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Your budget is about four times what a middle-class local would spend. Your spotless serviced apartment in a resort-like property is way out of reach of most Vietnamese. Even factoring in the evil reality of “foreigner prices” (a foreigner in Vietnam will always pay more for everything), you should be able to get a decent, furnished air-con apartment that maybe looks a little lived-in for $200. Also, no one in Vietnam who wants to live on a budget should ever set foot in a Western-style supermarket. Everything can be had cheaper in neighbourhood markets and shops. You can also eat in locally-oriented restaurants for $2 to $6 per person per meal. There is a lot more available than noodles and banh mi at one end or pricey Western restaurants at the other. Anyone thinking of living there for a year or more might also want to consider buying a used motorbike for $500 or $600 rather than renting. Finally, since you aren’t working apparently and are out being active everyday, it seems that gyms and protein powders are something most people could do without. But at least you are spending your money on that and not on masses of beers like so many expats! I also agree with you 100% about Vietnamese coffee: it’s a daily essential. Fresh juices and smoothies are available everywhere too - super cheap. In short, I could live in Vietnam, with a SO, for closer to $800 per month (and have done so). You are definitely living it up.
We 100% know we paid more to live this way, but it's the way we wanted to and other expats likely would want. We only ever shopped at the local markets, intimidating to begin with, but great in the long run and an awesome cultural experience. We probably should have bought a bike and resold it, if we stayed on a longer visa we probably would have. So yeah, most people could very easily live on a lot lower than $1200, completely agree! All comes down to the lifestyle you want. As for the Coffee - we bought about 1kg to travel with haha
Your brief synopsis was very enlightening do you have any more info, been looking at Thailand but Vietnam looks so clean and unassuming my SS and what I might make as an expat might make living a lil tough in Chiang Mai but I'm thinking in that realm.
With only $600 per month, a person can live a *very good life* in Vietnam! Count me in. I am paying $1500 per month for a shoebox apartment in the States. I am packing for Vietnam.
Great video guys! I have been living in Chiang Mai for nearly 5 years and I am almost ready to move on. I visited Hoi An last year and fell in love with the place. Now seriously considering moving there. This video helped a lot. Cheers ✌
No worries. Heads up though (can't recall if we stressed it in this one) - Hoi An is haaard to live in. There was no supermarket there, maybe is now, so you had to do local markets, the odd small shop etc aka there is no Maya Mall / Rimping to just get everything perfectly arranged. It's a bit of a shit show. Amazing place though.
Hoi An is a great place to visit but not an ideal place to live in. The weather is so bad in the winter with endless rains and awful floods. The city government doesn’t encourage massive construction which may damage the heritage. You don’t want to see Walmart or McDonalds next to the Buckingham Palace right? I honestly recommend Da Nang which is not far from Hoi An and offers everything you need. Please understand that in Asia things can be different from Australia or New Zealand where you can easily find a McDonald’s store next to a parliament building or throw Her Majesty’s image to the ground and burn it.
Awesome video guys. I have lived in both places as well (Da Nang instead Hoi An) and didn't realize the costs were so similar. I have always thought it was cheaper to live in Vietnam than Thailand. Thanks for the breakdown!
No worries, Will. Chiang Mai is definitely cheaper on the food front, but if you're willing to eat Banh Mi/Mi Quang/Cau Lao/Pho every day you'd probably be cheaper in Vietnam. Thanks!
Can I just say I don't get as excited watching other travel videos anymore as much as I watch your videos. It's so incredibly well put together and your budget breakdowns are very informative. You have both inspired my boyfriend and I to travel to different cities and live like locals and it has been an incredible experience. Next stop Vietnam here we come!! Thank you for sharing!! ❤❤❤
This is probably one of the most informative and thorough breakdowns I've seen about expat living in Asia. Not only did I subscribe but I'm pretty much about to watch more of your videos.
Great overview and summation of your expenses guys. I'm jazzed and encouraged. After living in Mexico, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Cambodia and Thailand, I think Vietnam most likely has the MOST to offer. By that, I mean the highest quality of goods, services and infrastructure than anywhere I've been to date for the cost. Your total for 2 people is wonderful for what you get and how you live. Again... well done!
Axl, I can only speak about those other 5 countries I have lived in but since Dane has given their exact expenses for 2 people in this video, it LOOKS like Vietnam is cheaper overall than the others. I will have to go to Vietnam and see for myself, so until then I can only wonder.
We personally think Chiang Mai is the best and cheapest place to live. You can find apartments a lot cheaper than what we pay, then each of the other categories are cheaper and your overall costs will be less, more luxury, more choice, more western.
I've been to Chiang Mai once. I liked it. I've heard there is a certain time of year when the farmers burn their rice paddies and the smoke for miles around is horrendously bad. Is that true? The only other problem I have with Thailand is their visa regulations. VERY strict about leaving the country every 2 or 3 months and if one gets a long-term retirement visa you still have to report in to immigration every 90 days for the rest of your life. Horrible visa rules, no??
I pay around $85/month for an apartment here in Viet Nam, utilities included. He's right, it's darn cheap.. though if you still want to live with your western amenities (A/C, Swimming pool, heated water), it will cost a bit more.
Where in Vietnam are you paying around $85 to live in an apartment. I'm looking at apartments in Hanoi and none of them are remotely as cheap as $85. The cheapest one I've found in Hanoi is about $200. What websites, fb group pages and/or other relevant resources would you recommend that I look for to rent out a room or an apartment? Thanks
Awesome detailed info man! I’m currently in the process of planning my own budget too for a big move back to Saigon in the next few months, which is probably going to be a bit more expensive compared to Hoi An but there are some of your categories that I don’t spend on so hopefully it will come out to be around $1000-1200. If you guys ever think of going to Saigon again in 2018, I would love to meet up with!
Exciting times ahead! From the travel we've done there and the comments we've had online about this vid it sounds like our costs are pretty in line with Saigon and Hanoi - so you'd be looking about the same. Per person is a lot cheaper though and if you love to just eat local food you could probably lower that cost more than we did!
I came across your channel while researching our upcoming trip to Hoi An in January and I'm hooked! I've been binge watching all day. You two do a terrific job of filming and editing. I like that you give the names of places and restaurants you try. I stop the vid and pin them on google maps. Your positive attitudes and charming personalities come across very well. Keep vlogging please!
Hey James - from both of us, thank you! These are the type of comments that make us absolutely stoked and inspired to keep creating. We look for content like ours when we're about to travel somewhere as well, so if you found us and binged that means even more.
You guys put together quality content that is so helpful and it's obvious that you spend a lot of time on it. Thank you for your hard work, my family and i appreciate it!
Very nice. I liked that gym a lot better. No golf balls used! Thanks for sharing all the details. It seems some things are more and some less in either country and your average was very close in both Thailand and Vietnam.
Definitely a lot better, we were shocked. Yeah very much pro's and con's for each place, good to visit both and you figure out pretty quick which bits are important to you.
New here. Fantastic video. Thank you for taking the time to make it. This is the best cost of living video I've seen. You got straight to the point and everything was super clear. Thanks again.
Hey Mark - thanks for the comment, we really like getting good feedback like this! Seen you left another comment about an error though, good spotting! I'll respond to that now.
Great video, very helpful! The gym and protein powder are actually pretty important to me so I'm glad you included those. Great insights about the food and activities too. Thanks for the info!
Thanks for letting us know man, we get a lot of shit for drinking 'protein gunk' and spending so much on the gym so its good to know others give a shit about their health as well haha. Glad it was helpful.
Really? Spending a few hours a week building and maintaining strong muscles keeps us young, healthy, and able to travel our whole life! It should be a top priority for someone who travels. Those people are probably just projecting their own insecurities. Protein shakes are awesome. 💪
You'd be surprised at the amount of people that have a beef with the subject, probably as they sit on their couch feeling like shit. Haha protein shakes are awesome 💪
Wow guys thanks for the great info. Just found your videos. Wife and I are looking at doing the same sort of thing in Hoi An next year so your videos have been super helpful. Cheers!
Happy to help, Rory. You guys will have an awesome time. If you're curious to know more about all of our costs and what goes into doing the travel thing full time we're pulling it all together in one resource, not a hard sell, but there genuinely is a sh*t load of information in there www.danegerandstacey.com
out of curiosity what do you guys use to stabilise your camera while on the bike or walking around town? some sort of handheld gimble or similar? would love to get shots of a similar quality when we are holidaying.
Hoi an is great! Good cost analysis video! Seen a lot of them.. Well paced and layed out.. Yes!! Going out to eat in hoi an is great but expensive I think.....
If the costs were similar, I personally think Chiang Mai was overpriced because living in a well known UNESCO World Heritage Site should be costlier. However in reality, living in the UNESCO World Heritage Site Hoi An Vietnam is even cheaper than living in Chiang Mai Thailand, which is NOT a UNESCO World Heritage Site. SURPRISINGLY!
Very useful information and great quality of production! It's also super nice to hear a kiwi accent. I'm making the move to Thailand in a month but I love Vietnam also.
Hi Daneger and Stacy,thanks for your Honest,informative and professional video.I have commented on some of your previous videos,since then I have been to Chiang Mai,loved it and you were spot on.Thanks again.
Great video . Good straight foreward info. Are you both from New Zealand. I am too. Live in Thailand. And I do love Vietnam and the people. Would love to go back.
Hi guy's. Thanks for the breadown. I think thats reasonable for two people and to have all the fun you have. If its one person the eating cost should come down. I love that aparment on the river its awesome. Thanks
Terrific vid Dan and Stace. Packed with great and very useful info. My wife and I head to Hoi An for three months in May next year and was keen to know what hotel/villa you stayed at. I think the pool is a big plus.It was also good to see the comparisons with Chang Mai, as we intend to head their following our stay in VN.Thanks and happy travels. Steve
Thanks Steve, you guys will have a great time. We stayed at Riverside Garden Villas, best to get in touch with the local property agent for the area called Nha Toi real estate, also get into the Hoi An Expats Facebook group to keep an eye on some prices from more local offerings with no agent.
I love the style of your video, super nice job dude! :) Just subscribed. Living in Phuket now so pretty expensive but we also like to live like locals so can still live on about 1000USD for a family of 3. Not bad :)
Thats definitely still decent. Check our Chiang Mai cost of living as well, probably our first one if you want to stay a little cheaper, but there is some great deals there as well
Very good and detailed comparison vid. Both places are in my plans to visit and I finally bought my ticket from Hawaii to Chiang Mai, flying end of May. I'll probably be there for 6 months before checking out VN. If I run into you guys sometime I'll have to buy you a couple of beers ;)
Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it. Your gonna love Chiang Mai and Vietnam, both amazing places! Not sure if you've seen it yet, but we've created a newer (and better) cost of living video for Thailand/Cm here: ruclips.net/video/z6JWjFljmZw/видео.html
Daneger and Stacey I'll check it out for sure. I subscribed to your channel after watching several vids. The content is really well done and much better than many others. Keep up the good work!
Hello Daneger and Stacey! I am looking to come to Vietnam soon early December. I am curious what you guys do for a living (maybe I should watch more videos haha). Anyways I just finished my iOS Coding Bootcamp and looking to do some freelance/contract work and work remotely to be with my girlfriend in Vietnam. I was wondering if you guys are doing something similar because some of your video title talks about being a Nomad. If you are doing some kind of digital work, I would definitely like to know more! Anyways thanks for these videos, they are very entertaining to watch. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the nice comment! Yeah we're mostly remote and freelance, so you're on the right path there. Not tryna give you a hard sell or anything but the resource book we're working on will honestly be everything you need to know in one place - we genuinely hope it helps you (and others) get to that goal and book the ticket!
Sounds about right for the cost of a holiday, those daily costs of transport and living in particular come down a lot when you settle in! Thanks for the comment.
This is the first video I've watched from you and I enjoyed it! Great job! Can you do a video on how to search for a furnished apartment in Vietnam and get set up there?
We stayed for a month in Hoi An a couple of years ago and really enjoyed it. This is an excellent comparison of the cost of living between Thailand and Vietnam. Thailand has a better infrastructure. It's safer, the police force is better. Vietnam is more corrupt. Most people park their motorbikes in the house because they're stolen if not. I think food is better in LOS, although it's close. We also didn't like the number of rats we saw at night. Phuket, where I live is a little more expensive, but it's simply a better place to live. May in Hoi An was ridiculously hot. We'll be staying in Phuket although pollution is becoming a turnoff with poor sewer treatment and construction runoff turning beach water brown. I shared the video on Facebook/The Phuket Sun.
Hey Pete - bet Hoi An has changed a lot even since your last visit, its developing quickly! Appreciate your detailed comment, thanks. And thank you for sharing on your page as well.
Very informative video guys thanks for sharing such information I plan to visit Indonesia and Vietnam both next month and I find your video really very help full for me thanks keep it up
You should see our other apartments and we also share our full living costs: ruclips.net/channel/UCmnpMr4Md5CgZ5MdlghTYqAplaylists?sort=dd&view=50&shelf_id=7 Fulltime travel is a lot cheaper than people think, if you want to know how you can do it as well we published a book on it: danegerandstacey.com/travel-full-time/
Haha $800 is nothing. It cost us around $1400 here for a 2 bed room in Melbourne. I know our dollars are weaker but $1 here probably can buy around as much as $1 in USA except for the fruits and vegetables here are way overpriced. But at least we are keeping our farmers happy!
Just don't forget the form of government you'll be living under. If you're into socialism (communism), with all that entails go for it. Just don't get caught saying the wrong thing to the wrong person. From what I understand, the ruling party still keeps their ears to the ground to pick up any winds of discord from the locals.
I REALLY enjoyed this video and detailed information given. It shed a lot of light and perspective on costs there. I truly appreciate the breakdown too and not being too general and vague. Question: What size & how many bedrooms was your apartment and also, was WiFi/internet included? Don’t forget to mention to have everyone look for your special deals in the description box. Thanks for everything!
Glad it was helpful. This was just a one bedroom studio type place and shared internet was included, but inconsistent at times. Its an old video but there was lots of questions at the time in the comments section here.
I was hoping you'd make a video like this one, really useful. Thank you! Still torn between the 2 places. What's making me lean a bit more towards Hoi An is the fact that I already have a friend in Mui Ne, with whom I would stay a week or 2 to get myself a bit accustomed. And the fact that I do not drive, nor do I desire to learn. Another thing I noticed is that there is so much toxicity in CM expat facebook groups, compared to Hoi An/Da Nang wherein there is rarely any drama and the locals are much more engaged and everybody is just having fun. You are lurking in both so am I just imagining things?
sheba021 There's only drama in CM if you mix with people like that. I've lived here for 4 months and I don't hang with "digital nomads". There's so many different kinds of people here that it's not hard to stay clear of drama.
Hey thanks for the reply. I am sure you are right, I just can't comprehend why is it so. Just curious, if you were avoiding DN's then who did you hang out with when you were there and where did you meet them? :)
+sheba021 Thanks, we're glad it's helpful :) Honestly in any 'digital nomad' specific group there is the tenancy for it to be a bit toxic and negative, which is honestly such a shame. The flip side is Hoi An/Danang groups are expats, they're often older, more relaxed and open to other people having an opinion and sharing their general experiences. Don't let the CM group put you off though, it is an awesome place! As +DearJRenae said you can pick who you hang out with and 99% of the people there are cool anyway. Even with a friend in Nui Ne I would still say Chiang Mai is easier to settle. Get an apartment day 1 easily, supermarket in walking distance, food options everywhere regardless where you live - it's not that simple in Hoi An sadly but it is a great place!
I won't be put off from coming to CM by something so trivial, I am just curious. :) I am from one of the poorest countries in Europe where the majority of people cope with $200-250 a month and are by and large depressed and miserable. Which is what I used to do for 30+ years until I got a lucky break with online video editing, and am now looking to get away from all of that. So from my perspective escaping the rat race and working remotely from an amazing place such as Thailand literally seems like beating the game. So I can't really comprehend the negativity. Anyways, thanks for the time to write all of this, I really appreciate it. I wish you guys all the best with your future travels, and if you ever pass through Novi Sad in Serbia during your Euro travels hit me up, I would love to meet for a beer and show you around! I wont be moving to SEA for at least a year.
Just found your channel tonight. Thanks for the information. How long are you planning to stay in Vietnam? Do you plan to stay in any other city in Vietnam?
+Sang L. Hey Sang - we’re glad you found us! We stayed for 3 months and leaving in 30 minutes 😂 we’re at the airport now. We’ll be sharing Malaysia and the Philippines over the next few months, hope you follow along.
Have fun on your journey! Here are some RUclipsrs that you might be able to collaborate with. USA / Manila - Wil Dasovich www. youtube .com/channel/UCSir19L_390tAg4IbCggvCg USA / Manila - Haley Dasovich www. youtube .com/channel/UCN6hslRs2k1btobUgRFoTkQ Manila - Daniel Marsh www. youtube .com/channel/UCiNCvGzwadWCZIzTUjoApRQ Manila - Erwan Heussaff www. youtube .com/user/erwanheussaff Manila - Alodia Gosiengfiao www. youtube .com/user/Alodia9 Manila - Ashley Gosiengfiao www. youtube .com/user/ashg17 Manila - Coraleen Waddell www. youtube .com/channel/UCAMlaS8ELTqpQDrt46PdKJg Canada / Bali (Maybe) - Lost LeBlanc www. youtube .com/channel/UCt_NLJ4McJlCyYM-dSPRo7Q/videos
We know most of those guys and would love to collab, but get the feeling they might think we're a little small for them haha. We need someone who knows them to get us in touch!
Thank you very much for that informative video I am retired American and I would like very much to return to Vietnam I would like to go around the Vung Tau area. But I really like that apartment that you were staying in especially if I can get one on the ground floor because it's easier for me at my age and I would have no problem running a motorbike and exploring I would enjoy that very much. I would like to spend approximately 3 to 4 months in Vietnam and then go to Thailand for 3 to 4 months. I would also possibly be interested in going to Bali but I've heard it's gotten quite expensive there. Thank you again for posting that and I will most definitely follow your post
Hey Joe - thanks for the great comment. Were glad you enjoyed this one. We've got 5 other cost of living videos from around the world you might find interesting as well: ruclips.net/user/playlist?index=1&list=PLUDuSYCnVh-QIE35ZoyyqrPDjHe32Q3u2&playnext=1
Saw a lot of American veterans moved back to VN to reunite with their friends over there. I saw in some videos that they would go out and drink coffees while chit chatting just like the old days. If you want to marry a Vietnamese woman then i wish you luck. But please, pick the right partner with not much of an age gap. Please, don’t turn VN unto Thailand. Its a place to raise a good family instead.
Daneger and Stacey I’m from Auckland with Malaysian root like Stacey 😊. Loving your videos and really considering relocating to Hoi An in the future. Keep up the great work guys!
Happy to hear it was helpful! Our book goes into all of this detail as well as how to actually make money as you travel, what to pack, visas, equipment and honestly so much more that we can't even mention quickly here: danegerandstacey.com/travel-full-time/
Appreciate it, thank you! We've got similar videos on Indonesia, Thailand and Philippines as well if you're interested. You can see them here: ruclips.net/video/z6JWjFljmZw/видео.html
My boyfriend and I are beginning our journey from Sweden to Thailand in 3 weeks. I would love to see a video about SIM cards, for example we're wondering how we can keep a phone number to contact people but keep the price low, as well as more info about data, the total cost, how to get the SIM card, what to do when you enter a new country, etc... we're just a little lost! =)
Hey guys - excited for you starting your journey! Don't stress over phones, it's easy everywhere in South East Asia. In Thailand you will need to take your passport though, your best option is to go with AIS because in the larger cities they also have wifi hotspots you can use in cafes and public places so you always will have good laptop wifi as well. Find out Chiang Mai cost of living video and we talk about costs of phone, but it is very cheap and you get 5gb or so easily.
Actually a useful video, a lot of people miss out all of the small items that add up in the end when making travelling cost videos. It's nice to see that your living a good lifestyle but so cheaply too. Too right that coffee has its own category hah we will see how much more it ends up being in Philippines!
Coffee always has its own category haha! Philippines accom is a lot more expensive, but the day to day stuff we really dont know what to expect. Time will tell :)
Thank you very much. It is very useful. I travelled to both cities and plan to live there later. But do you mind make a comparsion table to summarize it more clearly? Thanks a lot!
You're welcome :) Next time we compare two places we'll try include a summary table. There is a comparison of how the costs compared later in the video though.
absolutely fantastic videos....please keep including the gym memberships and supplement costs info in your videos. We live a similar lifestyle. Ive been living in Cebu City for three years now and might be looking for a change. thanks again.
Thanks so much for this - I am considering moving to both places (not sure which one will be first or second) so this is so helpful. I'll check out your other videos now
Daneger and Stacey Good to know. My boyfriend is in the creative industry so it sounds like CM would be good for him. I work as an English language teacher. Did you happen to meet any teachers while you were in Thailand or Vietnam?
Still Thailand man .I was all over Issan for 5 months . Can't compare to vietnam . I now live in Rayong ..seriously thinking about a move ..on my way there next week ....
Cheers man. We stayed at Riverside Garden Villas, best to get in touch with the local property agent for the area called Nha Toi real estate, also get into the Hoi An Expats Facebook group to keep an eye on some prices from more local offerings with no agent.
Daneger and Stacey I already do love it .. My wife and me own a house in (nha trang) close to the beach. I love your life style wish I had done the same when I was in my twenties...
Thanks for the overview Daneger & Stacey - just what I was looking for. One thing did pop into my mind while you were comparing with Chiang Mai... air quality. I've been in Thailand for several years now, and go to CM several times year. It is pretty cool place with great food... but it is also crazy congested and the air is toxic - especially in the smoky season. How would Hoi An compare?
No worries. At the time of making this we hadn't experienced the burning in CM yet, going back the following year we did and def didn't enjoy it - now its the worst place in the world. Still love CM the most, but burning season is a no go for us. Hoi An had locals burning crops, so sometimes you'd be in the wrong place, but mostly fine.
Haha I dont think I enjoyed it as much as you, but it is good to see the ABs take a lose and Australia playing like the days of old! You guys deserved that one for sure.
aloha. I ended up back at this video from the link in the PDF of your book (love it, BTW!!!) I was wondering if you totalled up all the airfare of your travels? that part was indeed a big expense for me in 2017. While the "travel lifestyle" that you enjoy would probably be quite similar to the one I'm transitioning into, there will also be at least 2 "flights home" for me back to the US. not a million dollars but certainly several million Dong ;-) I'm guessing flights back to NZ could be on-par with a flight from BKK back to California.. Anyway, thanks for your input on this item... fwiw, my 2017 expenses for airfare were about $12,000 for the year... multiple trips...
Glad you're enjoying! We haven't fully totalled all of our flights, but in our case we plan pretty specific routes based on ease of moving between them (except for when we went from Manila - Taipei - Chiang Mai to work on the book, that was brutal on the wallet). We only go home once a year and will work our way back in that direction, eg Bali, and then book long hauls from there in advance with airpoints and/or sales :)
Brian Pan ah. Yeh, China Southern is fairly inexpensive for my route as well. I go out of SAN or LAX. I've had excellent luck with EVA and the occasional bargaining on ANA
Hi. Yeah, I'm a bit late to the party here! Just wanted to thank you for your comparison between Hoi An and Chiang Mai, it's very useful. I'm currently living in Chiang Mai and have been considering Vietnam (I've been thinking of Da Nang), so the direct comparison is exactly what I needed and very informative.
No worries! We have a video on Danang apartment rentals if you want to see some costs for the more expat spots, they're similar to CM but not as good, we personally don't think. Costs wise you'd be pretty similar though overall :)
Oh no - maybe we ruined it for everyone else 😜 No but seriously, we'll leave a post in the Patreon group around how we managed to find it and get a deal, it will be helpful for you and Keri!
Hey guys!! Long time follower of your channel and love the vids! Living in Chiang Mai now and love the location independent lifestyle. Can you go into the process of traveling with protein powder and how you go about getting more while on the road. It is so expensive in Thailand!! thanks, you two are the best!!!
Thanks man. Theres no real solid answer, pay the price in the local spots which sucks or in a spot that you can buy in bulk for cheap (aka Vietnam was incredibly cheap for MyProtein) then stock up and travel with it if you have the weight.
You really can't talk for Vietnam after being in Hoi an, it's a nice place, but really touristy and the prices have gone up for that reason. You can get some better prices if you go to Cửa Đại on the river side or other places far enough away from the city not to be touristy.
We lived outside the main area of Hoi An because it was so touristy and expensive, but the further out you go the cheaper it gets for sure. For us, we found a great balance between western amenities and local prices, with the option to drive into the touristy spots if we wanted.
@@DanegerAndStacey Was in Vietnam twice , stayed in Long Khan ( close to HCMC) and Vung Tau at first time and second time Went to Quy Nhon , later went to Kontum (Stayed with a Vietnamese family and had great fun) .....Love Coffee ...yummy
How is the quality of life in these parts of the world ? I know that's a pretty vague question however i hear a lot of Americans living in Countries such as Indonesia/Spain/Hong Kong/Malaysia etc seem to be happy and can live off $1,000 a month rent/food etc. No way that would be possible in the USA What do they do for work? Majority of them life off savings? Jobs are not easy to come across i always use to hear about retired people doing this they are on a fixed income social security etc but more and more young people 20-40 year old's are leaving the USA and living in these areas.
Quality of life is incredible. Your money goes a very long way, the locals are amazing, the food is incredible, western luxury is there if you want it, lots to do and so much more! Just uploaded a cost of living comparison that might be helpful for you: ruclips.net/video/jYQ46waY5oY/видео.html
This is such a great detailed breakdown. Thanks for doing this. It seems like more and more are heading to Asia because of the low cost of living for a luxury lifestyle.
Great video guys! Really appreciate it 😁🙌... signed up to receive a notification when your e-books done... I'll be there first to buy it 😉... my twin and I are music producers and we have an e-com website so we think the digital nomad lifestyle could really work for us...we a really considering moving to Thailand with our girlfriends in the new year so the info you share is great! Helps a lot... ps. We love everything about Chiang Mia but no beach is a no go with our girlfriends lmao... what other places in Thailand would you recommend that are similar to chiang mia but closer to the ocean and suite more of a 2-3 bedroom villa lifestyle? Thanks again for the help!
Thanks man, the book will help you massively - it's basically what we wish we had before we spent months of our lives trying to figure all of this sh*t out haha. Thailand is a good place to start, take a look at Koh Phangan, its a beach and has some co-working place as well I think but we havent made it down there yet. Otherwise, you could seriously consider Hoi An, but it's tougher to adjust to life there, Danang is a city and has a beach so is sort of the best of both. Thailand is probs the better bet tho.
I'm interested to know how Chiang Mai costs compare to other cities within Thailand. Is it generally considered a cheaper or more expensive place than say, Phuket or Bangkok?
+Peter Kelly Chiang Mai is really well priced, Bangkok is super cheap as well. Havent been to Phuket in a few years but sounds like +Filonda has and it's pricier!
We spend $0 to live in our own house in the Azores and $0 for property tax etc. and about $300 a month for food and bills. So $300 buys a living for two with everything included and of course luxuries are extra, but the best climate in he world and best views are free as well as public parks, pools, libraries, concerts and many other free things.
@@DanegerAndStacey Flight to Lisbon is about €140 roundtrip for one person, but can find flights on sale. Going to another island by a ferry is as low as €7 roundtrip per person.
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thanks for all the effort, guys. really appreciate the gathered info!
Thanks for watching, we're stoked its helpful!
Thanks guys!:) quick question, which city are you living in Vietnam?
Your budget is about four times what a middle-class local would spend. Your spotless serviced apartment in a resort-like property is way out of reach of most Vietnamese. Even factoring in the evil reality of “foreigner prices” (a foreigner in Vietnam will always pay more for everything), you should be able to get a decent, furnished air-con apartment that maybe looks a little lived-in for $200. Also, no one in Vietnam who wants to live on a budget should ever set foot in a Western-style supermarket. Everything can be had cheaper in neighbourhood markets and shops. You can also eat in locally-oriented restaurants for $2 to $6 per person per meal. There is a lot more available than noodles and banh mi at one end or pricey Western restaurants at the other. Anyone thinking of living there for a year or more might also want to consider buying a used motorbike for $500 or $600 rather than renting. Finally, since you aren’t working apparently and are out being active everyday, it seems that gyms and protein powders are something most people could do without. But at least you are spending your money on that and not on masses of beers like so many expats! I also agree with you 100% about Vietnamese coffee: it’s a daily essential. Fresh juices and smoothies are available everywhere too - super cheap. In short, I could live in Vietnam, with a SO, for closer to $800 per month (and have done so). You are definitely living it up.
We 100% know we paid more to live this way, but it's the way we wanted to and other expats likely would want. We only ever shopped at the local markets, intimidating to begin with, but great in the long run and an awesome cultural experience. We probably should have bought a bike and resold it, if we stayed on a longer visa we probably would have. So yeah, most people could very easily live on a lot lower than $1200, completely agree! All comes down to the lifestyle you want. As for the Coffee - we bought about 1kg to travel with haha
I don't think they want to live like Vietnamese workers. Your points are accurate though.That holds true for all of SE Asia.
Your brief synopsis was very enlightening do you have any more info, been looking at Thailand but Vietnam looks so clean and unassuming my SS and what I might make as an expat might make living a lil tough in Chiang Mai but I'm thinking in that realm.
So true!
@Nguyễn Hải Dương Because it's a needless waste of money?
With only $600 per month, a person can live a *very good life* in Vietnam! Count me in. I am paying $1500 per month for a shoebox apartment in the States. I am packing for Vietnam.
Ah Josh, you gotta break free of that life and realise how much value and experiences you could have else where in the world! www.danegerandstacey.com
Daneger and Stacey Thank you
@@joshwion2014 If you don't have any kids, just gooo!
I do think Chiang mai Thailand cheaper
i been to vung tau for the entire month it's cheaper :P
Great video guys! I have been living in Chiang Mai for nearly 5 years and I am almost ready to move on. I visited Hoi An last year and fell in love with the place. Now seriously considering moving there. This video helped a lot. Cheers ✌
No worries. Heads up though (can't recall if we stressed it in this one) - Hoi An is haaard to live in. There was no supermarket there, maybe is now, so you had to do local markets, the odd small shop etc aka there is no Maya Mall / Rimping to just get everything perfectly arranged. It's a bit of a shit show. Amazing place though.
Hoi An is a great place to visit but not an ideal place to live in. The weather is so bad in the winter with endless rains and awful floods. The city government doesn’t encourage massive construction which may damage the heritage. You don’t want to see Walmart or McDonalds next to the Buckingham Palace right? I honestly recommend Da Nang which is not far from Hoi An and offers everything you need.
Please understand that in Asia things can be different from Australia or New Zealand where you can easily find a McDonald’s store next to a parliament building or throw Her Majesty’s image to the ground and burn it.
Awesome video guys. I have lived in both places as well (Da Nang instead Hoi An) and didn't realize the costs were so similar. I have always thought it was cheaper to live in Vietnam than Thailand. Thanks for the breakdown!
No worries, Will. Chiang Mai is definitely cheaper on the food front, but if you're willing to eat Banh Mi/Mi Quang/Cau Lao/Pho every day you'd probably be cheaper in Vietnam. Thanks!
Welcome to Vietnam. We Viets are very welcoming of nice foreigners like you. Enjoy our beautiful culture, rich history and proud traditions. Chao!!!
We had 3 great months in Vietnam and loved it - thanks so much!
Daneger and Stacey with the amount East Asian living in the West we need more Westerners living and mixing with us over here to balance it off.
This just popped up on my feed. Very informative video. We are heading to Thailand next month and Vietnam in February, so Very appreciated.
+Where the Jones Glad you found us! Thanks for commenting and letting us know, stoked it was helpful.
I love the sharpness of your videos and thumbnails. You guys inspire me!
Thanks man, appreciate that. You've hit up a few spots we're interested in visiting next year that'll be helpful for a rewatch closer to the time.
OMG it's Chris the Freelancer!!!!!
Can I just say I don't get as excited watching other travel videos anymore as much as I watch your videos. It's so incredibly well put together and your budget breakdowns are very informative. You have both inspired my boyfriend and I to travel to different cities and live like locals and it has been an incredible experience. Next stop Vietnam here we come!! Thank you for sharing!! ❤❤❤
That means a lot, thanks for taking the time to share!
This is probably one of the most informative and thorough breakdowns I've seen about expat living in Asia. Not only did I subscribe but I'm pretty much about to watch more of your videos.
This is probably one of the nicest comments we got 😀 Thanks! We're glad it's helpful!
Great overview and summation of your expenses guys. I'm jazzed and encouraged. After living in Mexico, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Cambodia and Thailand, I think Vietnam most likely has the MOST to offer. By that, I mean the highest quality of goods, services and infrastructure than anywhere I've been to date for the cost. Your total for 2 people is wonderful for what you get and how you live. Again... well done!
Thanks Steven. You will likely enjoy our most recent cost of living video on Thailand as well - only just updated it.
Steven Graham, Hypnotherapist is Vietnam the cheapest country to live?
Axl, I can only speak about those other 5 countries I have lived in but since Dane has given their exact expenses for 2 people in this video, it LOOKS like Vietnam is cheaper overall than the others. I will have to go to Vietnam and see for myself, so until then I can only wonder.
We personally think Chiang Mai is the best and cheapest place to live. You can find apartments a lot cheaper than what we pay, then each of the other categories are cheaper and your overall costs will be less, more luxury, more choice, more western.
I've been to Chiang Mai once. I liked it. I've heard there is a certain time of year when the farmers burn their rice paddies and the smoke for miles around is horrendously bad. Is that true? The only other problem I have with Thailand is their visa regulations. VERY strict about leaving the country every 2 or 3 months and if one gets a long-term retirement visa you still have to report in to immigration every 90 days for the rest of your life. Horrible visa rules, no??
I pay around $85/month for an apartment here in Viet Nam, utilities included. He's right, it's darn cheap.. though if you still want to live with your western amenities (A/C, Swimming pool, heated water), it will cost a bit more.
Thats crazy cheap - is it terrible conditions or what?? Yeah we're happier with the extra costs for the amenities.
in ho chi minh? and hows the conditions? im looking for a super cheap 1 room apartment with just a double bed and toilet ofcourse
Where in Vietnam are you paying around $85 to live in an apartment. I'm looking at apartments in Hanoi and none of them are remotely as cheap as $85. The cheapest one I've found in Hanoi is about $200. What websites, fb group pages and/or other relevant resources would you recommend that I look for to rent out a room or an apartment? Thanks
Michael Farfan hostel in HCM
Awesome detailed info man! I’m currently in the process of planning my own budget too for a big move back to Saigon in the next few months, which is probably going to be a bit more expensive compared to Hoi An but there are some of your categories that I don’t spend on so hopefully it will come out to be around $1000-1200. If you guys ever think of going to Saigon again in 2018, I would love to meet up with!
Exciting times ahead! From the travel we've done there and the comments we've had online about this vid it sounds like our costs are pretty in line with Saigon and Hanoi - so you'd be looking about the same. Per person is a lot cheaper though and if you love to just eat local food you could probably lower that cost more than we did!
you can get it cheaper then Hoi an if you don't mind living far from the touristy part of the city.
dang nang and Hoi An are the best places to live in vietnam
I came across your channel while researching our upcoming trip to Hoi An in January and I'm hooked! I've been binge watching all day. You two do a terrific job of filming and editing. I like that you give the names of places and restaurants you try. I stop the vid and pin them on google maps. Your positive attitudes and charming personalities come across very well. Keep vlogging please!
Hey James - from both of us, thank you! These are the type of comments that make us absolutely stoked and inspired to keep creating. We look for content like ours when we're about to travel somewhere as well, so if you found us and binged that means even more.
Excellent video, one of the best of it's kind I have seen. Glad I discovered your site.
Thank you Patrick. We've just filmed our next Thailand cost of living as well, that will be up next week :) Keep an eye out
You guys put together quality content that is so helpful and it's obvious that you spend a lot of time on it. Thank you for your hard work, my family and i appreciate it!
Thanks Phil, really appreciate you taking the time to say so
Very nice. I liked that gym a lot better. No golf balls used! Thanks for sharing all the details. It seems some things are more and some less in either country and your average was very close in both Thailand and Vietnam.
Definitely a lot better, we were shocked. Yeah very much pro's and con's for each place, good to visit both and you figure out pretty quick which bits are important to you.
New here. Fantastic video. Thank you for taking the time to make it. This is the best cost of living video I've seen. You got straight to the point and everything was super clear. Thanks again.
Hey Mark - thanks for the comment, we really like getting good feedback like this! Seen you left another comment about an error though, good spotting! I'll respond to that now.
Thank you for doing this! Yours was way easier to follow than the other vloggers cost vidz. Thanks again and keep up the great work!!
Thank you! We just uploaded our latest Thailand version as well if you're interested : ruclips.net/video/z6JWjFljmZw/видео.html
Such a helpful video, thank so much!
No worries. We've got videos like this on lots of different countries in South East Asia
Great video, very helpful! The gym and protein powder are actually pretty important to me so I'm glad you included those. Great insights about the food and activities too. Thanks for the info!
Thanks for letting us know man, we get a lot of shit for drinking 'protein gunk' and spending so much on the gym so its good to know others give a shit about their health as well haha. Glad it was helpful.
Really? Spending a few hours a week building and maintaining strong muscles keeps us young, healthy, and able to travel our whole life! It should be a top priority for someone who travels. Those people are probably just projecting their own insecurities. Protein shakes are awesome. 💪
You'd be surprised at the amount of people that have a beef with the subject, probably as they sit on their couch feeling like shit. Haha protein shakes are awesome 💪
Wow guys thanks for the great info. Just found your videos. Wife and I are looking at doing the same sort of thing in Hoi An next year so your videos have been super helpful. Cheers!
Happy to help, Rory. You guys will have an awesome time. If you're curious to know more about all of our costs and what goes into doing the travel thing full time we're pulling it all together in one resource, not a hard sell, but there genuinely is a sh*t load of information in there www.danegerandstacey.com
out of curiosity what do you guys use to stabilise your camera while on the bike or walking around town? some sort of handheld gimble or similar? would love to get shots of a similar quality when we are holidaying.
the coffee is amazing. thanks for the upload. keep up the good work!
Send us a cup, please?! We're in Croatia now and constantly dream of Vietnamese coffee
Hoi an is great! Good cost analysis video! Seen a lot of them..
Well paced and layed out..
Yes!! Going out to eat in hoi an is great but expensive I think.....
Thanks! Appreciate that. We like that their are options to stay local or eat away from the crowd and still get great well priced food.
If the costs were similar, I personally think Chiang Mai was overpriced because living in a well known UNESCO World Heritage Site should be costlier. However in reality, living in the UNESCO World Heritage Site Hoi An Vietnam is even cheaper than living in Chiang Mai Thailand, which is NOT a UNESCO World Heritage Site. SURPRISINGLY!
Very useful information and great quality of production! It's also super nice to hear a kiwi accent. I'm making the move to Thailand in a month but I love Vietnam also.
+Peter Jones Thanks Peter! Good luck with the move to Thailand, thanks for stopping by.
Hi Daneger and Stacy,thanks for your Honest,informative and professional video.I have commented on some of your previous videos,since then I have been to Chiang Mai,loved it and you were spot on.Thanks again.
That's so awesome to hear! Thanks for coming back and letting us know, glad you liked it!
Great video . Good straight foreward info. Are you both from New Zealand. I am too. Live in Thailand. And I do love Vietnam and the people. Would love to go back.
Hey Les - yup we're from NZ. Sadly not doing the nomad thing anymore, but loved our time exploring SEA and Europe
Excellent breakdown of the costs of both cities - you included everything. Consistently good content, guys! :)
Thanks Larry!
Hi guy's. Thanks for the breadown. I think thats reasonable for two people and to have all the fun you have. If its one person the eating cost should come down. I love that aparment on the river its awesome. Thanks
Terrific vid Dan and Stace. Packed with great and very useful info. My wife and I head to Hoi An for three months in May next year and was keen to know what hotel/villa you stayed at. I think the pool is a big plus.It was also good to see the comparisons with Chang Mai, as we intend to head their following our stay in VN.Thanks and happy travels. Steve
Thanks Steve, you guys will have a great time. We stayed at Riverside Garden Villas, best to get in touch with the local property agent for the area called Nha Toi real estate, also get into the Hoi An Expats Facebook group to keep an eye on some prices from more local offerings with no agent.
I love the style of your video, super nice job dude! :) Just subscribed. Living in Phuket now so pretty expensive but we also like to live like locals so can still live on about 1000USD for a family of 3. Not bad :)
Thats definitely still decent. Check our Chiang Mai cost of living as well, probably our first one if you want to stay a little cheaper, but there is some great deals there as well
yeah, we definitely want to go up there. I just love the beach too much :)
How do you make money though? You move to Thailand and enjoy having everything cheaper but if you work there then your salary will be pretty low.
@gamyuii You have your business setup in your home country so you can be paid in USD or a stronger currency 👌🏼
Very good and detailed comparison vid. Both places are in my plans to visit and I finally bought my ticket from Hawaii to Chiang Mai, flying end of May. I'll probably be there for 6 months before checking out VN. If I run into you guys sometime I'll have to buy you a couple of beers ;)
Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it. Your gonna love Chiang Mai and Vietnam, both amazing places! Not sure if you've seen it yet, but we've created a newer (and better) cost of living video for Thailand/Cm here: ruclips.net/video/z6JWjFljmZw/видео.html
Daneger and Stacey I'll check it out for sure. I subscribed to your channel after watching several vids. The content is really well done and much better than many others. Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much! Really appreciate you saying that.
Hello Daneger and Stacey! I am looking to come to Vietnam soon early December. I am curious what you guys do for a living (maybe I should watch more videos haha). Anyways I just finished my iOS Coding Bootcamp and looking to do some freelance/contract work and work remotely to be with my girlfriend in Vietnam. I was wondering if you guys are doing something similar because some of your video title talks about being a Nomad. If you are doing some kind of digital work, I would definitely like to know more! Anyways thanks for these videos, they are very entertaining to watch. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the nice comment! Yeah we're mostly remote and freelance, so you're on the right path there. Not tryna give you a hard sell or anything but the resource book we're working on will honestly be everything you need to know in one place - we genuinely hope it helps you (and others) get to that goal and book the ticket!
Great stuff guys. So comprehensive. I can’t believe that it’s so cheap to live over in Asia. Thanks for your video 👌🏻💪🏻👍🏻
You're welcome, hope it was helpful! Great lives out here with incredible value.
Daneger and Stacey 😉👍🏻
Great details. We were just back from 3 weeks holiday in vietnam and spent like aud 3000 there
Sounds about right for the cost of a holiday, those daily costs of transport and living in particular come down a lot when you settle in! Thanks for the comment.
This is the first video I've watched from you and I enjoyed it! Great job! Can you do a video on how to search for a furnished apartment in Vietnam and get set up there?
Great video thanks
I visited Da Nang in 2017 and I want to go back to Vietnam and stay longer thanks
Thanks Peter - great place isn't it. If you want to stay and live longer overseas this is the answer: danegerandstacey.com/travel-full-time/
We stayed for a month in Hoi An a couple of years ago and really enjoyed it. This is an excellent comparison of the cost of living between Thailand and Vietnam. Thailand has a better infrastructure. It's safer, the police force is better. Vietnam is more corrupt. Most people park their motorbikes in the house because they're stolen if not. I think food is better in LOS, although it's close. We also didn't like the number of rats we saw at night. Phuket, where I live is a little more expensive, but it's simply a better place to live. May in Hoi An was ridiculously hot. We'll be staying in Phuket although pollution is becoming a turnoff with poor sewer treatment and construction runoff turning beach water brown. I shared the video on Facebook/The Phuket Sun.
Hey Pete - bet Hoi An has changed a lot even since your last visit, its developing quickly! Appreciate your detailed comment, thanks. And thank you for sharing on your page as well.
Very informative video guys thanks for sharing such information I plan to visit Indonesia and Vietnam both next month and I find your video really very help full for me thanks keep it up
Awesome to hear! Thanks!
$400??! OMG. I want to move there! It costs me 2K to rent a one bedroom apartment in the U.S.
You should see our other apartments and we also share our full living costs: ruclips.net/channel/UCmnpMr4Md5CgZ5MdlghTYqAplaylists?sort=dd&view=50&shelf_id=7 Fulltime travel is a lot cheaper than people think, if you want to know how you can do it as well we published a book on it: danegerandstacey.com/travel-full-time/
Haha $800 is nothing. It cost us around $1400 here for a 2 bed room in Melbourne. I know our dollars are weaker but $1 here probably can buy around as much as $1 in USA except for the fruits and vegetables here are way overpriced. But at least we are keeping our farmers happy!
Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam are cheap! Vietnam and Thailand are cheaper than in the Philippines.
800$ is an average salary of egineer in Viet nam =))) so with 2000$ u are super rich in here
Just don't forget the form of government you'll be living under. If you're into socialism (communism), with all that entails go for it. Just don't get caught saying the wrong thing to the wrong person. From what I understand, the ruling party still keeps their ears to the ground to pick up any winds of discord from the locals.
I REALLY enjoyed this video and detailed information given. It shed a lot of light and perspective on costs there. I truly appreciate the breakdown too and not being too general and vague.
Question: What size & how many bedrooms was your apartment and also, was WiFi/internet included?
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Thanks for everything!
Glad it was helpful. This was just a one bedroom studio type place and shared internet was included, but inconsistent at times. Its an old video but there was lots of questions at the time in the comments section here.
Great summary....very comprehensive. Thank you.
You're very welcome!
Thanks! Very helpful and concise.
I was hoping you'd make a video like this one, really useful. Thank you! Still torn between the 2 places. What's making me lean a bit more towards Hoi An is the fact that I already have a friend in Mui Ne, with whom I would stay a week or 2 to get myself a bit accustomed. And the fact that I do not drive, nor do I desire to learn.
Another thing I noticed is that there is so much toxicity in CM expat facebook groups, compared to Hoi An/Da Nang wherein there is rarely any drama and the locals are much more engaged and everybody is just having fun. You are lurking in both so am I just imagining things?
sheba021 There's only drama in CM if you mix with people like that. I've lived here for 4 months and I don't hang with "digital nomads". There's so many different kinds of people here that it's not hard to stay clear of drama.
Hey thanks for the reply. I am sure you are right, I just can't comprehend why is it so.
Just curious, if you were avoiding DN's then who did you hang out with when you were there and where did you meet them? :)
+sheba021 Thanks, we're glad it's helpful :) Honestly in any 'digital nomad' specific group there is the tenancy for it to be a bit toxic and negative, which is honestly such a shame. The flip side is Hoi An/Danang groups are expats, they're often older, more relaxed and open to other people having an opinion and sharing their general experiences. Don't let the CM group put you off though, it is an awesome place! As +DearJRenae said you can pick who you hang out with and 99% of the people there are cool anyway. Even with a friend in Nui Ne I would still say Chiang Mai is easier to settle. Get an apartment day 1 easily, supermarket in walking distance, food options everywhere regardless where you live - it's not that simple in Hoi An sadly but it is a great place!
I won't be put off from coming to CM by something so trivial, I am just curious. :) I am from one of the poorest countries in Europe where the majority of people cope with $200-250 a month and are by and large depressed and miserable. Which is what I used to do for 30+ years until I got a lucky break with online video editing, and am now looking to get away from all of that. So from my perspective escaping the rat race and working remotely from an amazing place such as Thailand literally seems like beating the game. So I can't really comprehend the negativity.
Anyways, thanks for the time to write all of this, I really appreciate it. I wish you guys all the best with your future travels, and if you ever pass through Novi Sad in Serbia during your Euro travels hit me up, I would love to meet for a beer and show you around! I wont be moving to SEA for at least a year.
Just found your channel tonight.
Thanks for the information.
How long are you planning to stay in Vietnam?
Do you plan to stay in any other city in Vietnam?
+Sang L. Hey Sang - we’re glad you found us! We stayed for 3 months and leaving in 30 minutes 😂 we’re at the airport now. We’ll be sharing Malaysia and the Philippines over the next few months, hope you follow along.
Have fun on your journey!
Here are some RUclipsrs that you might be able to collaborate with.
USA / Manila - Wil Dasovich
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USA / Manila - Haley Dasovich
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Manila - Daniel Marsh
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Manila - Erwan Heussaff
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Manila - Alodia Gosiengfiao
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Manila - Ashley Gosiengfiao
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Manila - Coraleen Waddell
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Canada / Bali (Maybe) - Lost LeBlanc
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We know most of those guys and would love to collab, but get the feeling they might think we're a little small for them haha. We need someone who knows them to get us in touch!
I don't know them personally. I am just a fan.
But, it doesn't hurt to try, and send them a message.
Good luck! 👍
We will definitely try!
Nice one Daneger, Stacey, loved hearing about it and your travels etc. (Hi from Melbourne.)
Hey right back at ya! Thanks for watching.
Thank you very much for that informative video I am retired American and I would like very much to return to Vietnam I would like to go around the Vung Tau area. But I really like that apartment that you were staying in especially if I can get one on the ground floor because it's easier for me at my age and I would have no problem running a motorbike and exploring I would enjoy that very much. I would like to spend approximately 3 to 4 months in Vietnam and then go to Thailand for 3 to 4 months. I would also possibly be interested in going to Bali but I've heard it's gotten quite expensive there. Thank you again for posting that and I will most definitely follow your post
Hey Joe - thanks for the great comment. Were glad you enjoyed this one. We've got 5 other cost of living videos from around the world you might find interesting as well: ruclips.net/user/playlist?index=1&list=PLUDuSYCnVh-QIE35ZoyyqrPDjHe32Q3u2&playnext=1
Saw a lot of American veterans moved back to VN to reunite with their friends over there. I saw in some videos that they would go out and drink coffees while chit chatting just like the old days.
If you want to marry a Vietnamese woman then i wish you luck. But please, pick the right partner with not much of an age gap. Please, don’t turn VN unto Thailand. Its a place to raise a good family instead.
Great to watch a video from a fellow kiwi. Thanks for all the details on both Chiang Mai and Hoi An. Just wondering where you’ve lived in NZ?
No worries - thanks for watching 🤘🏼 We’re from Auckland. You live in NZ?
Daneger and Stacey I’m from Auckland with Malaysian root like Stacey 😊. Loving your videos and really considering relocating to Hoi An in the future. Keep up the great work guys!
Oh awesome! Thanks for watching - plenty more to come 👌🏼
Excellent video. Valuable for me. I'm going to visit your link to see how you travel full time. Stacey is so awesome.
Happy to hear it was helpful! Our book goes into all of this detail as well as how to actually make money as you travel, what to pack, visas, equipment and honestly so much more that we can't even mention quickly here: danegerandstacey.com/travel-full-time/
Great video! Professionally done and to the point..Thanks)
Appreciate it, thank you! We've got similar videos on Indonesia, Thailand and Philippines as well if you're interested. You can see them here: ruclips.net/video/z6JWjFljmZw/видео.html
My boyfriend and I are beginning our journey from Sweden to Thailand in 3 weeks. I would love to see a video about SIM cards, for example we're wondering how we can keep a phone number to contact people but keep the price low, as well as more info about data, the total cost, how to get the SIM card, what to do when you enter a new country, etc... we're just a little lost! =)
Hey guys - excited for you starting your journey! Don't stress over phones, it's easy everywhere in South East Asia. In Thailand you will need to take your passport though, your best option is to go with AIS because in the larger cities they also have wifi hotspots you can use in cafes and public places so you always will have good laptop wifi as well. Find out Chiang Mai cost of living video and we talk about costs of phone, but it is very cheap and you get 5gb or so easily.
Sounds great! Thanks! I appreciate the time taken to respond =) have fun in Malaysia!
You're welcome 😀
Actually a useful video, a lot of people miss out all of the small items that add up in the end when making travelling cost videos. It's nice to see that your living a good lifestyle but so cheaply too. Too right that coffee has its own category hah we will see how much more it ends up being in Philippines!
Coffee always has its own category haha! Philippines accom is a lot more expensive, but the day to day stuff we really dont know what to expect. Time will tell :)
Thank you very much. It is very useful. I travelled to both cities and plan to live there later. But do you mind make a comparsion table to summarize it more clearly? Thanks a lot!
You're welcome :) Next time we compare two places we'll try include a summary table. There is a comparison of how the costs compared later in the video though.
absolutely fantastic videos....please keep including the gym memberships and supplement costs info in your videos. We live a similar lifestyle. Ive been living in Cebu City for three years now and might be looking for a change. thanks again.
Thanks for the feedback! Hope you've been enjoying Cebu :)
This video has helped a lot even though it's now 2021. It's all relevant and relative. $1200 for 2 people is pretty good.
So happy to hear this! Makes all the work that goes into these vids worth it! Thanks for taking the time to let us know it was helpful.
Thanks so much for this - I am considering moving to both places (not sure which one will be first or second) so this is so helpful. I'll check out your other videos now
Chiang Mai is A LOT easier to settle into, keep that in mind :)
Daneger and Stacey Good to know. My boyfriend is in the creative industry so it sounds like CM would be good for him. I work as an English language teacher. Did you happen to meet any teachers while you were in Thailand or Vietnam?
One year ago today was your first episode. Congratulations
Wow thats actually crazy, that was just a fleeting holiday back then and we had no idea what we were doing 😜
Love your videos guys!
Thanks so much!
Thanks for the great video on the comparison between two lovely cities. It is really useful! For me, I will definitely vote for Chiang Mai!!!
+Chi Man Choi You’re welcome! Glad it was helpful.
Great videos, keep them coming! Thanks
Thanks Eric - we upload every few days. Lots more to come!
Great vid guys 😊
🤘🏼 Appreciate that!
Great videos, Try Udon Thani & Khon kaen &...better than the tourist hype of Phuket & Chang mai
Still Thailand man .I was all over Issan for 5 months . Can't compare to vietnam . I now live in Rayong ..seriously thinking about a move ..on my way there next week ....
Great overview and much appreciated. Got to try some of that coffee.
The coffee is heavenly!! Glad you enjoyed Ronald. Have similar videos on lots of other countries if you're interested.
Thank you guy ,you did a good jod for the comparation of prices. Thank again bewell
Thanks so much!
Great video and information. I plan to be in SE Asia later this year and into 2020.
Thanks for all the comments Sammie - glad you're enjoying the Vietnam vids. Enjoy your time there!
Daneger and Stacey You are welcome. I will enjoy.
Thankyou! I’m hoping to settle in Chang Mai for a while next year
Good stuff mate, Chiang Mai is an awesome spot to base yourself.
Very well done Mate!!!!
Thanks John - we've got similar videos on Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines as well if you're interested :)
Another great video. Very helpful. Where are you staying right now in hoi an? Any website or is it on airbnb? Thanks
Cheers man. We stayed at Riverside Garden Villas, best to get in touch with the local property agent for the area called Nha Toi real estate, also get into the Hoi An Expats Facebook group to keep an eye on some prices from more local offerings with no agent.
Cool video very informative.
Can't wait to move to Vietnam..
Glad it was helpful! You'll love 'Nam.
Daneger and Stacey
I already do love it ..
My wife and me own a house in (nha trang) close to the beach.
I love your life style wish I had done the same when I was in my twenties...
Oh cool! Nha Trangs a nice spot, been a few years since we visited but we enjoyed it there. We're very lucky to be able to live this way of life.
Thanks for the overview Daneger & Stacey - just what I was looking for. One thing did pop into my mind while you were comparing with Chiang Mai... air quality. I've been in Thailand for several years now, and go to CM several times year. It is pretty cool place with great food... but it is also crazy congested and the air is toxic - especially in the smoky season. How would Hoi An compare?
No worries. At the time of making this we hadn't experienced the burning in CM yet, going back the following year we did and def didn't enjoy it - now its the worst place in the world. Still love CM the most, but burning season is a no go for us. Hoi An had locals burning crops, so sometimes you'd be in the wrong place, but mostly fine.
thanks for this vlogg mate i hope you enjoyed the game on Saturday i did haa
Haha I dont think I enjoyed it as much as you, but it is good to see the ABs take a lose and Australia playing like the days of old! You guys deserved that one for sure.
Very helpful. Thanks very much guys.
Thanks for watching and commenting on a few 👌🏼
A few anomalies in your Chiang Mai figures and standards but no big deal, good work overall 4.5 stars :)
thanks, so insightful!
You're welcome - glad it was helpful!
Cheers bro
Really useful infos👍
No worries!
this is just awesome I love this page !!!!
Thanks Gabe. New Thailand cost of living video to come soon as well.
Awesome im going to make Thailand my first destination will definitely watch the video!!! keep making videos love em all !
you guys definitely inspire me thanks so much !!!
great job thanks for the info
No worries, thanks for letting us know.
Great Video really helped cheers you two
aloha. I ended up back at this video from the link in the PDF of your book (love it, BTW!!!) I was wondering if you totalled up all the airfare of your travels? that part was indeed a big expense for me in 2017. While the "travel lifestyle" that you enjoy would probably be quite similar to the one I'm transitioning into, there will also be at least 2 "flights home" for me back to the US. not a million dollars but certainly several million Dong ;-) I'm guessing flights back to NZ could be on-par with a flight from BKK back to California.. Anyway, thanks for your input on this item... fwiw, my 2017 expenses for airfare were about $12,000 for the year... multiple trips...
FYI......best fares RT/OneWay from JFK to Danang are China Southern Airlines.
Glad you're enjoying! We haven't fully totalled all of our flights, but in our case we plan pretty specific routes based on ease of moving between them (except for when we went from Manila - Taipei - Chiang Mai to work on the book, that was brutal on the wallet). We only go home once a year and will work our way back in that direction, eg Bali, and then book long hauls from there in advance with airpoints and/or sales :)
Brian Pan ah. Yeh, China Southern is fairly inexpensive for my route as well. I go out of SAN or LAX. I've had excellent luck with EVA and the occasional bargaining on ANA
Well done, great info, thanks!
Great video!!!!! Nice one kiwis x
Hi. Yeah, I'm a bit late to the party here! Just wanted to thank you for your comparison between Hoi An and Chiang Mai, it's very useful. I'm currently living in Chiang Mai and have been considering Vietnam (I've been thinking of Da Nang), so the direct comparison is exactly what I needed and very informative.
No worries! We have a video on Danang apartment rentals if you want to see some costs for the more expat spots, they're similar to CM but not as good, we personally don't think. Costs wise you'd be pretty similar though overall :)
Thank you for that, I had missed that video. I just watched it and it's (once again) great information.
You're welcome.
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I'm spewing, the apartment raised it to $500usd a month 😪😪 Loved the video guys, very helpful and detailed!
Oh no - maybe we ruined it for everyone else 😜 No but seriously, we'll leave a post in the Patreon group around how we managed to find it and get a deal, it will be helpful for you and Keri!
Love the detailed answers / posts in Patreon, so worth it!
Daneger and Stacey I'm interested in how you found it too. Because we're headed there in December. We're packing now preparing for our move to Krabi.
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This is very helpful thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Hey guys!! Long time follower of your channel and love the vids! Living in Chiang Mai now and love the location independent lifestyle. Can you go into the process of traveling with protein powder and how you go about getting more while on the road. It is so expensive in Thailand!!
thanks, you two are the best!!!
Thanks man. Theres no real solid answer, pay the price in the local spots which sucks or in a spot that you can buy in bulk for cheap (aka Vietnam was incredibly cheap for MyProtein) then stock up and travel with it if you have the weight.
awesome vid, did you buy the protein powder there & gym membership is 31 PP right? thanks
Can't recall the gym costs now sorry, this was years ago, but the protein powder was bought there and really well priced
Just subscribed !! Great and to the point video...could you do an update on costs in 2022 ?
When we eventually get back over that way we will
You really can't talk for Vietnam after being in Hoi an, it's a nice place, but really touristy and the prices have gone up for that reason. You can get some better prices if you go to Cửa Đại on the river side or other places far enough away from the city not to be touristy.
We lived outside the main area of Hoi An because it was so touristy and expensive, but the further out you go the cheaper it gets for sure. For us, we found a great balance between western amenities and local prices, with the option to drive into the touristy spots if we wanted.
@@DanegerAndStacey Was in Vietnam twice , stayed in Long Khan ( close to HCMC) and Vung Tau at first time and second time Went to Quy Nhon , later went to Kontum (Stayed with a Vietnamese family and had great fun) .....Love Coffee ...yummy
Thank you so much! We love your videos! What was the villa called where you stayed?
Thank you
Linda and Jonas
Hey guys - thanks so much! Heres the villa: danegerandstacey.com/HoiAnVilla
How is the quality of life in these parts of the world ? I know that's a pretty vague question however i hear a lot of Americans living in Countries such as Indonesia/Spain/Hong Kong/Malaysia etc seem to be happy and can live off $1,000 a month rent/food etc. No way that would be possible in the USA What do they do for work? Majority of them life off savings? Jobs are not easy to come across i always use to hear about retired people doing this they are on a fixed income social security etc but more and more young people 20-40 year old's are leaving the USA and living in these areas.
Quality of life is incredible. Your money goes a very long way, the locals are amazing, the food is incredible, western luxury is there if you want it, lots to do and so much more! Just uploaded a cost of living comparison that might be helpful for you: ruclips.net/video/jYQ46waY5oY/видео.html
This is such a great detailed breakdown. Thanks for doing this. It seems like more and more are heading to Asia because of the low cost of living for a luxury lifestyle.
You're welcome, thanks for watchng. Definitely lots of people coming to Asia, which is ironic because it's actually lifting the costs most places haha
great post ! hi, new subscriber here !!!
Thanks so much Santitos, glad you liked it!
Great video guys! Really appreciate it 😁🙌... signed up to receive a notification when your e-books done... I'll be there first to buy it 😉... my twin and I are music producers and we have an e-com website so we think the digital nomad lifestyle could really work for us...we a really considering moving to Thailand with our girlfriends in the new year so the info you share is great! Helps a lot... ps. We love everything about Chiang Mia but no beach is a no go with our girlfriends lmao... what other places in Thailand would you recommend that are similar to chiang mia but closer to the ocean and suite more of a 2-3 bedroom villa lifestyle? Thanks again for the help!
Ps. We are not set onThailand if you think there are better options lol cheers!
Thanks man, the book will help you massively - it's basically what we wish we had before we spent months of our lives trying to figure all of this sh*t out haha. Thailand is a good place to start, take a look at Koh Phangan, its a beach and has some co-working place as well I think but we havent made it down there yet. Otherwise, you could seriously consider Hoi An, but it's tougher to adjust to life there, Danang is a city and has a beach so is sort of the best of both. Thailand is probs the better bet tho.
I'm interested to know how Chiang Mai costs compare to other cities within Thailand. Is it generally considered a cheaper or more expensive place than say, Phuket or Bangkok?
I'm in Chiang Mai. Restaurants are 2-3x times cheaper here than in Phuket (fried rice costs 35 bahts). Bangkok is also generally cheaper than Phuket.
+Peter Kelly Chiang Mai is really well priced, Bangkok is super cheap as well. Havent been to Phuket in a few years but sounds like +Filonda has and it's pricier!
Interesting, thanks for the responses guys.
Appreciate the video thanks
Thanks for letting us know 👌🏼
We lived in HoiAn for a year and loved it. Soon we are moving to Siem Reap Cambodia to live. Have you been to Myanmar yet.
Not been to Myanmar, hoping to get there next year
Thankx for that !! :)
You're welcome! Hope it was helpful.
We spend $0 to live in our own house in the Azores and $0 for property tax etc. and about $300 a month for food and bills. So $300 buys a living for two with everything included and of course luxuries are extra, but the best climate in he world and best views are free as well as public parks, pools, libraries, concerts and many other free things.
What about when you travel though? Apples with apples and all
@@DanegerAndStacey Flight to Lisbon is about €140 roundtrip for one person, but can find flights on sale. Going to another island by a ferry is as low as €7 roundtrip per person.