~20 odd men takes a direct hit from a howitzer, how men literally blown to bits(big and small) would rain down or how a man could be turned into a large blood cloud suspended in the mist/fog for some time while you following just behind in your landing craft would become wrapped in the eviscerated remains of a friend turned to a lingering blood mist. Or it might be a dear friend who'd he had gone through this hell with he watched become severely Shell Shocked/PTSD racked yet was kept on the line, taking part in landing after landing until he snapped right in the middle of an opposed landing, took out his dads pistol hed been sent in the mail and shoots himself right next to my grandpa and his squad in that little boat.
Gruesome stuff like that and even worse if youd believe it,I'd probably get banned for describing what happened to the Native New Guinea woman and Western Missionary Nuns the Japanese had captured and another company he was adjacent to subsequently found a few survivors, or the detailed descriptions of how brutal the fighting and killing became as it progressed. Alot of which we've since compiled from our taped interview, what he shared verbally and from the notes he had wrote into the margins of a book on his divisions history before and during the war.
Much like the backdrop, the fighting took on a very unique character in the Pacific very distinct to that theatre, be it the nature and intensity or in a tactical senses. The Japanese definitely brought alot of this on themselves due to their specific cultural attitudes towards war, honor, POW's & surrender fueling the mass killings of civilian/prisoners with the blade or rifle butt, usings POW's for bayonet practice, taking sex slaves (or "comfort woman" as their army called them), but I'm not so naive to think us "Goodguys" weren't also committing war crimes en masse in every Theatre of war. Truth is nothings that black&white in the great game or war, there are no "good guys" only "your guys" in your own peoples mind and no matter how unthinkably inhuman the atrocities of your enemies are or appear, the bad guys doing it were once just like you and your loved ones, and just like them once your all also subjected to the dehumanizing machinery of War then you'll be just as capable of those horrors. eventually you either lose your mind or you roll with it and are haunted by it until your last breath.
Bit of a novel but Sid and Eugene reminded me of his picture from before the war with my grandma and aunt, made me think how the anger and trauma can just as easily be passed like a ripple from an enemy you probably hate on to your loved ones the same way your love shared with them also continues on, only you can decided if that imprint upon you it made will continue or not. Not trying to be esoteric or woowoo, but you can practically see either extreme making their web through the ages, connecting us to our predecessors more than you'd think in the usual genetic sense.
Hopefully I can be as loving and warm as he remained even despite what hed been through, all that horror makes my own trials & troubles look like nothing in comparison.
I typically dont like a literal WALL OF TEXT coming out of nowhere in threads , like I just did, but writing it all out helped flesh out the quick flood of emotions and all that accompanied, the good and bad. Most people will rightfully just ignore this insomnia fueled /im14andthatsdeep-esque (shit)post, maybe if it resonates with someone enough for them to reach this point then maybe this wasnt quite the giant waste of time it seemed to me at 2am and I have work in 6hrs but I'm still click clacking on my keyboard like it's the typocalypse. Most likely they're just sadomasochistic and it's an even worse times timesink than first imagined as I discover around noon tmrw, but I'm in too deep to abort now sunkcosts be damned.
All that to say its your fault I'm most likely gonna show up late to work tmrw and make my coworkers pick up my slack until I can arrange a caffeine IV! I hope your happy
Also, flanking means that you are trying to get around something. So the flanking Japanese soldiers were trying to get around the US machine guns in order to take them out from the sides/behind where the machine guns aren't facing.
No only at 18 were they fighting a war! But they had been through the Great Depression! Greatest Generation indeed!!
There's just something about watching your reaction to these episodes that I like... I would have loved to have been a history teacher, maybe at the Royal Military College in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. Anyways, I really look forward to your next reaction for Episode 2.
When the 1st Marine Division landed on Guadalcanal, the average age of the Division's enlisted Marines was about 18. Keep in mind, in many cases they were "officially" 18, with freshly altered birth certificates when they joined up.
Fact is, we fight wars with kids, always have, probably always will. It's a young man's game, you'll have some old salts sprinkled into the mix, the Squad Leaders, Platoon Sergeants, etc., to lead, teach, train, mentor the young studs, but it's the late teens and early 20 somethings that do the heavy lifting. They're easier to train at that age, they don't break as easy and when they do, they heal faster, and at 18, you're still ten feet tall and bullet-proof.
My grandfather fought in the pacific, he was a gunner in a dauntless diver bomber. Sadly I never met him, he did make it out of the war but died before I was born.
His dad can't handle saying goodbye. And with the stigma applied to crying he sure can't cry right now.
If we're talking about Leckie, I've always felt like his dad was just kind of aloof. He didn't seem to be pretending to care about the car and only snapped into the moment as Leckie was trying to get his attention
I'm looking at a Japanese Arisaka rifle My Grandfather brought from a dead soldier...I can't imagine what horrible things were done with it...
I see what you mean but..... It war.... Same thing with the M1 garand (great gun btw)
@@Manu-rb6eo The difference is that God knows where this same Arisaka rifle has been and who has used it. Torturing and executing Chinese civilians and mutilating US soldiers? Those are a possibility.
@@VPortho well i understand your point of view, but believe me it's not a good idea to say the possibility iz that..... There will always be a crazy anti American psychopath who will go mad an say remember ALL the yanks were exterminators in Vietnam, or possibility is that these guys raped and killed in that village or the GI's were also cruel in ww2 or yeah Iraq remember Iraq ! But worse thing is....... It's not completely false... Sadly...... The Americans were not angels neither. The soviets were terrible too.
i have Japanese relatives i know all wasn't very nice, i do know the US guys mad bad things to. But i don't care i won't insult you for what happened back then. It's possible an arisaka made bad things but same for a garand... Or a Mosin Nagant.
Be careful with that.... I hope it will save you from troubles lol 😁.
@@Manu-rb6eo Now now we all know that the Lee Enfield is a far superior rifle mahh.
@@zachbocchino5501 this one has 10 rounds so..... Yes technically it was superior lol 🤣
Marines don't have their own medics they have a Navy medic (Hospital Corpsman) attached to them. Sometimes there's some friendly ribbing but that stops as soon as someone gets wounded 😊
This series always hits different because I was able to meet and speak with Sgt. R.V. Burgin (Burgie in the series even though he told me he had never been called that in his life). Incredible man.
Another amazing series but it's def a lot darker about the brutality of the Pacific Campaign and how ruthless the Japanese army fought and what the Marines endured.
Try The Thin Red Line... great deep touching movie you probably would like, very emotional with awesome cast... maybe the most honest movie about war ever made.
surprised to see someone say good things about that film - good for you and I agree with you - so many people don't even know about it and a lot that do don't like it because it is a cerebral film and they want junk war films like Windtalkers and Red Tails because they still think combat is an adventure or glorious
Every island hop was a mini d day... over and over and over
The guy giving the pep talk at the beginning was Lewis "Chesty" Puller. He was an absolute legend in the Marine Corps.
One of my family members was a fighter pilot on Japanese side, he knew on the ground it was pretty insane (east was insane too, way worse than western front).
Oh wow, my Dad's cousin was a US Navy pilot who fought at the Battle of Leyte Gulf.
@@catherinelw9365 oh ? 😉 Mine was also in the navy with a Zero (but not on a carrier sp far i know), they couldn't faced each other, he was around rabaul and at the golf of leyte he was sent back to Japan. I never knew him but his cousin died on a island, maybe in a "banzai charge" i don't know 🤔.
@@Manu-rb6eo Rabaul was a thorn in the side of the US and Australia, and I hear that you can still find abandoned equipment and other war materiel left from the war.
Will you watch Generation Kill? It's basically another military series like this but set during the Iraq war in 2003. Also by HBO
Generation kill is amazing and underrated, but it can easily be misunderstood by people who don't understand the modern military.
My father was in the Army, sent to the Philippines, and only had 3 weeks in basic training! Most of that was learning Morse code. He was a telegrapher, sending messages from camp to camp. He was captured by the Japanese on Luzon for over 2 years, and was in terrible condition when he came home. At 25, he lost all his teeth, his hair went grey, and was malnourished to the point that he had to be fed through a tube for several weeks. When we asked about the war, we never heard a word, until we were adults. Then still only lighthearted moments. But when he was dying of cancer and in a semi coma, he must have been reliving it all again. Lots of yelling and crying and a few Japanese words!
When in a military position, the flanks are your right and left sides. A flanking maneuver is when a unit moves around an enemy's front to their side, to either attack from that flank or to their rear, where, in either case, the position is more vulnerable.
So dark and intense... I went into it hoping for more BoB .. it's not, it's it's own thing
they just started filming masters of air for Apple+ can't wait!
@@ezsus3574 I know, I cant wait.. my grandfather was a pilot of the B24 liberator and had an incredible story of being shot down, captured and escaping.. I cannot wait for this to come out!!!
@@ezsus3574 really? Holy crap, they've been talking about doing it for nearly a decade, my great-uncle was a belly gunner on a B-17, but crashed in Alaska during a training mission weeks before he was suppose to go to europe.
I agree that following the characters is harder in The Pacific then it was in Band of Brothers, so focus on only a few main ones.
Bob Leckie, he's writing to Vera.
Sidney Phillips, he's just had is 18th birthday, a childhood friend of Eugene.
Eugene Sledge, He's got the heart murmur.
John Basilone, he was in the pep talk scene, he'll be focused on in the next episode.
These will form the anchors to the rest of the characters for you, they are the characters the show will follow closest. Unlike BoB they aren't all in one close group, so the story largely jumps about from person to person as their unit is in combat.
This show is brutal, it'll be really rough at times, but I don't think you could tell the story any other way.
Robert Leckie is the writer and was a machine gunner and scout in the 1st Marine division. John Basilone is the gunny sergeant, 1st Marine division, (Italian family dinner scene), was in the army prior to the Marines and Eugene Sledge is the 18 year old who's father was a doctor and said he couldn't go. Eugene's best friend is Sid Phillips (greaser) and was also in the 1st marine division.
Schindler’s List please...
This is gonna make Cas Cas sad sad.....
Awesome talk in the beginning on Band of Brothers and the camaraderie and now the Pacific. Excellent bookend series! So thrilled you are watching this series!
William Sadler in the role of Chesty Puller makes a very sound observation in his pep talk early on in this episode when he says "you'll be fighting for tiny scraps of land in the ocean that you've never heard of".
Before 1815, who'd heard of a Belgian country town called Waterloo?
Before 1942, who'd heard of a run-down railway junction in the Egyptian desert called El Alamein?
Before 1945, who'd heard of a tiny, barren volcanic island called Iwo Jima?
Puller clearly knew his history.
Ok, since everyone is making post-Pacific recommendations, I'll make one too. My proposal is "Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison", made in the late 50's by John Huston. Robert Mitchum stars as a Marine who is washed ashore a Pacific island during WWII after his ship is torpedoed, and the lovely Deborah Kerr is a nun who was stranded on that same island after the other nuns/priests and islanders fled on a ship (she explains her story to him). Anyway, the Japanese invade the island and they have to hide from them. It's a survival story, a love story (chaste, as she keeps her vows), a story about higher forms of love, as well as the honor of Marines. I love that film, and it's a shame that it's been forgotten. I think Cassie will enjoy it as a palate cleanser as it's a much sweeter story set during the war.
Other Classics are 'No Man is an Island,' ' Hell in the Pacific,' 'Operation Petticoat,' 'The Purple Plain,' 'Three Came Home,' and 'The Coast Watchers.'