The Ultimate shifting experience with Active Shifter
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- The Bash Pro Active shifter is the first in the sim racing industry to give real time feedback end prevent shifting without a clutch ! It has also Dog-Box Mod in which shifting is possible without clutch but only if the motor revs are within the proper RPM range and for bonus have SQ mod !
Fully sync trough SimHub with iRacing , Assetto Corsa , Automobilista 2 rFactor 2
Find more here- mvhstudios.co....
Very happy MVH is finally getting the proper recognition they deserve!
I hope so for 5x the price as the others lol
Yeah I've bought their qr for my g29 and one of their wheels. Brought new life to my g29
It was all worth it for the 10 minutes of fame. Awesome job on the video, mate. ;)
Bro, you have done something incredible which is changing the sim world 💪🤗
Been following this shifter for years when you've posted updates. Thought maybe it go canceled, but you made it! Congratulations! Mine is already in the mail from MVHStudios, and I can't wait!
Now I need to send you the SRT gearbox to compare...
Games should directly output informations about is the shifter should be locked or not...
I'd love to see RBM do a video on your shifter.
Absolutely.
Yes please!!
Go sir!!!!
You did a great job with this review and reminded us of some important things. If it wasn't for the DIY'ers thinking outside the box these companies that over charge wouldn't know where to begin. I'm glad I saw for myself the best of sim racing comes from the community and that caused me to buy a 3d printer and begin my own DIY build. I'll have something better than the mainstream equipment for a fraction of the price and I'll be proud that I built it myself. I was impressed by this shifter when I saw it an would have been interested to build it but I kept searching and found something I like more. I think I may even see you review it soon! You do a good thing by shedding light on these guys. Active shifters will separate the men from the boys and reveal some real lap times.
I would love to 😃
it would be great to see that!
Thanks mate for all your hard work on this channel
I never was into sim racing but sind I saw your channel I started saving up to buy myself a racing rig
Danke und mach so weiter👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for the support buddy 🤗
Sim Racing is beautiful world buddy 😃
Between this and active pedals, learning to drive stick from home, for real, is going to be possible soon. And of course for those of us who love to drive stick, it's gonna be a delight to have that feeling of engagement recreated in the sim.
If only they would produce more consumer level manual vehicles 😢😢
I need this! I have too many shifters and being able to ditch ALL 3 of them for ONE singular shifter that does everything I want is right up my alley!
I have one and really love it. It adds so much immersion
with stuff like this being created ... the future looks amazing ( for a price )
Absolutely agree 😃
You sir are causing me to go bankrupt, your reviews should have a :WARNING: attached to them 😆. Def will be getting in line for an order!
I’m sorry brother 🙈
Hope you will get one and enjoy it to max 😁
@@chepilevski You can bet I will, I was hoping for a shifter like this to come out which is why I never moved on from my Fanatec CS shifter.
no fckng way, how did i not see this yet
Thank you for showcasing the pendulum/spring effect in neutral. To me it's important to be as minimal as possible.
I have resently upgraded my rig substantially. Simucube 2 Pro, Asher F28-SC V2 wheel, Sparco GT seat, track racer TR120 rig, Asetek Invicta S-Series pedals.
I was on the waitinglist for this shifter also, but I dropped out and left my Fanatec shifter still on the rig. Mainly because I never use the shifter 😂 But of I did, I would definitely buy this! 😎
I was also going to buy a throttle and brake of the Simucube Active Pedal. But no matter how much I thought about it, I never could justify the price, you know 🤔 I know that pedal is an experience from another world 😎 But still, I just do not think it is worth that much cash. I could pay, but I wont. If you know what I mean 😂
Anyway, enough of me rambling about everything here 😂 LOVE your setup and your videos! 😎👌
I understand exactly what you mean brother 😁
This is the most game changing upgrade I did to my rig right after simu 2 pro, had tm, fana and a couple of other h shifters but never liked diving the stick in sim so didn't care much, i mainly do gt3 with paddles, but... since getting this shifter I stopped driving anything that wasnt made before 1990 :D it is so emersive that my mind is blown each time i change gears, now just need active pedals, full motion and i can start traning to become a real racing driver lol
Your shifter is very special. That is the first one of the final design ever made. It is probably more than 2 years old. The same one I used in many of my driving videos. :)
@@gerzsone30 nice, I didn't know that, makes my shifter even more awesome and special :)
Good to hear the history en develpment of a product ..👍👊
How does this compare to BDH or Prosim H Pattern?
Got mine and absolutely love it.
It is brutal 😁
have you experience the bdh shifter? that is my target, but now this active shifter looks interesting.
amazing stuff!! thanks for sharing the story! nowdays where most things are made by robots it's important to keep that value that is behind things given by people's passion and creativity
Yes man , the human factor behind give much more value for me too 😃
I've been using the Japanese brand "Frex" with a mechanical clutch lockout and mechanism directly connected to the clutch pedal. It was an add-on option with their shifter. It would be interesting if you could compare the active lockout shifter with the Frex.
You should really try Lebois SRT 9.... its awesome!!!!
All our peripherals for gaming should be force feedback it's so much better, not just for the ffb effects but for the customisation that ffb allows
Absolutely agree buddy 😃
Ugh im gonna go the SRT route but these look so cool. Also you should pull out your Cammus and do the new update that just came out they've really upped the intensity of the details. Ive also been testing the new LC-100 pedals and they've been really nice you should reach out and see if they can send you a review set. They've been really going wild on the new entry level gear lately and its pushed them to do regular updates on the software side.
Thx buddy 🤛
I should definitely revisit the Cammus 😃
I'm really surprised, I saw sincere enthusiasm in your story. Well, I start preparing my wife for yet another shopping. Too bad it's sold out at the moment.
😁
This thing is so different man 😃
If that helps, my wife told me to tell you guys, she approves. We live in a single room apartment and the rig you saw in the video is in the center of the room. :D
@@gerzsone30 You're lucky, I have a workstation in a room just for me, on another floor of the house, but sometimes come in and check that there's nothing new....😁
I wish you had the VNM, great shifter to compare
I have the new VNM SQ shifter here and I’m really impressed from it💪
Soon will make video about it buddy 🤛
I don't mean this in any way bad, RBM, as there are always those people searching for the ultimate in realism... But it's funny how you could argue that all this high end gear COULD? actually end up making you slower overall, simply from the point of view that you have to be sooooooo precise (just like in a real race car) just to get your virtual vehicle to move fast(er). Awesome Hardware Overview
Absolutely brother!
Sim Racing have many faces and people are looking for different things!
Some want to drive as fast as possible and times are everything, other want ultimate driving experience without even competing !
I am in both worlds and switching all the time and honestly both experiences are completely different and I use completely different settings on my rig 😃
I feel lucky to be that way as it is never boring for me 😁
It's the same when you enable auto clutch or use pale shifters on old car, or use bite point on a car that doesn't have it irl, but that's two different experiences, either go fast or have super realistic setup, this shifter is definitely for ppl that want the latter, though the ultimate goal is to be super fast on realistic setup :D
pure magic Mate
After rebuilding the actual transmission in my car, I can say with confidence that just like the cheapy G29 shifter, my real car uses detent with springs, in fact stiffer springs is a common mod for the S2000 shifter. Lol it looks like the other shifters simulate busted motor mounts.
Hi, could you try out the sim jack pro pedals they seem to be a cheap competitor in the load cell market.
Hi buddy, I would love to if I have chance!
Love affordable gear 😃
Ok here 🔥 🙏🏼🖤
It looks so promising, great potential, but I do wonder about quality, support and durability. It's quite expensive so these are important things to know.
I hope we'll see more reviews about the Bash Pro
I think this company is on the market for quite some time and I’ve heard positive feedback!
As you’ve said is expensive gear and needs very good support🤛
@@chepilevski The features for this shifter are great. Really adds so much immersion when driving classics. If the support and durability is there it'll be top of the wishlist.
Thanks for making this video mate!
@@RacingisLif3 I believe the support will be there as that’s something he works for so many years and talking with him in person, he looks so passionate about this project!
It is expensive gear and I don’t believe he will sale so many units to not be able to keep up but time will show I guess!
The product itself looks like mechanically there is nothing to go wrong as is built like a tank and the electronics are high end but of course there is always slight chance for failure even if is Porsche or Mercedes product 😁
But as you’ve said, it is one of the kind 💪
@@chepilevski Thank you for your insights! Really appreciate it
I did buy this shifter and got it recently. Support, design and build quality by MVH Studio is superb! The shifter feels amazing and is so well designed on both hardware and software side. Expensive but worth it for H-pattern enthusiasts! @@chepilevski
Can you share your opinion about Moza vs simagic shifter? Which one do you prefer and why
"This shifter is making my life miserable.. and I love it!" 😂
Hi Mate. Great review as usual. Are u still using it after one year? I never see it in your rig when u make new videos. Ty
Man, it is seating on the shelf as I have to constantly test something on that rig but I need to find time and set it up and do another video with all the updates.
Ty. I was thinking to pull the trigger and buy one. I love driving Lotus 79 in iRacing. Should I buy one for this car?
@@domenicofranco6246 man, if you like realism and next level difficulty this is for sure the best you can get.
The challenge to be actually precise in shifting is beautiful 😁
And if it’s not to much can you make a video with what kind PC setup you running the rig
Thanks mate
im still trying to kill my logitech shifter so I can justify something new, but for that price I may need to be a little extra patient :) I guess this is really the only shifter one would ever need!
Do you by any chance know what the dimensions of the shifter thread is? I use a 10 inch shifter extension on my Fanatec Shifter for sim trucking, Fanatec thread size is a 12x1.25. Would be great if it fits on this shifter. Awesome videos as always man thank you! Edit, I see in the manual its M8 1.25. They didn’t hav the manual up before!
Hey buddy, I’m m not home but will try to give you that info ones I’m back !
M10x1.5 (Honda thread pattern)
Edit - The M8x1.25 you mentioned is the thread at the bottom of the shaft, which goes into the shifter itself. The shift knob thread is M10x1.5.
We need more from OTIS !
Agree!!
Hi, can I ask what is the SQ shifter that you showed here? Looks really good!
Is this one buddy
ruclips.net/video/oe6_eNowaos/видео.html
Thank you, awesome video bro! How do you engage reverse with this shifter if it has only 6 gates?
Starting from neutral, you push it to the left, then immediately to right and down (into 6th). In game, it would only let you in if you are moving very slowly or stopped.
@@gerzsone30 Thank you very much. That is really disappointing.
@@toniewaznetoteznie8039 I don't see why that would be disappointing. There are 6 gears and a reverse. Yes, there is no 7th gear.
@@gerzsone30 Don't get me wrong, that looks like a great product.
I'm looking for realistic operation of my virtual vehicles. I've never seen reverse gear being engaged in this way on a real car. Maybe next version of the shifter will have 8 gears or maybe I just got to build my own. Time will tell.
I guess I'm buying second Fanatec shifter while keeping an eye on this project.
Good luck!
I will buy it I have sim magic
I wish I could bring my self to pay for such a beautiful product but sadly I don't use a H pattern enough tp spend that type of money but still amazing time to be a sim racer.
@Race Beyond Matter I noticed when your turning your wheel you get a lot of movement from your actual monitors and you can see the screens wobbling. Is there any reason why this is noticeable now as I've never seen that much flex in your rig before. At 3:11 see all three movement in your screens ive never seen that before.
Yes buddy, I use new wheel base which haven’t mounted properly and noticed that movement on the video editing like you !
I need to put the base 1cm lower to solve that
@@chepilevski was just curious because I knew something was different as ive never noticed that before.
Have a great weekend brother.
@@Simlife101 thx bro 🤛
Only a grand, can I have one for each hand please, I mean it's not like the steering wheel matters for me :) I will have to make do with tiptronic paddles for now., looks nice man!
I currently have the DD 8NM with V3 pedals and GT3 wheel.
What would you upgrade to if you had 2000 euros to spend?
hi friend, could you tell me at what height you have the gearbox from the ground thanks very kind
@Race Beyond Matter Is it possible to "pre-load" the next gate. I.e. If I put pressure on the shifter in synch mode, will the gate unlock when the clutch is engaged, or will it bind due to the pressure applied toward the closing mechanism?
I haven’t tested exactly that scenario but I know if I’m not careful with the clutch I hit closed gate !
I’m almost sure it won’t open but must test that ones I’m home
@@chepilevski Awesome. So just to clarify, being in Synch mode and natural gear, without the clutch pressed, put pressure on the shifter towards a gate, then depress clutch. Does the gear go in or does it bind? Hopefully it does not bind as it should be possible to "pre-load" the a real synch shifter (up to the limit where you start "grinding teeth") and have it "pop-in gear" when the clutch is pressed.
@Tom Erik you can push on it as hard as you can and 1. it doesn't seem to have a force limit, ie can't 'make it' go in until revs/clutch, 2. As soon as you push the clutch the gear goes in, ie don't need to move the stick back to N, happened to me multiple times when I got the revs wrong and had to quickly push clutch lol, this shifter really doesn't forgive mistakes
@@aloowakp that sounds awesome! I really can’t wait for the shipping company deliver soon.
There is a setting that lets you choose if you want it to be "strict". Either you can preload it and press the clutch to engage, or in the other mode pressing the clutch is not enough, but you have to let go of the stick and re-engage. Whichever suits your taste. Or the third option is, let the game decide, however the developers intended it to work.
this is a dream.
i was on waiting list but the price is too high for me :(
Wow, how did you see that video buddy?
I haven’t make public yet but you commented on it 😮
It is expensive indeed buddy !
@@chepilevski I am a huge fan 😁
@@shikoXcore 🤗❤️😁
About the e-cluch, does this model go further in immersion than the shifter "NSH SimGear" (based on the "SRT by Lebois" project)? Shifting without clutch, using the right engine speed, like in a real car, is so realistic, I'm fascinated.
That’s the dog box feature 😃
@@chepilevski Sorry I don't understand English expressions (I'm French 😊)
@@victosab
la boîte à chien est la transmission qui n'a pas besoin d'embrayage ! cette boîte de vitesses peut être utilisée sans embrayage si le moteur a le bon régime
@@chepilevski Oh yes sorry I see, that's its name in Simlab :-)
I got a problem with my Simedal X-GT and it’s just new 😢
I’m all in for iRacing and set everything up and suddenly after a week my 2 clutch paddles don’t work anymore and I don’t know why because it worked just fine from the beginning…
Iracing doesn’t recognize clutch paddles anymore 😕
But the wheel shifters does work so upshift & downshift no problem at all.
Do you maybe know why the clutch paddles don’t work and maybe have a solution or is it a faulty product 😭
Oh bro, you must contact the reseller immediately!
I don’t know what that can be as those are magnetic potentiometer and must work like forever!
Contact them buddy!
it would be interesting to see how this works with beamng as it now also simulates gears scratching...
Hi Mate. Any discount code to buy it?ty
Hi man, I don’t have any links or discount codes buddy 🙈
Does somebody have an accurate dimensions sketch for the Bash Pro? I’d like to design and print a mounting solution for my rig before it arrives, but have not found any dimension except the 60x60mm hole pattern in the manual.
Hey Tom, find me on Instagram and will share photos with you
Well, looks like I'll be working a bit more overtime...
Can someone tell me which sims and which cars still use an H pattern?? I love to buy one but it seems like a dying breed. smh.
Man you cant compare a $1000 plus shifter to a $149 shifter like the moza i know the moza is super good honestly this video says allot about them moza shifter if your comparing it to that bash pro shifter that's over a grand lol i know they Moza one is the best feeling shifter ive used and imo its the best h pattern under $1000 dollars well except the simagic one its really good to anything else feels like a toy lioking at you $200 th8aand fanatec unless your using it in sequential mode the h pattern mode sucks compared to moza
Calm down mate.
Real cars I know don't have active shifters. Or do they?
The active shifter just avoid shifting when is not in sync just as it works with real cars when we don’t synchronize all the movements in time!
Is just simulation
Pro Sim have had an active shifter for sale for a few years now.
I know buddy but they are different concepts
Has the Pro Sim active shifter module ever been available to buy? I’ve been on the mailing list for several years and never have I got a mail saying it’s available. So I think that is still in development and not available to buy yet.
so expensive tho😔
Yeh buddy, it is definitely expensive gear but for what it is really worth every penny in my opinion 💪
for 1.1k i can buy a car with a real shifter
That true but and you even buy 2 cars but what have that to do with this 🤔
This here is Simracing not real cars!
Two different things
@@chepilevski very expensive still and i know since i m sim racer
@@mesfigas it is expensive indeed as every new tech man !
There are shifters way more expensive then that without offering those features !
I’m not here to judge the other people work worth but I believe is fair priced for what exist on the current sim market! Imagine if that was half the price!
Would kill every other existing shifter and that won’t be fair except for us but that’s the only way tech to improve!
Is the the way I see it !
rofl it cost them 100$ to make and they selling it for 1300$
Please don't forget the years of R&D that went into the Bash Pro.
That’s so misunderstood to think like that. R&D has been mentioned. This shifter has been in the works for 5 years. Also, it’s a very niche product, which always means it has a high price due to not many units produced. I.e. a low economy of scale.
A new iPhone today costs what? 1000$? What do you think it would cost if the entire R&D cost plus cost of manufacturing was divided by say 500 purchases? It would probably be in the millions per phone.
It is always funny to me wen i read comments like that 😁
How you figure the 100?
Cutting individually each part on machine soldered bay hand and years for endless development of hardware and software !
I would love to see you produce something like this even just having all those parts for free and putting them together will cost you time worth more then 100 🤣
Always amazed with that way of thinking 😁
Let's not go into how much lasercut stainless steel costs alone, not to mention many more custom made CNC machined parts. They won't give them for free.
@@chepilevski how i figured that out mr sellout? il tell you, by lookibg at other shifter who use the same amount of engerring to them but still cost a fraction