MBDTF VS TPAB | Free Smoke
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- MBDTF VS TPAB | Free Smoke. For the first episode of our new “Free Smoke” series we pinned Kanye West’s My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy VS Kendrick Lamar’s To Pimp A Butterfly. Between MBDTF and TPAB, what do you think is the better album?
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Timecodes:
0:00 Intro
1:43 Rules
2:37 Artistry
10:58 Production
18:56 Impact
#KanyeWest #KendrickLamar 
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@@yeaahhyeah988 no, gkmc vs logic under pressure
@@Marko-nh3dn logic not in the same league 👎👎
Lute just dropped his album Goldmouf, y’all should review if y’all have time 👀
Y’all should have made 2 votes, 1. Who won the debate, 2. Which album do you feel is better. I feel MBDTF is better but Ant won the debate. So much so that I’m going back to relisten to TPAB now. Wasn’t low end theory a jazz hip hop album BTW?
Kanye got this bro 😆and I love Kendrick
They're barely comparable, MBDTF is like a beautiful painting while TPAB is a beautiful piece of literature.
Spot on
Right
Stolen
@@sads7999 Just reposting it, I don't really remember where I saw this from but it fits
@@tvdurdurs554 mallory brod i think
This might be the greatest verzuz between albums yet.
NWTS vs blueprint 3
Hope ya'll enjoyed it🙏
Watch Mallory bros; MBDTF vs TPAB
@@Marko-nh3dn nwts wipes
@@MultiZachary23 L
To defuse some of the tension at the end each member should have one minute to complement the opposing album/song/topic
Fun idea!
@@NFRPodcast that’s honestly such a good idea
Nah I like when it’s heated. Adding that in between will ruin the energy. Compliments at the very end
@NightGolem L
@NightGolem okay fine we know, you don't need to comment it under every reply
If you want a production masterpiece you go to MBDTF. If you want to be taken on a proper story in an album, you go to TPAB. Depends on what you prefer as a person
What does leroy prefer?
You can hear a shockingly obvious abrupt vocal cut within the first 30 seconds of So Appalled
@@jackperson2236 I read that Swizz Beatz said he hated that vocal cut in the song, but Kanye like it so he kept it in. The little imperfections like that add character to the album I believe.
Tpab production is better though, in all aspects of it
@@bradleyknoll6420 for real
I was thinking “damn I wish I could moderate.” Then you said “Nick is moderating” and I was like “oh shit!!” 😂
The irony😂
Taking the greatness of both TPAB and MBDTF into consideration, imagine how good a Kendrick and Kanye collab album would be.
Ya bro like NMPILA was already super good imagine a fucking album
Bro Ye production and Kendrick lyricism. Would be the greatest album ever
@@buggyfr8447 I think the universe would explode if they made a whole album of NMPILA level artistry.
Personally I think Collab albums are overrated, Watch the throne was great but Jay Z and Kanye have both made several individual albums that were better than watch the throne
@@Kyle-fq4kq The first 2 years that watch the throne came out, it was the main buzz, everyone thought it was some GOAT shit. The only issue is the album was "of the moment." Amazing at the time it was released, but doesn't age well like each of their solo records are more replayable. They just made an album in the theme and style of everything hip at the time, and did it better. Also a bunch of singles like Mercy, Clique and so on were the buzz around that same time.
This is gonna be a classic a banger of a series
Daniel knows what's up😤
@NightGolem im the tyler king
I love these!
@@NFRPodcasthe turned out to be right🥹🐐🐐🐐
this is the most heated I've ever seen both Luca and Anthony be over music both had valid point. Just shows you the Level of Kanye and Kendrick
Hope you enjoyed the video🙏 who won the debate?
@@NFRPodcast anthony
Lou
Mbdtf gives me goosebumps when i think about the how the album was made, the setting, the release and the ultimate redemption of kanye west that the music provided. None the less 2 great albums.
Great video guys!!
The greatest comeback of any music career ever
@@scifinerd17 Some might Mariah Carey's The Emancipation of Mimi but it's up for debate I would say in recent memory
“How is it not even comparable” lmfao these guys started so quick
Tpab is insane. The creativity to be able to put that whole album together and make it all work is otherworldly. Mbdtf is great but my mind is boggled by the creative headspace kendrick must've been in when making TPAB.
They are both immensely creative in their own way, they are just so creatively different that it’s difficult to compare
Kendrick fan spotted.
I don't feel that way at all. The album and its story to me is completely shock and awe. After the first one or two times listening to it, you've gotten most of the impact from it, and from there, it diminishes with every listen. The only two songs I go back to are the very end of Mortal Man and How Much A Dollar Costs, which is one of the greatest songs ever made. Even the 'hits' on the album are bland to the rest of his hits. I'm not one to appeal to popularity, but in this case I think it is warranted. The streaming numbers don't lie TPAB is one of his least listened to albums, at least in terms of total plays. Despite it being claimed by so many to be the greatest album of all time and so hyped, it's very listeners appear to not enjoy it as frequently as other projects of his. Popularity and retention do not necessarily imply better art, but when it is at this level, one has to start questioning whether the ideas were that good from the get go. The best comparison I can make is a jump scare in a horror movie, yeah it gets your heart racing and scares you, but it isn't good horror. After that one moment, the effect is essentially gone and the initial feeling is almost impossible to replicate. Really gonna piss off some people with this next part, but I also feel like a lot of the songs are extremely overrated. Especially U, which I think is one of the worst songs he has ever made. It is so tacky and in-genuine to me that it almost seems like it is a parody.
@@mrmxyzptlk8906 Sherlock Holmes spotted
@@macicoinc9363 While it’s not his most hype album it’s got so many thematic layers and an incredible soundscape. It’s crazy diving into the deeper meaning of every song. But I respect your nonsensical ramblings ❤️
Twisted Fantasy was a piece of art but man.. TPAB is a one in a lifetime record. EASILY the pinnacle of what a rap album can be imo
You nailed it.
this comment gave me chills
Fantasy is what the peak of a rap album can be. Not TPAB, TPAB was a regression if anything.
@@mrmxyzptlk8906 bait
@@simanolastname2399 truth.
Love both albums but I find myself going back to MBDTF a LOT more often. Lu has a great point about it being a more accessible album.
just cuz u visit it more often doesnt make it objectively the better piece of art, cuz thats wut music is, its art, and artistically TPAB makes MBDTF look basic, and im saying that fully aware MBDTF may just slot in as a top 15-20 hip hop project of all time, and is kanyes best written work but TPAB is the greatest hip hop album of all time, and there is no question, Illmatic is a good contender, but nothing comes even remotely close other than that.
@@aldrianspalding4157delusional. It’s not to 2O. It’s the greatest rap album ever.
MBDTF is the greatest artistic achievement in rap. It’s TPAB that looks like an ant in quality and artistry in comparison.
MBDTF fuses much more genres and is extraordinarily grandiose to a ridiculous extent. It’s the much better album in every aspect. All Kendrick’s album has is more focused on an overarching narrative. And that narrative is as basic as can be. Kanye creates something truly unique and brilliant in the topics he discusses.
That's the problem with writing tho. Ofc when something is deep and complex, while also being coherent and moody it's going to be harder to listen to. But that doesn't really say anything no? Just because something is moody doesn't disprove albums, we are talking about ALBUMS as ONE PIECE, not their songs individually. I personally find TPAB more replayable literally because it's moody, that makes sense to me, you are supposed to feel it in your soul, not just get hyped up in yo ears.
Similar to deep and complex tv shows, other shows might generate more hype consistently, but something that's actually vastly emotional, moody and in the end all makes sense will make you feel more grateful for watching it instead of the other one.
I agree with the fact that MBDTF is more versatile and has a song for every mood…
No doubt it is the album of the 2010s decade 🙌🏻
Much love to you Sheikh
So does tpab lol
@@shoreZ No it doesn't
@@shoreZ nope
MBDTF also has Blame Game and Hell of a Life, both worse than any song on TPAB. Hell worse than any song on GKMC and DAMN. too
This was so sick, well done both of yous. Both are brilliant at putting across their views. I do prefer MBDTF but TPAB is also amazing . Both of yous are 🐐
Thank you for the love!
Love the passion. Hope y’all get a beer after lol
True that 👌🏻
Thanks for looking out😂
These two albums are arguably in the top 2 of the 2010s. Personally, TPAB takes it for me.
Objectively tpab takes it lol but appreciate the humbleness
@@thaidixon3852 there is no objectivity in music lol, i think mbdtf is better in every way but im not saying its objective lol
They are the top 2
Great take! What are your top 5 songs from both albums combined?👀
@@NFRPodcast
1.Runaway
2.U
3.Devil in a new dress
4.How Much a dollar cost
5.Alright
This would be so hard to pick, its like picking either a piece of literature or painting. Thats the words i can think to describe them.
perfect way to put it.
Great way of describing them!
On God. Deep down the writing is more beautiful but from a standpoint anyone can look at a painting and say it's beautiful. It's different types
TBAP bro. I still remember how floored I was when this Kdot wove in the poetry segments through the album, to reveal it as a conversation with Tupac on racism and wealth inequality at the end. Pure genius. It tied the album together in a way I didn’t expect at all.
Window dressing for a shallow message is “genius” to you? 😂
how tf is it a shallow message?@@mrmxyzptlk8906
@@mrmxyzptlk8906I like kendricks music a lot but I don't get the TPAB praise at all. Especially the "message" bullshit, the albums themes and message is very surface level. Not that that's a bad thing, but kendrick fans say anything to make kendrick look better.
Still boring as fuck
@@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070what would be a deeper message to you, because the album has so much more than just that one theme as well
MBDTF got me through so much man. It’s literally impossible for me to even say TPAB comes remotely close to it. However they’re both great in their own way. Top 5 most iconic hip hop records ever, and they’ll probably stay there for a long time.
Indeed they are. Both are iconic classics
i listened and loved tpab before mbdtf and i think tpab can’t touch it
@@ohnojojo19 cap
@@johanliebert7267 stg
@@ohnojojo19I feel the opposite, but to each their own 🤝
TPAB needs time still to see if its impact is as huge as MBDTF. But I don't think that it's going to win either way, Kanye's discography has proved to be the most impactful ever so far and his magnus opus definitely proves so.
@@equzia7524 rolling stone named MBDTF the 17th greatest album of all time in 2020. But TPAB is at 19! So they’re both great and recognized. But something to keep in mind, is that we wouldn’t have TPAB without MBDTF. And we wouldn’t have all of the great risk taking albums in mainstream hip-hop or the mainstream in general without MBDTF.
Edit:
Also if you look at mainstream hip-hop prior to MBDTF, the most significant albums generally focused on crisp production and phenomenal lyricism. Then post MBDTF, hip hop albums tend to focus less on an MC’s skills and more on elevating the genre to new heights, with more experimentation, emphasis on overall artistry rather than strictly skills on the mic. For example, an Eminem or a Jay Z are top notch MCs, where a Travis Scott or a Tyler the Creator are going to have more hands on approach to the craft of songwriting in hip-hop form. And that has to be credited to MBDTF. TPAB is a byproduct of MBDTF, yet influential in its own ways.
@@equzia7524 as a diehard Kanye fan, I think TPAB might be more impactful but the song runaway aged as one of Kanye’s best song or one of the best songs of all time and that was in mbdtf as long with songs that were probably as good as that one. So that’s one way mbdtf was impactful. But Kanye’s nickname should be “impactful”.
Umm I’m fairly sure tpab was an instant classic for a reason
i loved this. everything about it. i personally cannot choose one over the other but the argument yall both put up was great and so intense to watch. also you both j talk so smoothly, i love it.. all around so great.
Fuckin Awesome series boys! 🔥 The tension in the room legit had me on the ground 🤣 You each bring out very valid points and I love the transparency that comes to light during these debates! Awesome work to you three and hoping to see way more of these! 🔥
The production on these 2 albums are incredible just like on this video you guys did a great work with the editing😄👍
This is y’all’s best video 🔥🔥 need more of the debates expeditiously
Aye that's a nice compliment🔥 which debate do you wanna see next?
TPAB is 100X better after the second listen. I thought it was weird and not that great until it got to Mortal Man. I wish I could get that feeling all over again when I first heard the ending of Mortal Man and it transitions back into Wesley’s Theory. It’s almost like that ending sets up the entire album even though it’s at the very end.
L
Fs. Hearing how much a dollar cost and blacker the berry for the first time is crazy, and hearing the way he ties all the songs together on mortal man is even crazier.
@@abelpaez2802 you kinda people always leave an L and can’t bring up a single point as to why an artist or album is better than another
could even be a symbol for how the conditions kendrick speaks on in the album are cyclical and always start again
@@levisperling138 100x, nah, runaway alone washes
You guys are both well versed in your arguments... definitely my favorite debate video I've ever seeb
You guys are such legends. Always indicating the chanel and actually make relatable content. There are not many channels where I watch every video and remain engaged from the beginning to end. Thanks guys, please keep it up
Thank you for the love Max!
I know what two albums im listening to tonight at work. but MBDTF takes it 🔥
this might be my favorite video you guys have ever posted, 2 great albums, 2 great arguments
Thank you for the love!
I love this channel man. keep up the good work, you guys have introduced me some dope hip hop projects and artist. I got into hip hop because of how much i loved MBDTF
bros this was incredible. we need more of these. this is good content. respect to both of you.
Their both top 2 hip hop albums of all time for me and amazing in completely different ways, Kanye's artistry is based on his situation and unravels what happens when you reach the highest point, and Kendrick's artistry is based on the conflicts within his inner thoughts and being black in America. Kanye's production in MBDTF is absolutely amazing, with the using the voice distorter to muffle his voice in tracks like Gorgeous and Runaway was genius, and having one of the strongest 9 track lineups I've ever seen. Kendrick's voice changing to present a different prospective was also genius, the funk, soul, and jazz combo in the album complimented the storytelling of the album so well and there will never be an album as unique as this for a really long time. Both albums impacting so so many things, MBDTF impacted hip hop as a whole and cemented its place as an all time great album, TPAB impacted society in America and cemented its place as an all time great album. This is only a small list of what each album has done and it all comes down to what you value in music, if you value lyricism, sequencing, and storytelling over grand production, you probably will like TPAB more, and if you like the grand production with the more digestible rapping and top tier features then you'll probably like MBDTF more.
Yall got me hyped up with the back & forths that went down during this debate! On the edge of my seat the whole way through. I'll re-watch the video then vote!
"All Eyez On Me" vs. "Ready to Die" for the next debate?
@@GrandEnzo That makes alot more sense. I really hope they do this idea for the next episode!
Thank you for the love Sivade we appreciate it🙏 a Biggie VS Tupac debate is needed for this series!
I’d say Life After Death would be better for All Eyez On Me. 1. Because of the double album like the other guy said. And 2. I just think Ready To Die is quite a lot better, both classics but to me there’s a gap in quality
@@Rob_M_8 You're mad
What gap in quality
AEOM > LAD
This series is soooooooo fucking dope!!! You guys hit the jackpot with this idea!! I love the debating!
Guys I've been following you since March because I'm a passionate music and hip hop lover in general. I'm happy to see how you shape this channel with all types of themes to entertain a viewer. Big kudos from Lithuania lad's
Both masterpieces goin at it 🔥
Love the content you guys the only ones that have good content and talk about great rap albums and songs I know imma love this series already love from Maryland USA
This video flew by! Great job guys as always
I can’t wait for this series 😂y’all have some great arguments I can’t tell which album is actually better
Glad you like the series Adrian🙏
bro it's fun seeing you guys actually argue with each other cause most of the time you guys are on the same side. I rate this series heavy lmao. do off-season vs call me if you get lost next lol
btw to pimp a butterfly all the way..
This is exactly how I pictured this conversation going. Both are so good❤️
Vicky, I would love to exchange numbers with you.
Damn I don't even know which album I like more. These are both 10/10 projects so its hard to decide which perfect project is more perfect. Love this series, amazing job. Would love to see you guys debate more classic albums.
Foe me tpab is a 10 and dark fantasy is like an 8.5 to a 9 I prefer ksg as a project tbh and think its a 10 ( and no not just cuz fantano)
@@thoonalia whilst twisted fantasy is a 10 I agree that it’s not his best 10, call me weird or whatever but I think yeezus is a 10 and Kanye’s best album to date.
This is a great idea …. I’m glad to see you guys try to innovate the channel .. we appreciate it
Thank you for recognizing that Presley🙏 we're always trying to think of new ways to keep ya'll entertained!
Both these albums are so incredible 🔥🔥 great episode
Appreciate the love!
this is gonna be the best series on youtube. I loved every second of this video!
Most underrated hip hop Channel keep up the good work this series is gonna be insane
awesome, we’re gonna need more of these 🔥
Much love Jose🙏 your suggestions are always welcome!
how can anyone think MBDTF is better than TPAB 😭😭😭
I watch a lot of music reviewing / music topic channels and you guys is definitely up there. Su much fun and different content. This free smoke segment is fire
Thank you so much for always giving amazing content♥️
Thank you for watching Trystan🙏
We need more of these! 😊 Here are some recommendations:
-The College Dropout (Kanye) vs The Blueprint (Jay Z)
-NWTS/Take Care (Drake) vs GKMC (Kendrick)
-Rodeo/Astroworld (Travis Scott) vs Flower Boy (Tyler the Creator)
-Madvillainy (MF Doom) vs Illmatic (Nas)
-Graduation (Kanye) vs Tha Carter 3 (Lil Wayne)
Check out the Mallory Bros they have some of the recommendations you made, they’re a great channel
These are some very interesting debate ideas! I hope they do at least 1 of these!
@@iziahgimlin3912 yuppp they’re my favourite music reaction channel! 😊 NFR my favourite music review channel! 👍
@@iziahgimlin3912 fact
Travis Scott - Rodeo vs A$AP Rocky -ALLA
I gotta give it to TPAB. While i still think MBDTF is a masterpiece, I literally heard half the damn album in a different form weeks b4 it came out because of GOOD Fridays. TPAB hit me all at once and was an experience, while MBDTF was a slow burn that got refined to perfection.
This video is amazing, more of this series ASAP
Thank you for the love! Which battle do you want to see next🤔
Loved this, you always put the content first but love seeing you both getting into a heated debate
Appreciate the love Liam🙏
I love the emotion behind your guys arguments
Thanks Andrew we appreciate the love! Who won?👀
@@NFRPodcast hmm imo mbdtf has the edge but in terms of these arguments ant won
@@nish8399 yeah Luca’s arguments are always horrible
Mannnnn, this was great. Greatest content on RUclips right now.
Thanks Lane, awesome interacting with you on nearly every video🙏
BEST NFR VIDEO!! loved the concept, omg I was biting nails and whipping on my chair holy shit this was tense
Great content guys. Loved this vidoes. This yt channel is criminally underrated.
Thank you for the love
@NightGolem Ant won
This is already a classic🙌🏾❤
Thanks Roan! Who won👀
Please don't let the money & fam break you guys apart. Dont let anything get between you guys. You guys can go so far man
Love this need more great content like this keep up the great work guys
Thanks Mason we appreciate you🔥
Guys, watching you getting so passionate about this, tears me apart in my own head. Those are my two favorite albums and artists and choosing between them is impossible. Does make for great content though!
I LOVED THIS! Dudes are tackling the real issues 👏👏 and the passion is great as well. MBDTF for me, but TPAB is amongst the tippy top.
Bruh y’all were going in!! I love this series!👌🏽
“Name one that talks about fame better”
“Ready to die, that’s your greatest album of all time, Luca don’t cap on this podcast “
😳😳😂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love this. I love this channel and thank you
Hilarious video guys. Can't wait for whenever the next one in the series comes out
What an episode. Really awesome guys.
It can get quite to hear your points when you rebute. It’s quite difficult to hear your points when people are cutting each other off. And it can get pretty personal.
Could I suggest this structure:
Project 1: 2 Minutes
Project 2: 2 Minutes.
Project 1: Rebuttal 1
This is where the speaker for project one rebutes the other other speakers points he made on Artistry, Production or Impact.
Project 2: Surr rebuttals.
This is where the speaker for project 2 rebutes the points made by the speaker by project 1 in there rebuttal.
This could really make it easier to hear each of your points and for the listeners to digest.
Thank you for the feedback🙏
I love MBDTF a lot and I loved the Good Friday songs that lead up to it. Especially with the BET Cypher that had everyone dressed up in suits with the Runaway film on top of that. But I connect with TPAB a lot more because at that time I was dealing with heavy depression being in the environment where it was nothing but my people killing each other. And tbh I can’t say this about any other album in hip hop but TBAP saved my life. It helped me from committing suicide fr. The transition from “U” to “Alright” alone is fucking insane. Mortal Man bro? “If I respect you we unify and stop the enemy from killing us” I still get chills from listening how that album ended.
This debate could go on forever, love these kinds of videos
Which debate do you want to see next?
Amazing vid boys
This was actually intense AF!
I was dying when yall started to cuss at each other Lmaooo
The structure of “Butterfly” gives it the edge over “Dark Fantasy” for me. Also, Kanye sometimes adds songs that would otherwise be best left out and uses questionable features. With “Butterfly”, there were NO flaws.
🦋 FOR THE WIN!
Blame Game and Hell of a Life should automatically make it worse than TPAB anyway lol, those are weird listens
@@Flamerunner451 these two obliterate momma, you aint gonna lie and complexion. you a clown
that being said tpab > mbdtf, just barely
@@Flamerunner451 it’s so obvious you don’t understand the album as a whole if you think those songs don’t match it
@@micahdibiaso9362 that doesn’t make the songs sound good tho. Like they’re not bad but they’re not even close to the level that the rest of the album is on
My beautiful dark twisted fantasy is pure art 🎨 sonically , visually and artistically ( the dude made a whole movie ) , from a huge Kendrick fan. I respect both artists
I’m so excited I love this new concept
Damn, things got heated in here more of these episodes please, BIG UPS 👍
I have these types of debates w/ 1 of my friends all the time & they get just as intense lol. Great debate, guys. Points were made. I have to say though that TPAB is the better album, in my opinion, because of it’s sequencing, performance by Kendrick, subject matter & impact. MBDTF is an amazing album but it’s honestly never been my favorite Kanye album. TPAB might be the greatest rap album ever, to me.
Mbdtf is like looking at a beautiful painting and TPAB is like reading a beautiful poem
I like this outlook, I'm assuming you prefer TPAB?
@@NFRPodcast I know I got the k dot pp but I’m mbdtf all day
I love these series. Pls make more of these.
This def one of my fav NFR vids, you guys killed this.👏
Thanks Cooper🤝 what should the next free smoke debate be?
Love the passion for the art from these guys. If either of you see this, there is a podcast called Dissect which breaks down the meaning behind hip hop albums song by song and they have a full season dedicated to each of these albums. Highly recommend checking it out!
Damn this was the first video i watched off your channel shit is awesome dawg kept me hooked continuously keep up
Dam this was a great video to be introduced to this channel. Felt like Red Hoodie fell into playing Anthony's game during the rebuttals, there is no way you can deny the societal impact TPAB had. Give him that point, but also bring up how TPAB brought a sub genre to a surface, while MBDTF influenced the whole 2010's. Brought forth the sounds for Yeezus, TScott, influenced The weeknd and 100% brought back the idea of art and concept albums to rap. I was screaming at both of yall at the end though cause both albums definitely top 5.
MBDTF for me on this one, but I absolutely love the tension and the arguments in the video
My vote is for Kanye West “My Dark twisted fantasy” . But the arguments for “To pimp a butterfly”🦋 are strong. Kanye!!!
Hey Carlo what gives MBDTF the edge?
@@NFRPodcast Personally the versatility and replay value on MBDTF is far better than TPAB, and replay value is the most important factor of an album. TPAB is a rollercoaster of an experience and it is majorly culturally impactful. The replay value isn’t that good though. It’s seriously Kendrick’s least replayable album. MBDTF is a ridiculously theatrical journey with potentially the best replay value of the decade and is far more influential than TPAB was. TPAB is the most impactful album of the 2010’s. However MBDTF, Blonde and Atrocity Exhibition are more replayable and versatile albums.
Also wanna say that I’m a huge fan of the channel and the work y’all do!
You are the best guys❣️❣️Enjoyed the argument
Thank you for the love!
I honestly thought they where gonna throw hands at one point.
Stay tuned for the next free smoke episode... things might escalate!
Fantastic takes on both sides. Agree with both. MBDTF more impactful musically. TPAB more impactful socially.
Love this type of video. You guys should do Take Care or NWTS vs GKMC
Gkmc wipes both
@@Matthew-dw2ju not nwts but it beats take care by a very small margin
I can agree with this.
Thank you for the love! You think Drake has an album on GKMC level?🥶
@@NFRPodcast I personally think TC or NWTS can compete 😬
Oh shit its here. been hyped since you guys announced it on the livestream
Most heated debate/discussion on two albums I've ever seen with actual facts stated and not just purely relying on subjectivity, it was quite close but I feel like I'm giving the edge to Ant as his arguments in favour of TPAB are just on a whole other level. Loved this debate so much!
This is the most heated respectful debate ever
Anthony is 100% right here. I love both albums but To Pimp A Butterfly is on ANOTHER LEVEL.
Yea no…
@@mrmxyzptlk8906 MBDTF isn't even close
@@Pumpkinking64 TPAB is like an ant compared to MBDTF. Kendrick is irrelevant
@@mrmxyzptlk8906 ratio + Bat-Mite better + Kung Fu Kenny owns you
@@Pumpkinking64 Lift Yourself> Kendrick and you
i fucking love this. PLEASE DO MORE OF THESE
hey guys, awesome idea. the mallory bros did this in a more casual approach but it's awesome seeing this done in the way presented in this video. personally, i have both tpab and mbdtf in my top 10 hh albums and the level both ye and kendrick were on is outstanding. as for the video itself, i thought it would be dope if the times were extended a tiny bit for the topics and rebuttals alike, as well as there being an indicator that you're close to running out of time. it's in its early stages for sure and i can't wait to see where it goes from here, great work guys!
Thank you for the feedback, it truly means a lot to us Alex🙏 which album do you prefer?
Anthony clearly won in every argument lu was just talking over him the whole time and being ignorant. Tpab easily is the bigger moment in hip-hop history AND the better album
MBDTF is a one of a kind epic. The lore behind the making of it. Ye's redemption arc. Ye has said that MBDTF is not boundary pushing as Yeezus or 808's and that it was a project to pacify the fans, critics and to reaffirm his standing and his legacy. To architect a project like that, being fully aware of all the impact it would have and making choices according to that, Is a level of self awareness that is, for a lack of a better word, undoubtedly Genius.
A song like Runaway fully showcases those ideas. His agenda to push the boundary, his eclectic taste, his unapologetic awareness of his ego, and how the media and people perceive him to be. And how often that can get his ideas lost in translation(the outro).
We can all agree that we have trouble understanding ourselves and our place in the universe. Individuality is hard to realise. MBDTF is Kanye West at his most self aware. Simply him opening his eyes and looking around fully aware that he is Kanye West and people's idea of him as Kanye West.
i loved this, keeep it up🙌🏼
We will!
Been waiting for this 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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so appalled is my favorite rap song of all time, i think taking single songs from mbdtf, it has the edge, but as a full project there is nothing like tpab. also if you combine jazz and funk and live music with kendrick's storytelling and message you have won me over