Tik Toker Claims Roller Coaster Restraint Failed - Theme Park Nonsense
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2023
- A user on Tik Tok claimed that her restraint on El Toro at Six Flags Great Adventure failed mid ride. Is this possible? Is her story true?
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Damn, you probably explained this better than I did! Great video man, well done
Thanks, I originally found out about this situation because of your video. Great job bringing this to a wider audience!
@@CoasterCollege likewise! You did a great video Coastopia :)
I saw your video a few days ago as well. Crazy seeing you here
Hey bro your video was super enjoyable too!!
Your video was so good too!
"So now I have PTSD"
God, I hate TikTok users more than I hate redditors.
I agree. She also sounded like her restraint didn’t fly open. She wouldn’t been freaking out if it actually happened 😂
There's nothing wrong with tiktok. Attention seekers use any platform to do this shit. If tiktok wasn't a thing it would be Instagram. If that didn't exist it would be youtube, and so one etc.
@@chumon1992yes but tiktok much more than other sites encourages ragebait behaivor
Someone who has PTSD doesn't sound that calm
She seems awfully calm for someone who claims to have nearly flown out of a roller coaster. Seems like more internet attention seeking
She also got many things wrong with the safety systems themselves lol
I hear a lapsus at 2:19 trying to say "almost"
Far too calm for a ride known for its extremely violent ejector airtime
@@Chico_Juliotrue I didn't realize that
Honestly this lady sounds like she is full of it. She is way to calm tonnage experienced this. Back in the 80s when the Great American Scream Machine (6 flags Over GA) just had a lap bar I was a skinny kid and the lap bar didn't hold me in securely so I caught a lot of air on the hills. This scared the shit out of me tonthe point it took over 20 years before I would get back non it and the safety features have been greatly improved. I was panicked as could be trying to explain what happened even a week later when we went back to the park with my grandparents. Her story had a lot wrong with it and details are important. As my dad would say this doesn't pass the smell test.
Anything I see that starts with "Tik Tok user" or "Instagram influencer" I immediately assume is complete bullshit at this point.
Exactly! Anyone who has experienced how El Toro tries to eject you from the train and still believes this nonsense also believes that Münchhausen pulled himself out of a swamp back in the day by yanking on his hair. There is simply no way you are able to hold your restraint down while experiencing ejector airtime.
Same here!
The irony is as I was reading this, an Instagram ad popped up.
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and you are correct at least 99.98 percent of the time.
For a traumatized girl with "PTSD" who thought she was going to die on a roller coaster, she sure is snide about the whole thing. I can't imagine almost re-enacting Final Destination 3 and coming away like "can you believe they only gave me a Dippin' Dots voucher?" Exaggerating or social media brainrot for sure.
Don't forget she said she's going to enjoy that voucher later. Like if this really happened that voucher would have been thrown back at the employees face not accepted and enjoyed. Its really too bad her lapbar didn't fly open.
Some decades back, I was on a roller coaster that had a shared security bar for the row and it was just me and a guy who was easily at least 3 times my size in that row. It was a wooden coaster and while he was secured fine, I wasn't and was jolting around enough I was completely convinced I was going to fly out of the seat. I didn't say anything, but when I rejoined my friends afterwards, they knew something happened on that ride. The absolute last thing on my mind was getting something from the theme park, I was more relieved that I was still alive.
@@MSinistraribro I’ve lived this exact same experience, shit’s terrifying.
@@spiritdrop7335 I too have had this experience lol. I think shared lapbars were pretty common 30 plus years ago and when a child sits next to an adult let the unsafe fun begin 😀 Gen X for the win.
If the park were to sue her for libel, they'd instantly win as they'd be able to call her out for her lies (e.g. El Toro doesn't go upside down)
Sounds like she picked the wrong roller coaster to pretend to have experienced a malfunction
you can say that again
The way that ride operator allegedly responded is similar to how back when I was working retail and a customer insisted we check for a product we knew wasn’t in the back, we’d pretend to go check and just stand behind the warehouse door for a minute.
It feels awful but there’s really nothing else you can do.
Me: "Well you came to the roller coaster for the adrenaline rush and thats what you got isnt it? Did you die? Ok bye now!"
The "i know you're full of crap but i can't actually say that" voice. I know it well.
@@erikawilliams9558 most def. she hit her with the "Sure, Jan."
Idk, I'm fairly sure most ride operators in that situation would actually go to the seat in question and at least test the restraints just to show there was nothing wrong. If for no other reason than to be like see? You're fine. They certainly wouldn't let the train go out again without checking. Her story just reeks of bullshit to me. Like, if she's so fucking scared why is she talking completely normally on tiktok instead of calling the police?
Omg yes I do this do like when ppl go “Well the website says u have 1 in stock” I’m like bruh it got stolen or misplaced we ain’t finding it.”
When I worked at Cedar Point, and I worked Millennium, people would say this to us on a maybe monthly basis. People who don’t know what airtime is or negative G’s constantly confuse their body being weightless and a little off the seat for the restraint failing. We would do the same thing the ride op did, tell the, sorry and give them a food voucher or something like that. Although in this case with her having a “big” following online, the fact that she posted about this and is spreading lies and giving that ride op and park a bad name, she should have been asked to leave the park
If I was in Six Flags' position, I'd straight-up have her trespassed from the whole chain.
Yeah some coasters I'm out of my seat most of the time but that means the restraints are doing their job. How do people not know air time is intentional?
I honestly loved the ride op's response.
I don't understand how you'd mistake airtime for a restraint failing. Like, you saw what they looked like open when you got in the seat, you felt how they didn't stay shut until locked. Unless it's someone's first time at a park it's like, how?
Shortcut: If YOU believed that the safety system failed during your ride, *how desperately* would you have tried to stop the ride before the next passenger got on? 🤔
VERY VERY Hard
I think since El Toro has such powerful g forces she think the restraint was coming up even tho it could’ve been her experiencing airtime
Several problems with her story: 1) she claims there was nothing holding her in when her restraint popped up. This is false, as there are seatbelts. 2) she claims it wasn't going upside down at the time - El Toro never goes upside down. She is clearly heavily embellishing the story here, which makes her unreliable and calls the rest of her story into question.
The second part, inversion one, ironically never killed people
The one that actually killed people is airtime
3: For going though something pretty traumatic she even claims to have ptsd, she is really calm about it if not in 'Karen mode' Like you'd imagine that she'd be freaking out and throwing a bigger fit than just going onto tictoc and complaining the the park gave her free ice cream.
Her story is such bullshit, it stinks worse than an entire football teams unwashed underwear. The way she constantly looks to thw side, the way she catches herself saying something and then back pedaling to change what she's saying, the way that she claims to have "PTSD" while being completely calm and acting as if she just got snubbed by the pizza guy. Like, her whole demeanor is that of a bullshit artist. Fuck her, and fuck her acting like she's traumatized when she's clearly just lying. Making up trauma for attention is so gross and I suggest that her parents give her a damn hug or something because clearly she I starving for it.
@bocahdongo7769 as a RMC fan :(
Like shes supposedly there with friends, and one of them would have been next to her, right? So why does she say "rhe person next to me" had to hold it down, and not my friend or say the name? Why not have the friend chime in about how scary it was? Is it because a friend didn't actually do anything, it was a made up moment so in her mind it wwas a random person? That way you couldnt have someone to ask about it later theyre just an anonymous hero? If something like that happened to me and my friend came to my help I'd be like thank God XYZ was there and helped me, and have all the gratitude for the friend who supposedly helped keep you from nearly dying
I was hoping you would cover this. I'm not ruling out that she is just straight up lying, but she might have confused the -2.2Gs on El Toro for the lapbar suddenly not holding her down anymore if I give her the benefit of the doubt. Then she probably thought it was a good idea to exaggerate it for tiktok, not realizing how big of a fucking deal this would have been, if it had actually happened as she claimed.
If it had actually opened there is no way she would have been able to 'hold down' the restraint for one, but once the train was in the station wouldn't she have been the first one to get out before the other restraints were unlocked? I'm sure that would have drawn some attention from the ride operators. She also doesn't look like someone who just went through a near-miss death scenario.
Also, if both hydraulic systems failed during the ride, they wouldn't just magically start working again for the next rider in that seat.
100% did it for clout.
I'm almost certain that most modern roller coasters (especially the most recent ones) have sensors in each train that detect solenoid failure on the restraints and IMMEDIATELY send a signal to automatically trigger an emergency stop should one occur. Could be totally wrong, but either way, her story has too many holes to give it any shred of narrative reliability.
She's definitely absolutely died at this point if it's true
@@Dumbrarere verifiers, yep
Toro does NOT hit -2.2gs. -1.8 max when running extremely fast
As somebody with PTSD you don't "get PTSD" instantly after an event.
PTSD is formed when the brain does not properly process and recognize a traumatic event as being in the past- and it naturally takes time to process things, especially if its trauma.
That part, it's not instant. She got scared, and maybe a bit traumatized or scarred by it (if the story is true), but in nobwaybdoes she now have ptsd just later that day. It takes time and isn't just an immediate reaction to something.
Like I had a car accident a few months ago (rear ended hard enough to slam into another car while stopped at a light) and thought I was mostly fine beyond the bruising. It was after time and dealing with insurance and having my car scrapped that the nightmares started and a strong anxiety about driving set in. Friend with training said recently I'm showing some signs of ptsd, and yeah she may be right. If things don't chill out soon gonna have to go see the doctor to see if it's actually ptsd or just anxiety related.
If you listen to her video closely, she self snitches about what really happened! When she says she went to talk to the ride attendant, she starts to tell them her “bar ALMOST came up,” the catches herself partway through the word ‘almost’ and changes it to ‘COMPLETELY.’
It’s clear to me that something unremarkable happened on the ride that scared her (on a roller coaster, too. Who woulda thought?). While she may have actually believed the restraint ALMOST popped up during the ride, she also clearly knew no one was going to take her drama seriously unless she embellished the story. So I call full BS on her story and I believe she knows it’s BS as well. What a Drama Karen she is…I almost, wait, COMPLETELY don’t believe her 😆
Another thing that to me shows she's self-snitched: She mentions someone was trying to hold down her restraint when it came undone, but that person didn't come with her to any of the future interactions she had, even though that would've made her case much stronger.
I caught that "almost" slip too. She's definitely lying for tiktok views.
Her slip up there and just her general storyteller tone and expressions had me not believing it. I can say it looks like she and I have a similar body type, and it's not uncommon for restraints to feel loose on me even after the attendants have pushed them down tighter. I frequently have room to move, and on older rides with click-down positions I can hold shoulder harnesses entirely off my body (Batman: The Dark Knight at SFNE never wants to hug me tight). It is freaky in the moment especially in negative Gs but knowing how the restraint systems work has made me much more confident that, despite my tiny stature giving me some wiggle room, the restraints are not failing.
I think she got surprised by a restraint that was locked securely but not as tight to her body as she would have preferred. When the first people she told sounded dismissive of her fear, she took the story online and embellished it to sound like her life was genuinely in danger so people would take her fear seriously and validate how unsafe she felt.
@@Ace-du7vwit's sad she feels the need to do that. If one of her friends had explained to her what actually happened and been like "ohh i see you felt scared but don't worry, etc." She probably would have been fine. Unless she's jsut bullshitting for views which would be shitty. But what you say makes more sense to me.
The lack of specifics make me wonder if she has ever been on a roller coaster her entire life.
PTSD? Did she even know what the term PTSD means? It isn't a term you can just throw around claiming that you have PTSD and is extremely untasteful to the people that really have PTSD.
With regards to whether the incident happened or not, I think it is highly unlikely that it has happened and I have a feeling she might be confusing airtime with the feeling that the Restraints is getting loose. Since there is no video evidence or witness suggesting that they had to hold the restraint down, I highly doubt it. If she really is sure about that happened, then surely she can try to sue six Flags about it. But without video evidence (which wouldn't be possible anyways), how can you prove that it happened and we are to believe her experience?
With regards to what guest relationship did, that was really well done. However, I think the ride op should have handled the issue more seriously and contact maintenance on the first hand to check if a guest approaches them with regards to restraints.
As someone who actually has PTSD and has had many hours of treatment including CBT (not to do with a certain leaf CBT😂) I completely agree with you. This silly little girl really hasn’t got a clue.
@@Beefy2203 Oh sorry to hear that😔😔. Hope its get better for ya!
I don't think they really grasp what PTSD is. I used to work with a guy who insisted he had it because he got yelled at as a kid to clean his room. The eyerolls he got from the combat veterans we worked with were something to see.
@@Beefy2203 PTSD isn't the only thing she has no idea about. She doesn't know anything about coasters either. She probably confused airtime for her restraint coming up.
As someone who actually DOES have PTSD, I can tell you she's absolutely faking it! To a downright INSULTING degree, in fact!
The biggest flaw in the story is her claim the she and the passenger next to her were able to hold the restraint down for the remainder of the ride. If it had actually failed, she would have been ejected from the ride. El Toro pulls very strong negative G's (apparently less than -2 on its strongest airtime hill) and there's no chance she would have been able to keep it down with over twice her body weight acting against her. This story is completely bogus.
I get the point, but the seatbelt is also there holding it down. Although something that debunks what I just said is that the ride did not close and people that went after her had no issues, so the hydraulics couldn't have failed or the same thing would have happened again. Yes, I debunked myself.
@@Temptazeralso a seatbelt can’t hold down -2g’s
El toro isn’t that strong. It goes to somewhere between -1.5-1.8 when running fast on the RT hill, but it feels stronger because it abruptly transitions into it
No way even comes close to that 😂
she also said "my restraint ALMOST completely popped up." she caught herself before completeing the word almost but it was there for sure. defenitly fabricating the story for views. they 100% just pulled down the lap bar to the first notch for air time and were not expecting El Toro to be as forceful as it was.
If anything, El Toro's restraints DON'T open, lol. I'm one of those lucky riders who had maintenance come and manually unlock my restraint because it wouldn't open after the ride ended and everyone else had already exited the train.
I think either one of 2 things happened to Sammy Quinn- either this was this girl's first experience with air time, mistaking that for danger.
Or a request she made had been denied so she decided to fabricate this story.
After watching her story, it's quite comical to me that she's so calm recalling her fabricated tale, claiming to fear for her life while still at the park, and then claiming she would've been satisfied with a full park refund. So to her, her life was worth more than a snack voucher but less than $60? MAKES. NO. SENSE.
Not only is she giving the park and coaster bad press, but she has the audacity to claim negligence from the op staff.
As a frequent guest of SFGAdv I can personally vouch for the op staff that they follow all protocol by the book, especially in a situation where a guest is concerned about safety restraints. The supervisor is alerted of a possible safety issue. An incident report is filed. First aid is offered to the concerned guest. The ride is then shut down. Maintenance manually checks all restraints and then a test train is sent through the course. If no concerns present, the ride is reopened after such an investigation.
So the fact this young lady Sammy Quinn states the staff dismissed her concern is a straight up lie and I believe legal action should be pursued against her for defamation. She should also receive a permanent ban from all Six Flags properties and TikTok.
Fully agree with you on all counts. Some other commenters on here are being a little too nice in my opinion and giving her the benefit of the doubt that she was just scared by the airtime, but I personally think she knows exactly what she is doing. El Toro already had the derailment issue that led to it being shut down before , and I think she knows this and is capitalizing on the ride's bad reputation to make her lie sound more believable.
I think she should be given a chance to state she was lying on public record. If she does, then no legal action. But if she doesn't take it, I'd agree with her being taken to court. There is NO chance she is not lying about the restraints, period.
Agreed on the consequences, as this is clearly someone who has never experienced one. Seriously, saying she has "PTSD" from this is an insult to millions of people who have died from that, and her abject failure to even examine whether her story was possible, much less likely, tells me she doesn't care about learning or truth. If she had some serious consequence from this bullshit she might learn, not just to be more respectful of the working people who run these rides, but that there are other people in the world who don't like it when you treat them like objects.
I agree completely and want to go one step further and say we should just delete tiktok forever... just in case...
The girl saying she has ptsd is so upsetting. My life was ruined for 3 years thanks too ptsd
Yeah, that pissed me off too. My niece was a victim of severe child abuse and *actually* has PTSD. For little teenybopper there to conflate fear with PTSD is just disgustingly insensiive.
Glad I'm not the only one bothered by that. I don't have PTSD but I hate when people just throw the term around willy nilly.
@@jackpijjin4088 yeah It was severe bullying for me plus suicidal attempts and trauma for that hearing someone joke with ptsd When I know what flashbacks do to you is angering
@@alisabartlett2247 yeah I have adhd too so that is fun also A popular tiktok diagnoses
@@ingvildkvakestad I'm not kidding when I say visiting a *restaurant* that her abuser used to take her to causes her to completely shut down, thousand-yard stare and all.
PTSD is not a joke.
It is virtually impossible that the restraint popped up during the ride. Both hydraulics failing at the exact same time would be infinitesimally unlikely. She is lying. Over the years, I have heard this same exact BS story from people about how the restraint popped up during their ride, or their friend's ride, or their uncle's best friend's third cousin's ride and how they "almost died" because of it. But how coaster restraints even work in the first place makes that possibility virtually zero, almost outside the realm of even theoretical possibility.
Another thing that even a lot of enthusiasts don't realise is that modern hydraulic restraint systems often utilise an alternating locking system in the station. When the operator locks the bars, the system will withdraw power from only one of the solenoids in each restraint mechanism, meaning only one cylinder actually 'locks'. This means that if one cylinder fails, the failure won't be concealed by the other cylinder working as intended. When the train next comes into the station, the opposite cylinder is tested to ensure both cylinders are regularly checked throughout everyday operation. Upon the train dispatching, both cylinders will, of course, lock regardless because the power will be withdrawn from both solenoids. This means that it's virtually impossible to operate a ride with even one failed cylinder, because it'll be noticed within two dispatches of a train at an absolute maximum. For the restraint to unlock, you'd have to have both cylinders fail almost simultaneously AND have the seatbelt/any additional safety measures fail at the exact same time which is virtually impossible.
El Toro is like that. They lock one cylinder before the restraints are checked, and the other cylinder locks after all the restraints are checked. You can clearly hear when the second cylinder is locked.
My best guess: she had a little more room than expected and didn’t realize it until the intense negative forces, at which point she was probably spooked and obviously without time to think she just held on for dear life. Then at the end she attributed the restraint staying to her act of holding down ignoring the reality that it never came up.
I don’t think she had I’ll will. Just a GP who had a scary and unexpected moment on a very intense rollercoaster and belt the need to share it.
People should probably know better than to believe this though because there’s no chance her restrain just “completely popped open” and frankly if it dead she wouldn’t be around to make these tik toks
Her shockingly casual attitude when claiming that she "now has PTSD" is a big red flag to me as someone who is actually diagnosed with that disability for real. That right there is the main reason I find her story very hard to believe.
As a ride operator myself I have guests once in while make these claims. Have never once found any issue with the ride. If a guests reports something like this our procedure is to suspend operation and have maintenance check the seat in question. and like I said 100% of the time nothing has ever been found after a guest reported the restraint unlocking mid ride. But as a ride operator you have to still do your job to keep everyone safe even though sometimes the claims are ridiculous you always have to go the safe route to have it checked out. The ride I work at also has hydraulic restraints as well. I think sometimes people get some of that airtime and they think they're flying out of the seat so they think the restraint unlocked, that's my guess. But if the part with the ride attendant is true they should train what to do in that situation better to their employees.
Of course shes faking it
I understand.
Isn't that what "influencers" do. Create something out of nothing.
She just want her fame and money, she got the fame in a negative way..
@@ianskovsted8744 No such thing as getting fame in a "negative" way for "Influencers". They're the definition of shameless.
I've said that once or twice bro
She could have been trying to pull a scam for her Tik-Tok followers to their reaction. Like you said it doesn't go upside down and the restraints won't just pop-up
It’s obv fake bc she said “it did not go upside down at the time” and El Toro does not go upside down obv
@@AmazedBunion maybe not ban her but give her a warning
It is obvious that shes lying because the second her restraint opened she would have went to the fcking sky
And the fact that she now claims PTSD from a momentary fright and upset at the compensation are huge red flags to me.
I can tell you that they do not mess around with Lap Bar safety on El Toro. I have ridden it over 50 times and they always push down on my Lap Bar harder than any other coaster I have ever ridden. I am glad they do because El Toro is one heck of a crazy awesome ride that requires this for maximum safety. Glad she was ok and hopefully they will get to the bottom of this. Great videos as always.
I hate how she says "I now have PTSD" like it's not a serious disorder
“Restraints pop open mid ride” huh, pretty sure that the rolling thunder hill would’ve made her day a whole lot worse if true. 💀
Glad she’ll “never ride a roller coaster ever again” that’s one less person in the queue! 🎉
Silly GP learning what ejector airtime is… 😂
Using “GP” as an insult unironically 🙄
LOL someone doesnt know something about an incredibly nieche hobby
@@daniel.909 it is true that GP are incredibly obnoxious to most enthusiasts when it comes to roller coaster. I have heard somebody tell me once, in all seriousness, that the best “roller coaster” at kings island was boo blasters.
@@RealWildWalter Oh no someone was "obnoxious" about not knowing something about an insanely nieche queue I'm so sorry
Well, now we know for sure she is lying. Her latest Tik Tok, she revealed that she exaggerated everything. She was on Runaway Mine Train, not El Toro, and her restraints only went up a click.
Isn't GA's Mine Train one of the ones that still has the original one-position Arrow lapbars? There's no way it could have come up just a click, those are all-or-nothing (like PTC buzz bars).
When i was a kid, probably 13 or so, i rode a Ring of Fire ride and i seriously felt like i was about to slip out of my restraints when i was hanging upside down. It was around 20 years ago but I still vividly remember hooking my feet under the seat in front of me and wrapping my arms around the restraint and feeling like it was the only thing keeping me from falling out. It freaked the heck out of me, i was 100% convinced i barely escaped with my life and was slightly traumatized. I had nightmares of falling out of that ride for a long time and I still have occasional nightmares of falling out of a roller coaster. But in hindsight obviously the restraints were fine, if i could have slipped through them i would have... so, if i were to give her the benefit of the doubt maybe something similar happened to her???
Glad you covered this! I see way to much of this nonsense, and it scares my GP friends out of riding coasters. Will show them this!
I'm pretty sure she wouldn't even be alive to tell this story in the first place if her restraint truly failed knowing how airtime packed El Toro is known to be. So it's pretty damn obvious she's lying.
Also, as someone who is diagnosed with PTSD for real, I can say with confidence that she's totally faking that as well! In fact, I find it downright insulting to real PTSD sufferers that she'd claim to have that disability while acting so disgustingly casual when describing the very traumatic event that supposedly gave it to her.
hi im diagnosed with cptsd and can often casually discuss parts with someone. please don't take that to mean someone has to be faking. i don't think this girl has PTSD because her story is bullshit, not because of how she talks about it.
@@themischief420 I am aware that everyone experiences PTSD differently, and I'm not trying to invalidate people who do try to be casual when discussing past traumatic events 'cause that is admittedly not uncommon (hell, I've done it myself as one of my coping mechanisms for better or worse). But I find the TIMING of her saying she "now [has] PTSD", having such a casual attitude about a traumatic event that supposedly JUST happened to her at the time that TikTok was recorded, felt more than a little odd. Like her attitude didn't help her case when she was already telling a hard to believe story, ya know?
Stormrunner also had an "incident" like this, where a father claimed his son's restraint never locked.
She’s really like « I have ptsd now 🗿 »
All I had to read was ‘TikToker’ and I knew she was a clout-chasing drama queen.
I love how she describes how the attendants respond to her because for me that fully exposes that this is a lie. It is so reminiscent of working in service and having to deal with customers lying to get free stuff.
I think there’s always a little truth to lies like these, I bet while in the station she was sitting forward, and one she hit the bottom of drops she likely got pushed back in her seat, therefor the lap bar “came forward” but not actually, she just moved back, I bet that’s what happened and then she might have genuinely thought it broke or something
The fact that she insulted all the people who called her out in her bs really shows that shes talking out of her arse
Her story about "holding the restraint down" already gives her away -- unlike ratcheting restraints, Intamin hydraulic lapbars can't go down mid-ride any more than they can go up. If something happened, the restraint would be locked in the open position, and wouldn't move downwards.
She’s just making this story up. 1) if both of the hydraulic cylinders were to fail then there’s a seatbelt holding her in place. 2) El toro never goes upside down.
Social Media "celebrities" who commit libel and slander should be hunted in court by the businesses and individuals being attacked by such claims. Two or maybe three trips to the court systems with some decent news coverage watching these media spotlight hogs get served some reality and this foolishness will stop.
i watch a LOT of true crime and police interrogations. the way she’s describing what happened sounds so similar to the way a lying criminal lies in interrogation. between the stuttering, long pauses, unclear timeline, extra unwarranted details, and her overall demeanor. while i’m no psychologist, her video made me uneasy to watch. felt like i was watching someone lie right to my face.
you really just said "i watch a lot of true crime" 🤓🤓🤓
@@oldfag_adventures i do :) i’m very glad you have the ability to read, thanks for sharing it with us!
Listen when she says the lap bar flew open she stutters and catches herself from saying ALMOST.
She probably got airtime then said it failed.
Or it’s a gp that got air time for the first time
yeah, that's what I think too
The little slip up from her going to say “almost” to “completely popped up” is funny to me. It might have felt like something slipped but the restraints didn’t pop up.
Claims the restraints failed yet no investigation was done and no reports of injuries for her or anyone else. Doesn't know the layout of the ride she said she was on. Self diagnosed PTSD from this event. Has a monetary incentive to lie for views. Giving her the benefit of the doubt, maybe she confused the slight give of the restraints for them being unlocked but certainly if that happened there would be quite the scene as people panic and raise alarm around her after witnessing the restraints fail. The simple answer is it didn't happen.
She said at 2:20 ALMOST completely popped up. That's a big difference from a failure. It doesn't sound completely true. I've ridden plenty and have had restraints on Medusa at SFGrAdv and Raptor at CP pop up a notch because it wasn't completely clicked into place. it scared the hell out of a friend of mine who won't ever ride an invert again (Not sure why Medusa didn't bother him). It happened on the lift hill I think, it was so long ago I can't remember but I remember it clicking down tighter than I normally would have clicked it. It didn't phase me, the restraint jus wasn't fully clicked into place. I didn't do that intentionally-just one of those things. I have never had a restraint pop open, nor has anybody I know of had it happen. I've ridden ElToro plenty and love it...can't see how those lap bars could just pop open.
Bro the same thing to me happened on raptor but it came up all the way somehow before the lifthill. It is a different type of restraint in terms of the tech. Medusa and raptor have what are called ratchets which include a gear and pin clicking down into different points along the restraint, while hydraulics lock wherever the person holds it. You can make a ratchet go up a couple clicks (or all the way in my instance) if you push on it too hard. Also you could just like push the restraint back down into place and it will stay which is something nobody is mentioning.
I think the restaint might've moved a little, as they typically do are rides with lots of hills, valleys, and turns, and now she has convinced herself that the restraints totally failed. I deal with people like her all the time, and they're honest to God the worst
Ok as someone whose had a season pass to Six Flags Great Adventure for years and has been on El Toro many times. That girl is making that story up. If your restraint came up on that ride you would IMMEDIATELY be thrown from it. That is the most intense ride I've probably ever been on (stopped riding it recent days because it's too strong for me). There is no way she and ANYONE else could've held her in. The flimsy seatbelt with the metal prongs that go into each other could not hold someone in without the lap bar. Also, where is the person who was helping to hold her in? You'd think they'd be just as traumatized and on the video as well. And the fact that she threw in the OBVIOUSLY incorrect upside down comment when the ride doesn't go upside down is just the nail in the coffin. It's like she'd never even seen the ride. I call CAP, like the kids say these days.
3:18 "I now have PTSD" Wow, you got a diagnosis of PTSD like... an HOUR after you got off the ride that caused it?
Gurl...
Yea…. Had that really happened she’d be crying and stuff. ESPECIALLY on El Toro?? The restraint popped up on El Toro…. The craziest airtime in the world…. And you’re calm??
I think she's lying tbh because she seems way too chill about it. I fainted on a coaster once as a kid and basically shut down emotionally for the rest of the day. I didn't get the courage to ride coasters again for a couple of years after that. If I had something as scary as a restraint failing happen to me on a coaster, I would be really shaken up. But this girl is talking about this "incident" with the same tone as telling a story of how irritated she was that McDonald's messed up her lunch order. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that maybe, as you suggested, she mistook the roughness of the ride with the restraint moving. But I wouldn't be surprised if she just made up a story to try to get a viral tiktok.
As someone who used to go there all the time in high school I think she just got way more airtime than she was expecting and freaked. It’s hard to explain unless you’ve been there but Nitro and El Toro’s lap bar restraints aren’t anywhere near as accommodating as other coasters, if you’ve under 5”5 or you’ve got a short torso you won’t be unsafe by any means but you will get thrown around and leave with a major headache afterwards.
The ride staff at Great Adventure especially don’t really push down as hard as ride operators do at say Universal when checking lap bars, just slouching during the final check is usually enough to get you some extra airtime during the ride but I can see people accidentally getting their experience and being freaked out.
Opening up 4 inches possibly, but that is not a failure and wouldn't kill you. I just think with social media clout chasing it's too hard to tell who is honest these days.
How would it open 4 inches?
@@inlinechris I was saying that at the absolute most with sloppy linkages 4 inches I could believe, and that still wouldn't be a failure.
As somebody who has been on El Toro, she could not have possibly lived to tell the tale.
I NEED ATTENTION BUT NOTHING HAPPENS IN MY LIFE! 💡 Time to lie on social media
I hope Six Flags react by giving the train a thorough inspection and then suing the crap out of her if they find that there is nothing wrong with any of the restraints. It's very improbable for them to fail in the first place, but if they did, they would not magically repair themselves.
The park should sue her for defamation.
I'm guessing she was confused, thinking that the extreme airtime meant the restraint was failing.
100 percent lying through her teeth. Any coaster that recieved this report would close for saftey checks before reopening to the public.
I was waiting for you to talk about this! It pissed me off she said that she has PTSD because it's ruined my life for years, but I do think she's lying. All she wants is clout
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"uhm i now have PTSD and am terrified" no girl. you dont diagnose yourself with ptsd twenty minutes after experiencing something that was kind of scary. if you can still talk at your phone and roll your eyes, youre gonna be okay. you dont know you have PTSD until it makes itself known to you.
Her life isn’t even worth dippin dots lol
There was a wooden roller coaster at Rocky Point or Lincoln Park when I was a kid where I almost died. The bar that comes down and locks you in didn't lock in place and popped up. Before I knew it we were off, a boy next to me saw what was happening and held on to me for dear life as I wrapped my arms around the loose bar. I could've died that day but survived and I'm still here...
So it's not impossible.
As others are saying, misunderstanding the roughness/airtime at best, attention-grabbing bullshit at worst. The restraint absolutely did not come up, otherwise we would have at least one other source to back this up besides a TikToker who now has "PTSD".
The park needs to take her to court for these claims if they are untrue, it could deflam the reputation of the park.
So she decides to go straight to tiktok after having a potentially life altering event that clearly didn't happen because it would've tripped either a sensor or she would've been ejected from the seat and been killed.
I believe she got airtime and freaked out thinking the ride wasn't working
It's likely that the restraint was simply just not as tight as she expected it to be, causing a freak out.
I remember a time when say you had PTSD meant something. The person next to me farted, I now have PTSD.
My immediate thought is that she's lying. Especially with how little detail about the actual accident she gave. No explanation as to when the lap bar came up, no mention of the seat belt, no details about how far her body came out of the seat with only the seat belt holding her down, and no retelling of dialogue between her and the riders around her, as I'm sure they all noticed and panicked. Surely other guests would have said something. It's worth mentioning that I wouldn't put it past Six Flags to have a failure like this, as they're not exactly known for their safety record (at least in comparison to other major US chains). And they're definitely not known for their good training of ride operators, so I don't doubt that the conversation with the ride operator was true. Maybe the restraint went up a click. I haven't ridden El Toro myself, so I couldn't speak of what that would look or feel like. The cherry on top for me is that she claims to have PTSD when that's a disorder that requires a diagnosis, and isn't something you self-diagnose in a TikTok video two minutes after the supposed incident.
Six Flags should file a lawsuit against her for misinformation & ban her from all amusement parks. Liars like her need to be punished.
Yeah no this is just clout chasing. The fact she is so smug, ingenuine and nonchalant about it while claiming to have PTSD. I can't stand these kids who just want internet clout.
My question is why would she say that? What was the point of that? It's obviously ridiculous as she seemed completely calm, it was not reported on the news, and she was not carrying any attribute that would make the ride fail (extreme size/can't fit, leg amputations), so what was the point of putting Great Adventure in a random scandal? To take away one of the world's most beloved wooden coasters just because it had been in a few other accidents so she felt unsafe? So she can get free passes? Wicked woman. They should ban her from the park so she doesn't have to worry about her "PTSD" again.
I don’t like that she’s misusing ptsd.
Maby she was confused with airtime and thought that pressing against the restraint would cause it to go up.
If her video results in less attendance to the park, does that mean they can sue her for defamation? She made false claims that can potentially hurt the business or reputation of the park purely to get more attention for herself online, more views, and for monetary gain for herself (if she's making money from her videos, this is the kind of thing that would get hee MILLIONS of views).
Seriously, falsely making these kinds of claims may end up landing her in some serious hot water, and you know what? If that happens, I won't feel bad for her. Influencers and social media "celebrities" are getting out of hand with their need for attention.
PTSD isn't a joke. What a horrible person she is to act like it's just some funny illness to throw around
Coaster topia did a great video and he proved that she never went to geust secvices about the ride incident it was a diffrent minor claim
At the start of the video she said that it completely poped up but halfway through she said it partially poped up
0 chance that the restraint failed. The hydraulic cylinders are not going to magically start working again for the next rider. Her claim that the person next to her was holding it down is bogus as well. When I ride roller coasters, the person next to me is the last thing I'm focused on. Even if the person next to you does notice something, it would be so hard to hold it down consistently on such an aggressive ride like El Toro.
Her story with the ride op might be true, or she could just be making up a generic & stereotypical "ride op who doesn't care" response.
I think she is completely making up her story with guest services and I believe she got the Dippin' Dots voucher in some other way. With a claim that extreme, I believe guest services would have taken further action to make sure the ride was still safe. Although, their BS detectors might have gone off as well and the Dippin Dots voucher seems justified in that case.
EDIT: She actually did go to guest services, but did not bring up her "experience" on El Toro at all
I honestly have doubts that she even rode El Toro in the first place. She seemed to have no knowledge of the seat belts featured on the ride. She had 0 clue about the layout of the ride (the whole "upside down" thing). She also never mentioned which specific ride she rode, never mentioned where she sat in the train, etc. It seems to me that she just picked a "dangerous looking ride", didn't even ride it, then made her TikTok video. Maybe she chose El Toro because it's wooden, and the GP tend to think wood costers are less safe? Just a guess
I agree that had the restraint really come loose, neither her nor the person next to her would have been able to hold it down, because that's what's happened in other restraint failure situations. The fact that she seems more annoyed than frightened tells me this was probably a ploy to get free tickets or other swag from guest services. Also... I don't know about El Toro specifically but I'm almost positive modern coasters have alerts on the station panel if any restraint isn't locked. What are the chances there'd be a double solenoid failure AND a simultaneous sensor failure?
The sensors you mentioned do exist on some rides, but they only talk to the controls system while a train is in the station
I experienced a lap bar failure on High Roller in Valleyfair in 2022. It opend a few locks (or what ever the name of these things is) but not entirely. We reported it prior to deboarding and they took the train out of service. Later, the train was back in operation but the row we set in was closed. No PTSD.
I had a ride scare once, not in a rollercoaster mind you. One of those swingy arm ones that puts you upside down. It made a very loud click sound and I jolted forward. If my restraint failed I would have died. But it didn't, and I'm fine. Pretty sure it just didn't latch properly. Scared the hell outta me though.
TikTokers give me PTSD
ya know most of the time when something like this happens the reaction isn’t “let me record a tik tok” it’s “holy shit I almost died”
I commissioned two different coasters. One with ratcheting restraints and one worn hydraulic restraints. When engineering was trying to get a restraint failure on the hydraulic one it took a long time. They had to basically pierce and drain both cylinders to achieve that failure.
Tiktok? Not buying it one bit.
That usually happens when you go on a fast rolercoaster for the first time, sometimes, if your body is not touching the seat, you feel like the restriction "lifted", but it's just a feeling, if that really hapened, she would had to talk to someone else who works there until someone believes her and checks the seat
How does one "hold down a restraint down" in negative G?
Something that can happen while riding a coaster is to adjust your seated position and open space between you and the lapbar, this can give an incorrect sensation of the lapbar opening. I ran into this a lot when I worked at a park.
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Paused as soon as el toro was mentioned, I GUARANTEE that the restraints did not fail on el toro. What she most likely experienced is the weightless feeling on eltoros drop where it feels like you physically come out of your seat. Had the restraints failed, she would have been ejected.
You said this more calm than I ever would. In my mind I would have been going full on enthusiast mode.
So we all know that she claims it was el toro. But allegedly the ride she actually went on was runaway mine train. That makes a bit more sense because of restraint slips but I still don’t believe it came all the way up. and doesn’t el toro pull a ton of negative gs. So for her to be making the video if the restraint came up at the drop would be highly unlikely cause of those negative gs. Other than that this was a great video
She made a follow up video alleging it was El Toro, but I don't believe her either.
This is hysterical. Runaway Train is my favorite ride there, but if a kiddie coaster is intensity level 1 and El Toro is a 10, Runaway Train is a 6 at best. It's an awesome ride but the thought of it killing someone is honestly laughable.
She would be like that crazy lady on the airplane, "THE GUY IN THE BACK OF THE PLANE IS NOT REAL"
There's just no way the restraint failed. Even on Intamin rides that had rider ejections, the restraint always remained locked. It's impossible. If this were a ride with ratcheting restraints, sometimes the lap bar is stuck between notches, and it will pop up to the next notch during the ride. With hydraulic restraints, that's simply impossible on El toro.