THE PACIFIC - PART 1 (FIRST TIME WATCHING REACTION)
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Original Show: The Pacific
Based on the accounts of Marines in World War II, this 10-part miniseries follows the intertwined journeys of three U.S. Marines in the Pacific Theater -- Pfcs. Robert Leckie and Eugene B. Sledge and Sgt. John Basilone -- from their first battle against Japan on Guadalcanal, across the sands of Iwo Jima and the horror of Okinawa, to their ultimately triumphant return after V-J Day. The producing team behind "The Pacific," including Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg, also was behind HBO's award-winning miniseries "Band of Brothers."
Number of episodes: 10
Directors: Tim Van Patten, David Nutter, Jeremy Podeswa, Graham Yost, Carl Franklin, Tony To
Executive producers: Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg, MORE
Predecessor: Band of Brothers
Music composed by: Hans Zimmer, Blake Neely, Geoff Zanelli
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My Great Grandfather served as a Medic In the Philippines. He was a Mexican Citizen, however after his first wife passed away he decided to earn his US citizenship through the "Bracero Program". From there He enlisted into the army and became a medic. Glad to see The Pacific side of the war getting some attention as it is often overshadowed by the European theater.
That's awesome my friend! I thank him for his service, especially in that hell hole over there!
Great stuff my man
He must’ve felt weird when he first got in to the Philippines since its culture mostly came from the Spanish, especially from Mexico.
@@Fergus_0703 He never talked about the war even to his closes family, but we do have pictures of him and another Hispanic American soldier interacting with various local villagers.
It is very much overshadowed by the European Theater. If you've ever watched the Ken Burns docuseries The War they actually talk about the latinos that served in the Pacific theater. I noticed that Mexican-American soldiers that served in WWII aren't talked about as much. Like we love our country too. My dad is a US Army Sgt. I love where my family came from too in Mexico. Love my heritage/culture especially during this time of year and I also love the USA. I just wish we were acknowledged more for WWII.
Tom Hanks did a short intro to set the scene for every episode. They also had brief interviews with some of the surviving veterans. Originally this was shown as part of the episode, but for some reason HBO Max has separated them out as “extras.” It may be beneficial to view the intros before the episodes. Not only is it the version the filmmakers wanted to show, but it greatly helps set the scene, and time frame, especially for those less familiar with distant island battles in Oceania, rather than the more publicized conflicts like Stalingrad, Tobruk and Market Garden. The intro to the first episode explains why Guadalcanal in 1942 was a critical place at a critical time. The episode proper doesn’t really delve into those details.
Yeah i wonder why they took those out as every time i seen The Pacific it had those intros which was a nice addition.
God I find how stupid that was. Why would they do that? Its so disrespectful towards the vets that risked their lives for us.
So RE: Leckie's gun: The Marines are historically underfunded and receive older equipment. Leckie is carrying the full machine gun, an old WW1 era watercooled model. That's why the barrel looks so big, you're seeing a big water tank surrounding the barrel that helps cool the weapon as it fires.
Leckie is part of a heavy weapons company, the company that carries all of the Battalions heavy weapons, meaning Machine Guns, Mortars, etc. A machine gun squad typically had one guy carrying the weapon, one guy carrying the tripod, and support guys carrying extra ammo.
Leckie was carrying a Browning 1919 water cooled machinegun. It was heavy and the big jacket around the barrel was used to circulate water around the barrel. With a supply of water, this gave it the ability to give more sustained fire before over heating than the air cooled version. The air cooled version was much lighter.
29:35 Oh, and Kev, that wasn't a Drill Instructor going "Hard-Man Ham" on the ship talking about "Kill all the slant-eyed monkeys!" or whatever. That was their Company Commander, who was also the guy who ended up in the foxhole, frozen up at the first sign of action. Not digging into him-freezing up happened a lot, but it's just unfortunate to see it from their CO, who'd been all piss and vinegar before.
One reason you don't get the same feel as the start of Band of Brothers is that the Marines hit Guadalcanal in August of 1942. Easy company was able to train for two years together and develop their brotherhood until June of 1944. Because of Pearl Harbour (and the Philippines) the Marines were thrown into the Pacific as fast as they could.
By the end of this you'll never forget the names. Same effect as Band of Brothers. Japanese were brutal and blindly dedicated to the cause. Ready to throw their life away at any moment. In the battle on "The Tenaru river" the Japanese actually lost 2,200 men to the Marines 26 in 12hrs, they got slaughtered. This war is what nightmares are made of. I couldn't even imagine being a Marine during this war. Also there is a "historical background" option at the start that has the actual people talking. Similar to Band of Brothers. In case you didn't know.
This series focuses much more on the dehumanizing effects of the war.
Yeah the first episode was definitely different and left you with a different feeling thank BOB.
I'm really glad you're watching these. This series is as good as Band of Brothers, in my opinion. It's just different. It shows the brutality and dehumanization of war. I highly recommend the books "Helmet for my Pillow" and "With the Old Breed" for reading after. I won't say who the authors are, since I don't want to spoil anything.
Absolutely love “With the Old Breed” the audiobook is great because they have the actor from the show (trying not to spoil) read the book in character and it’s great after watching the show. Might have a re-listen this week now that I’m thinking of it. Absolutely love it.
As far as the two shows, I used to prefer BoB over The Pacific but after a few rewatches of both I’ve grown to prefer the Pacific over BoB. Both amazing shows and should be a requirement in school to watch both. We watched 1 episode of BoB in high school.
I think why people don’t think The Pacific is as good as Band of Brothers is because it doesn’t have a “happy ending”
@@brandtb.3883 exactly
The opening titles of The Pacific are in my opinion the greatest opening titles of any television show in history. Hanz Zimmer's score mixed with the shattering charcoal fading into shrapnel and the way the score builds is absolutely brilliant! At the conclusion of the score when that last drum beat comes in, every hair on my body stands up! Incredibly powerful!
Make sure to watch the 2-minute "Historical Background" segments that aired before each episode. They not only set the stage with a short documentary narrated by Tom Hanks, but they also feature some of the veterans portrayed in the series in the same manner as the Band of Brothers opening interviews. I highly recommend you see them before the start of each new episode like we did in 2010. (They are included as extras on HBOmax, but can alternatively be found on RUclips.)
*Pet peeve warning: These episodes are just titled, "Part One," "Part Two," "Part Three," etc. I'm not sure where the spoilerific "Wikipedia" titles came from, but it wasn't HBO. The DVD/Blu-ray set simply lists this episode as "Part One," just like the on-screen text after the intro.
Loved your reaction to BOB had to catch this reaction as well. A suggestion for another HBO mini series: check out Generation Kill, based on the novel written by a reporter imbedded in a Marine recon Unit during the invasion of Iraq. A few of the actors in it were marines in the unit, one even plays himself.
I will check it our Kris and thanks for the recommendation :)
5:46 That guy giving the speech is Lewis "Chesty" Puller. What a badass! When he was introduced to a new weapon called "The Flamethrower" his first remark was asking 'where do you attach the bayonet?'
The youngest US servicemen recorded was Calvin Graham who enlisted at 12 years old into the US Navy served on a battleship took shrapnel to the face while dragging his cremates to safety.
The Japanese took a different strategy with welcoming the allies on beaches, other than Saipan and a couple of other islands, and dug in defensive positions or moved to strategic locations on an island to inflict as many casualties as possible. Obvious of course.
The 3rd series comes out this September, it's called Masters of the Air and will be exploring the aerial wars of WWII through the enlisted men of the Mighty Eighth, Spielberg and Tom Hanks are both included in the producers listing and It looks amazing 🙌
The books this is based off of is Helmet for My Pillow and With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa. Both are practically required reading in the Marine Corps when I was in and are extremely good reads. With the Old Breed is probably the most honest and vivid account of what it's like to be in combat I've ever read and while his war was vastly different than mine, I can say he definitely captures what combat is actually like.
In all my years enjoying media from Britain, I have to say that “are you pissing on my chips” is a new one for me. Love it. Great reaction!
I love Dr. Phillips 🤗🤗. I saw him in a docuseries and I could tell that the war affected him so much. Glad he became a doctor after the war to save lives.
Leckie is toting the M2-A1 .30 heavy machine gun affectionately known as the Ma Duece.
Developed at the end of WW1
These guys were brothers in every sense of the word Brothers from another Mother.
There is a third series on the way from Spielberg, focused on the USAAF
As always another great reaction. The machine guns that the Marines were using early in the war were older variants that were water cooled. This will come into play in an upcoming episode (no spoilers).
Looking forward to following along with you in this journey.
So glad you're watching this!
I have heard it's brutal but a must watch!
@@SofaandChill Absolutely, it's an important series for me as it led to me writing my dissertation on the Pacific War, if you have any questions I'd be happy to help!
My paternal grandfather was a Marine in the Pacific Theater. He never talked about it much but I do know he was a Midway among other places. He had nightmares about his war experiences for most of his life. So while I love Band of Brothers, I actually love the Pacific more because it gives me some small sense of connection to him.
Buckle up for a different kind of ride, Kev...
I have heard it is wild and very different from BOB
@@SofaandChill My father was a Marine.
He had originally trained as a tail-gunner in a B-25 (or PBJ as the navy called it). His squadron was disbanded before he left the states and headed for the Pacific.
He was in Hawaii when the Japanese surrendered, but was still sent to Guam.
As I grew up and learned more about the war, I was thankful he had not seen any combat. Hard to imagine what it may have done to him.
@@gregall2178 My Dad experienced something similar. He was 16 when the war in Europe ended, so he ran away and lied about his age, joining the Army. By the time he reached the Philippines, Japan had surrendered. Then he was sent as part of the occupation force in Japan. I thank God he was spared the horror, although he did fight in Korea.
Context ... Guadacanal was after Midway. Without Midway win, the US Pacific fleet would have lost off of Guadacanal, or not even gone. As it was the US and Australian fleets were wrecked off of Guadacanal, the US was down to one aircraft carrier in the Pacific. The battle there lasted over 6 months because the Japanese wouldn't give in, and kept up supplies and reinforcements. Initially the Japanese were caught by surprise. The Japanese were building a runway, we took it and used it against them. It is 4400 miles from Hawaii to the Solomon Islands, which at 10 mph by ship would take 440 hours or over 18 days. There is training, in a later episode. This unit had 6 months training, not the 2 years of the 101st. Jungle islands, very hot and humid, and some with no water.
I've read With The Old Breed, which is one of the books they take a lot of stories from for this series. I won't tell you who wrote it, that would be kind of a spoiler. It's a good book though, I would recommend it.
A couple of things that I hope will add to your understanding.
Neither Japan nor the Soviet Union were signatories to the 1929 Geneva Convention. This had tragic implications on the Eastern Front. You wouldn’t want to be a German captured by the Russians or a Russian captured by the Germans. But with the Japanese it was a whole different ball game. The Japanese warrior code of bushido had the idea that it was dishonorable to surrender. After the fall of the Philippines there was an atrocity referred to as the Bataan death march. POWs were starved, executed for no reason. This, combined with the attack on Pearl Harbor before war was declared, soured the code of war.
We tend to do what worked the last time, creatures of habit. Early in the series the Japanese followed the tactics that worked form them in China. Night attacks, banzai charges were intended to frighten the untrained Chinese troops. This worked great in China. Against the trained, high morale Marines it was a slaughter. If you search for images of the battle of the Teneru you will see the bodies on the beach were not exaggerated.
Over the course of the war the Japanese changed to a strategy of defense in depth, tunnels interconnecting caves. This made things very brutal.
Guadalcanal had the code name Operation Watchtower. The Marines called it Operation Shoestring. There were three different battles going on at Guadalcanal. We see the fighting on land here but the naval war and air campaigns were just as intense.
The Pacific is different from BOB. The combat in BOB was about one year. In TP in covers about four. In BOB the formula, after episode 2, was to focus on one member of Easy to get to know them in depth. You won’t get to know the secondary people as well. But you will get to know the three principles, plus one or two others, in depth.
Good job.
Honestly they need to make a series for the Solomons night actions (starting with Savo Island, shown in this episode). Those battles were outright crazy.
ah man, I'm excited! enjoy the ride Kev!
I will try my best bro :)
@@SofaandChill It won’t be easy!
you can look up the 1st Marine Division's timeline for WW2. Wiki covers it well enough. And Guadalcanal was the US first true offensive action against the Japanese. There wasn't a lot of time between Pearl Harbor Attack and Guadalcanal. 7 or 8 months. And a couple months of that was shipping from the US to New Zealand then on to Guadalcanal.
In the sea battles surrounding Guadalcanal the USN and allies learned how deadly effective the Japanese Type 93 torpedoes were. They had a maximum range about four times that of US torpedoes, traveled at much higher speeds, and they didn't leave any telltale wake so they were very hard to see. American commanders expected torpedoes to be launched at around 10,000 yards but the Japanese would launch them at twice that range and in large spreads. The Americans commanders also didn't fully trust the use of radar in night battles, afraid they would be firing on their own ships. The early battles were brutal lessons.
Beyond excited to see you watch this one, You'll honestly see how different each war cinema was and how the pacific war managed to send them to the breaking point as well.
Two points here.
The American machine guns were good, but not as handy in combat as something like the German MG34 or 42. They were designed to be fired from a tripod and some were also water cooler, the ones with the big jacket on the barrel. They were good on defense, especially the watercooled, but the German types were more maneuverable and quicker to put in action.
You'll see later modifications to the air cooled version to make them more portable, akin to the MG34s. Some of those were actually taken from the rear gunner position of wrecked torpedo planes. These had a much higher rate of fire than the infantry variant and some were called "stingers".
The naval battle shown was one of many lost opportunities by the Japanese Navy. They pushed back the US and Australian combat ships but then left. Had they pushed a few more miles they could have been amongst the transports and done a lot of damage. At that time the US was not up to full production of ships, so sinking a number of them not only might have won them that island, but it would have set back US plans for months. As it was this campaign was stretching resources as some 80% of all war production was aimed at Europe.
It is possible that the Japanese were worried about US carriers, and rightly so. However, the gamble of sending at least the destroyers after the transports would have been worth it.
The Japanese destroyers seen after that was the "Tokyo Express". Some of them were destroyers modified as transports. This worked to move troops and some supplies, but not as much or efficiently as proper transports. So the Japanese could land troops and some heavy weapons but keeping them supplied was another matter.
Lastly, the not all of the Japanese units had jungle training. Most of them there suffered horribly in the jungle, especially with the poor Japanese supply system. They also had a habit of repeating attacks that had failed as seen here and will be seen again.
Well the water cooled machine gun was from WWI, not WWII. And the US Marines always got the short end of the stick when it comes to equipment.
@@catherinelw9365 It is what the Army had as well, though they may have had more of the air cooled version. It wasn't really until after WWII that a proper medium machine gun was developed.
They went from USA to New Zealand for further training and supply before the attack on Guadalcanal.
Mutilation of war dead was quite common in the Pacific and Asian theatre of the war. Both sides used propaganda to help dehumanize the enemy in different ways: Americans saw the Japanese as yellow monkeys in spectacles, whereas the Japanese saw Americans as hulking brutes that kill their own mothers as a right (rite?) of passage. Makes it a sort of self-fufilling prophecy in a way, in how the war would be conducted from there on out.
As someone that since the age of 2 grew up wanting to join the Marine Corps and has been denied due to health reasons, I will say it crushed me to the point it almost killed me. It was one of the most heartbreaking things I've had to deal with. There are only two things that hurt more than that. The loss of my Dad, and when I had to put down my childhood pup. However, I found a way to move on and am trying to find a different way to serve. Not everyone gets past it...
I hear ya man. I grew up wanting to be a medic and ended up being in a workplace accident at the age of 18 resulting in a crushed foot. I regained most of my feeling and movement but it starts crapping out around 5km so there's no way I can join anymore. Now my goal is to be a first responder as the requirements are very different and manageable. Sucks to have your dreams crushed but there's definitely other ways to serve, just your community instead of your nation.
@@matthewgill8332 I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis at 17 which made me ineligible. I agree that there are other ways, and I am looking into becoming an EMT/firefighter
I highly recommend Neptune's Inferno: The US Navy at Guadalcanal by James Hornfischer for more understanding of the land, air and sea engagements during the Guadalcanal campaign.
With his father I always felt that way with “he didn’t want to face it” I always thought him looking at the car and basically stalling time always made me feel like he didn’t want to say goodbye. I’m glad you mentioned it!
His concern about finding a new axel was also valid. Part of the rationing that was in place meant that fewer parts for civilian vehicles were being produced, if any at all.
@@Thane36425 true! I just like to assume he didn’t want to say bye :) lol
His father had mental illness issues after losing an older son.
@@LifeWithTim1 That, too, of course.
Another thing to remember is that most of their fathers were probably WW1 vets, they were well aware of the hell their sons were heading to.
MG crews had an asbestos glove for just such purposes. Don't lose it.
its apt that you referred to the fighting as no mercy. there was a very good book about the war in the Pacific called " War with no Mercy" I strongly recommend anyone interested in ww2 to read it, it is shocking the details are.
Also, the Marines of that period didn't have the same extensive training that us Marines of the more modern times get. Most of the training right up until Guadalcanal was more geared towards what everyone knew and that was WW1. Some of the older veterans had been in the Banana Wars in Central America during the 1920s and 30s and had some jungle warfare experience, but there weren't a whole lot of them to spread around the division units. Most of the men in the Marines at this point are recent join ups, what we today would refer to as "boots", meaning still going through their first year of service in the Fleet Marine Force.
Oh my god I love this miniserie from HBO! The pacific theater of war and all his horror and tragedy, way more dark than Band of Brothers, gets me every time and shows to the very realistic nature of war.. can't wait to see next episode! 👍🏻
Make sure you watch the version with the veteran interviews at the start of each episode, along sight the narration by Tom Hanks. Really adds a lot of context to each episode.
I enjoyed your reactions and comments on Band of Brothers, and I can already tell The Pacific with you will be a treat as well. I had an uncle in the Battle of the Bulge and my Dad was navy and island hopped in the Solomon Islands. Thanks! ♥
Some guys only had 2-3 weeks of basic training they were rushed to Guadalcanal to save Australia
People always seem to forget how loud this firefight is. These guys ears are practically exploding and can’t hear anything that anyone is yelling. Ear plugs were not standard issue, especially for Marines.😎
Leckie' lost a brother before the war- his Dad was never the same apparently, thus the cold sendoff.
Hush! What are you thinking?!
@@rollomaughfling380 It doesn't spoil anything for the series.
The TYPE of warthog was aged between the ETO and the PTO could not have been more different! For the combatants, the ETO lasted 10 months of fighting largely within the rules of engagement as outlined in the Geneva Convention.
The PTO was a savage brutal, no holds barred slugfest, Geneva Convention be damned! The Marines fought from early Aug, 1942 until mid Aug 1945, 3 years! Only once did they have R&R at a friendly port of call, Australia. The rest of the time they were laied up in territory that had been seized by the Japanese to rest and re-supply for the next assault. Quite a bit different from Winters getting a 48 hr pass to see the sights of Paris! Did I mention that they did this for THREE YEARS!
If you want another adaptation of the Guadalcanal campaign, i recommend the movie The Thin Red Line
So glad you're reacting to this. Too often the Pacific theater is ignored and unknown by many. I especially appreciate your immediate understanding why they toyed with that surviving Japanese soldier. It is so hard to watch, but it's true - after seeing your buddies tortured, killed and mutilated, you become furious and want revenge. Looking forward to the next episode!
13:50 He is carrying a Vickers Machine Gun
Its a massive machine gun lol
@@SofaandChill True it was a British MG developed in 1912.
Your viceabuelo was a hero!
You do a very good job of keeping up with all the small details.
That bonding you get from the training in Band of Brothers happens through the story telling. You'll get there. I think the abrupt beginning and overall brutality is why this series isn't quite as loved. The mood is more representative of how awful the fighting was and you're not reassured throughout about a happy ending.
I don't know how knowledgeable you are about the Pacific theater of war, but it was much harder on the soldiers and has always reminded me more of Vietnam than any other conflict. The Japanese were told not to surrender no matter what so fighting them did a lot of mental damage on the guys who were sometimes forced to kill senseless waves of people. This episode is a very good introduction to it.
Also remember, marines are always volunteers. No one here has been drafted.
You have to watch the War by Ken Burns you will see Phillip's and his sister it's amazing and rough
Eugene is played by the little boy from Jurrasic Park
I think machine gunners were even issued oven mitts to carry the machine gun with while it was hot. Insulated with the finest asbestos.
Yeah i wish the first episode of this was Marines training, how BoB showed the airborne training to start
26:19, Kev, if it were me, I wouldn't go digging too far into research into these campaigns/books if you don't want spoilers. Just watch the show. And like others have said, if you can find a way to watch the full, _actual_ episodes with the intros, you'll be much happier. One way to do this would be just order the original Tin box set ("One-day" delivery from Amazon here in the US). Don't worry, it'll get re-watched a lot. Whatever HBO exec/production house in charge of converting this for streaming wherever you're watching it *really* screwed the pooch on that.
You're doing it right, with these series, man.
I've not read the other two but I HAVE read the third one. The title of the book is:
With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa
It's absolutely fantastic. Harrowing but down to earth and utterly straight forward. A+ cannot recommend it highly enough.
With the Old Breed is probably one of the greatest War memiors ever written, up there with Storm of Steel from WW1
been looking forward to this for weeks now can’t wait to watch you react to the whole series. This series is different from band of brothers as that show shows us the bond soldiers share during wartime, where as this show shows the brutality of war and the effect it has on the soldiers involved. Can’t wait to be along for the ride!
I loved your reaction! Please watch the historical interviews at the beginning (like you did with Band of Brothers), as it all ties in. And try guessing which of the characters are the old men!
Hard to see who is doing what, but Basilone is the leader on the machine guns. It is an old style water-cooled machine gun. It had its disadvantages, but I understand it was very effective.
What's up man just wanted to know when is your next Vikings reaction also I'm a little late but Happy Birthday
Thanks bro, not until Saturday but it is episode 4 and 5 of season 4. I am doing 2 at a time from now on :)
@@SofaandChill cool man thanks again
Awesome! I was waiting for this since you finished Band of Brothers! 🤩
Good review
Japanese ran up The Slot, taking supplied and men to Guadacanal, and taking pot shots at the Marines, and sending air attacks at the US occupied runway, which had its own Cactus Air Force. The Japanese loved to attack at night, in Banzai charges (early in the war). Later they played defense instead of offense, because our firepower. Nobody knows how they will react, until the first bullet passes your ear. Neither side wanted to take prisoners, after they saw Japanese suicide tactics, not a one day thing at D-Day. At times, Japanese officers had a cult of eating enemy flesh.
LET'S GOOO hoo boy glad you rolled right into this
I know it was a different time and people behaved differently. But it’s impossible for me to imagine a world where my dad and I wouldn’t hug each other, especially in that kind of situation
Oh damn here we go...
They are a .30cal heavy machine gun squad. No a mortar squad.
This is very different from BoB but still as amazing. Personally, I think it picks up and gets even more intense starting the 5th episode. Keen for more!
leckie is carrying a water cooled machine gun
Yeah, doing the whole training thing again would've been redundant, i feel. Hanks and co. Already did that in Band of Brothers so we didn't need to spend an episode going through all that again. Also, the campaign for the Marines was MUCH longer than the 101st. By the time Easy Company landed in Normandy, it was already 1944. Guadalcanal was MUCH earlier and this story takes us throughout the war so pacing was important this time around.
Just wait until you see John Basilone's story play out...that man achieved GOD status in the Marine Corps and that is no exaggeration as only a handful of men have ever become God's among a Corps of heroes and legends.
I can't argue with people who say BoB was better but I've always like The Pacific more. It's more personal and engaging. Also, I have a thing for the Marines, I guess. (On that note, when you're done with this consider watching Generation Kill, it's another HBO miniseries but it's about the USMC 1st Reconnaissance Battalion in the early stages of the Iraq War. It's a lot more lighthearted and funny but still plenty of intense moments.)
I had 16 family members in world war 2 in some capacity 10 were combat arms the others while still just as important were in supply logistics etc. but 8 were in the pacific my great grandfather started his 2nd war at hickams field as a instructor to the army air corps on survival tactics if they were to be shot down he had taken my grandmother who was 13 at the time to the movies that Saturday night and woke up to the bombings at Pearl Harbor he took my grandmother to a nearby air raid shelter and then drove to hickams to begin the war later down the road after Pearl Harbor a young man walked into his company barracks and introduced himself he would later marry my grandmother after years at war in the pacific his first battle was Guadalcanal with my great grandfather as the platoon sergeant after he had transferred from the air corps back to the infantry.
At this point in the war neither side was really trained in jungle warfare they were both just kinda still figuring things out as they went. Contrary to popular belief there are no Jungles in Japan and the only real Jungle experience the Japanese had came after 7 December 1941. And with the Marines they had had Jungle fighting experience during the Banana Wars but no formal Jungle school had been established at this point in USMC history. In fact at this point in the war basic training had actually been cut in half to get the Corps up to war time strength in the minimum time alloted.
In Europe the Army carried the.30 air cooled light Machine gun
Having study the history of the War I knew that the War in the Pacific War brutalized the dead wounded and the survivors
I actually prefer The Pacific to Band of Brothers. It may be my bias with a grandfather of mine serving in that part of WWII. But it may start feeling a bit off, but halfway through, you love these men just as much as those in Band of Brothers.
Hi , yeah .. finally The Pacific . This show is not better or worse than BoB , its just different . I know you will enjoy it . Btw wasnt there some kind of interview of veterans before intro titles ? or maybe i have just different version of the show .
Keep an eye on young Eugene :)
Not going to be a spoiler. But it's hard to imagine that one war could be more brutal than another. How could something be more brutal than Bastogne? But due to tactics and the jungle, it just was. A good series with real people though like B of B.
Buckle up, brother. That's all I can say now.
Nice reaction bro. Just so you know. a common misperception is that the Japanese were trained in jungle fighting and the heat. Totally false. The Japanese had a much harder time adapting, in many cases.
Gets really vicious episode 5
I am sure the subject will come up on multiple occasions, but you should be prepared for the fact that the war in the Pacific was much more brutal than the war in Europe...it was much more like the worst areas of the Eastern Front. This is a statistically verified fact, and the makers of the show are very good at finding ways to make that brutality seem very real.
It is true that many more casualties happened for the US in the European theater of WW2, but that is because of a much larger number of men involved, the Pacific had a far higher rate of casualties AND death than in the Europe. When comparing the amphibious campaigns in the Pacific...like Guadalcanal, Peleliu and the rest...versus the battles of Europe...such as Sicily, Normandy, or The Ardennes...the casualty rate was around 5.5 vs about 1.75. That is how many men per thousand were wounded per day. The difference in death rates was even higher...with 1.78 deaths per thousand per day in the Pacific versus about .36 deaths per day per thousand men in Europe. ✌💯
If I were alive at the time, I would have preferred to join the army and fight in Europe. 😎
Band of Brothers is the better series, but this is more brutal. They were fighting an enemy that didn’t believe in being taken prisoner, so they didn’t respect those who surrendered to them. The Pacific and the Eastern Front of WWII really show the brutality of total war with a no-prisoners approach.
I had a difficult time with this series. Because I couldn't tell some of the guys apart.
I do feel they should have kept in line with the battles and less of the romp back home with Bassilone for example. There is less of a brotherhood feel here, less training and friendship bonding. Something was always off with the series as a whole.
Good thing to look out for in the early eps. look at the out dated equipment the marines are fighting with compared to later on.
Still a great show though.
well that's the main difference. Band of brothers follows one group and all its members experiences... The Pacific follows the experiences of 3 men, one who is a well documented Legend (Basilone) and the other two from their memoirs. It doesn't have the benefit of a wide view on the whole unit that Band Of Brothers did. It's not about the unit. It's about Leckie or Sledge