... Okay, this issue sums up my issues with Waller as a character. She is a mary sue villain who gets to do anything and everything she wants, and has to face no consequences for her actions at all. She worked in the DCAU because she got confronted with that pivotal final choice: Either stand your ground and reap what you sowed (her paranoia and actions causing the end of the world), or understand the mistakes she made and change course accordingly (which is what happened in the DCAU). Problem is, the later can never happen because it would take Waller out as a villain, so everything we saw in this prelude (and whatever she ends up doing in the actual event series) will actively change nothing. She cannot grow as a character (because, again, her ultimate spite and cynicism is the core of her character as a villain), but they cannot deal with her in any way (because it would, again, just remove her from the story, which is what they do not want.) I'm seriously debating if her or the Joker have more insane plot-armor as villains in a super hero universe.
The fallout from this is gonna extensive....mostly because the Superfamily's holiday get togethers are going to be awkward considering Jay absolutely hates Dreamer now....
I’m still not sure what Waller’s endgame even is for all this, but I’m honestly wanting Jon Stewart, Black Lightning, Vixen, and a couple more to berate her for literally enslaving people. That’d be cathartic if handled properly.
Nope. She will never be more threatening than Darkseid. The only reason she is now is because Editorial is trying to synergise with her upcoming TV show
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw To me, the reason why she’s so threatening is she’s the evil they can’t publicly punch or boom-tube away. And where someone similar in that regard like Lex is solely obsessed with Superman; Waller is obsessed with an entire race of both heroes and villains. She wants to burn them to the ground, only after using them for all they had. In contrast to fighting Darkseid (and almost every other villain) the world needs the heroes, but here (thanks to Waller) the world is literally out to destroy them. Darkseid needs the anti-life equation to achieve that, but Waller does it with strategy, a public persona, and strategic connections.
Hi Joel and good morning Great video about The Amazo League/Absolute Power Ground Zero#1(DC Comic Event), keep them coming, Also your latest video was outstanding, Also Jay's imprisoned for now at least until Absolute Power: Super Son Special(one shot)#1(2024) which ships in September, Also some commenter or two i saw kept theroy- Crafting that Jay will turn evil/become an Anti-Hero with his mother now dead courtesy of Amanda Waller whose actions schemes and lies and plans combined with her Pride, Ego and Arrogance will not only come back to bite her not only come back to bite her in the Ass but also not only destroy her but also destroy her common sense making her delusional and more paranoid than ever, also with Jay's fellow hero Dreamer betraying him when he needed help the most, Also Jay isn't going anywhere and judging by this, freeing Jay from prison and destroying the Gamorra Super Prison will be Jon's goal in his tie in book. Count on it, Also Jon will do everything he can to help redeem him but also help prove his innocence as well as help the entrie Super Hero Counmnity prove rheir innocence and clear their names, Also soon very soon Commander Steel Peacemaker, Dreamer and The Suicide Squad will all finally realize that The entrie Super Hero community are not only good men & good women, not only realize but finally learn the truth that the entrie Super Hero Community are not only Good guys but also innocent of a crime they didn't commit, And alongside Peacewrecker Sarge Steel Green Arrow, and Stormwatch they will all choose their friends and their family and Allies over Waller and help save the entrie Super Hero Community but also turn against Waller during Absolute Power, Also Peacewrecker, Green Arrow, Sarge Steel, and Stormwatch will not only and finally begin to question not only Waller's authority not only Their loyalty not only realize who Waller really is working for but also finally learn the truth that the entrie Super Hero Community are innocent, and the following Heroes(1.Green Arrow, 2.Peacewrecker,3.Sarge Steel,4.Stormwatch(Earth-0, Prime Earth) will not only switch sides, not only choose thier friends and thier family and help save the Entrie Super Hero Community, but also turn against not only the Trinity of Evil but also turn against Waller as payback for her lies during Absolute Power, Also later on the Public and the people now ashamed of their actions will finally learn the Truth that the entire Super Hero Community are innocent and that the Super Hero Community are not only the Good guys but the symbols of Hope and the people and the public will not only turn on Waller but also side with the Super Hero Community against the Trinity of Evil, Task Force7 or Seven, but also against Amanda Waller, Also I too have high hopes that the Public will stand up to or should I say rise up and fight alongside the entrie Super Hero Community and Heroes against both Amanda Waller who is not only manipulated but also used as an unwitting pawn by Brainiac and The Trinity of Evil as a huge homage and tribute to the classic Justice League Unlimited episode The Patriot Act in Absolute Power(mini-series)#4(of)4(February,2024), also the return of the Time Commander was spectacular, Also before that Waller needs to win at least temporarily until she finally realized that Brainiac was using her as an unwitting pawn and that Waller needs to not only lose hard but also for Failsafe and Brainiac to finally show thier true colors and turn against Waller but also betrayed and double crossed Waller and also take everything from her forcing Amanda to not see the error of her ways but also to once again team up with the Super Hero Community/Resistance to not only redeemed herself but to make amends but also to have impact on the story, Also thanks for sharing Joel keep up the good work stay safe out there and have a good day.🙂👍🏋️💪🇺🇲🤛😃❤️🦸 10:21 am.
Hey, I said the same thing about Amanda Waller from the animated series creating her own superheroes with Cadmus to dominate the heroes in JLU. This isn't just 30 years in the making. It's a tribute the classic tv series episode you've mentioned. This storyline to me is exactly similar to Fall of X, Civil War I and II, Secret Wars, Revenge of the Sith, and Devils Reign. Wouldn't you agree?
Coulson: "You're going to lose." Waller: "And how pray tell can that since I have someone that can foresee into the future and I can predict what's going to happen next?" Coulson: "It's in your nature, cuz you lack conviction." 😡 Waller: "I have nothing to fear from these costume individual idiots. And for the record I do have the conviction." 😈 Batman from behind waller: "Well then you're going to like me." 😰 Waller: "Mother (Bleep)!"
Not gonna happen. She knows Batman's identity, has the military cordoned off all the secret Batcaves, plus she has Failsafe with her who knows all of the League's weaknesses as well as Batman's. So no, she wins, period!
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw one failsafe is in fact Batman's dark Ultra ego zur. Two he doesn't trust her anymore than The Real McCoy does. In three he could have easily have killed her any time that he wanted to regardless of her resources. Plus who's to say that the Brainiac Queen and Fail-Safe are going to even listen to her after the whole thing blows up in her face.
Amanda Waller is the new Amon of the DCU. Others might call her SIster Sage or Emperor Palpatine now that she has combined Batman and Lex Luthor's contingency plans, an army of androids (sentinels/ Nimrod) who can steal and copy superpowers.
Maybe this is something that will happen but what are Wallers assurances that this time guy doesn’t build in some fatal flaw in Failsafe 2.0 and the army that she can’t identify. I mean like she can’t make the robot so how would she be able to understand what’s meant to be there and what’s not. Seems like kind of an oversight on her part perhaps a fatal one
I kept looking at the cover thinking "did i miss a wonder woman tie in" but then i remembered that suicide squad book led into this. Is she even in the book?
Correct me if I’m wrong but… what’s the point of fashioning the Amazos after individual league members? Wouldn’t a bunch of regular Amazo bots be more effective?
Did waller resurrect the zur en arr personality in the zursaif robot? I mean we don’t see the red speech bubble or the chk chk speek from pre zur possessed failsaif the speech bubble is purple identical to zur en arr speach bubbles
I do believe this is supposed to be the original Failsafe. Which is kinda weird because Waller met Zur but not original Failsafe. I could be wrong, and it could be a speech bubble mistake, however.
@@CapedJoel it would fit with wallers mo of controling and manipulating a clean slate robot baby like in case of brainiac Queen though if failsafe body is a clean slate . but why the Batman costume frum when zur was possessing failsafe and not original design?
@@ytsi7505 Probably having a "Batman" on your team would scare the daylights out of your enemies (those that could be scared) plus like what Matthew said with it being an artistic choice and design. We're probably going to get Failsafe plus Amazos with their justice league design in one panel so having the Batman design fits.
No no they beat Zur in the main Batman book before he could make good on giving all those other multiversial Zur's bodies of their own. Waller was able to swoop on in and steal the unfinished Amazo's though
Blood Hunt, so far in my mind, has been a little thin and needlessly stretched over 60 odd tie-ins, but it's certainly not bad. Absolute Power is gonna be shorter. Beyond that, it's a little early to tell. I did like issue 1 a lot more than I thought I might.
@@CapedJoel Agreed with Blood Hunt having way too many tie-ins, making it difficult to keep up. And also recently a few tie-ins turned out to be SUPER important to the main event book (Black panther, Dr. Strange, & Strange Academy namely!)
I know we’re in a comic universe but I gotta ask. Who invented the Chronal routers? Like that’s crazy, technically you can manipulate time manipulation. Is this scientist recognized for their achievements? They must be, this has to be in a science magazine somewhere. I NEED TO KNOW, dammit!
They have a throw-away line about how Waller had parts from Chronos and several other time traveling villians laying around. So I'm guessing she had one or more of them build it over time.
I don't know what feel about this. This feels either The Wall wins or The Wall will loose really bad. I also hate that DC is making Titans not feel alike Main Force of Hero community.
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw I amn't saying She won't. But the stakes are so higher for her that she needs to win or she needs to loose hard to have impact on the story.
@@ghostrouxinol6169 she won't lose. Not with so many resources she has, through stolen or confiscated means. And she is pretty much unstoppable and untouchable until the plot says she loses, and that is at the very end of the event!
Well, he's not dead, just imprisoned. Some commenter or two I saw kepts theory-crafting that Jay will turn evil/become an antihero with his mother now dead and a fellow "hero" betraying him when he needed help the most
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw if that’s the case that could solve one of my Jon Kent’s problems with his friend being a villain he could finally leave him and never see Jon ever again which would be a good thing in my opinion.
@@TevyaSmolka me too. And hopefully like you said, good riddance. Jon needs a real, actual girlfriend (preferably Yara Flor) and not a gay boyfriend just to score diversity/LGBTQ points!
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw oh I agree one hundred percent even though the thing that I want most of all is for dc to finally deage Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy back to his 10 year old self and pick Up where his story truly left off, and if I can’t get that then that compromise you suggested is a better alternative then doing nothing at least in my opinion.
Dang, Time Commander; haven't heard this character in a dog's age (and I'm old enough to remember Mr Mind killing him)
Gotta love a good deep cut.
52! 52! "IT'S ALL HIS FAULT!"
... Okay, this issue sums up my issues with Waller as a character. She is a mary sue villain who gets to do anything and everything she wants, and has to face no consequences for her actions at all.
She worked in the DCAU because she got confronted with that pivotal final choice: Either stand your ground and reap what you sowed (her paranoia and actions causing the end of the world), or understand the mistakes she made and change course accordingly (which is what happened in the DCAU).
Problem is, the later can never happen because it would take Waller out as a villain, so everything we saw in this prelude (and whatever she ends up doing in the actual event series) will actively change nothing. She cannot grow as a character (because, again, her ultimate spite and cynicism is the core of her character as a villain), but they cannot deal with her in any way (because it would, again, just remove her from the story, which is what they do not want.)
I'm seriously debating if her or the Joker have more insane plot-armor as villains in a super hero universe.
If this is the absolutely final and/or last ever amanda waller storyline of all time then that saves this a little bit.
Somehow this leads to the Absolute Universe, a Ultimate-style adjacent continuity.
The fallout from this is gonna extensive....mostly because the Superfamily's holiday get togethers are going to be awkward considering Jay absolutely hates Dreamer now....
I’m still not sure what Waller’s endgame even is for all this, but I’m honestly wanting Jon Stewart, Black Lightning, Vixen, and a couple more to berate her for literally enslaving people. That’d be cathartic if handled properly.
Well, it’s official, Amanda Waller is the Dolores Umbridge of the DCU. At this point (solicits included), she makes Darkseid look like a lightweight.
Nope. She will never be more threatening than Darkseid. The only reason she is now is because Editorial is trying to synergise with her upcoming TV show
Man i forgot that tv show was a thing @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
@@warioskapelli3100 and it is coming. Just have not announced the release date yet
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw To me, the reason why she’s so threatening is she’s the evil they can’t publicly punch or boom-tube away. And where someone similar in that regard like Lex is solely obsessed with Superman; Waller is obsessed with an entire race of both heroes and villains. She wants to burn them to the ground, only after using them for all they had. In contrast to fighting Darkseid (and almost every other villain) the world needs the heroes, but here (thanks to Waller) the world is literally out to destroy them. Darkseid needs the anti-life equation to achieve that, but Waller does it with strategy, a public persona, and strategic connections.
@@karate-cobras9542 I know. She basically represents the government and it's bureaucracy
Hi Joel and good morning Great video about The Amazo League/Absolute Power Ground Zero#1(DC Comic Event), keep them coming, Also your latest video was outstanding, Also Jay's imprisoned for now at least until Absolute Power: Super Son Special(one shot)#1(2024) which ships in September, Also some commenter or two i saw kept theroy- Crafting that Jay will turn evil/become an Anti-Hero with his mother now dead courtesy of Amanda Waller whose actions schemes and lies and plans combined with her Pride, Ego and Arrogance will not only come back to bite her not only come back to bite her in the Ass but also not only destroy her but also destroy her common sense making her delusional and more paranoid than ever, also with Jay's fellow hero Dreamer betraying him when he needed help the most, Also Jay isn't going anywhere and judging by this, freeing Jay from prison and destroying the Gamorra Super Prison will be Jon's goal in his tie in book. Count on it, Also Jon will do everything he can to help redeem him but also help prove his innocence as well as help the entrie Super Hero Counmnity prove rheir innocence and clear their names, Also soon very soon Commander Steel Peacemaker, Dreamer and The Suicide Squad will all finally realize that The entrie Super Hero community are not only good men & good women, not only realize but finally learn the truth that the entrie Super Hero Community are not only Good guys but also innocent of a crime they didn't commit, And alongside Peacewrecker Sarge Steel Green Arrow, and Stormwatch they will all choose their friends and their family and Allies over Waller and help save the entrie Super Hero Community but also turn against Waller during Absolute Power, Also Peacewrecker, Green Arrow, Sarge Steel, and Stormwatch will not only and finally begin to question not only Waller's authority not only Their loyalty not only realize who Waller really is working for but also finally learn the truth that the entrie Super Hero Community are innocent, and the following Heroes(1.Green Arrow, 2.Peacewrecker,3.Sarge Steel,4.Stormwatch(Earth-0, Prime Earth) will not only switch sides, not only choose thier friends and thier family and help save the Entrie Super Hero Community, but also turn against not only the Trinity of Evil but also turn against Waller as payback for her lies during Absolute Power, Also later on the Public and the people now ashamed of their actions will finally learn the Truth that the entire Super Hero Community are innocent and that the Super Hero Community are not only the Good guys but the symbols of Hope and the people and the public will not only turn on Waller but also side with the Super Hero Community against the Trinity of Evil, Task Force7 or Seven, but also against Amanda Waller, Also I too have high hopes that the Public will stand up to or should I say rise up and fight alongside the entrie Super Hero Community and Heroes against both Amanda Waller who is not only manipulated but also used as an unwitting pawn by Brainiac and The Trinity of Evil as a huge homage and tribute to the classic Justice League Unlimited episode The Patriot Act in Absolute Power(mini-series)#4(of)4(February,2024), also the return of the Time Commander was spectacular, Also before that Waller needs to win at least temporarily until she finally realized that Brainiac was using her as an unwitting pawn and that Waller needs to not only lose hard but also for Failsafe and Brainiac to finally show thier true colors and turn against Waller but also betrayed and double crossed Waller and also take everything from her forcing Amanda to not see the error of her ways but also to once again team up with the Super Hero Community/Resistance to not only redeemed herself but to make amends but also to have impact on the story, Also thanks for sharing Joel keep up the good work stay safe out there and have a good day.🙂👍🏋️💪🇺🇲🤛😃❤️🦸
10:21 am.
Hey, I said the same thing about Amanda Waller from the animated series creating her own superheroes with Cadmus to dominate the heroes in JLU. This isn't just 30 years in the making. It's a tribute the classic tv series episode you've mentioned. This storyline to me is exactly similar to Fall of X, Civil War I and II, Secret Wars, Revenge of the Sith, and Devils Reign. Wouldn't you agree?
I love that Time Commander Johnny Star's new look is so very anime!!
Hope you'll have a good day
Coulson: "You're going to lose."
Waller: "And how pray tell can that since I have someone that can foresee into the future and I can predict what's going to happen next?"
Coulson: "It's in your nature, cuz you lack conviction."
😡 Waller: "I have nothing to fear from these costume individual idiots. And for the record I do have the conviction."
😈 Batman from behind waller: "Well then you're going to like me."
😰 Waller: "Mother (Bleep)!"
Not gonna happen. She knows Batman's identity, has the military cordoned off all the secret Batcaves, plus she has Failsafe with her who knows all of the League's weaknesses as well as Batman's. So no, she wins, period!
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw one failsafe is in fact Batman's dark Ultra ego zur. Two he doesn't trust her anymore than The Real McCoy does. In three he could have easily have killed her any time that he wanted to regardless of her resources.
Plus who's to say that the Brainiac Queen and Fail-Safe are going to even listen to her after the whole thing blows up in her face.
@@kamenrangerzeo8251 one of the Solicits does say that Brainiac Queen will turn against Waller in an upcoming tie-in
Amanda Waller is the new Amon of the DCU. Others might call her SIster Sage or Emperor Palpatine now that she has combined Batman and Lex Luthor's contingency plans, an army of androids (sentinels/ Nimrod) who can steal and copy superpowers.
Your voice is cool.
Thank you thats always nice to hear
This DC event 1000 times better than Marvel's Blood Hunt garbage.
Maybe this is something that will happen but what are Wallers assurances that this time guy doesn’t build in some fatal flaw in Failsafe 2.0 and the army that she can’t identify. I mean like she can’t make the robot so how would she be able to understand what’s meant to be there and what’s not. Seems like kind of an oversight on her part perhaps a fatal one
I kept looking at the cover thinking "did i miss a wonder woman tie in" but then i remembered that suicide squad book led into this. Is she even in the book?
I think I saw a tie-in cover. I do believe in the Tom King book Diana has been fighting Waller's new Bureua of Sovereignty via Commander Steele
Waller is working with the Sovereign in WW & also in Beast World where they formally consolidated their partnerships
@@CapedJoelnot only that, but in an earlier issue, Steel was shown conversing with Waller how to take down Diana
Queen Brainiac will probably be the key to defeating Waller.
Correct me if I’m wrong but… what’s the point of fashioning the Amazos after individual league members? Wouldn’t a bunch of regular Amazo bots be more effective?
Hey Joel, is there any chance you'll cover Get Fury issue #2?
Honeslty between 2 new event books and the return of weekly animated reviews I don't see it making it the cut sadly
Did waller resurrect the zur en arr personality in the zursaif robot? I mean we don’t see the red speech bubble or the chk chk speek from pre zur possessed failsaif the speech bubble is purple identical to zur en arr speach bubbles
I do believe this is supposed to be the original Failsafe. Which is kinda weird because Waller met Zur but not original Failsafe. I could be wrong, and it could be a speech bubble mistake, however.
Possibly
@@CapedJoel it would fit with wallers mo of controling and manipulating a clean slate robot baby like in case of brainiac Queen though if failsafe body is a clean slate . but why the Batman costume frum when zur was possessing failsafe and not original design?
@@ytsi7505 probably artistic choice and design
@@ytsi7505 Probably having a "Batman" on your team would scare the daylights out of your enemies (those that could be scared) plus like what Matthew said with it being an artistic choice and design. We're probably going to get Failsafe plus Amazos with their justice league design in one panel so having the Batman design fits.
so which is in the failsafe robot, failsafe or zur-en-arrh?
I think its supposed to be the Failsafe Robot. But we've not really heard enough from him yet to know for certain.
More like a multiverse invasion of corrupted batmen again except not from dark multiverse but from the zurverse?
No no they beat Zur in the main Batman book before he could make good on giving all those other multiversial Zur's bodies of their own.
Waller was able to swoop on in and steal the unfinished Amazo's though
@@CapedJoel you sure about that also are the multiversel Batman unaware that thier zurs are gone?
@@ytsi7505 probably not
Im curious joel what seems more interesting to you this event or blood hunt
Blood Hunt, so far in my mind, has been a little thin and needlessly stretched over 60 odd tie-ins, but it's certainly not bad.
Absolute Power is gonna be shorter. Beyond that, it's a little early to tell. I did like issue 1 a lot more than I thought I might.
@@CapedJoel fair assessment once again I hope you have an awesome day man thank you for the videos
@@oceanwavedvd Thank you kindly
@@CapedJoelSo you prefer Absolute Power? And if so, which tie-ins will you cover?
@@CapedJoel Agreed with Blood Hunt having way too many tie-ins, making it difficult to keep up. And also recently a few tie-ins turned out to be SUPER important to the main event book (Black panther, Dr. Strange, & Strange Academy namely!)
I know we’re in a comic universe but I gotta ask. Who invented the Chronal routers? Like that’s crazy, technically you can manipulate time manipulation. Is this scientist recognized for their achievements? They must be, this has to be in a science magazine somewhere. I NEED TO KNOW, dammit!
They have a throw-away line about how Waller had parts from Chronos and several other time traveling villians laying around. So I'm guessing she had one or more of them build it over time.
@@CapedJoel oh, I was hoping for some unsung hero story but ya know that works too lol
I don't know what feel about this. This feels either The Wall wins or The Wall will loose really bad.
I also hate that DC is making Titans not feel alike Main Force of Hero community.
The Wall WINS. Hands down
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw I amn't saying She won't. But the stakes are so higher for her that she needs to win or she needs to loose hard to have impact on the story.
Waller is the anti Batman so of course she’s smarter than kid Superman and the titans.
@@ghostrouxinol6169 she won't lose. Not with so many resources she has, through stolen or confiscated means. And she is pretty much unstoppable and untouchable until the plot says she loses, and that is at the very end of the event!
@@Thatskeybladelover which is unrealistic as it gets when it's usually the other way around
I hope with this event I don’t have to deal with jay nakamura ever again because god almighty I never liked that character in my opinion.
Well, he's not dead, just imprisoned. Some commenter or two I saw kepts theory-crafting that Jay will turn evil/become an antihero with his mother now dead and a fellow "hero" betraying him when he needed help the most
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw if that’s the case that could solve one of my Jon Kent’s problems with his friend being a villain he could finally leave him and never see Jon ever again which would be a good thing in my opinion.
@@TevyaSmolka me too. And hopefully like you said, good riddance. Jon needs a real, actual girlfriend (preferably Yara Flor) and not a gay boyfriend just to score diversity/LGBTQ points!
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw oh I agree one hundred percent even though the thing that I want most of all is for dc to finally deage Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy back to his 10 year old self and pick
Up where his story truly left off, and if I can’t get that then that compromise you suggested is a better alternative then doing nothing at least in my opinion.
@@TevyaSmolka unfortunately we will never get 10-year old Jon ever again. But at least he should have a more 'age-&-gender appropriate' love interest
Is dreamers name pronounced nii’a or nee’a ?
Both
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw I’m only familiar with her nee a pronunciation from supergirltv series