I love having my favourite childhood cartoons destroyed and violated just because someone had issues while growing up and decided to pour them into a script...
But, but........... once Mindy walked into a Starbucks and they didn't have her Chestnut Praline Latte instantly available. It took the employees, five minutes!!!!! Five whole minutes to make it, do you know how terrible that is?
Mindy Kaling may have lived a privileged upbringing, and attended all the best schools, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say she wasn't exactly the prom queen. That kinda explains a lot of what we're seeing. There's a lot of 'emotional damage' being vented here.
@@thehumblepotatoreborn9313 Shaggy being a mukbang streamer was funny. Though mostly because he yelled at Velma that he didn't want to get banned again. I doubt the writers know about the Twitch banhammer so it was only coincidentally funny.
@@ryanlesner0000ninja High school girls as collectivists were removing the brains. High school girl brains are low fat, high estrogen nutrition. Solved!
In Danish we have this expression that, sort of, translates to "privilege blindness". It's when you're so used to your privilege that you've completely lost sight of it. And, more importantly, any loss of privilege is seen as oppression. Mindy is a prime example of this.
@@500dollarjapanesetoaster8 _Drawn Together_ especially that first season, was awesome. It kinda ran out of steam fairly quickly though but it's a spoof on old cartoon stereotypes in a 2000s MTV style reality TV show setting. I thoroughly recommend it.
Judging by what we know about the writers room at the Witcher, it's painfully obvious that the people hired to remake classic franchises have nothing but contempt for both the source material and the fans. All remakes and adaptations are DOA.
@@trumpflavourednugget9325 Arcane was also developed by Riot Games IIRC. Not shipped out to some third party that couldn't give less of a fuck about it.
And being around the same age at that. Velma's the youngest while Fred and Daphne are the oldest. The characters are too unrecognizable visually and personality wise to be a prequel.
Velma defined my taste in girls as a young lad. She was the reason I grew to prefer smart, kind, and shy girls. Girls with nothing happening upstairs I'm curious about are repulsive to me.
The weirdest part about all this to me is that in the show she is not even a good detective. She literally throws out clues without looking at them, she tries to get people she knows are innocent prosecuted, and then commits numerous crimes herself without an ounce of social awareness. She's not just wrong about all her conclusions, she's denial-of-reality wrong. I can maybe get an edgy Velma or a snarky Velma, but a stupid, bigoted, and clueless Velma? That's pretty much an INVERSION of her character.
The Velma character is the modern day Daria without any of her endearing qualities or dry humour. The show is about as enjoyable as a headbutt to the ghoulies from Rian Johnson.
Daria was easily the worst character in her own show. I can understand why GenX loved her. Her sardonic sarcasm was no different than Bill Murray quips in all his movies. However nowadays her complaints seem so unwarranted. _Durr the system wants us to breed just to keep the wheel of commercialism turning._ Sure thing Daria, sure thing.
At least DBE doesn’t try to despise/spit on their fans. DBE has bad writing,but it’s goofy bad kind of movie. At least I can find some entertainment about that movie while Velma has *N O N E* Edit: Even one of the actors redeemed himself by voicing Zamasu in Dbs
@@Shockguey Honestly studios really need to learn that sometimes it's best to let the content creators they have use most if not all of their creativity than limiting it.
Mindy absolutely hated Scooby-Doo as a kid, because idk what you would call Velma other than pure spite that was only made in order to nuke a wholesome franchise from orbit and then salt the earth for good measure.
She was probably seething that her brother became what her father always wanted and even when she was on TV she wasn't as culturally attractive as a doctor.
I am kind of tired hearing how "She hated Scooby Doo", because the only information we have to go on she says she loved scooby doo and found it scary. It is so stupid and dumb trying to invent more fictitious reasons to dislike something. Beyond that it is conspiratorial as hell.
@@SioxerNikita We can't exactly go by anyone who works on the project for information. Especially when it's to their benefit. Though I agree that she probably didn't hate the show as a kid. If she does hate the show, it's cause she had to use the ip then her original. Probably more akin to spite then actual hate. Honestly I think it's either this, or she was banking 1000% on shock value and thought she was could run with it.
To think that it literally all started with Mindy liking a jk Rowling tweet. They apparently dug up a blog post written by her in 2007 about the Writer's Strike where she coincidentally called herself "Conservative". Even if she was (and it wasn't a joke about how she didn't want to strike like a lot of writers did at the time) you can't spend 16 YEARS in Hollywood and not conform to their ways or have been cancelled by now.
I've said this on everything I could put it on. It makes me crazy. Velma says Fred and white men can get away with murder and are privileged. Velma hits Daphne with a tire iron, sells drugs, breaks into Fred's home and a dead body is found in her locker, she's walking around free. Fred gets shot twice and go's to prison for a crime he did not commit. How did no one notice that?
This iteration of Velma is also very racist. She's constantly complaining that white people are privileged, but completely disregards the opinions of white people just because they are born white.
Remember guys, "body positivity" doesn't apply to men. If you got a little Johnson that is to be laughed at, but don't you dare make fun of a fat chick.
@@richtes Its all relativity. your perception of time never changes even as you cross the event horizon but your time slows down and falls to 0 at the event horizon from an observers perspective.
Wokeists can't write likeable protagonists because their bitterness and spite leaks into the characters they create. I'm genuinely shocked by how mean-spirited Velma turned out to be. It was a rather alarming insight into how lefties see the world.
This isn't a "leftie" thing.This is an out-of-touch rich elitist extremist idiot thing. This does NOT represent liberal-thinking. It is a demented aberration of it, just like QAnon and the Trump Cult are a demented aberration of conservative thinking.
Thing is a great deal of artists and authors sit on the left. Terry Pratchett, Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, all lefties. Even JK Rowling, who everyone in the extreme left seems to wrongly believe is some kind of fascist, wrote Harry Potter with a lot of lefty sentimentality. The left is where a majority of artistic and creative work we all love does come from. George Lucas, again, lots of lefty sentiments in his stories. They're just not extreme left or this weird perverse 'Hollywood-Left' that nobody outside of that stupid bubble really likes.
I was thinking of this the other day and how it's such a shame female protagonists have been getting brutalized in recent years by these awful shows; Santa Inc, She-Hulk, and now Velma. For shows that claim to be feminist, they sure love topping themselves to see who can make the most unbearable cast of characters.
Same I also grew up with Scooby Doo, and to see the source material bastardized like this, just so Mindy can virtue signal and pretend to be a good person.
I’ve always thought Mindy was annoying and completely unfunny. Watching her on the office was a chore..I’m not surprised she had a hand in something so terrible..I grew up on Scooby and the gang ..this is fukd
I miss Scooby Doo because it was only about solving mysteries by a group of highschoolers who in real life they wouldn't work together. I loved it because the jock wasn't a douc#ebag, the pretty girl wasn't a mean, actively hostyle b¡tch, the nerdy girl wasn't laughed at and was valued by what she had to contribute with. And because it was aimed at kids, the sexuality of the characters was so secondary you could spend your whole childhood watching it without knowing/caring about it. Plus Shaggy and Scooby, they were adorable. I miss old fashioned children tv shows.
Scoobynatural worked because the Supernatural characters knew better than to make everything super edgy and violent and were okay with being cameo characters. "Velma" ironically matches almost verbatim the Robot Chicken sketch where they replace Daphne with...someone. The edginess, the overly-smart characters, the lesbian make-out session, its all there. But that was a one-off parody, this is unfortunally real.
I think the change to Fred makes me the angriest. I always thought he was a lowkey hilarious golden-retriever of a human that got a snort out of me every once in a while. They massacred my boy so bad.
Studio execs: "Ok Mindy, this is the time for you to get funny!" Mindy Kaling: "That's my secret: I've never been funny." (proceeds to destroy entire show)
It's been a while since I've seen something bring everyone together like this. Everyone from every walk of life has joined under the banner of absolute hating Velma.
I'm reminded of the controversy around one of the creators on the Powerpuff Girls reboot writing himself into the show as Blossom's crush, and how creepy it was that the grown man was writing himself into a relationship with the literal child. Of course, he was a man, so he was an acceptable target to blame.
Ah yes Jake Goldman one of the writers. Did you know he wrote the painbow especially along with another writer who later made a cartoon herself before her Tumblr post about her outing herself as a pdfile was found and harassed her workers came out? Yeah interesting trivia
The main inspiration for my channel was a livestream where Drinker and Az both talked about how burned out and dismal they were after watching so many awful shows, and how they needed to go back and watch some classics to purify their psyches. Figured I'd save myself the suffering and just celebrate the great things of yesteryear... while taking potshots at trash along the way.
@@sillystuff6247 Yeah I was thinking of SAO Abridged where the story makes far more sense and gives the characters better motivation while being funny on top of it. It's pretty short, I'd recommend it as a case study.
Hollywood seems to think that we're asking for an edgy and "adult" version of our childhood memories. In reality, I want my kids to have the same clean, wholesome memories I was allowed to have. Save the adult content for adult shows and I wont have a word to say about it
I saw Little Platoon’s velma video a couple days ago and it was one of the best I saw on the topic. It’s awesome to know he’s a part of this crowds. You guys all rock 🤘
On the tweet Mindy Kaling liked from JK Rowling: The ironic part is that it's a tweet that Mindy herself sounds like she'd say. It was Rowling responding to some random person. The random person said, "How do you sleep at night knowing you've lost a whole audience from buying your books?" and she says "I read my most recent royalty cheques and find the pain goes away pretty quickly."
@@fr0ck360A privileged life in the Northeastern nexus of American culture. A candyland of elitist arsehats who think they rule us. She wasn't hurt, that's just what she is, and they are too.
Its really sad that Mindy became like that. I think that her work at the Office was quite good and self aware. The sucess must have triggered her dark (no pun intended) side somehow.
That’s how leftists work: no rules, ethics, or morals apply when it comes to people they hate. They are so completely ensconced in their tribalism that they can’t comprehend notions like ‘everybody plays by the same rules.’ To them, it would be wrong to bodyshame Fred if he professed left wing views. But since he’s not part of the ‘good people’ tribe, he deserves whatever awful treatment they give him.
For something he has no control over, none the less… not like it’s the result of following Mindys diet of strictly McMuffins and therefore ending up a fat wreck… dudes just got a little Wang…. Oof.
I’m still partial to the theory that the original script wasn’t meant to be a Velma show. But they were told the only way they’d get funding to make their script into a show was if it was a “modern reimagined version of a classic cartoon” so they just randomly selected Mystery Inc and awkwardly forced the characters into the already pre written show that had nothing to do with them.
Scooby Doo came out at a time when I was getting to the age where childhood fun was slipping over to the teenage side. I enjoyed it but it was not like some of the older ones I liked. Having said that, I detest another attempt to subvert anyone's fond childhood memories. Childhood is an age of innocence for most of us and it is very short. It shouldn't be perverted by adults with a sick sense of .... whatever it is.
Does it seem like the people who grew up with the same nostalgia you did have misinterpreted the meaning in order to capitalize? Because as a woman who grew up through the 90's-00's, I see the current "Strong female fight EVERYONE rawr!" trend as an attempt to overcompensate for the "Just sit down and wait for your prince" trope from my childhood. A very misguided, tone-deaf attempt, devoid of nuance.
The show that makes fun of a spoiled, privileged, rich person who grew up getting and having everything he needed, without any challenges… just like Mindy herself.
What gets me is The Venture Brothers did the Scooby Doo satire that this is so desperately trying to be using less than 5 minutes of a B plot in a 22 minute episode. The joke was perfect. It landed perfectly. And it was all we needed.
I never watched she Hulk, but I felt the hate from it. Velma, I watched someone's reaction vid, and it's like.. it feels like whoever wrote it hates everyone. It's just so horrible. Disgusting. You shouldn't watch something and go:"Wow, whoever made this hates people." Honestly, I do think it's just Mindy here. Or maybe everyone who made it just poured their hatred and vitriol into it. They need a therapist and some serious chill pills if they go around like this on a normal basis.
I watched the Little Platoon's review on Velma and I knew things are REALLY F*CKING BAD when he immediately started the video with a raised voice... That's not how TLP rolls with his ASMR intellectual voice!
"I don't wanna see that" "I mean, speak for yourself, just not these two." Indeed. Velma and Daphne from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back? I could stand to see a bit more.
My understanding is the me too thing is from the fact that Mindy literally got me too-ed for sexual harassment cause she harassed a fellow actor, and then kissed them without consent.
The only reason Mindy included that tidbit about pre-cancel culture comedians, is because she went on Conan and admitted to sexually harassing a male co-star. Mind you, they had applause and laughter during the "joke" she told, but that old clip is out there nonetheless and she knows it.
hope melonie interjects herself more into the conversation in future round tables. it's not so easy for professional talkers to leave space for others to jump in. but if they learn how, and keep their monologues short, the ensemble will become greater than the sum of its parts
I doubt that he's aware that he is supposed to mediate the discussion as a host of a round table. Hell, he often doesn't let his guests talk in 1:1 interviews. He has potential, though.
I knew this would be a mess when they described the female characters with some tragic backstory then they described the male characters with jokes like, Fred has a small pp and shaggy was laughed at for having feelings for someone. All female characters are tragic heroes and male characters are just jokes and you're suppose to laugh at their struggle
The true scooby do experience is discovering why this show was even created. Is it some sort of scheme, is it a money laundering plot, a political scheme. Then we discover that it’s actually just a bitter director behind it all
Or it's the plot of Mel Brooks' "The Producers": rip-off investors for money to dump into a project to create a truly reprehensible piece of "entertainment", so they can't be paid back. "Velma" is Mindy Kalig's "Springtime for Hitler".
Velma was my kid crush. Mindy Kaling was my celebrity crush when she was on THE OFFICE. (Before I heard her speak as herself and made several projects I could not finish watching.) That the two combined to make something I found repulsive is an accomplishment.
2:16 - 2:32 you are the second person to point that out. Pippa also pointed that out because mindy directed a teen drama, and also outed herself for sexually harrasing an actor during a rehearsal, then threatening the man to keep it hush, or she ruins his career.
There was so much they could do with good writing. Going from 4 teens that would never hang out together to a well developed and successful mystery solving team has so much potential for a good story. But the writers obviously have no life experience to call on to help them develop this story.
I think our dream production team is lining up now. They've all proven themselevs: Producer: Lauren Hissrich Director: Ruin Johnson Writers: Mindy Kailing, Jessica Gao and some hungry Baboons with keyboards Starring: Tatiana Maslany, Warwick Davis and Ruby Cruz Make that movie NOW!
I'm all for using the term "Don Draper" as shorthand to describe a character who frustratingly keeps resetting to their default state over and over again. But it feels just a little too esoteric, and that's coming from someone who's seen Mad Men in its entirety. Don Draper's characteristics just aren't as commonly known as someone like Ned Flanders. I know the show had a lot of hype early on, but I'm not sure it ever really had the numbers to match. And those numbers only ever went down. Plus, it seems like there are so many more glaring examples of characters like that. Rick Grimes comes to mind. Or House, for the vast majority of the series.
Drinker seemed to be surprised that had to go all the way back 3 months to find a show as obnoxiously mean-spirited. 3 months is nothing. In the 20th century, there weren’t really any mean-spirited shows. Oh, how things have changed.
This is the question. How is it acceptable to openly hate people based on race… it’s never been acceptable in my lifetime, and only become an issue in the last 10 years due to nefarious media.
I genuinely don’t get how HBO released the pilot of the Last of Us and Velma in the same time frame. One has enormous potential and the other is one I hope will be cancelled soon. (Yes I know they renewed it for some reason.)
Развлечения
I love having my favourite childhood cartoons destroyed and violated just because someone had issues while growing up and decided to pour them into a script...
With the Doctor Who teddy bear no less
Eeeemotional daaaamage.
Yeah, but like Frosk, isn't Kaling from a rich family? Getting fed up with the rich girl "me, me, me" blues.
Mindy Kaling is that fat girl in high school who was upset her dad never molested her. She’s got some serious issues
But, but........... once Mindy walked into a Starbucks and they didn't have her Chestnut Praline Latte instantly available. It took the employees, five minutes!!!!! Five whole minutes to make it, do you know how terrible that is?
Mindy Kaling may have lived a privileged upbringing, and attended all the best schools, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say she wasn't exactly the prom queen.
That kinda explains a lot of what we're seeing. There's a lot of 'emotional damage' being vented here.
There was one good scene. You all know which one
She’s fuckin minging mate
@@thehumblepotatoreborn9313 Shaggy being a mukbang streamer was funny. Though mostly because he yelled at Velma that he didn't want to get banned again.
I doubt the writers know about the Twitch banhammer so it was only coincidentally funny.
Just like her character in The Office
None of the white guys wanted to ask her out in school. This is her "revenge".
“Velma hates you”……the feeling is definitely mutual! 😂
Equitably achieved!
It's a win《🙏》win
Definitely
Who was removing the brain's from high school girls?
What did the murder do with the brains?
Why target high school girls?
@@ryanlesner0000ninja High school girls as collectivists were removing the brains.
High school girl brains are low fat, high estrogen nutrition.
Solved!
And toward everyone making such shows too.
You know Mindy Kaling's Velma show is so terribly bad that even the woke mob of all people draw the line at it.
Finally the one thing that will bring us together across the political divide
Sweet summer child.. you vastly overestimate where the woke mob draws a line.
@@dmtaboo_truth7052 you think they draw the line before that?
@@_Stormfather It might be more accurate to say they have no line.. (i.e. they will tolerate unspeakable evils).
A lot of them think that it's an anti SJW plant lol
In Danish we have this expression that, sort of, translates to "privilege blindness".
It's when you're so used to your privilege that you've completely lost sight of it.
And, more importantly, any loss of privilege is seen as oppression.
Mindy is a prime example of this.
The Texan term is “spoiled brat” lol
What’s the term in Danish? I want to use it, please 🤍
@@luthasunspell8365 Privilegie blindhed.
@@cinemint Sort of, but it's more than just spoiled.
It pairs well with Freudian projections. The Hollywood authors project their own character flaws upon the evil white straw-man.
The feeling is mutual *Drinker voice* "BELIEVE THAT"
Heh
😂😂😂
Did they deliver "The Message"?🤔😆
"The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own." --Frodo
Mindy Kalin thought that she identified with Velma, not realizing she's quite literally Toot from _Drawn Together._
Great observation.
She's Fred from her own show.
Didn't know the reference, looked it up-- ROFL!
Throwback! Holy shit lol, I had forgotten about that show
@@500dollarjapanesetoaster8 _Drawn Together_ especially that first season, was awesome. It kinda ran out of steam fairly quickly though but it's a spoof on old cartoon stereotypes in a 2000s MTV style reality TV show setting. I thoroughly recommend it.
Judging by what we know about the writers room at the Witcher, it's painfully obvious that the people hired to remake classic franchises have nothing but contempt for both the source material and the fans. All remakes and adaptations are DOA.
Must be the same writers murdering.............. reimagining every IP like some literary hit squad with a victim list.
Arcane was pretty good innit
@@trumpflavourednugget9325 Arcane was also developed by Riot Games IIRC. Not shipped out to some third party that couldn't give less of a fuck about it.
@@Bonesawisready926 very true. This is the way.
@@Bonesawisready926 it was developed by the studio that did the cinematics for LoL if I recall so yes.
How can Velma be a prequel when the characters in it bear no resemblance to those in Scooby Doo?
And being around the same age at that. Velma's the youngest while Fred and Daphne are the oldest. The characters are too unrecognizable visually and personality wise to be a prequel.
They all became transracial and identified as white by the time the canon show happened. And the influence of female company made Fred likeable.
It's exactly like RoP. Woke slaves leech off established IPs to force their propaganda onto us.
See Rings of Power.
Velma has always been a positive, likeable character. How this show is supposed to take place before then is a mystery not even she could solve.
All the characters were nice, likable kids who genuinely liked each other .... Apparently, people having friends triggers Mindy Kaling.
Velma defined my taste in girls as a young lad. She was the reason I grew to prefer smart, kind, and shy girls. Girls with nothing happening upstairs I'm curious about are repulsive to me.
Because it's all about taking everything you once enjoyed and destroying it to Demoralise you
@@TheOtherBradBird 🤮 I hope you don't mean physically
The weirdest part about all this to me is that in the show she is not even a good detective. She literally throws out clues without looking at them, she tries to get people she knows are innocent prosecuted, and then commits numerous crimes herself without an ounce of social awareness. She's not just wrong about all her conclusions, she's denial-of-reality wrong.
I can maybe get an edgy Velma or a snarky Velma, but a stupid, bigoted, and clueless Velma? That's pretty much an INVERSION of her character.
The Velma character is the modern day Daria without any of her endearing qualities or dry humour. The show is about as enjoyable as a headbutt to the ghoulies from Rian Johnson.
Daria was easily the worst character in her own show. I can understand why GenX loved her. Her sardonic sarcasm was no different than Bill Murray quips in all his movies.
However nowadays her complaints seem so unwarranted. _Durr the system wants us to breed just to keep the wheel of commercialism turning._
Sure thing Daria, sure thing.
Hey, getting head-butted by Rian Johnson would be a great excuse to break his arms and legs and throw him in the sea.
Quiet. You've giving Rian Johnson ideas.
Who was removing the brain's from high school girls?
What did the murder do with the brains?
Why target high school girls?
That big round head could take out quite a bit.
If Mindy Kaling really wanted to make her self-insert show that badly, she should have gone to Wattpad.
she had her own show but it got cancelled because no one watched it
@@asd3601 ohh now it makes sense why they're fucking up scooby doo
Dragon Ball Evolution: "I am the Worst Show Adaptation Ever!"
Mindy Kaling's Velma: "Hold my glasses."
At least DBE doesn’t try to despise/spit on their fans. DBE has bad writing,but it’s goofy bad kind of movie. At least I can find some entertainment about that movie while Velma has *N O N E*
Edit: Even one of the actors redeemed himself by voicing Zamasu in Dbs
@@fr0ck360 DBE was the result of studio interference. They apparently changed the script last minute making it nonsensical.
Wow, this has got to be the most mediocre comment I've ever seen! lmao.
That was a movie, not a show. Poor James Marsters.
@@Shockguey Honestly studios really need to learn that sometimes it's best to let the content creators they have use most if not all of their creativity than limiting it.
Mindy absolutely hated Scooby-Doo as a kid, because idk what you would call Velma other than pure spite that was only made in order to nuke a wholesome franchise from orbit and then salt the earth for good measure.
She was probably seething that her brother became what her father always wanted and even when she was on TV she wasn't as culturally attractive as a doctor.
I never liked Scooby-Doo as a kid, either. But even I can say this show is a travesty to the series.
She probably hated that they were white, friends, and had fun.
I am kind of tired hearing how "She hated Scooby Doo", because the only information we have to go on she says she loved scooby doo and found it scary.
It is so stupid and dumb trying to invent more fictitious reasons to dislike something. Beyond that it is conspiratorial as hell.
@@SioxerNikita We can't exactly go by anyone who works on the project for information. Especially when it's to their benefit. Though I agree that she probably didn't hate the show as a kid.
If she does hate the show, it's cause she had to use the ip then her original. Probably more akin to spite then actual hate. Honestly I think it's either this, or she was banking 1000% on shock value and thought she was could run with it.
The amount of pure uncut copium involved in the making of Velma probably drained the entire supply out of Copeghanistan.
Amen.
Not Copenhagen?
To think that it literally all started with Mindy liking a jk Rowling tweet.
They apparently dug up a blog post written by her in 2007 about the Writer's Strike where she coincidentally called herself "Conservative".
Even if she was (and it wasn't a joke about how she didn't want to strike like a lot of writers did at the time) you can't spend 16 YEARS in Hollywood and not conform to their ways or have been cancelled by now.
@@a.wadderphiltyr1559 I was literally about to read it as Copenhagen but the op disappointed
And Copenstein.
I've said this on everything I could put it on. It makes me crazy. Velma says Fred and white men can get away with murder and are privileged. Velma hits Daphne with a tire iron, sells drugs, breaks into Fred's home and a dead body is found in her locker, she's walking around free. Fred gets shot twice and go's to prison for a crime he did not commit. How did no one notice that?
This iteration of Velma is also very racist. She's constantly complaining that white people are privileged, but completely disregards the opinions of white people just because they are born white.
Scooby does not want that snack
Hollywood: we hate you
Me: good, then I’ll never go hungry.
Hollywood going downhill was inevitable but absolutely what they deserved
"Evil cannot create, it can only corrupt that which the forces of good first created."
Remember guys, "body positivity" doesn't apply to men. If you got a little Johnson that is to be laughed at, but don't you dare make fun of a fat chick.
“Not since she hulk…”
That wasn’t that long ago
They didn’t tell us physics would be required. Does time speed up or slow down as you approach a black hole before being sucked in
@@richtes Its all relativity. your perception of time never changes even as you cross the event horizon but your time slows down and falls to 0 at the event horizon from an observers perspective.
I think that's the point of the joke? That we didn't think we'd see anything quite that bad again for a while and immediately got something worse.
Wokeists can't write likeable protagonists because their bitterness and spite leaks into the characters they create. I'm genuinely shocked by how mean-spirited Velma turned out to be. It was a rather alarming insight into how lefties see the world.
This isn't a "leftie" thing.This is an out-of-touch rich elitist extremist idiot thing. This does NOT represent liberal-thinking. It is a demented aberration of it, just like QAnon and the Trump Cult are a demented aberration of conservative thinking.
And this is why we divided leftism into socialist and liberal.
Characters they "create"? No, they steal original ones and then twist them to suit their purpose and agendas.
Thing is a great deal of artists and authors sit on the left. Terry Pratchett, Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, all lefties. Even JK Rowling, who everyone in the extreme left seems to wrongly believe is some kind of fascist, wrote Harry Potter with a lot of lefty sentimentality. The left is where a majority of artistic and creative work we all love does come from. George Lucas, again, lots of lefty sentiments in his stories. They're just not extreme left or this weird perverse 'Hollywood-Left' that nobody outside of that stupid bubble really likes.
Not likeable for normal people anyway, but for people who think like them, this character is amazing.
I was thinking of this the other day and how it's such a shame female protagonists have been getting brutalized in recent years by these awful shows; Santa Inc, She-Hulk, and now Velma. For shows that claim to be feminist, they sure love topping themselves to see who can make the most unbearable cast of characters.
What's sad is that it took 8 years for the liberals to figure out these shows don't care about equality.
They have no concept of how to write a good female character because they don’t even know what it means to be a good female human being
@@LynetteTheMadScientist this
@@Imperials3nate Thank you, I've been trying to say that for years.
A lot of these crazy SJW's seem to confuse Tokenism for Diversity.
@@LynetteTheMadScientist This statement is also completely accurate.
The spoilers conversation is hysterical. I’d like to add, “It’s like saying you ruined a perfect piece of 💩 by putting a footprint in it.”
😂
Bravo.
We already had a great adult version of Scooby Doo.
RIP Mike Tyson Mysteries.
RIP Norm MacDonald.
Where can I watch that?
That show is amazing
As someone who grew up with Scooby Doo, this is absolutely insulting and horrible
F :/ just watch older episodes
Same I also grew up with Scooby Doo, and to see the source material bastardized like this, just so Mindy can virtue signal and pretend to be a good person.
@@declanjones8888 mindy kaling has always been a gossip/drama actress so ye...... it would be interesting to see her pitch to wb.
I’ve always thought Mindy was annoying and completely unfunny. Watching her on the office was a chore..I’m not surprised she had a hand in something so terrible..I grew up on Scooby and the gang ..this is fukd
No one will be able to see Velma again
I miss Scooby Doo because it was only about solving mysteries by a group of highschoolers who in real life they wouldn't work together. I loved it because the jock wasn't a douc#ebag, the pretty girl wasn't a mean, actively hostyle b¡tch, the nerdy girl wasn't laughed at and was valued by what she had to contribute with. And because it was aimed at kids, the sexuality of the characters was so secondary you could spend your whole childhood watching it without knowing/caring about it.
Plus Shaggy and Scooby, they were adorable. I miss old fashioned children tv shows.
Who would have thought Super Natural would portray Scooby-Doo better than someone making an actual show.
I have seen porn parodies that show more respect too the source material than Velma does to Scooby-Doo.
Harvey Birdman and Venture Bros. showed more affection to Scooby-Doo than THIS abomination.
Scooby Doo x Supernatural crossover is the best episode!
Scoobynatural worked because the Supernatural characters knew better than to make everything super edgy and violent and were okay with being cameo characters.
"Velma" ironically matches almost verbatim the Robot Chicken sketch where they replace Daphne with...someone. The edginess, the overly-smart characters, the lesbian make-out session, its all there. But that was a one-off parody, this is unfortunally real.
@@danielchen2071 I 'member that sketch. They replaced Velma with Lisbeth Salander from "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo".
I think the change to Fred makes me the angriest. I always thought he was a lowkey hilarious golden-retriever of a human that got a snort out of me every once in a while. They massacred my boy so bad.
Another case of "your better off watching the reviews than the show"
Except most of those reviews are as politicized as the films they're reviewing.
People still watch shows these days? Ya'll haven't learned yet?
@@CleverGirlAAH Thank you for acting sane.
Studio execs: "Ok Mindy, this is the time for you to get funny!"
Mindy Kaling: "That's my secret: I've never been funny." (proceeds to destroy entire show)
They should have Scrappy Doo on the show so we know they honestly despise us
They'd make him the good guy.
She's already Crappy Doo.
Scrappy doo is a better character than Melma
Wait til season 2
It's been a while since I've seen something bring everyone together like this.
Everyone from every walk of life has joined under the banner of absolute hating Velma.
I'm reminded of the controversy around one of the creators on the Powerpuff Girls reboot writing himself into the show as Blossom's crush, and how creepy it was that the grown man was writing himself into a relationship with the literal child. Of course, he was a man, so he was an acceptable target to blame.
Ah yes Jake Goldman one of the writers. Did you know he wrote the painbow especially along with another writer who later made a cartoon herself before her Tumblr post about her outing herself as a pdfile was found and harassed her workers came out?
Yeah interesting trivia
'Velma' doesn't hate us, Mindy hates us.
IMPOSSIBLE, you died in zanzibar!
@@viridisxiv766 Even Cyborg Ninjas are still shinobi and can use shadow clone jutsu. 😜
@@MrPrincepop Time to formulate malware for you cyborg ninga ass.
@@santosdr2 Ha, I'm still a shinobi! [hand sign] Shadow clone jutsu!' [POOF] 🪵!
@@MrPrincepop I put a chakra sensor on you to monitor your movements,
The main inspiration for my channel was a livestream where Drinker and Az both talked about how burned out and dismal they were after watching so many awful shows, and how they needed to go back and watch some classics to purify their psyches. Figured I'd save myself the suffering and just celebrate the great things of yesteryear... while taking potshots at trash along the way.
Somebody got bitter that she couldn't make her own Daria show...
Daria was clever. Velma was not.
Sounds like Scooby Doo is getting the Doctor Who teddy bear treatment.
(Cue Sam Neill Event Horizon scream)
Ooooooooooooooooahoooahhhoooaahhhhh
Imagine if the studio hired some talented comedy writers and actors and over dubbed the animation with an alternative script
That would be perfect
this is a heck of a good idea.
best of all, it doesn't require a studio.
a group of fans and/or critics could do it themselves.
@@sillystuff6247 Yeah I was thinking of SAO Abridged where the story makes far more sense and gives the characters better motivation while being funny on top of it.
It's pretty short, I'd recommend it as a case study.
Good idea for RUclips series, post altered episodes of Velma and dub in new lines.
@@msmaria5039 YES!
The feeling is mutual...
Hollywood seems to think that we're asking for an edgy and "adult" version of our childhood memories. In reality, I want my kids to have the same clean, wholesome memories I was allowed to have. Save the adult content for adult shows and I wont have a word to say about it
Nothing's for kids anymore.
Evil is the perversion or mockery of the good. This is what we are seeing in our modern stories.
I saw Little Platoon’s velma video a couple days ago and it was one of the best I saw on the topic. It’s awesome to know he’s a part of this crowds. You guys all rock 🤘
Hear, hear
I didn't know the term femcel but it totally applies to her
This show is a reflection of how Mindy wished her high school years were.
On the tweet Mindy Kaling liked from JK Rowling:
The ironic part is that it's a tweet that Mindy herself sounds like she'd say. It was Rowling responding to some random person. The random person said, "How do you sleep at night knowing you've lost a whole audience from buying your books?" and she says "I read my most recent royalty cheques and find the pain goes away pretty quickly."
Spiteful and hateful would be the words I used to describe Mindy Kaling in everything I've ever seen her in. That's just what she is.
Like who hurt her? I mean it literally…
@@fr0ck360A privileged life in the Northeastern nexus of American culture. A candyland of elitist arsehats who think they rule us. She wasn't hurt, that's just what she is, and they are too.
This nonsensical show made me tune into Scooby Doo Mystery Inc. Show - it is amazing by comparison. Thank you Mindy ❤
Its really sad that Mindy became like that. I think that her work at the Office was quite good and self aware. The sucess must have triggered her dark (no pun intended) side somehow.
Or she was always like this, but at The Office she wasn't in control.
It's OK to bodyshame a teenager if he's white and his parents are rich, that's what I take from this show.
That’s how leftists work: no rules, ethics, or morals apply when it comes to people they hate. They are so completely ensconced in their tribalism that they can’t comprehend notions like ‘everybody plays by the same rules.’
To them, it would be wrong to bodyshame Fred if he professed left wing views. But since he’s not part of the ‘good people’ tribe, he deserves whatever awful treatment they give him.
For something he has no control over, none the less… not like it’s the result of following Mindys diet of strictly McMuffins and therefore ending up a fat wreck… dudes just got a little Wang…. Oof.
I’m still partial to the theory that the original script wasn’t meant to be a Velma show. But they were told the only way they’d get funding to make their script into a show was if it was a “modern reimagined version of a classic cartoon” so they just randomly selected Mystery Inc and awkwardly forced the characters into the already pre written show that had nothing to do with them.
I guess Daria was not available for licensing
Just take a look at the creator ...
Yes, she looks EXACTLY like You pictured her !
This show is more a morbid fascination than a source of entertainment
Scooby Doo came out at a time when I was getting to the age where childhood fun was slipping over to the teenage side. I enjoyed it but it was not like some of the older ones I liked. Having said that, I detest another attempt to subvert anyone's fond childhood memories. Childhood is an age of innocence for most of us and it is very short. It shouldn't be perverted by adults with a sick sense of .... whatever it is.
Does it seem like the people who grew up with the same nostalgia you did have misinterpreted the meaning in order to capitalize? Because as a woman who grew up through the 90's-00's, I see the current "Strong female fight EVERYONE rawr!" trend as an attempt to overcompensate for the "Just sit down and wait for your prince" trope from my childhood. A very misguided, tone-deaf attempt, devoid of nuance.
William Hanna and Joseph Barbara are spinning in their graves.
There are a lot of women incels, we call them cat ladies.
Even the furry thinks they’re delusion. That says everything.
The show that makes fun of a spoiled, privileged, rich person who grew up getting and having everything he needed, without any challenges… just like Mindy herself.
At this point, HBO Max's animation department is listed as a charity for tax purposes.
The feeling is mutual, Velma. The feeling is mutual.
@@DmOnNicgrmThecriticalDrinker44 No, go away now.
The real question is, who or what is *NOT* hated by this show? 😏
Mindy
@@lordphill807 Mindy and crazy SJW's, who think that skin colour is the only thing that matters.
Velma Kaling
Strong diverse women of colour
What gets me is The Venture Brothers did the Scooby Doo satire that this is so desperately trying to be using less than 5 minutes of a B plot in a 22 minute episode. The joke was perfect. It landed perfectly. And it was all we needed.
The way Drinker described how Velma needs to get files sounds like a convoluted fetch quest or something from like WoW.
I never watched she Hulk, but I felt the hate from it. Velma, I watched someone's reaction vid, and it's like.. it feels like whoever wrote it hates everyone. It's just so horrible. Disgusting.
You shouldn't watch something and go:"Wow, whoever made this hates people."
Honestly, I do think it's just Mindy here. Or maybe everyone who made it just poured their hatred and vitriol into it. They need a therapist and some serious chill pills if they go around like this on a normal basis.
The horror...the horror...
I watched the Little Platoon's review on Velma and I knew things are REALLY F*CKING BAD when he immediately started the video with a raised voice... That's not how TLP rolls with his ASMR intellectual voice!
Holy crap drinker you assemble every reviewer I've been watching lately. Good work.
Velma should have her own odorant brand. Balance out the deodorants.
"I don't wanna see that"
"I mean, speak for yourself, just not these two."
Indeed. Velma and Daphne from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back? I could stand to see a bit more.
I'd like to see the extended cut of that scene.
With some doobie snacks of my own.
My understanding is the me too thing is from the fact that Mindy literally got me too-ed for sexual harassment cause she harassed a fellow actor, and then kissed them without consent.
The only reason Mindy included that tidbit about pre-cancel culture comedians, is because she went on Conan and admitted to sexually harassing a male co-star. Mind you, they had applause and laughter during the "joke" she told, but that old clip is out there nonetheless and she knows it.
hope melonie interjects herself more into the conversation in future round tables.
it's not so easy for professional talkers to leave space for others to jump in.
but if they learn how, and keep their monologues short,
the ensemble will become greater than the sum of its parts
If you watch the entire podcast she speaks a lot more later on during the show.
Like you said it's hard to learn when to break into the conversation.
Maybe Drinker should chair it and cue people in, they could raise their virtual hands like you can on a Zoom call.
I doubt that he's aware that he is supposed to mediate the discussion as a host of a round table. Hell, he often doesn't let his guests talk in 1:1 interviews. He has potential, though.
Why not just subscribe to her channel?
She doesn't need to say anything. She's hot af. That's sufficient.
I knew this would be a mess when they described the female characters with some tragic backstory then they described the male characters with jokes like, Fred has a small pp and shaggy was laughed at for having feelings for someone. All female characters are tragic heroes and male characters are just jokes and you're suppose to laugh at their struggle
Velma hates you, hates comedy, hates Scooby Doo, hates Velma, etc.
Pretty sure the creators of this show hate existence and all things in it.
The true scooby do experience is discovering why this show was even created. Is it some sort of scheme, is it a money laundering plot, a political scheme. Then we discover that it’s actually just a bitter director behind it all
Or it's the plot of Mel Brooks' "The Producers": rip-off investors for money to dump into a project to create a truly reprehensible piece of "entertainment", so they can't be paid back. "Velma" is Mindy Kalig's "Springtime for Hitler".
They were like can we make show worse than she hulk.🤣
Mindy Kaling: HOLD MY VELMA!
Bible says things will get worse before they get better.
@@bighand1530👍.
Things could always be worse, and probably will be.
Have a nice day.
@@dragonforks93 You’re probably right but things will HOPEFULLY improve
Velma: "What. Is. My. Purpose?"
Me: "To give critics easy content to shoot at."
Velma: "Oh. God."
Velma was my kid crush. Mindy Kaling was my celebrity crush when she was on THE OFFICE. (Before I heard her speak as herself and made several projects I could not finish watching.) That the two combined to make something I found repulsive is an accomplishment.
Dear God! What attracted you to that waste of oxygen?
She was your celebrity crush? 😳
Hooley Dooley… what fetish is that??!?
Disney: I have written the most spiteful and insecure heroine with She Hulk
Warner Brothers: …Hold my bier.
Good one, *cheers!*
"where did those jokes from the other side come from"
Probably from the SA accusations against Mindy Kaling
Mindy Kaling, taking your spiteful, angsty teenage diaries and turning them into a script ISN’T writing.
2:16 - 2:32 you are the second person to point that out.
Pippa also pointed that out because mindy directed a teen drama, and also outed herself for sexually harrasing an actor during a rehearsal, then threatening the man to keep it hush, or she ruins his career.
The Little Platoon was on point. You almost think Velma has a plot, but then nope.
There was so much they could do with good writing. Going from 4 teens that would never hang out together to a well developed and successful mystery solving team has so much potential for a good story. But the writers obviously have no life experience to call on to help them develop this story.
I think our dream production team is lining up now. They've all proven themselevs:
Producer: Lauren Hissrich
Director: Ruin Johnson
Writers: Mindy Kailing, Jessica Gao and some hungry Baboons with keyboards
Starring: Tatiana Maslany, Warwick Davis and Ruby Cruz
Make that movie NOW!
The hungry baboons are the most talented people on your list 😂
An openly racist, sexist show that mutilates a beloved character and respective franchise. Actually rather impressive
I'm all for using the term "Don Draper" as shorthand to describe a character who frustratingly keeps resetting to their default state over and over again. But it feels just a little too esoteric, and that's coming from someone who's seen Mad Men in its entirety. Don Draper's characteristics just aren't as commonly known as someone like Ned Flanders.
I know the show had a lot of hype early on, but I'm not sure it ever really had the numbers to match. And those numbers only ever went down. Plus, it seems like there are so many more glaring examples of characters like that. Rick Grimes comes to mind. Or House, for the vast majority of the series.
As a Gen Xer, pretty much all the good stuff from my childhood has been shat on.
Is it true that Scooby Doo can't appear in Velma because, according to current woke laws, his character would need to be voiced by a dog?
Drinker seemed to be surprised that had to go all the way back 3 months to find a show as obnoxiously mean-spirited. 3 months is nothing. In the 20th century, there weren’t really any mean-spirited shows. Oh, how things have changed.
thanks for enduring such a torture so i dont have to.
This just makes me want to get the lego Scooby Doo minifigures even more
My favourite part of this saga is the PYSOP allegations.
The only "spoiler" would be if a listener wasn't completely warned off this show.
how is velma's blatant racism even allowed?
imagine a show constantly complaining about black people, would that be fine?
This is the question. How is it acceptable to openly hate people based on race… it’s never been acceptable in my lifetime, and only become an issue in the last 10 years due to nefarious media.
Looking at grandy's history im not surprised at the horrendous writing of velma.
This is a great RUclipsr line up for this stream lmao, love all these creators
I genuinely don’t get how HBO released the pilot of the Last of Us and Velma in the same time frame.
One has enormous potential and the other is one I hope will be cancelled soon. (Yes I know they renewed it for some reason.)
I like how you said “not since shehulk” like it was ages ago when it was like 2 months ago. 😂