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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
  • Recorded live at Tokyo Bay N.K. Hall, 23 May 1995
    Ensemble Intercontemporain
    Pierre Boulez, conductor

Комментарии • 109

  • @Beansoup1
    @Beansoup1 8 лет назад +7

    aside the musical discussion, its plain awesome seeing this man conduct. Just imagine how hard that must be. If not for the music, just watching him directing the Ensemble is worth the time on its own. Hes a Jedi.

  • @ronshalom907
    @ronshalom907 9 лет назад +16

    This is the best music in the universe.

    • @dou40006
      @dou40006 8 лет назад +6

      Yes to be played in public in restrooms so that people stay as little time as possible for the next person to takes his turn.. Perfect to cover the sound the sound of defecation, burp, farts and vomiting....

    • @63jenkins
      @63jenkins 8 лет назад +5

      +dou40006 Do U mean the sound of you own words ..??

    • @MaestroTJS
      @MaestroTJS 7 лет назад

      +dou40006 Damn, you found a use for this music after all!

    • @christoph7395
      @christoph7395 6 лет назад

      Perhaps we need to move to Japan?

    • @TheBartok44
      @TheBartok44 6 лет назад

      Pretty close - I agree. What these folks underneath are talkin' 'bout beats me. Deaf and dumb?

  • @robertslagle7176
    @robertslagle7176 8 лет назад +5

    What a beautiful performance of a composition that take my ears and soul on a wondrous journey. Thanks for posting.

  • @GenericGoogleAccount
    @GenericGoogleAccount 9 лет назад +8

    This is a masterpiece, love it !

  • @Cleekschrey
    @Cleekschrey 8 лет назад +7

    One of my favorite pieces. Thanks for the upload.

    • @MrVito1958
      @MrVito1958 8 лет назад

      +Cleek Schrey Sono d'accordo

  • @TheBartok44
    @TheBartok44 6 лет назад +1

    Wonderfully sensual and enjoyably complicated like a forest or like walking a long path and observing everything. Fresh air!

  • @helmut733
    @helmut733 9 лет назад +4

    incredible.

  • @sleepylagoon1310
    @sleepylagoon1310 6 лет назад

    I am In Flight, Far from Earth, Beyond the Known Heavens, and Further Still ~ Beyond Einstein's Time and Space ~ a Journey of Unimagined Delights !!! Merci, Pierre Boulez ♥♥♥ !!!

  • @Sortirai
    @Sortirai 8 лет назад +1

    Je l ai vu lors d une présentation à metz. Dans les années 80 je m en souviens même si la musique est unique!

  • @egapnala65
    @egapnala65 7 лет назад +3

    One of his more conservative works. Has recognizable rythmic elements for a start. Can't see why it's inspiring negative comments.

    • @christoph7395
      @christoph7395 6 лет назад

      I'd be interested to know who came before him,

    • @renep9968
      @renep9968 6 лет назад

      If you cannot understand there are people who dont like Boulez, you must be pretty self-centered.

    • @ethanfoss5601
      @ethanfoss5601 3 года назад +1

      @@renep9968 leaving negative comments about a piece is different than disliking it

  • @whollybro
    @whollybro 8 лет назад +1

    I listen to this quite often at the lake.

  • @EL-et4ft
    @EL-et4ft 8 лет назад +10

    The last great composer. RIP.

    • @Thoraxziod
      @Thoraxziod 8 лет назад +2

      +Ed Ebb
      Boulez is dead!
      I did not know that until I read down to your post and then checked on the internet to make sure. I will miss the expectation that he will lay off conducting and happen to create more pieces. He made such timeless, superb music. I wish he had made more. His music was so distinct to him: nobody else could get near it in his arena, and that kind of music has to be hard to compose because I am sure it was like creating the foundations of music each time and the sound world must of been as new to him as Palestrina's music was to Palestrina's time.
      Outside of the Viennese School (and I know his aim was to work from them and ventured beyond), he has to be one of the greatest if not THE GREATEST atonal, 12 tone, serialist, modern, whatever composer. It always seems to me that all the contemporary composers that don't even try to be as original as him create music with a sense of blandness -- like I have heard this before again and again - but his music never had that problem.
      I will print this again at the top of the video page so someone like me, that did not realize he passed, may find out as well.

    • @EL-et4ft
      @EL-et4ft 8 лет назад

      You are spot on. He was one in a billion. A magical being sent to bring us the most incredible music yet imagined by our species. It's astonishing and I'm grateful for the gift. Cheers!

  • @ComponCar12
    @ComponCar12 8 лет назад +1

    Fuera de lo convencional y extraordinario como siempre, Pierre Boulez.

  • @MrVito1958
    @MrVito1958 8 лет назад +2

    Certamente a Frank Zappa piaceva questa composizione , come Boulez era curioso Di Zappa, Loro come tanti Altri avevano frequentato Darmstadt , immagino gli uni curiosi degli altri , non conosco gli sviluppi contemporanei

  • @au4836
    @au4836 8 лет назад +13

    The anti-Boulez crazies on here are funny lol

    • @johnappleseed8369
      @johnappleseed8369 8 лет назад +3

      They have always been amusing to read, so are the anti-Schoenberg and anti-Stockhausen crazies! haha

    • @johnappleseed8369
      @johnappleseed8369 7 лет назад +4

      Zhangjiaoshou not at all, they're the people with destructive opinions who have nothing better to do than treat their opinions as a religion they need to preach.
      Music theory has nothing to do with loving or being inspired by music

    • @wormknob
      @wormknob 7 лет назад +4

      Zhangiaoshou - I'm sorry you seem to hold a notion that there is latent musical elitism here; that certainly is not my personal impression. John was quite obviously referencing the nutty vitriol on the comments section on RUclips specifically, not people who do not like modernist music in general. And yes - the trolls and weirdos who stalk the comments sections around here, freely disseminating their rancour *are* toxic and destructive. I don't see why anyone would find that statement controversial..

    • @MaestroTJS
      @MaestroTJS 7 лет назад +2

      Boulez never engaged in musical polemics and wasn't one of the most rabid ideologues in musical history. How can these crazies be so mean to such a kindhearted gentleman? Surely they should say nothing at all, just like Boulez never said anything about anyone!

  • @Thoraxziod
    @Thoraxziod 8 лет назад +4

    Boulez is Dead!
    I did not realize until I happened to scroll down and read Eb Edd's post!
    I will miss the expectation of him maybe laying off his conducting to compose more of his own work. He made such superb, timeless music that could never be recreated with that genius again: I wish he had created more. His music was so distinct to him: nobody could get near it in his arena, and that kind of music has to be hard to compose because I am sure it was like creating the foundations of music anew every time, every piece with a sound world that must of been as new for him as it was for Palestrina to create Palestrina during Palestrina's time.
    Outside of the 3 great composers of the Viennese School (and I know they were a spring board for his own work), he has to be one of the greatest if not THE GREATEST atonal, 12 tonal, serialist, modern or whatever composer after the Second World War. There is Stockhausen of course but many times Stockhausen seems to be so random, while Boulez was so tight and organized - every phrase seems purposeful or to spring from other parts - as Brahms or Beethoven would do but with Ravel's French tone and color.
    It always seems to me, when I hear some new, contemporary composition, that they are somehow unable to keep from being bland - like I have heard this again and again before. Boulez's music never had that problem.

    • @dou40006
      @dou40006 8 лет назад +2

      Boulez was just a terribly uninspired composer, first he never composed any music, but only sonic decorative art, just good to be played as background noise in a modern art museum, nothing more.

    • @Thoraxziod
      @Thoraxziod 8 лет назад +6

      Well anyone can define their own terms to any to any English (or whatever) word they like. This boarders on opinion, regulating what one likes to an established 'word' and excluding what one doesn't like to 'not music'. For example, you claim Boulez does not create 'music.' In this case, what does the word 'music' mean to you. I suppose your definition of 'music' is what you have been used to hearing - maybe: neo-romantic traditional classical music of the 19nth and early 20th century or not. That's fine, but limited - wouldn't you want to expand sometimes?
      Some (or should I say most) people can't even listen classical music itself, besides this avant-garde classical music, because (I don't know) they find it is too boring, "uninspired," calculating....etc. These people (some) would say that is not music - more like a text book. they believe real music is something you can dance to. Classical music is something that goes on in the "background" while you don't need to concentrate on it or the "background" noise in some movie that is just there to presents 'atmosphere' while the real story goes on.
      I am a very liberal minded person (which is not always good), so listening to the wind while I sit on a porch on a rocking chair is music to me. But a better definition would be 'organized sound' (or even noise: think of the Beatles' "Tomorrow Never Knows" sound looping or Frank Zappa's tape loop clusters in his "Shiek Ourbooty" album, or Edgar Varese or whatever).
      With this definition, which I realize is MY definition, Boulez creates music. Not in the same sense that I like to listen to the wind, but the stricter definition of 'organized sound,' and not even in the wider sense of organized 'noise' because Boulez's music is very organized and uses traditional instruments and motifs. Granted because it is not a late Romantic composition, that I myself am used to, I had to listen to his music a couple of times and other music that led up to it (including, ironically, post-Romantic music). Then again, it took me years before I understood Elgar's "Enigma Variations" -- which on first hearing represented for me every thing boring about classical music and which now I am so enraptured when I hear.

    • @BrainiacFingers
      @BrainiacFingers 8 лет назад +4

      Mr Dou40006, you should realise that throughout history people with limited taste and comprehension have made bold, ill-informed comments just like yours. How about the guy from the Chicago Tribune 1909 who said, about Debussy's La Mer " There are no themes...There is no end of harmonic combinations that are so unusual that they sound hideously ugly" Or the guy back in 1868 who said that "Beethoven was deficient in esthetic imagery and lacked the sense of beauty" Then there's the "expert" from The Musical Courier - New York 1904 who said this of Mahler " The drooling and emasculated simplicity of Gustav Mahler!" How about, from The Musical Times London - 1929 " Stravinsky is entirely unable to formulate a musical idea of his own" You see, my friend, you're part of a great tradition of ignorance and incomprehension.

    • @dou40006
      @dou40006 8 лет назад +2

      ho yeah always the same worn out argument : Debussy, Berlioz, Stravinsky were not understood in their time, so it is just the same with Boulez and all the post modern garbage. minus Debussy, Berlioz Stravinsky might have generated some controversy at first but it didn't last , just the time for the human brain to adapt to new from of art, maybe 5 years. But with Boulez after 60 years 99% of musically educated people are still trying to find some substance in it and have given up, so you have to find something else my friend.

    • @MaestroTJS
      @MaestroTJS 7 лет назад

      dou40006 There's also the other argument proponents of this nonsense like to pull out of their hats: that it has influenced pop music (which, of course, in EVERY OTHER ARGUMENT is well beneath them to even consider as music). We hear that most with Stockhausen--"the Beatles cited him as an influence and he's on the cover of Sgt. Pepper!" Whoop dee doo! So The Beatles are a credible source, but if someone were to write classical music in a way stemming out of a more traditional camp, which is 100 times more complicated than The Beatles, their music is shit because it isn't "sound art." Yeah, that makes sense.

  • @Thoraxziod
    @Thoraxziod 9 лет назад +1

    Man, so GOOD; better than the film version.
    It is so interesting watching him conduct. Seeing him and the musicians makes so much difference. The stage setting is pretty interesting as well. Sort of like the off stage trumpets that Mahler had for his 3rd symphony. I read somewhere that this piece is supposed to incorporate computerized sound enhancers. I wonder if this version has that? I do not see them, but the instrumental interludes (like the harp and that clavier/glockenspiel thing) are great parts never-the-less.
    Anyways it is sounds so amazing. To me, not a boring part (as mentioned by dou40006), but it is either super tensile, tense; chaotically noisy like a swirling crowd or mystically minute and precise while still possessing all those multiple voices.

    • @helmut733
      @helmut733 9 лет назад +3

      +Thoraxziod This is the best music. Period.

    • @dou40006
      @dou40006 9 лет назад +3

      For sûre it is not the worse of Boulez, it sounds a bit more harmonic and consonant than its others shitty music, but still it is not very interesting sound for the hears and the brain, the ability of this music to express something is extremely poor and bring us back to the prehistoric time in matter of music.

    • @EL-et4ft
      @EL-et4ft 8 лет назад +7

      +dou40006 Boulez was the best composer of the last century. By leaps and leaps and bounds. You are appalling in your arrogance.

    • @dou40006
      @dou40006 8 лет назад

      +Ed Ebb I can't even imagine what the worse composer of the century has composed then...probably something you would commit suicide after hearing it...seriously, this Boulez just picked the wrong job on his life, he would have made a a good locksmith or shoe repair guy...

    • @ProfessorPille
      @ProfessorPille 7 лет назад +2

      How about *one of the best*? Hyperbole makes for a poor argument.

  • @pelodelperro
    @pelodelperro 7 лет назад +1

    18:57 Exhilarating!

  • @gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819
    @gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819 8 лет назад +5

    I like this music,, no you will not find a melodic line in it s structure. will it replace tonal based music no! There s room for many different types of expressions in music. This is one direction Arvo Part is another etc.

    • @rolandbuck4005
      @rolandbuck4005 8 лет назад +2

      +gregory stuart Arvo Part's beautiful, spiritual music points toward the future of music in the 21st century. Boulez represents the past, the dark age of music that prevailed in the second half of the twentieth century.

    • @Cleekschrey
      @Cleekschrey 8 лет назад +5

      +Roland Buck omg are you joking? what have you been smoking?

    • @ProfessorPille
      @ProfessorPille 7 лет назад

      ::sigh::

    • @gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819
      @gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819 7 лет назад

      love Boulez s drama. once again I liked his invention, not everone s cup of tea oh well!

  • @extratacit3729
    @extratacit3729 6 лет назад

    Where do I get the DVD of this recorded series of Boulez’s tour on Japan?

  • @yvesmaze6078
    @yvesmaze6078 7 лет назад

    Il y a eu ceux qui étaient pour et ceux qui étaient contre. Mais comme Boulez est mort le 5 janvier de l'année 2016 à Baden-Baden , Il est entré au Purgatoire. Quand il en ressortira, ce sera probablement avec la partition de Répons sous le bras. Une grande oeuvre, je crois, ou alors je ne comprends à ce petit-fils de Schoenberg...

  • @jerichooo271
    @jerichooo271 8 лет назад +2

    Ce mec aurait dû faire l'hymne de l'Union Européene

    • @MaestroTJS
      @MaestroTJS 7 лет назад

      Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The guy couldn't create one line of a hummable melody if his life depended on it.

  • @Sortirai
    @Sortirai 7 лет назад

    J avais vu l œuvre à Metz dans les annee 80 .avec c ette installation de haut parleurs

  • @PierreVeniot
    @PierreVeniot 8 лет назад +3

    Like in the Bugs Bunny (Being Leopold) cartoon with the Tenor... up down, right, left. shut up, go, stop...

  • @mohamsaidou7681
    @mohamsaidou7681 6 лет назад

    🌿👽Love and Freedom for all❤️🍃

  • @tonimaestre96
    @tonimaestre96 7 лет назад

    Una persona depresiva, como yo hace un año y pico, podría deleitarse con esa sensación de caos que presemta la onra de Boulez y que simula el mundo yendo en nuestra contra.
    Pero una persona que quiere, simplemente, vivir, y con alegría, (como yo ahora) encuentra esto confuso y chirriante.
    Nada que aplicar a la vida propia; pero, en todo caso, buena para diseñar una historia con un escenario onírico y siniestro

  • @joeguilian7696
    @joeguilian7696 9 лет назад +2

    la musique que j'imagine qu'il y a en enfer

  • @tonimaestre96
    @tonimaestre96 7 лет назад

    I understand hes an experimental composer, so...
    MAKE EXPERIMENTS.
    DO NOT MAKE CONCERTS.

  • @leschatsfontdix6246
    @leschatsfontdix6246 8 лет назад

    :'(

  • @tonimaestre96
    @tonimaestre96 7 лет назад +1

    Lol, he manages the orchestra like a police agent manages traffic

  • @dou40006
    @dou40006 9 лет назад +5

    We keep waiting that something is going to happen, but the waiting is deceptive ...nothing never happen with this music that is stuck in its inability to carry some life or take some shape, it distillates only boredom and vacuity from the first note to the last. This music is useless annoying and a failure, more it is an imposture.

    • @helmut733
      @helmut733 9 лет назад +6

      +dou40006 hahahaha. this is the greatest music that humans have EVER made.
      music for all eternity. boulez is the prince of music. i thank GOD for this gift!

    • @GenericGoogleAccount
      @GenericGoogleAccount 8 лет назад +2

      "This music is useless annoying and a failure, more it is an imposture."
      You do realise that Boulez won a grammy for "Best Classical Contemporary Composition" with this piece, right ? He also won 25 other grammys as a conductor not only for the performance of the music of other composers, but also for the performance of his own works that you hate so much.

    • @dou40006
      @dou40006 8 лет назад +4

      +TheBrawlMaster oh yes, the rewards of the academia, it is what you need to make an opinion for yourself right ? When it comes to art the official academia is ALWAYS wind,,always

    • @rolandbuck4005
      @rolandbuck4005 8 лет назад +1

      +TheBrawlMaster That is because the 20th century modernists, who wanted music to be atonal, serialist, harshly dissonant, and soullessly abstract succeeded in gaining control of the classical music establishment after World War II and established itself as a hegemony that imposed this style and suppressed the works of composers who did not want to compose that way. With them in control of the official institutions, it is not surprising that the awards went to people who adhered to their dogmas. These awards tell us absolutely nothing about the quality or enjoyability of this music. The dislike of the music by concert audiences tells us a lot more. The people who conclude that this is awful garbage are right and the "experts" are wrong.

    • @dou40006
      @dou40006 8 лет назад +2

      +Roland Buck yes exactly, but now that this nasty and mediocre composer (Boulez) is dead, creation in music will start again, it is a bit like the fall of the iron curtain...

  • @rolandbuck4005
    @rolandbuck4005 8 лет назад +4

    The second half of the twentieth century was a dark age in classical music. The music was atonal, serialist, harshly dissonant, and soullessly abstract. For want of a better term, I will call this style "20th Century Modernism." The music is unpleasant and boring, and concert audiences hated and hate it. The really bad part was that after World War II the 20th century modernists established this bad style as the hegemony and made it very difficult for composers who wanted to compose beautiful, consonant music with powerful melodies to be heard. Boulez was one of the main villains who helped impose this hegemony.Fortunately the 20th century is over, and 20th century modernism has become old hat and is on the way out. Younger composers are once again writing music that is consonant, tonal in the broad sense, and with powerful and beautiful melodies. There is every reason to expect that the music of this century will be very different and much better than the music of the dark ages.

    • @dou40006
      @dou40006 8 лет назад +3

      I can't agree more, the death of Boulez will be like the death of Mao that ended the cultural revolution and its disastrous effect on art creation,

    • @EL-et4ft
      @EL-et4ft 8 лет назад +5

      +dou40006 You are so full of shit. Last composer worth a damn, and you fucking idiot didn't deserve to share the planet with him.

    • @EL-et4ft
      @EL-et4ft 8 лет назад +5

      +Roland Buck You, good sir, are way off base.

    • @rolandbuck4005
      @rolandbuck4005 8 лет назад

      +dou40006 Music advances one funeral at a time.

    • @EL-et4ft
      @EL-et4ft 8 лет назад +5

      +Roland Buck Where do you come up with this stuff? It's hysterical.