I figured it was something like this but I was almost positive I was only using 3 combo points ever on flurry, maybe I was being too mindless about it then. Thanks for making me a better player.
I used your build so thanks for sharing hence I always wanted to get a decent Andy's rogue build. I use Tyrael's Might and Doombringer instead , so I don't have Might and Inner Calm aspect. What do you you think of Doombringer and Tyrael's Might in your build ? I am not willing to go past Pit 100+ so am I missing a lot from your point of view by not getting more ranks in Dark Shroud and less damage?
The dev team seems to forgot about the gem, they tend to make dot dmg have greater roll value than vul and crit dmg all over the gear affixes, but the gems stay the same as b4 the loot reborn patch
Good to know, i had this happen a few times when i dive in at the start when i am trying to spread everything before i get my dark shroud stacked up. At least i know what is happening now.
yo Xarrio can you do that math between Exploit,Maice,Frigid vs Exploit,Malice,Weapon Mastery which one is the best in damage output when doing high tier pit lik 125+ thanks in advance
Loving the build, but not quite understanding it. Stacking Lucky hit chance is the way forward, in order to deal more poison dot damage, am I getting that correctly? Also, why are you using a blue vulnerable gem in your dagger instead of an amethyst for more dot dmg? The guide you had on planner also shows amethysts in the daggers. Thanks for the guide! Love the build so far :)
Hi, i have one questions if you are willing to answer. Why shadow imb over cold? Wouldn't cold make chill/freeze and noxious ice more consistent? Plus the 35% ctf it has may free up some temper slots. Is the 12x given by shadow that much necessary? Thanks in advance :)
Good Q. For general questions regarding the Andy build, please see the video build guide ruclips.net/video/dxqXBET2RBs/видео.html (your Q is answered in the pinned comment #11).
Hi Xarrio, i wanna ask you something about the build, instead of chip can't we use devious at the exact same location where you put chip, since we don't care about physical damage from chip, devious also gives the 10% increase and 150% to magic nodes wich would perfectly fit to the cheap shot tree
After reading the description for Devious (my first season finally playing Rogue), does the damage bonus even apply to bosses? From a strict interpretation of the wording, it almost sounds like it doesn't. It says when you hit with an attack that applies a cc effect. I'm not even sure it works during stagger, since the boss counts as cc'd, but you aren't applying a cc effect directly per se. It doesn't say when you hit a cc'd enemy or even more ambiguously when you hit with a cc applying attack. It just says when you hit with an attack that applies a crowd control effect, ie if you successfully stun or freeze or slow a mob which you can't do to a boss? Unless this is wrong and it just works on bosses for some reason despite its wording?
Does this mean the “close combat attk speed buff” with a full 3combo points continues even you hit next flurry with 1,2 combo points? Why does it get stuck?
have you tried getting rid of shared misery, use grasp of shadow gloves and get rid of Poison Trap and use Shadow Clone and see if it multiplies the poison from shadow clone? I was doing that on your planner
Hello, I'm Korean. I enjoyed the video. I did the same thing as item skill tree and so on, but when I fight with the boss, the poison damage gets weak to the boss at 101pit. I fought the same way as you did with Xarrio ㅠㅠ...
So just curious is the rotation puncture to get combo points and one press flurry, puncture get to combo points, one press flurry? Or should I use flurry for longer?
Another thing, is there a bug with the build that causes bosses to heal? I know rupture on barb currently has a chance to heal enemies due to a bug, and it seems like the boss' hp will jump up and down randomly during fights.
Good Q. For general questions regarding the Andy build, please see the video build guide ruclips.net/video/dxqXBET2RBs/видео.html (your Q is answered in the pinned comment #13).
The build in the video and the build in the planner are two different builds?😅 You have poison trap in the video and you haven't put poison trap in the planner?!
@@Akunza It'll def still be an option. If ret double dip was nerfed, we would lose 37.5% dmg. This is 4-5 pit tiers worth of health. So instead of doing a T120, I could only do maybe a T116-T115. Compared to heartseeker vict build, which would lose probably around 80%-95% of it's damage (depending on what you are attacking/if abusing boss bug a lot) if all of its bugs were fixed. Also, pretty much all builds are going to be affected by the ret double dipping, it isn't just this build. ANY build that is using retribution is getting double dipping.
As long as you don't use it too early at the start, you are fine. It is the opposite problem... as long as you aren't too fast, you are fine. No macro needed. Macro would actually be bad b/c you would use it too often probably. If you play it too fast (use it at 1 combo point at the start), then you get stuck.
@@Xarrio the buff doesn't last that long though. There are many opportunity to mess up the first cast of flurry. A macro that always use 3 basics first then core wouldn't get out of sync / bricked... Not that I'm advocating for macros... Just this kind of build is too much clicking for me
@@kable84 that's not how I would make the macro... It's easy problem to solve. But do so at your own risk. Blizzard doesn't seem to ban dupe, bots or rmt, so I doubt they will ban scripter first
Pros and cons. You could put attack speed on all rings/ammy/gloves with some good GA rolls to make up for the 45% flurry buff, but then you are giving up a lot of dmg or health when you could get the attack speed for "free" using combo points. Flurry also gives other things like allows SI and putting vuln. But yes, you could do that if you want a more easy to use playstyle that isn't quite as good imo.
@Xarrio also was wondering since puncture itself has a high lucky hit chance and andariel has a base of 50% lucky hit doesn't that mean you don't even need any lucky hit on gears anymore since you already get a total of 100%?
Pure rogue melee is suffering right now, you'll be stuck really low. I enjoy leveling melee but have to switch at some point. Andariels is doing most of the damage
@@Critz0616 he's 100% right on what he's saying, we don't clear 120 that easily lol, go watch wudijo last video about rogues, you will understand what hes saying, rogue is in a very bad position, needs revamping in glyphs and abilities, rogues multiplieres compared to other classes suck.
This whole season/game are bugged to hell and back. This season only backed up what I said before the season...it's trash. This game is dying. This season has a lot of issues. Going forward it won't be enough to fix things as they go along. And what a shocker that rogue is bugged and doing a shit ton of damage.
Maybe you wanna watch the video first: This bug is _not_ beneficial (and the damage comes from synergising an uber unique, it doesn’t do damage without andy).
Just swapped to this build at level 90. Have all pieces except a good necklace. At what masterwork level do you need to be to cap armor and resistances?
I was just trying to figure this very thing out. My speed and damage would randomly fall off and now I know why. Thanks for figuring it out for us
I figured it was something like this but I was almost positive I was only using 3 combo points ever on flurry, maybe I was being too mindless about it then. Thanks for making me a better player.
Hi, thanks for the Video, quick question which kind of Build are you using in this video ? Is this the Max DPS Boss Farm Build ? Thanks a lot.
ok this was the reason why i was struggling with my attack speed. thank you so much for figuring it out!
I used your build so thanks for sharing hence I always wanted to get a decent Andy's rogue build. I use Tyrael's Might and Doombringer instead , so I don't have Might and Inner Calm aspect.
What do you you think of Doombringer and Tyrael's Might in your build ?
I am not willing to go past Pit 100+ so am I missing a lot from your point of view by not getting more ranks in Dark Shroud and less damage?
Build is sick At lvl 90 I did a pit 80 lol!
The dev team seems to forgot about the gem, they tend to make dot dmg have greater roll value than vul and crit dmg all over the gear affixes, but the gems stay the same as b4 the loot reborn patch
Good to know, i had this happen a few times when i dive in at the start when i am trying to spread everything before i get my dark shroud stacked up. At least i know what is happening now.
yo Xarrio can you do that math between Exploit,Maice,Frigid vs Exploit,Malice,Weapon Mastery which one is the best in damage output when doing high tier pit lik 125+ thanks in advance
Loving the build, but not quite understanding it. Stacking Lucky hit chance is the way forward, in order to deal more poison dot damage, am I getting that correctly? Also, why are you using a blue vulnerable gem in your dagger instead of an amethyst for more dot dmg? The guide you had on planner also shows amethysts in the daggers. Thanks for the guide! Love the build so far :)
Hi, i have one questions if you are willing to answer. Why shadow imb over cold? Wouldn't cold make chill/freeze and noxious ice more consistent? Plus the 35% ctf it has may free up some temper slots. Is the 12x given by shadow that much necessary? Thanks in advance :)
Can't wait to try this build. RNG for ga drops is making it almost impossible to switch
Awesome build. But why do you play the bow when you're in close combat anyway?
Hi what is the sequence to attack here ? First flurry then inpunction ? I never get the playstyle here 😊
Is the bug with combo points? If so is it theoretically affecting the other core skills like rapid fire and pen shot buids which use combo points?
Hello love your buids and I am playing this build ... any update with the new patch and the alteration with the powers of ANDY
Dude thank you!! This has been bothering me so much. I def felt it, its annoying.
Im planning to use andy’s at lvl 35 is there a planner for leveling if not can you give insight or make a new planner for leveling?
ive seen this new video where used andariels visage doombringer and Azurewrath with heartseeker, do you think this build could work ?
Thanks - Hey does the poison nova from andariels get buffed from dexterity? Not sure if the "poison nova" is considered a skill
Good Q. For general questions regarding the Andy build, please see the video build guide ruclips.net/video/dxqXBET2RBs/видео.html (your Q is answered in the pinned comment #11).
@@Xarrio I see thanks dude! I didn't see the comments. It answered some other things I was curious about also
Awesome explanation. Thanks for this video!
Hi Xarrio, i wanna ask you something about the build, instead of chip can't we use devious at the exact same location where you put chip, since we don't care about physical damage from chip, devious also gives the 10% increase and 150% to magic nodes wich would perfectly fit to the cheap shot tree
After reading the description for Devious (my first season finally playing Rogue), does the damage bonus even apply to bosses? From a strict interpretation of the wording, it almost sounds like it doesn't. It says when you hit with an attack that applies a cc effect. I'm not even sure it works during stagger, since the boss counts as cc'd, but you aren't applying a cc effect directly per se. It doesn't say when you hit a cc'd enemy or even more ambiguously when you hit with a cc applying attack. It just says when you hit with an attack that applies a crowd control effect, ie if you successfully stun or freeze or slow a mob which you can't do to a boss? Unless this is wrong and it just works on bosses for some reason despite its wording?
devious dmg % increase doesn't work on bosses, chip does.
What about running doombringer with this build? Is it worth it
hey! did you tested fists of fate in this bulid?
I don't have that charm yet! Can I use melted selig heart for now?
I miss your cold rapid fire eternal/s1 times.. i was out for 2 seasons.. came back.. no more RF 😢
dear god i was trying to figure out wtf was happening
THANKs
Why the paragon change to Fluidity? Resource generation is useless? Or are we using it just for the rare node bonus?
It is being changed tomorrow to give 10% dmg boost.
Nice! Gonna try it!
What do you think about thorns rogue build?
What’s the best glyph to upgrade
Does this mean the “close combat attk speed buff” with a full 3combo points continues even you hit next flurry with 1,2 combo points? Why does it get stuck?
have you tried getting rid of shared misery, use grasp of shadow gloves and get rid of Poison Trap and use Shadow Clone and see if it multiplies the poison from shadow clone? I was doing that on your planner
shadow clone is bugged and not worth the points
Hello, I'm Korean. I enjoyed the video.
I did the same thing as item skill tree and so on, but when I fight with the boss, the poison damage gets weak to the boss at 101pit. I fought the same way as you did with Xarrio ㅠㅠ...
Are you on twitch?
Good info, thanks.
Thank you, i was noticing something was off sometimes
So just curious is the rotation puncture to get combo points and one press flurry, puncture get to combo points, one press flurry? Or should I use flurry for longer?
Puncture 3x times -> flurry -> puncture for 3 sec -> flurry -> repeat 3 and 4
@@Xarriothank you! Gotta get the timing down but loving the set up.
Another thing, is there a bug with the build that causes bosses to heal? I know rupture on barb currently has a chance to heal enemies due to a bug, and it seems like the boss' hp will jump up and down randomly during fights.
Good Q. For general questions regarding the Andy build, please see the video build guide ruclips.net/video/dxqXBET2RBs/видео.html (your Q is answered in the pinned comment #13).
Can you do a video on how to scale poison massively in s4 lol.
why dont we use a doombringer? wouldnt it help scale damage?
I was wondering this too
The build in the video and the build in the planner are two different builds?😅 You have poison trap in the video and you haven't put poison trap in the planner?!
There are different variations on the planner.
@@Xarrio I see it now. many thanks
I was checking out the build and i noticed theres like no resistance on anything, where do you get resistance?
Check again
Can you a amulet with frigid finesse and wepon mastery
Wait, is ur build planner wrong with the skill tree? You are putting all skill points into dark shroud, but you are not even using it? Plz help
Umbrous aspect procs dark shroud for me.
@@Xarrio ahhhh, so that’s why you assign a skill point to dark shroud?
question, why bow instead of crossbow?
Why do you use shadow imbuement rather than poison imbuement?
Yea wtf haha was thinking the same
Just thank you Sir!!!!
Think this is gonna get nerfed? I have a 1 star Andy but idk if I should just trash it and transmute me a Shako
Nerfed? The bug is working against us, not helping us.
Slaydra said this build wont be even an option if they fix the double dip with retribution aspect is what I meant
Slaydra LUL. His “builds” barely do pit 70s.
@@Akunza It'll def still be an option. If ret double dip was nerfed, we would lose 37.5% dmg. This is 4-5 pit tiers worth of health. So instead of doing a T120, I could only do maybe a T116-T115. Compared to heartseeker vict build, which would lose probably around 80%-95% of it's damage (depending on what you are attacking/if abusing boss bug a lot) if all of its bugs were fixed. Also, pretty much all builds are going to be affected by the ret double dipping, it isn't just this build. ANY build that is using retribution is getting double dipping.
Video starts at 2:09
You're the best, bro!! The legend
season of auto attacks
Oh come on now don't be ridiculous. Necro doesnt even need to attack!
@@Dreamagain11so true 😂 class for the brain dead
Why you want use your brain for play Hack and slash ?
@@kyoshiro-mibu where's the fun doing nothing
The legend returns
So you basically always have to make sure the first hit is a 3 combo point
Is this fixed now?
Can fist of fate proc on andariels explosion?
I would need a macro to play a combo point build this fast, especially if you can brick your attack speed if you use flurry too early.
As long as you don't use it too early at the start, you are fine. It is the opposite problem... as long as you aren't too fast, you are fine. No macro needed. Macro would actually be bad b/c you would use it too often probably. If you play it too fast (use it at 1 combo point at the start), then you get stuck.
@@Xarrio the buff doesn't last that long though. There are many opportunity to mess up the first cast of flurry. A macro that always use 3 basics first then core wouldn't get out of sync / bricked... Not that I'm advocating for macros... Just this kind of build is too much clicking for me
What if the puncture misses then its always put of sync...
@@kable84 that's not how I would make the macro... It's easy problem to solve. But do so at your own risk. Blizzard doesn't seem to ban dupe, bots or rmt, so I doubt they will ban scripter first
Thanks
Yeah it’s funny how every class except necro’s best build uses a basic attack as it’s main form of damage
Good I mess up my Flurry a lot still and fix my bug with my fail combo. 🤣
why not just get more attack speed on rings and gloves so you dont need to rely on flurry buff
Pros and cons. You could put attack speed on all rings/ammy/gloves with some good GA rolls to make up for the 45% flurry buff, but then you are giving up a lot of dmg or health when you could get the attack speed for "free" using combo points. Flurry also gives other things like allows SI and putting vuln. But yes, you could do that if you want a more easy to use playstyle that isn't quite as good imo.
@Xarrio also was wondering since puncture itself has a high lucky hit chance and andariel has a base of 50% lucky hit doesn't that mean you don't even need any lucky hit on gears anymore since you already get a total of 100%?
Can I use this build without andriel helm 🥺
No.
Pure rogue melee is suffering right now, you'll be stuck really low. I enjoy leveling melee but have to switch at some point. Andariels is doing most of the damage
@@LastAphelion how can you say that when he's easily clearing 120s which most casuals and even grinders don't even care to reach?
@@Critz0616 he's 100% right on what he's saying, we don't clear 120 that easily lol, go watch wudijo last video about rogues, you will understand what hes saying, rogue is in a very bad position, needs revamping in glyphs and abilities, rogues multiplieres compared to other classes suck.
You 1000% cannot do the buuld withoit Andariels. it is called the andariel flurry build because of the helmey.
I cant open link
The buff is snap shotted. That's annoying
It makes me so damn angry that they dont play test any fucking thing they release and people continue to glaze the company and give them money
Blizzard code at it again.
Man.... 370mi in DoT.... 😐🤯
This whole season/game are bugged to hell and back. This season only backed up what I said before the season...it's trash. This game is dying. This season has a lot of issues. Going forward it won't be enough to fix things as they go along. And what a shocker that rogue is bugged and doing a shit ton of damage.
Maybe you wanna watch the video first:
This bug is _not_ beneficial (and the damage comes from synergising an uber unique, it doesn’t do damage without andy).
THIRD
Just swapped to this build at level 90. Have all pieces except a good necklace. At what masterwork level do you need to be to cap armor and resistances?