Is Abu Hurayrah a Reliable Hadith Narrator? with Abdullah Al-Rabbat

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  • @rexlex7784
    @rexlex7784 Год назад +56

    This is a pure masterpiece. May Allah bless you all for disseminating such invaluable ilm

    • @sorais8130
      @sorais8130 Год назад +5

      Lol all of the ridiculous hadith which gives a bad image to our prophet comes from this Abu huraira.

    • @thehacker645
      @thehacker645 Год назад

      @@sorais8130 if what u said is really what you mean, then u just took yourself out of the fold of islam. May Allah swt bring u back to the straight path. ameen.

    • @sorais8130
      @sorais8130 Год назад +2

      @@thehacker645 bruh seriously just because i reject ridiculous nonsensical hadith, i am not muslim now !? 😂

    • @thehacker645
      @thehacker645 Год назад

      @@sorais8130 not just that, by doing so you went against the Quran without even realizing it.

    • @sorais8130
      @sorais8130 Год назад

      @@thehacker645 it is u who don't want to realize. Now don't even call me Shia because i am speaking against Abu Huraira, i just think there were a serious problem on the account of Abu Hurairah.
      Let me ask u something, Do u honestly believe that Prophet Adam was created in the Likeness of the image of Allah ?

  • @Kinderlieder-Kindergeschichte
    @Kinderlieder-Kindergeschichte Год назад +93

    I didn't know Abu Hurairah radiAllahu anhu also learned 2 extra languages as an adult, that's very impressive! Allah blessed him with great memory.

    • @laputa4825
      @laputa4825 Год назад +1

      What were those languages?

    • @rohaizatraub61
      @rohaizatraub61 Год назад +4

      well, you're right..
      besides Arabic, Abu Hurairah was also conversant with the Persian and Abyssinian languages.. mashallah..
      😜😜😜

    • @Kinderlieder-Kindergeschichte
      @Kinderlieder-Kindergeschichte Год назад +2

      @@laputa4825 arabic (native, multiple dialects), persian (fluent), assyrian (at least basic)

    • @DigitalWaqf
      @DigitalWaqf Год назад +3

      @@Kinderlieder-Kindergeschichte not Assyrian, Abyssinian (Ethiopian) or Ge’ez

    • @Lion-Dude
      @Lion-Dude Год назад

      @@Kinderlieder-Kindergeschichte Sprechen Sie deutsch ?

  • @dxxnish7170
    @dxxnish7170 Год назад +84

    Abu Huraira reported: I said, “O Messenger of Allah, I hear many traditions from you and I forget them.” The Prophet said, *“Spread open your garment.”* I spread it and then he placed something from his hand into it, saying, *“Wrap it.”* I wrapped it around me and I never forgot a tradition ever again.
    [Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3448]

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 Год назад +30

      Indeed, many people don’t realize that we have an authentic hadith where Rasool Allah Muhammad (ﷺ) made du’aa for Abu Hurayrah (Radhiya Allah ‘Aanhu) to gain knowledge that is not forgotten, and the latter’s phenomenal memory actually was one of the miracles of Rasool Allah (ﷺ).

    • @Mxne.
      @Mxne. Год назад +6

      @@samy7013 Thats amazing

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 Год назад +22

      @@Mxne. : Indeed. There are also multiple authentic hadiths where the Sahhaba (RAA) testify to Abu Hurayrah’s (RAA) knowledge of hadith. Also, when all is said and done, there are only roughly 114 sahih musnad hadiths or so (I forgot the exact number) that are uniquely narrated through Abu Hurayrah (RAA). Over 95% of his hadiths are corroborated by other Sahhaba (RAA) who also heard them directly from Rasool Allah Muhammad (ﷺ).
      The reliability of Abu Hurayrah (RAA) in hadith is unquestionably solid, and for me personally, as a person who in my youth was (for a while) taken in by the lies and misrepresentations of the hadith rejectors (May Allah forgive me), I have absolutely no hesitation today whatsoever to accept the sahih musnad hadiths of Abu Hurayrah (RAA)-even if they are hadith ahhaad-and to consider them a binding part of the religion of Islam, binding upon me. Allah be my witness!

    • @Oxygen11115
      @Oxygen11115 Год назад +13

      This report sounds rather suspicious

    • @Kinderlieder-Kindergeschichte
      @Kinderlieder-Kindergeschichte Год назад +6

      Moon splitting and water gushing from the hands of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him are more plausible to you? Either accept this deen or reject, you can't pick and choose.

  • @neilcastro836
    @neilcastro836 Год назад +30

    brother Paul in fact i was able to listen to the entire discussion on the companion Abu Huraira may Allah be pleased with him and his works. I think this is one of the best and most informative interviews do far. I want to thank both brothers host and presenter, this conversation couldn't have probably gone for another hour max because that's so much that we don't know and it'll be great to hear from the other narrators of Hadeeth likewise. Jazak Allahu Khayran.

    • @r_elyaqub8214
      @r_elyaqub8214 Год назад +1

      I agree completely. Maybe break the recording in 3 parts. I typically finish watching 3 hour videos in 2 to 3 parts. Never in one go.

    • @enesabdulla5872
      @enesabdulla5872 Год назад +2

      @@r_elyaqub8214 I disagree. what is the problem with watching it in 3 parts? if anything, it is nice that they put it in one place, like an organized archive, and also that the host and the speaker don't give breaks. otherwise, they could lose focus.
      but still, I think both partitioning and this method are fine.

    • @JohnnieWalkerGreen
      @JohnnieWalkerGreen Год назад +1

      @neilcastro836 I agree, it was a great presentation! The presentation was straightforward, without sugarcoating at all.

  • @sabetsrs4180
    @sabetsrs4180 Год назад +9

    May Allah keep you in the straight path, paul.. You are truly a gem for the ummah by sharing profound knowledge of Islam.. I am a huge fan of your work, May Allah bless you..

  • @TheAsianVids
    @TheAsianVids Год назад +10

    Thank you so much Paul!! You read my mind. Haven't even watched it yet, but for the last few weeks have been thinking about this issue and contacting differeng imams/youtubers asking them to address this. Excited to listen to the entire 4 hour video :)

  • @user-ci2bq6jm2r
    @user-ci2bq6jm2r Год назад +10

    Paul Accepting Islam and Creating Islam is a Miracle In Itself We Common Muslims Got to Learn a Hell Lot of Information Just Because of His Curiosity about Islam I Wish With More and More Europeans Accepting Islam, We Would See the Rise of Islam Again This Time from a Place Nobody Expected

  • @Leila0S
    @Leila0S Год назад +11

    Hello Paul,
    Here I add a link of a testimony of the newly convrt priest Hilarion Higgy in which he mentions you as a source who helped him educate himself about Islam.
    You must feel honored about the kind, soft effect you make in peopls' lives. I envy you and trust that you deserve the blessings of your good work and intention.

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  Год назад +8

      Alhamdulillah

    • @CLBOO6
      @CLBOO6 Год назад +2

      I really hope you can invite him as guest one day Insya-Allah.

  • @bella_m23
    @bella_m23 Год назад +15

    As a child, I remember being amused & feeling joy whenever I heard the nickname of this narrator. Abu-Hurairah (father/he with a kitten), a kitten used to sit on top of his cloak if I'm not mistaken
    Thank you for posting this.

  • @HappyBloke81
    @HappyBloke81 Год назад +17

    This channel is a library that is always growing . İt's like a 21st century "checkpoint" or reference point: for lack of a better explanation it's like "here is where we are at as of the years 2000 in human history , in terms of religion and this is the the historical data we have from the past". So if anyone from the future was to look back, they could see all the various data and references. İf TV were still a thing, this would make a great tv show. Sort of like national geographic but for religion

  • @2murie
    @2murie Год назад +4

    This is of another class altogether!!! A superb speaker and an excellent host!!! May Allah shower his blessings on you brothers!!

  • @aksalafi
    @aksalafi 8 месяцев назад +1

    As Abu Hurairah narrated the most hadeeeth it makes sense that some of the enemies of Islam woukd try to degrade Abu Hurairah and his hadeeth. Indirectly harming Islam is their hope.
    Some try to attack hadeeth completely and wish for Muslims to completely dismiss all hadeeth.
    May Allah be pleased with Abu Hurairah and grant him the highest level in Jannah. Ameen.
    May Allah bless both brothers in this presentation. Ameen.

  • @khoyrulislam
    @khoyrulislam Год назад +4

    Just finished listening to this. Amazing جزاكم الله خيرا

  • @arkadashh
    @arkadashh Год назад +6

    what a young but barakallah competent scholar we've got

    • @arkadashh
      @arkadashh Год назад

      meanwhile Abdullah's last remarks are so precious which has made me cry indeed

  • @munibcodm
    @munibcodm Год назад +4

    Great to see Abdullah Al-Rabbat on the channel!

  • @TheMadMamluks
    @TheMadMamluks Год назад +2

    Much needed lecture, may Allah (swt) bless this channel and you both! Ameen

  • @kamlasayeen
    @kamlasayeen Год назад +7

    This was a very well timed video since I have been wondering about this exact topic for quite some time. Though I am still not fully convinced about the reliability of Abu Huraira, I appreciate brother Abdullah's effort nonetheless. JAK.

    • @HajjiJesus
      @HajjiJesus Год назад +6

      Shia are the only one throwing doubts about Abu Hureira RA. Did that affect you?
      They don't have single Authentic Hadith, so it makes sense for them to throw dirt and see what sticks.

    • @thesabiqoon4178
      @thesabiqoon4178 Год назад +4

      I am surprised you are not convinced about the reliability

    • @irshadmohammed6539
      @irshadmohammed6539 Год назад

      Here is series dealing in precise detail about hadith, look at point no. 8, a whole PhD on Abu hurayra:
      ruclips.net/video/zy9zNrxq6eE/видео.html
      It has been mentioned in the series.

    • @kay1057
      @kay1057 Год назад

      You are a Muslim and you are doubting the Sahabah?

    • @kamlasayeen
      @kamlasayeen Год назад +4

      @@kay1057 forgive me for having a healthy skepticism towards other people. I don't doubt Islam, allah, nor our messenger ofc. I doubt peoples' subjective understanding of these matters.

  • @sikomode224
    @sikomode224 Год назад +5

    Brother you were mentioned by our new convert priest in references the article is in Medium website by our new brother in faith Said Abdul Latif.
    may Allah bless you and grant you and us the best in this world and hereafter

  • @karimunjawa9768
    @karimunjawa9768 Год назад +4

    Thank you so very much for The Source & all admin ..... Alhamdulillah 🤲

  • @stevenv6463
    @stevenv6463 Год назад +2

    This channel is such a treasure trove. From NT scholarship to Hadith studies to philosophy and theology. May God bless your endeavors.
    It would be great to get a lecture on Kaab al Ahbar. I believe he is also cited about building at al Aqsa in the time of Umar's (ra) khilafa. The israeilyat literature is very interesting. Anas ibn Malik (ra) also seemed really interested in these sources.

  • @ahmedalotaibi4477
    @ahmedalotaibi4477 Год назад +1

    A great lecturer
    We ask Allah Almighty to reward you and reward Brother Abdullah Al-Rabat the great reward

  • @azzkam8972
    @azzkam8972 Год назад +2

    Brilliant insight may Allah reward you abundantly for this meticulous work Aameen.

  • @hoopoe9629
    @hoopoe9629 Год назад +2

    I learned a lot. May Allah SWT reward you all.

  • @saeedkhalifeh8730
    @saeedkhalifeh8730 Год назад +7

    You should interview a hanafi scholar to speak about their criticism of some of Abu Huraira’s narrations.

    • @shayanelahi4232
      @shayanelahi4232 Год назад +2

      @@yottwr6108 the issue is not about sects, it’s about hearing all sides and letting people make up their mind. As far as sects are concerned, even Talibans have become a sect.

    • @shayanelahi4232
      @shayanelahi4232 Год назад +1

      @@yottwr6108 depends on the subject matter. If you are suggesting that some things are not open to interpretation, then obviously you’re not correct. Besides this channel is for intellectual debate about various religious topics, so the very idea is to present many POV to have a healthy debate / discussion, which has been sorely lacking in the larger Muslim community / culture.

    • @shayanelahi4232
      @shayanelahi4232 Год назад

      @@yottwr6108 lol yes you’re a perfect example of what a Muslim should not be. You give us all a bad name! Good luck to you !

    • @DAWAHTIME1
      @DAWAHTIME1 Год назад

      You can check it out yourself.
      Only criticism : when something goes against their fiqh. They have the effrontery and arrogance of calling him ghair faqih and themselves more able.
      More of an idiotic attitude than a scholarly approach

    • @shayanelahi4232
      @shayanelahi4232 Год назад

      @@yottwr6108 and you show your true colors as an extremist lunatic who can’t discuss a topic but loves to bully under a fake name- now that’s real hypocrisy! :)

  • @uuba2
    @uuba2 Год назад +3

    Very interesting and informative presentation! 👍

  • @yazidyusop
    @yazidyusop Год назад +1

    MasyaAllah. Jazakallah khairan brother Abdullah for this great insight.

  • @MohamedShou
    @MohamedShou Год назад +10

    I have one of his books which is a biography on Ali Ibn Al Husayn👍🏾

    • @aftabahmad8658
      @aftabahmad8658 Год назад +1

      How is it? Will be grateful to you if you provide a short review!

  • @jn6676
    @jn6676 Год назад +1

    There is a narration that states the prophet and the Muslims saw a man approaching from a far distance by himself, when they got close enough to be recognised it was Abuzarr al ghifari r.a. at which the prophet s.w.a.s said that abuzarr walks alone in this dunya. If you read his autobiography, then you can see that this was the case up until his how his funeral was, which was mentioned. Hence, it makes sense that we didn't get much hadith narrated from him r.a

  • @AbdulSalam-ek3vj
    @AbdulSalam-ek3vj Год назад +1

    Fruitful topic. May Allah increase us in knowledge

  • @alhassanahmed22
    @alhassanahmed22 Год назад

    Superb and insightful presentation by Br. Abdullah. May Allah reward him immensely

  • @ziauddin7948
    @ziauddin7948 Год назад +4

    both Bukhari & Muslim had set extremely strict rules & laws for the narrators & the statements of Hadith # therefore there is no need to investigate narrator Abu Huraira #

    • @aftabahmad8658
      @aftabahmad8658 Год назад +1

      Well, in todays world i think getting knowledgeable about this subject is really important.
      So we can counter the arguments of those Hadith-rejectors and orientalists!

    • @kay1057
      @kay1057 Год назад

      @@aftabahmad8658 actually if you look in the books of the Salaf from the 3-5 century they have already replied to the same accusations. By now they are just silly.

    • @Ryan-lf6ds
      @Ryan-lf6ds Год назад

      @@kay1057 book of salaf from the 3-5 century? 🤣
      wahhabi kafir cult comes up with dumbest shi. lmao

  • @oay335
    @oay335 Год назад +7

    There’s a lot of information here, but unfortunately the arguments are somewhat weak. Firstly, the presenter keeps using Hadith narrated by Abu Hurairah RA to to support the various arguments that abu hurairah was a reliable transmitter, good with memory, etc. This is somewhat of a circular argument. Secondly, he obfuscates the sheer number and nature of Hadith that Abu Hurairah narrated by focusing on the Hadith that scholars have deemed “authentic” and ignoring those which have been deemed “weak”. This completely misses the point and is again circular argumentation. For example If someone fabricates 3000 stories, and truthfully tells 100, then of course it will be the 100 that others corroborate; and likewise we would be foolish to say this person is a reliable narrator of events.

    • @aymanodat491
      @aymanodat491 Год назад +2

      He didn’t count the ones authentically attributable to Abu Hurayrah. Pay attention.

    • @kay1057
      @kay1057 Год назад

      So what?

    • @ishrakmohammad7307
      @ishrakmohammad7307 Год назад +3

      When a hadith is considered weak, it is because of other subsequent narrators, not the sahaba.

    • @oay335
      @oay335 Год назад

      @@aymanodat491e see 1:21:00 and onwards in the video. I’m not sure you understand my argument. He restricts his analysis to sahih Hadith only, then does all his measurements of percentages based on that number. If anything, the numbers he presents are a reflection of the accuracy and skill of Bukhari and Muslim in getting the 600ish authentic Hadith out of the 3000-6000 that Abu Hurairah narrated.

  • @ayubhamid
    @ayubhamid Год назад +2

    What about all the Israeliyaat that he reported from ka'b ahbaar, but attributed them to the Prophet.

  • @azazzaza5764
    @azazzaza5764 8 месяцев назад

    Excellent presentation, jazakumullah khayran

  • @LearnQuranicArabic
    @LearnQuranicArabic Год назад +8

    A more important question is to ask: Is K'ab Al Ahbaar to be relied upon in interpreting the Quran ? How could a Yemini Jewish scholar who converted to Islam in the time of Umar RA, all of a sudden become an authority in Tafsir and whose opinions are still relied upon today? And why did scholars like Ali ibn Abu Talib RA reject him as an authority ?

    • @Warlord_2003
      @Warlord_2003 Год назад +6

      Brother how can you say that. ☹️
      For Muslims questioning the motives of kab bin ahbar potential conversion to Islam
      You have no right to gatekeep the religion in this way. I’ll ask you what the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ asked all those years ago
      Have “you cut open his heart to find out if he’s sincere?” as salihin, 393

    • @LearnQuranicArabic
      @LearnQuranicArabic Год назад +6

      @@Warlord_2003 we need to look at the evidence and not get emotional. He converted to Islam in the reign of Umar Ibn Al Khataab RA was apparently an authority in Tafsir of the Quran. His opinions fill our Tafseer literature and are still followed today ! Ali Ibn Abi Talib RA and Abu Thaar Al ghifaari RA believed he was not an authority and this is what the evidence would suggest.
      I make no claim to what was in his heart, but I outright reject his history, opinions and superstitions which crept into the mainstream understanding of the Quran.
      What is worrying is seeing interpretations which take from his sources. An example is the opinion that Nabi Suliman AS massacred his horses after missing asr salat. This was taken from a riwaayah from Ka'ab

    • @LearnQuranicArabic
      @LearnQuranicArabic Год назад +4

      @@Warlord_2003 Defeintely not akhee. I accept authentic narrations. I speak about ahadith regularly. I will copy something I wrote a little while ago:
      A warning of the Prophet (ﷺ) that has reached us by tawatur ( mass transmission) is
      لاَ تَكْذِبُوا عَلَىَّ، فَإِنَّهُ مَنْ كَذَبَ عَلَىَّ فَلْيَلِجِ النَّارَ ‏
      The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not tell a lie against me for whoever lies against me then he will surely enter the Hell-fire."
      He also said:
      مَنْ يَقُلْ عَلَىَّ مَا لَمْ أَقُلْ فَلْيَتَبَوَّأْ مَقْعَدَهُ مِنَ النَّارِ
      Whoever ascribes to me what I have not said then let him occupy his seat in Hell-fire."
      It is very interesting that this is one of the most authentic ahadith that has reached us. Is that a coincidence?
      Definitely not! The Prophet (ﷺ) is trying to explain the need to be extremely cautious what we attribute to the Prophet (ﷺ).

    • @LearnQuranicArabic
      @LearnQuranicArabic Год назад

      @@Warlord_2003 Brother, there is a time and place for this discussion which I dont believe is here. There are different opinions about her age and I would suggest that you study the different view points to get an idea of the arguments made. I have my view based on research and if you want to know you can contact me personally.
      regarding a hadith website, I would prefer to speak about the Quran because it is an area that I feel has been neglected and much needed. When the opinions of a Kab al ahbaar take precedence over a direct reading of the text of the Quran, then we know that much work needs to be done.
      khair insh'Allah.

    • @Warlord_2003
      @Warlord_2003 Год назад

      @@LearnQuranicArabic
      Brother how can i contact you?

  • @zenlokamaya
    @zenlokamaya Год назад +1

    This is great. Love your presentations.

  • @Balfour-doc
    @Balfour-doc Год назад

    جزاكم الله الخير و أكرمكم في الدنيا والآخرة.

  • @aflihasdisan4181
    @aflihasdisan4181 Год назад +2

    save this... thank you, barakallah, brother...

  • @ayyazsiddique5381
    @ayyazsiddique5381 Год назад +2

    JazakALLAHukhairan

  • @taymiyya1399
    @taymiyya1399 Год назад +1

    Jazakallah for this session about the noble sahabi Abdur Rahman Al Dawsi. Please where could I get the PowerPoint slides for this session?

  • @peacenow6618
    @peacenow6618 Год назад

    May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!

  • @user-zq9xn6yq1y
    @user-zq9xn6yq1y Год назад +1

    New video to be added to my playlist

  • @Khaledf
    @Khaledf Год назад +2

    Thank you for this great episode! Amazing and informative!

  • @HadithOfThaqlain
    @HadithOfThaqlain Год назад +3

    I think Sahih Bukhari makes it clear:
    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    "The Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'The best alms is that which is given when one is rich, and a giving hand is better than a taking one, and you should start first to support your dependents.' A wife says, 'You should either provide me with food or divorce me.' A slave says, 'Give me food and enjoy my service." A son says, "Give me food; to whom do you leave me?" The people said, "O Abu Huraira! Did you hear that from Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ?" He said, "No, it is from my own self."
    Reference:
    Sahih al-Bukhari 5355

    • @hms8836
      @hms8836 Год назад

      Tell the whole picture and don't accuse others before you verify ..
      His saying, may God be pleased with him: “No, this is from the bag of Abu Hurayrah” is meant at the end of the hadith, which is his saying: “The woman says: Either you feed me, or you divorce me…” etc.
      The evidence for that is that it was clearly stated by Imam Ahmad in his “Musnad” (10785), where he said:
      حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْمَلِكِ بْنُ عَمْرٍو، حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامٌ ، عَنْ زَيْدٍ ، عَنْ أَبِي صَالِحٍ ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ: ( خَيْرُ الصَّدَقَةِ مَا كَانَ عَنْ ظَهْرِ غِنًى، وَالْيَدُ الْعُلْيَا خَيْرٌ مِنَ الْيَدِ السُّفْلَى، وَابْدَأْ بِمَنْ تَعُولُ ) قَالَ: Abu Hurairah was asked what “who is you depending on?” He said: “Your wife, you say:“ Bed me or spend on me or divorce me, and I will say:

  • @adliwahid6081
    @adliwahid6081 2 месяца назад

    JazakaAllahu khairan

  • @absam7821
    @absam7821 4 месяца назад

    But the fact that he only converted to Islam only two years before prophets death really raises many questions

  • @jpaqon
    @jpaqon Год назад +2

    The point about the later Hanafi position that an ahad hadith cannot establish istihsan unless it the sahabah was a faqih could use some expanding on, as there are some other reasons that could raise the epistemic standard of the hadith such that it would be acceptable in going against qiyas -- namely being widely transmitted among the earlier generations (thus becoming a mashhur hadith).

    • @jpaqon
      @jpaqon Год назад +2

      @Andalusian They don't deny it's a proof (and indeed accept the mursal Hadith as a proof to a greater degree than the Shafi'is), but simply view it as being of a lesser epistemic value.

    • @jpaqon
      @jpaqon Год назад +2

      @Andalusian I'm not flexing, nor is such a term applicable to discussions of usul al-fiqh. Considering your adab, please do not respond further. All I can suggest is having the humility to study a text of Hanafi Usul with the ulema rather than dismissing one of the great Usuli traditions of Islam as being absurd.

    • @kay1057
      @kay1057 Год назад

      @@jpaqon why should I read anything about Abu Hanafi when he was 2 made tubah from kuffar by the scholars of his time.

    • @muzammilibrahim5011
      @muzammilibrahim5011 Год назад

      ​@@kay1057 because he was a salaf

    • @Ryan-lf6ds
      @Ryan-lf6ds Год назад

      @@kay1057 he was not like wahhabi kafirs.
      name the fake a$$ scholars, dk head. 🤣

  • @beingmuslim1987
    @beingmuslim1987 Год назад +3

    Brilliant

  • @mughal_r9374
    @mughal_r9374 Год назад +4

    Short yes answer: yes
    Long answer- of course he was

  • @OriginalAndroidPhone
    @OriginalAndroidPhone Год назад

    JUST WATCH IT ALL. Its so good, so so good.

  • @shayanelahi4232
    @shayanelahi4232 Год назад +4

    Why are no sources being discussed in this interview? A lot of assumptions are being presented as unchallenged facts.

  • @HurairaHerbals
    @HurairaHerbals Год назад

    It is so sad that people in the comments don't seem to have even watched the video, and if they did, did not watch with an open mind or didn't understand it at all.

  • @QuranicIslam
    @QuranicIslam Год назад +14

    Here's the bottom line; it is an absurd inhuman dichotomy to say that when someone is reliable and truthful, he is reliable and truthful all the time and everything he says must be accepted. And that if he lies or is dishonest or is untrustworthy, he is that all of the time and everything he says must be discarded. If that simple premise isn't understood the truth about, not just Abu Hurayra, but many narrators and sahaba, will never be seen let alone understood. Not to mention that sahaba narrated from others without mentioning the intermediaries, and Abu Hurayra is hugely guilty of that.
    And yes, when it comes to attributing things of immense import to the Messenger of God, you should strongly err on the side of caution. There is more than enough issues with Abu Hurayra for someone to justifiably throw all his narrations to the wind
    God's religion is not dependent on the narrations of Abu Hurayra nor anyone else

    • @4ozking858
      @4ozking858 Год назад +2

      who transmitted to you the Qur'an? Are they reliable?

    • @QuranicIslam
      @QuranicIslam Год назад +7

      @@4ozking858
      It wasn't Abu Hurayra
      And no, according to the science of Hadith the most important Qur'an transmitter, Hafs, was not reliable in Hadith ... he was a liar and his Hadiths are rejected. Stop repeating thoughtless mantras and assuming others are ignorant. Educate yourself on the topic first.

    • @laputa4825
      @laputa4825 Год назад

      "There is more than enough issues with Abu Hurarya"
      Such as?

    • @QuranicIslam
      @QuranicIslam Год назад +5

      @@laputa4825
      Look them up and read up on it deeply if you are really interested with any amount of seriousness and that goes beyond a RUclips comments section. The main ones are not hard to find. I take RUclips comments for sharing general ideas and info and conclusions ... not for expounding details of complex topics.
      And for the record, if it isn't obvious, I do accept narrations of Abu Hurayra, but I measure them up against what is more certain first.
      Edit: besides which, much was said in this very video. You can accept the excuses and explanations if you want. Not everyone else must.

    • @QuranicIslam
      @QuranicIslam Год назад +3

      @Brother Anon
      He was accused of being a liar. Bottom line, he is rejected in Hadiths. So that stupid mantra needs to be laid to rest. Otherwise, if you accept the Qur'an from him you should accept his Hadiths.
      And the real reason his Hadiths are rejected and he was called a liar is because his narrations are very Shia. Because he was in fact far more Shi'i than Sunni and by then it had all become completely sectarian ... it wasn't about the person's veracity but their "aqida"

  • @bilginomi
    @bilginomi Год назад

    Bir rasûl (ﷺ: s.a.s) hitâbı Ebû Hir (Kedi Babası). Fakat Ebû Hir (رضي الله عنه: r.a.) dahi kendisine böyle hitâb etmesini isterken bizler hâlâ onu daha önceki hitâb olan Ebû Hüreyre (Kedicik Babası) (r.a.) olarak anıyoruz! Bu hatayı ben de "Alıntılar Kitabımda" yaptım. Gelecek güncellemelerinde "Ebû Hir/Hüreyre (r.a.)" şeklinde düzelteceğim (As a Prophet's (Messenger (ﷺ: pbuh)) speech Abu Hir (Father of Cat). However, even while Abû/Abū Hir (رضي الله عنه: r.a.) wanted him to address himself like that, we still refer to him as Abû/Abū Hurayrah/Hurayra (Kitten Father) (r.a.), who was the addressee before! I made this mistake in my "Book of Quotes" too. I will correct it as "Abû/Abū Hir/Hurayrah (r.a.)" in future updates). Mehmet Keçeci, 2023

  • @nasapi
    @nasapi Год назад +1

    Salam Paul, would there be any videos on Ramadan as the holy month is ahead of us?

  • @peacenow6618
    @peacenow6618 Год назад

    جزاک اللہ خیرا

  • @azddine77
    @azddine77 Год назад +1

    In Morocco we use the term modyah to refer the knife

  • @RRaza57
    @RRaza57 Год назад +1

    Would love to listen to someone with a counter view.

  • @tugi7104
    @tugi7104 Год назад +9

    The part about the hanafi madhab and AH is really bad. It is as if the presenter has never spoken with a hanafi scholar. Really bad. Maybe next time u can invite an actual hanafi to explain this.

    • @tugi7104
      @tugi7104 Год назад +10

      In the hanafi madhab we pay a LOT of attention to the status of the sahaba. It's a methodological principal in the madhab. It's not as the presenter superficially say kuffan-centric. This is close to insulting. And shows a lack of basic knowledge of the hanafi madhab.

    • @shahram6869
      @shahram6869 Год назад +6

      There are many problems with the background of these two speakers

    • @tugi7104
      @tugi7104 Год назад +5

      The presenter should read up more on basic hanafi fiqh.
      1. There is a difference of opinion among hanafi shuyuk. About whether Abu Huraira was a faqih or not. Some do and others don't.
      2. The main point is. We say that he can't be compared to the leading faqihs of the sahaba at that time (Aisha, etc)
      3. We prioritize the faqihs among the sahaba on the basis of competence. It's not black and white. Some fatawa/faqih are given precedence above others. That's where the discussion comes from.
      That's why you see hanafi shuyuk use Abu Huraira and at other times they don't. Context is king.
      It's actually disturbing how wrong the presenter is.

    • @laputa4825
      @laputa4825 Год назад +1

      They are both Salafi, the Salafi manhaj has bad history with Hanafi Madhab, many of them believe it's simple a Madhab of innovations and Ra'y of Iraqis and Kufans and that it is astray from the hadith. There are also many books disparaging Abu Hanifa as incompetent.

    • @nazirahmad6335
      @nazirahmad6335 Год назад

      @@laputa4825 Salam Walaykum Brother are there any links you can provide where Sh Bassam said anything bad of Madhabs or even the Hanafi Fiqh? I studied hanafi fiqh for the past few years and could tell you I appreciate Sh Bassam work May Allah bless him and the presenter. One thing is also that sometimes as followers we become overly strict. See Shaykh Muhammad Awamaah Adab Ikhtilaaf discusses respect when having differences.

  • @peace.n.blessings5579
    @peace.n.blessings5579 Год назад

    Questioning the validity of our previous Scholars is not acceptable. They were nearer to the source than anyone can ever be and the Almighty knows best.

    • @muzammilibrahim5011
      @muzammilibrahim5011 Год назад

      It is because they are not infallible. Many scholars questioned the validity of Abu Hanifa.

  • @printmedia1422
    @printmedia1422 Год назад

    Today abu hureira is not with us
    But two major schools survived both seeking the ultimate truth
    One,school loved abu hureira the other did not
    This talk is one school defending their hero
    It will help the ummah for the opinion of the other school be heard on same subject
    We thank allah of the 73 mentioned in sahis only two remain ...meaning we are all not far from.the truth...this debate helps if we want only the truth and nothing but the truth
    Lucky for lslam the notes are live and kicking....the govts in play are an great insight into who recieved the better threads especially after khomeini who opened many chapters that had been ignored by the majority
    In majority is never a sign of the truth...
    As the people of paradise are less than those of hell in authentic hadiths then staying with the truth without fearing majority on any position in any school

  • @richardmackintosh
    @richardmackintosh Год назад

    When Abdullah was speaking about of authentic hadiths by abu hurayrah he meant sahih ones right?

  • @adamsmith6358
    @adamsmith6358 Год назад +5

    Its incredible that you are using Abu Hurayra's own hadiths to defend him. Prophet Muhammad did not even know what was going to happen to him (see 46:9) how could be endorsing others to go to heaven? Only God will decide on judgement day who has earned the right to enter heaven. Follow the Quran as the Prophet did and serve God alone instead of serving man-made idols.

  • @MJB0110
    @MJB0110 Год назад +3

    Some good points made but I’m not sure this removes the doubts about Abu Huraira (RA) & his narrations.
    He was only present in the last 3 years of the Prophet’s (PBUH) life.
    He himself admits he spent time with the Prophet (PBUH) primarily to get food & drink.
    He claims to narrate directly from the Prophet but his narrations also include accounts via others that are not made clear.
    Despite the 4 hour lecture the doubts remain as they have done over thousands of years.
    I personally prefer to stick with Mutawatir narrations than rely on the claims of one or two individuals so heavily. It’s not necessary.

  • @muhammadmurtazanasir9393
    @muhammadmurtazanasir9393 10 месяцев назад

    Aggression is a correct word to describe umar. You said it perfectly 😂

  • @thenaturelive
    @thenaturelive 5 месяцев назад

    Abu huraira' teacher was a Jewish man to name of kaab al ahbar

  • @Yoyoyo224
    @Yoyoyo224 Год назад +1

    AH was a last minute companion and was also whipped by the 2nd Caliph for fabrications
    For a man who appears so late on the scene and spends v little time with the blessed messenger
    It is suspiciously amazing how many narrations he quotes

    • @zainkazi8189
      @zainkazi8189 Год назад +1

      So you didn’t watch the interview…

  • @tajudeenbintijani
    @tajudeenbintijani Год назад +7

    None of the Hadith narrators are 100% reliable, Abu Huraira may be the worst of them all. Many Hadith contradict themes in the Quran e.g. No compulsion in religion from Quran, and Kill the apostate from Hadith. The best argument is presented by the Quran:
    Allahu nazzala ahsana alHadithi... [Quran chp 39 ver 23].
    fabiayyi Hadithin badahu yuminuna. [Quran chp 77 ver 50].

    • @zainkazi8189
      @zainkazi8189 Год назад +1

      Quranist huh? LOL

    • @tajudeenbintijani
      @tajudeenbintijani Год назад

      @@zainkazi8189 What happened to robust discussion?

    • @zainkazi8189
      @zainkazi8189 Год назад +1

      @@tajudeenbintijani you realize you’re saying the Qur’an narrators aren’t reliable by extension…retard

  • @dadir13505
    @dadir13505 9 месяцев назад +1

    Abu hurayrah was well documented as dishonest

  • @abdualatr6844
    @abdualatr6844 Год назад

    رضي الله عن الصحابي الجليل ابوهريرة وعلى جميع صحب المصطفى الامين صل الله عليه وسلم

  • @OriginalAndroidPhone
    @OriginalAndroidPhone Год назад

    So, Abu Hurayrah spent his life from age 26yrs-30yrs or so with the Prophet in medina and surrounded by other Companions in Masjid Nabawi, and then lived another 50 or so years after the Prophet had died and he himself was around 80yrs of age. Indeed young brains come with sharp memory, and immersion and dedication are wonderful talents, and he had many years to learn from others and teach others after the Prophets death.

  • @Tazkia-Tasawwuf
    @Tazkia-Tasawwuf Год назад +1

    Please I can't find the part 2 that Dr Ali Ataie mentioned in his discussion of "is the Qur'anpreserved" @blogging theology

  • @Dawood-Mushlam
    @Dawood-Mushlam Год назад +2

    Abu Hurayra was the biggest hadith fabricator in the history of hadith fabrication. How disappointing.

  • @walielias
    @walielias Год назад

    What about the hadeed narrated by him that wash nose for three times because the devil is spending all night on bottom of every one nose and I don't know dose it makes sense

  • @samianiamatullah2846
    @samianiamatullah2846 Год назад

    I think the interviewer needs to introduce himself as well… since we only know Paul… and suddenly see he’s been replaced. 😊

  • @IbnAlHimyari
    @IbnAlHimyari Год назад +1

    في تأويل مختلف الأحاديث لابن قتيبة
    قال علي: متى كان النبي خليلك يا أبا هريرة
    Ali said: When was the Prophet ‎ﷺ your close companion O Abu Hureira?
    🤔

  • @sorais8130
    @sorais8130 Год назад +2

    Only misguided souls will say yes

  • @TahirHussainMir24
    @TahirHussainMir24 Год назад

    They narrated hadith from someone who (Abu Hurayrah) lived with Prophet for 2 years and didn't narrate much from the Gate to Prophet's knowledge, Ali ibn Abi Talib (a)

    • @Emir_969
      @Emir_969 Год назад +1

      The Hadith that says Ali was the gate to the Prophet's Knowledge is Fabricated(Mawdoo')

  • @JohnnieWalkerGreen
    @JohnnieWalkerGreen Год назад +1

    3:35:06 --- Great and complete presentation, but very long. For the "Cliffnotes version," see the conclusion.
    3:44:01 --- Steven Hawking, an atheist, can explain quantum mechanics without Algebra!

  • @Asdfhjkl998
    @Asdfhjkl998 Год назад

    Wow you talk about him I thought you are talking like Ali or Ahlulbayt ( the blinds and deafs welcome each other talk bought truth )

  • @Medical-Plus-Dr
    @Medical-Plus-Dr Год назад

    I think we are not high enough to speak about a companion of prophet alihisalam with such titles. Talk only when you are taking ilm from him otherwise keep mum against them even in lighter vein

    • @schmoeschlomo6972
      @schmoeschlomo6972 Год назад +1

      High enough? You enjoy priesthoods?

    • @MukarramAli98
      @MukarramAli98 Год назад

      Don't turn the companions, may Allah be pleased with them, into idols.

    • @goodman_1955
      @goodman_1955 7 месяцев назад

      Join a monastery

  • @SaidAhmad
    @SaidAhmad 10 месяцев назад

    Three hours!! C’mon man, you need to work on your editing skills…

  • @nazimahmed5910
    @nazimahmed5910 9 месяцев назад +1

    Allah says in the qur'an that there are people who are dump and deaf and cannot grasp the message of the qur'an because Allah put veil before their eyes.
    I am not going to debate whether Abu Guraira is honest or dishonest oe should we accept hadiths or nor. I urge you all hadiths supporters for the sake of Allah. Buy or borrow a sahih bukhari book. Please read it from introduction to the e d and you will question yourself. Is this the character of our prophet? On many hadith bukhari and his company humiliated our prophet.
    Qur'an is the only word of GOD.
    And only qur'an will be witness on the day of judgement along with prophet Mohammad in our case. For other believers they will have their prophet and the book that Allah revealed to the respected prophet.
    You won't find Mr. Bukhari or .r Abu Huraira besides you on the day of judgement
    So be careful about the day when nobody will intercede except Allah swt. The creator of heaven and earth.

  • @marlie4872
    @marlie4872 Год назад

    1:06:54

  • @SalihSabir
    @SalihSabir Год назад +1

    Please what is the short answer

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 Год назад +19

      He is ultra-reliable and you can take his sahih musnad hadiths with complete confidence.

    • @sacredrider
      @sacredrider Год назад +9

      His sahih narrations are realiable,

    • @SalihSabir
      @SalihSabir Год назад +1

      Jazakallah 💚

  • @shahram6869
    @shahram6869 Год назад +8

    Khaled Abou el Fadl is not an Islamic scholar? My God you couldn't be more dishonest.

    • @laputa4825
      @laputa4825 Год назад

      Even if he were (the argument he made was weak)

    • @shahram6869
      @shahram6869 Год назад

      @@laputa4825 Have you read his book or just going off what others are saying?

    • @Hamza000h
      @Hamza000h Год назад +1

      Khaled abou el fadl is a top scholar. One of the leading muslim thinkers of our age

  • @HussainFahmy
    @HussainFahmy Год назад +1

    💯👍

  • @muhammadmurtazanasir9393
    @muhammadmurtazanasir9393 10 месяцев назад

    Umar should have questioned or advised Allah not to be so generous to the ummah of Prophet p.b.u.h.

  • @dessiedessie
    @dessiedessie Год назад +8

    From the foundation of the religion is that you don’t question the reliability of a Sahabi.

    • @redman1300
      @redman1300 Год назад +15

      They're defending him akhi not questioning.

    • @hashh2019
      @hashh2019 Год назад +14

      you should question because they are not God. Muawiyah, a Sahabi lead to bloodshed of hundreds of muslims, he even got his army to pierce Quran with spears and carry it in battlefield. Can I not question such a character?
      Its not the foundation of religion- it is a man made concept to defend the questionable acts of some Sahaba.

    • @kenkaneki9138
      @kenkaneki9138 Год назад +11

      @@hashh2019 Shia detected. Yes, its a foundation to trust a sahabi's words when they quote the prophet pbuh because the prophet himself is infallible. If they dont quote the prophet then the sahabi is doing his own ijtihad and his words are still to be taken seriously when doing exegesis. Even you shias take the Quran from these sahabis. There is no evidence to what you are saying about Muwaiya and the Quran, you are just regurgitating what the Majus have made up for their hate on Islam.

    • @sacredrider
      @sacredrider Год назад +1

      Akhi, wasn't that we shouldn't judge their actions, or criticise them? Or am I remembering wrong?

    • @Canuck21530
      @Canuck21530 Год назад +2

      Question everybody , otherwise we are like any another religion zombies following blindly .

  • @chegeuvera
    @chegeuvera Год назад +1

    Short answer. Hell no..saved you a click

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  Год назад +1

      Educated answer: Yes.

    • @chegeuvera
      @chegeuvera Год назад

      @@BloggingTheology under any, nay zero circumstances is Abu Huraira a reliable source. Hardly anytime spent, a suspicious conversion, miraculous memory (how convenient). At most he was invented by the ummayad and at the least he was a fabricator.
      Anyone who defends Abu Huraira over the prophets honour, is frankly questionable. The prophet over Abu Huraira please.

  • @abubakarahmed5072
    @abubakarahmed5072 Год назад +6

    All of these acrobatics just so the words of men can dominate over the words of Allahh... Its quite sad.
    Isn't it ironic that there are hadith of the prophet himself prohibiting hadith? And now it is clear why. It has become a sect inducing mass of contradictions of this person said this and that person said that.
    The Qur'an calls itself hadith. Why must you have another one?
    Just read what the Qur'an says about the word "hadith", and if that does not give you chills, and cause you to rethink, I don't know what to tell you!
    The hadith has its uses, sure, but only if you can divorce yourself from making it a scripture with unquestionable authority in its own right. It cannot, and will never be a scripture with authority.
    It is simply the words of men, and no amount of acrobatics can ever change that unquestionable fact.

    • @camilocastillo2935
      @camilocastillo2935 Год назад +2

      You are totally right, but a lot of them will never accept that... As they decided that anybody who question that is a kafer, or an apostate, who can even be put to death if circumstances allows it... And some have the audacity to ask, "why it's only after the 19th century and colonization that some started questioning our sahih hadiths ? " Well, there was people like this before, and they were prosecuted, and put to death if they became too vocal, the ruler himself could not be criticized, so the made up stories about the life of the Prophet... A social engineering that made so easy to follow blindly... The Jews and the Christians did it before them... Allah warned us about the clerks in the person of Rabbis and Monks... The result is there, for anyone who sees. Buy for most, they feel it's better to make acrobatics than leave the circus

    • @abubakarahmed5072
      @abubakarahmed5072 Год назад +2

      @@camilocastillo2935 Absolutely! What you said is clear for all to see in history. And they continue till this day.

    • @camilocastillo2935
      @camilocastillo2935 Год назад +2

      @@abubakarahmed5072 Surah 17 verses
      80. And say, “My Lord, lead me in through an entry of truth, and lead me out through an exit of truth, and grant me from You a supporting power.”
      81. And say, “The truth has come, and falsehood has withered away; for falsehood is bound to wither away.”
      82. We send down in the Quran healing and mercy for the believers, but it increases the wrongdoers only in loss.
      More clear, impossible... If people stick to falsehood, and don't take the exit, well, they chose it, they can't say Allah didn't warn them

    • @adamsmith6358
      @adamsmith6358 Год назад +3

      Quran is the only truth that can be relied upon. That is why Prophet Muhammad will say on the day of judgement, "My Lord, my people took this Quran as a thing forsaken" (25:30)

  • @DAWAHTIME1
    @DAWAHTIME1 Год назад

    You may be a scholar or want to be known so but please have the generosity of at least saying RA RadiyaAllah Ta'ala once to any of Sahaba. You are talking like they were common Joe's.
    Surely you would give titles of respect to your supervisor, uni chancellor, ruler of the state.
    Ourbelief Sahaba RA are one of the best people after the Prophets AS

    • @MukarramAli98
      @MukarramAli98 Год назад

      Respect is in the heart. The guy is defending Abu Huraira RA and he spent 4 hours attempting to dismantle the allegations against him. And you complain that he did not say RA after his name. Plus, it's not mandatory to say RA in the deen.

  • @ieccptyltd6749
    @ieccptyltd6749 Год назад +3

    Correction. Abu Dhaar was sent into exile by Uthman unjustly. He wasn’t a hermit. Shameful how he talks about Abu dhaar. A much beloved companion of our beloved prophet

    • @Emir_969
      @Emir_969 Год назад

      Uthman has a much more closer place to Prophet Muhammad than him, Uthman is the third greatest person after the Prophets with the agreement of the Sahaba even greater than Ali.

    • @stevenv6463
      @stevenv6463 Год назад

      Abu Dharr (ra) didn't get along with people. He was ascetic and openly criticized people. He was a good man and a blessed companion but Uthman (ra) was running a state and needed to ensure social harmony.

  • @khairulbashar2325
    @khairulbashar2325 Год назад +5

    Not very reliable.

  • @kellysam2076
    @kellysam2076 Год назад +1

    The shia hadith are the most reliable ones

  • @bero431
    @bero431 Год назад

    Hadith ?????????????????? I thought Koran was Holey.

  • @muhammadmurtazanasir9393
    @muhammadmurtazanasir9393 10 месяцев назад

    “Out of fear”!!!😂😂😂, Umar doesn’t know shariah

  • @thesuperiorman8342
    @thesuperiorman8342 Год назад +1

    Abu huraira didn't like dogs

    • @MohamedShou
      @MohamedShou Год назад

      Ok aaand?

    • @homer1273
      @homer1273 Год назад +4

      ​@Mohamed Ismael that's why he made up hadith that dogs are haram

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 Год назад +5

      @@homer1273 : What’s your religion?

    • @rohaizatraub61
      @rohaizatraub61 Год назад

      to me it is very simple..
      hadith came very much later and are meant to clarify the Quran verses.. not the other way round..
      so, if you want to use hadith.. be it from his Uncles, Companions or even from his wives.. you have to attach the relevant Quran verse..
      otherwise, you can throw your favourite hadith into the garbage..
      am I clear.??
      😜😜😜

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 Год назад +4

      @@rohaizatraub61 : What do you mean “hadiths came much later”? Are you high? Or do you not know that people were memorizing and writing hadiths in the time of Rasool Allah Muhammad (ﷺ) himself? Also, do you not know that the Noble Qur’an itself says that Rasool Allah Muhammad (ﷺ) received more revelation than just the Book of Allah (SWT)? You just want to throw that Revelation into the trash, audhubilLah?

  • @asmacheema3226
    @asmacheema3226 Год назад

    Taken aback by the question , sounds blasphemous to me. Wallahul Musta’an

  • @ayatollahvladimirputin3844
    @ayatollahvladimirputin3844 Год назад

    Well I think you should research Ahmed's deceit in his narrations.

    • @Halal_Dan
      @Halal_Dan Год назад +6

      I knew some angry Sufis/Shias would show themselves lol

    • @ayatollahvladimirputin3844
      @ayatollahvladimirputin3844 Год назад

      @@Halal_Dan It's about integrity when narrating about the Prophet prayers and peace be upon him not Hanbali sectarianism.

    • @Halal_Dan
      @Halal_Dan Год назад

      @@ayatollahvladimirputin3844 You're claiming beloved companions and reputable scholars of Islam are deceitful, so where's your integrity?

    • @ayatollahvladimirputin3844
      @ayatollahvladimirputin3844 Год назад

      @@Halal_Dan Ahmad ibn Hanbal is not an idol to be worshipped he crossed Muaiwa's name from many narrations. What do you call covering your ears when you hear a HADITH you don't like and crossing names of Umaid people? Deceit? The Prophet prayers and peace be upon him said that if his daughter had stolen cutoff her hand. What about "companions" who changed Shura, killed Ammar ibn Yasir and blatantly lied about the Prophet prayers and peace be upon infront of everyone. Your prince Muawia ibn Abi Sufain.
      Don't just use the (how dare you) arguments to defend people who don't deserve it.

    • @Halal_Dan
      @Halal_Dan Год назад

      @@ayatollahvladimirputin3844 See what I mean? Defining your aqeeda based on blind hate for reputable scholars and cherry picking events that you don't understand fully, or perhaps willingly misunderstanding, in order to justify deviance. Ammar ibn Yasir? So you're still angry they took down the shirk shrine the Shias made for him? Is that why you're here slandering companions? Fear Allah. Remember, Ali was killed by Shias, and he has nothing to do with you people.