Boogie2988 Confronted After Lying About His Cancer
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Boogie had no idea Destiny already explored the whole dialogue tree xD
destiny plug he self into da machine again cuh
it took all 10 minutes
Amen
@@Mewsashi-cz9foyou don't need a medical background 😂
@@Mewsashi-cz9fo You can research this stuff you don't need a medical background what
Destiny began this crusade because Boogie said the line "It's cancer, you don't generally get better". It triggered the research.
It's hilarious how a little stupid remark cost him his entire scam.
NGL that's a statement full of manipulation. Am sure it's rare, but everyone knows some people do recover from cancer. 😂
@MuscleboundKage which was destiny's whole point. It pissed him off immediately and he started going nuts finding everything he could from boogie about the situation
He mentions it in the video but the mother of his child had an acute cancer in their early 20s and destiny did what he could to help even though they'd been broken up at the time. He has some personal beef here and it's honestly refreshing to see him in a bit of that human light
@@Erik-mf5zoAgreed, but I like Destiny’s not dependent on his human side. The human spirit is an incredibly stupid animal.
At this point 1 of 2 things is true:
1. Boogie is faking cancer
2. Boogie wants everyone to believe that he is faking cancer
the truth is number 1, number 2 is something you made up so you can be right no matter what is said.
it's 2 and the rest of these clowns are the usual suspects for fake cross community internet drama
@@Thee-_-Outlierat this Point ITS either
1 You being Boogie
2 you being Boogie with a Fake Account
@@CharlyDerKater hopefully you are not a detective, or maybe you are and that explains the state of the justice system these days
@@Thee-_-Outlier underated probably factual comment. TOOOOO THE TOP!
The worst day of Boogie’s life, just a Wednesday for Destiny
The "destiny knows 100% about this more than boogie" comment is true because like everything else destiny does it takes like 30min-hr of reading and it becomes super obvious.
When Destiny asked XQC “do you care about this anymore?” right before leaving was the cherry on top.
Just segment 1 of the podcast on to segment 2.
Think it was Dan that made that legendary comment xD.
Destiny is desperately trying to find someone worse than him 😄
The "doctor could have lied for clout" is the best example of projection I've ever seen.
pretty sure the doctor will lose his license if he does that
Yh, Doc is so interested in that clout, how else are they gonna make money on their youtube channel 😂😂😂
@@Sammy-mm6rv Yeah their non-existant youtube channel is going to explode after this. The clout will be unreal.
@@JohnWick-rh1zz Not just pretty sure, but 100% sure. Lying about diagnosis is a no go. Even making a mistake by accident, an honest mistake, when it comes to potentially lethal illnesses, puts your license at jeopardy.
dude has a big case of cognitive dissonance
Keemstar bringing on Destiny to destroy Boogie on his own podcast because Boogie lied about Keemstar to Coffeezilla is savage.
Keemstar's pettyness is what I both love and hate the most about him.
I can't watch this. Biggest bunch of losers. And destiny is a bundle of sticks. His voice is hilarious
Petty as hell.......and I love it
@@radiantveggies9348youre so cool
@@johnnyflannigan136 thanks
destiny, boogie, xqc, keem, wings of redemption; nightmare blunt rotation
Don't forget the goofy clown laugh every 15s
@rep-vile who's doing that bro, shits got me punching air
My favorite part of that podcast is where Wings starts asking about the boxing match medical exam and how he was allowed to box if he had cancer and Boogie had no answer.
As someone that had cancer before, they definitely do not treat you before confirmation as in the treatments are almost on the same level of destruction as cancer sometimes
did you beat it?? if so, congratulations!
Glad to hear that sentence in the past tense. Congratulations on beating it m8, best wishes from Poland ❤
Cancer treatment is a liability, it can kill you just as easy as the cancer. So they definitely will confirm before treatment
Yeah, my mom had breast cancer for a while and don't they basically pump you full of radiation to kill most forms of cancer?
Are you alright now ?
My father had polycythemia vera. It is a SUPER SLOW cancer. When my father was diagnosed 30ish years ago, it was called a pre-cancer. We don't even know that he died from that, and he'd had that or polycythemia (preceding it) for over 25 years. He died over a bunch of his systems just slowly shutting down over a period of 3 years, and they just called it "failure to thrive" as a placeholder for a specific diagnosis -- and they tested for a LOT of stuff.
If the doctor didn't TELL Boogie he has cancer, I don't think he actually does. I think he has the genetic marker where he MIGHT get it some day. And even if he DOES have it, the treatment for my dad was to literally take a pill and monitor it -- for DECADES.
The blood letting is for normal polycythemia -- which is too much red blood cells. That's NOT cancer, and you can do the blood letting at a blood donation center and it's free. (Again, I know this from my father's situation, the doctors, etc).
My sister has the genetic marker for polycythemia vera. She made me promise to mention it to my doctor, and my doctor and I agreed to have him list that as something to keep an eye on -- but NOT to do the test UNLESS I actually get a rising indicator in my blood tests to indicate polycythemia (which tends to come first) might be taking off. I'm 65 -- if I have to get a cancer, I'd FAR rather get that than any other cancer I'm aware of, as the timeline and the treatment would be a LOT better than any other cancer I'm aware of. The genetic test for it is expensive, so my doctor and I didn't even see it as AT ALL worth it if I'm asymptomatic. (OTOH, I never tried to make money via the internet in any way except managing my financial accounts).
So IMO, he doesn't have an actual DIAGNOSIS without a CONFIRMATION (that's why they CONFIRM serious test results BEFORE giving an actual diagnosis). Boogie is a drama queen and basically, a liar. He should be ashamed.
So as someone who has this stuff IN MY FAMILY, and so am likely at risk for it myself, that kind of behavior really pisses me off.
Also with issues that could be the result of cancer, they need to eliminate the possibility of other causes like that scene in “saved!” Where mary sees a lifetime movie and hears valarie burtonelli describe what could be the signs of pregnancy but can also be associated with cancer
There's also the issue that you don't make cancer diagnoses off of blood work alone. Blood work simply shows you theres a problem. You investigate further from there to figure out what's causing the problem. Blood work alone is not enough for a diagnosis and no doctor would actually do that.
@@Buddy330and biopsying blood is not expensive. It’s under $1000. It’s not like a liver biopsy. Doctors tend to biopsy most things they have to take out of a person. I had a cyst in my lip over a decade ago and it was biopsied to make sure it wasn’t cancerous
My dad has the same thing. I read it on his chemo pill box
boogie definitely has "failure to thrive"
Okay I'm in the medical field, polycythemia vera is a very slow progressing cancer and it's almost always nearly 100% diagnosed with a simple blood test marker called JAK2, if you have a positive JAK2 mutation you're almost guaranteed to have polycythemia vera, if he just could show a positive JAK2 test this conversation would be over, bone marrow biopsy is performed to see how much this disease has progressed he's lying through his teeth ...
My dad has this and what you wrote sounds about right.
I dont blame him for not wanting to show it to these people while they are being so rude to him but he could at least show his own stream sometime since they did basically donate for his treatment
XQC reading over his shoulder and smirking is the cherry on top.
Boogie is confirmed to be the depressing version of Eric Cartman
lmao on spot, i can hear him sniffing in a corner talking to himself
God damn, I'm using that. Its so accurate
If cartman wasnt funny and just fat
@@stonnyjboogie is funny hes just awful
Cartman is way more likeable
"They're trying to get my weight down" said 3 seconds after chugging Mountain Dew is WILD.
hes had weight reduction surgery and tons of dental reconstruction already... and they're STILL trying to get his weight down. I mean good for him for trying to help himself by getting these procedures done...but he lacks any follow through or backbone
Enjoy the drama while you can. People of this weight class tend to leave this Earth early 👼
HAHA.. was thinking the samething.
@@alemar1122 My mom had the same weight reduction surgery (gastric bypass). The surgery is only a first step, the second step is not falling back into your bad habits. My mom has not regained her weight.
its lost weight and gain. I feel it, i can lose 30lbs and gain it right back. in the same amount of time.
The difference is boogie has/had a lot of money at once. i would hired someone to watch over me like a hawk lol. You have one job.... Tell me stfu and slap food out of my hand lol.
As an older viewer, joining the platform originally in 2007, it really saddens me that Boogie simply didn't walk away around the time he split with his wife, it's been q constant downward spiral since then, the crypto stuff for me and most was the final nail in the coffin
"split"
you mean when he kicked his wife out since he "lost" 200 pounds with a surgery and considered her a 6/10?
The guy's always been shit.
@@HopeyDiamond Sorry for not spending the time to write out everything Boogie has done that sucks when I was already denouncing him
buddy i am as old, probably older, than you and trust me most stopped taking him seriously a long long time ago. it was clear he was a sympathy vampire if you subbed even for a short time, and even pragmatically speaking it just becomes boring to watch some fatty boombatty whine and beg for money in every video. i was out when he retired Francis because the real boogie is lazy and does nothing and never has to fix the problems he whines about. now he cut out the middle man and creates/worsens the problems himself; why wait for them to happen organically
Your account says it was made in 2014
@@padarousou "originally in 2007" you did your best
my ex-wife faked cancer TWICE and it affected our divorce and custody of our children so this is fascinating to me and im taking her to court for the years of torment our children and i went through because of her! Such a selfish narcisistic person to do this! seeing it in Boogie
My condolences
That´s just evil man. Sorry you had to go through that!
Sounds awful, mate. As a man who got out of an engagement with a massive, massive liar just last year, I sympathise.
Wow
Sending you a luck buff amigo🍀
XQC being there randomly makes this a million times better, meanwhile wings looking like an anonymous witness on a true crime show
Dude I totally thought boogie and wings were the same person
@@Eskoblazinpretty much
@@Eskoblazin I thought it was ReviewTechUSA but the voice didn't match 🤣
Maybe the whale is under the table
LOL. i used to watch wings, i feel for him now as most of the shit he did he actually acknowledged, unlike boogie
His next google search: how to give myself cancer
He's been trying to do that for decades
(and not die)
There is a South Park episode about that.
@@GlassDoorGuy well duh, south park knows all 😂😂😂
Stan: dad what are you doing? Randy: just getting a little bit of cancer Stan! (That Southpark episode where Randy puts his balls in a microwave to get cancer to get weed) lmao
I had cancer and I'm still fat. Granted, it was testicular cancer and they cut my ball out early.
Damn dude.
His name is Robert Paulson
rip ball. I salute you sir o7
Respect to you good sir.
As someone who had cancer, this shit is disgusting. And most of the time, if you have cancer shit moves fast once you know.
What was it like?
@Ayookd293 I got lucky. I got hodgkin's one of the most treatable kinds. But 9 months of keymo wasn't fun. The dying part was cereal, tho. I had about 1 week of waiting for emergency surgery, where I didn't know if I was going to die or what kind. All your loved ones start freaky out, but for me, there was a weird calmness.
Destiny is like someone who's on their second playthrough of a bethesda game and skipping through all the dialogue
What a G hey name for a dude
Bro is on his 98th playthrough of New Vegas lmao.
Until he started talking about anything establishment left-wing and I'm a Destiny fan.
Destiny looked up this one thing but destiny saying it's weird u have tests done 2 years later and it's not I have multiple issues and I have never stopped getting tests even after diagnosis u need to tests medical changes due to medication you need to see if medication is actually helping and not making it worse
@@Dangernoodlle can someone please check on godzilla??
There is no meaningful difference in privacy between telling people about your diagnosis, and showing them your diagnosis
Very well said
Especially if you're trying to raise money from your fans, you kinda owe it to them to let them know it's legit
@@julianofsatownand using it to justify scams
There definitely is. The privacy to keep boogies lie unable to be proven as a lie. 🤫
@@Insanity_Wolf Schrodinger's Diagnosis
Sigh boogie really became Francis irl..
a decade ago i was asking myself if francis was a character
the classic "it's just a persona" excuse, then it turns out the DR really was Disrespect-ful
(GET IT?! 🤡)
always was
I think initially, Boogie misunderstood his diagnosis then got it clarified but decided to keep running with the "I have cancer" guilt trip.
I doubt he's even seen a Dr since his surgery...
For sympathy.sad, but true.
This is my theory as well.
Cinematic master piece. Destiny being one step ahead the whole time, xQc making audience reaction, and Dan announcing the final result. Every part of it is just perfect.
I kinda wish Asmon kept the part where Dan boomered his way through the call trying to get it to work while destiny and XQC yelled at him for it, and later in the show when Dan accidentally re-joined the call. Their show "Anything Else" is entertainment gold!
Boogie doesn't have cancer AND HE WANTS everyone to believe that he is faking cancer because that is more lucrative and on brand than actually having cancer. as for the rest of these clowns, they're the usual suspects regarding fake cross community internet drama and it's even likely Boogie pitched them this plan. so yea, liars lie, and 'keemstars' 'keemstar'. this crap is the WWE and guys like boogie and edp are just the heels in the organization. stop being suckers thinking this stuff is real
There's actually an easier way to know if Boogie is lying.
He's speaking.
Underrated
I heard a similar proverb about drug addicts once.
I wonder what's going on here, like gambling, etc.
If Boogie told me water would quench my thirst, I wouldn't believe him.
And also yapping over someone else who's trying to talk sense into him, the good ol' "'LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALA!'
he might be worse then a used car sales men
Keemstar came onscreen like a WWE villain
I rarely comment on RUclips videos but this popped in my recommendations while traveling and was curious. As a physican, the workup of polycythemia vera (PV) does include a bone marrow biopsy if some non-invasive markers are suspect. This is from ACP guidelines, and of course management should always be tailored to each individual’s experience based upon physician practice and experience and shared decision making.
Indications for a bone marrow biopsy (BMB) is indicated if initial bloodwork may be borderline normal or if clinical suspicion remains high enough.
PV is a class of disorders called “myeloproliferative disorders” which is a fancy way of saying certain cell lines (myeloid cells such as platelets, red blood cells, etc) are higher than normal. There are many causes for these cell lines to be elevated, but PV is suspected when clinical history does not correlate with blood work. Blood with is typically aimed at evaluating for genetic mutation (JAK2) as well as testing hormones that are responsible for erythrocyte (red blood cells) production called EPO. All roads for PV do lead to BMB if these tests are either positive or within normal limits, or again when clinical suspicion remains high.
Typically the course of this disease is benign but can cause vascular complications due to abundance of cell lines. Sometimes, this may progress to another malignancy called “acute myeloid leukemia”. Treatment is involved in reducing the cell production (cytoreduction) especially if patients have had vascular complications such as stroke or heart attacks.
There is more to this but for brevity, please be kind to one another and have a good day ❤
This is why I rummage through the cesspool of comments. To find a genuine analysis of the topic at hand.
Thank you for your insight.
Man, he should watch Voidzilla (Coffeezilla) confronting Boogie on fake cancer payments. Boogie screams into the phone with, "I'M NOT USED TO THIS LEVEL OF SCRUTINY!"
Should've thought about that before scamming who knows how many and trying to get pity bucks for an illness he refuses to show evidence for.
RUclips content creators have been getting smarter and building up their content. Boogie struggles because he never grew or adapted as a youtuber. He is doing the same shtick since the late 00's. Hence why he is struggles while interacting with them. Kinda sad really.
Here's what probably happened based on how Boogie tends to lie. Boogie got bloodwork done, his doctor saw he had an elevated red blood cell count and told him he had polycythemia, his doctor told him this could be caused by polycythemia vera which is the cancer version or it could be caused by secondary polycythemia from his sleep apnea and testosterone injections, his doctor ordered sleep study done and more blood tests to determine which version is causing the high red blood cell count.
Boogie probably never got confirmation one way or the other because the bone marrow biopsy was too expensive. So the doctor said "look, we don't know for sure what the cause is, but let's treat the symptoms anyway". So they went forward with treating his high red blood cell count despite having no confirmation of the cause since the treatments are the same for both versions of polycythemia. Blood thinners, blood withdrawals, and blood letting.
That's where the truth ends and Boogie's lies begin. He felt like because in his mind he probably had the cancer version, that meant it was okay for him to state it as a fact. That's why he couldn't show the diagnosis for polycythemia vera because he never was diagnosed so there was nothing on his medical portal to show. There's probably a good chance he has polycythemia vera. So the bigger lie is actually him claiming he got a diagnosis when he never did.
So he's in a difficult position because he could get the bone marrow test done and it very well could show he has polycythemia vera. But the problem would be it would show the date of the diagnosis as 2024 which would show he lied in 2022. His best bet and the most likely thing he'll do is pretend that he misunderstood what his doctor told him back in 2022 and claim he mistakenly believed he had been diagnosed with cancer when in actuality the doctor said they would be treating his red blood cell count assuming he had the cancer version without confirming it since the treatments for secondary polycythemia and the cancer polycythemia vera are the same . But again, he lied himself into a corner by stating on the livestream that he was looking at the diagnosis page on his medical portal and claimed it said polycythemia vera.
I guess admitting you lied about being officially diagnosed isn't as bad as admitting you lied altogether so he'll probably cut his loses and take that out.
Well well well… looks like we got us an educated over here… STRING HIM UP BOYS! HE THINK HE BETTER THAN US!
Bro just needs to stop lying, make good content or lend into being a dick. Being an asshole is not great but it can be entertaining for a lot of ppl and he can profit off that at least. Hopefully with enough money he will try to lose more weight and keep it off, which then he can make content of again and make more money for a bit. Then change his ways or fake that he has change his way and some ppl will believe it bc he lost 100+ lbs and kept it off for a year and then from there he should hopefully be good enough to maybe retire or make C level content to keep views to make money to pay bills
@ihmen Nah it's not a miss understanding. It's a scam artist. Who gained a lot of people's attention and money plus God knows what else.
Are you a physician too?
solid logical explanation. thanks
I have Polycythemia Vera. It’s not a big deal and not cancer per se. I donate blood every 3 months, and take aspirin daily.
Donate? Doesn't it effect the blood directly? Is the blood safe for transfusions?
They have an excess of red blood cells so it's perfectly safe @@hotlemonade6643
@hotlemonade6643 I am extremely ignorant, buy my assumption is excess red blood cell production is a symptom. I do not think the condition is contagious through blood.
@@johne7850 Nope. It is not contagious. My biggest threat is clotting. If my iron is too high I have to do a blood draw that is destroyed. But try to make sure I’m well hydrated. And usually they try to get me to do a 2rbc donation. Which takes only red blood cells x2 and returns plasma and everything else to me.
@@hotlemonade6643 A simple way to think about it would be that it creates excess blood (more specifically the red blood cells are increased/more concentrated relative to the plasma, or liquid part of the blood) and you would need to remove some blood which cab be either disposed of or donated. The disorder is in the bone marrow (the insides of your bones where parts of the blood are produced) causing excess production, meaning that the end products of extra or thicker blood does not have the disorder and wouldn't be transmitted to others
"this cancers pretty serious" sips mountain dew 14:29 😂
Bro had like every big youtuber jump him and offer him thousands of cash to show them a piece of paper yet bro decided 'NOW IS THE TIME I WILL RESPECT MY PRIVACY AFTER MAKING A DOCUMENTARY EXPOSING MY LIFE THUS FAR'.
You know shits gettin real when Death's Door Metakor dredges himself up to say his piece.
And having his girlfriend pose half naked for his scam
He was willing to scam his fans to earn 10k citing medical bills as a reason but conveniently had principles against proving that he has the condition he claims to have for 75k.
I feel sorry for his GF. He is clearly just using her.
@@sparquisdesade Who is this metokur guy and why is everyone calling him a demon?
"Destiny cooks whole cow live"
Definitely a Lolcow
😭
@@solarydays Wake up
Destiny didnt just cook his ass he downright slaughtered that boy in front of the whole farm
@@solarydays Step 1 : Wake up Step 2: Refer to step 1
He said the "doctor ordered the bone marrow test to confirm" but then later it changes to Boogie wanting it ordered to "rule out cancer". Mark my words, Boogie will be live thanking god that his test came back negative and now he doesnt have cancer and the previous doctor was wrong and lay all the blame on the previous doctor...if their even is a previous doctor.
Also, you literally can't confirm PV without a bone marrow biopsy. And also, there are medication treatments for PV which he would be able to show bottles of, he isn't even aware that there is more than just therapeutic venipuncture etc.
Destiny already exhausted all dialogue options and reloaded a previous save file
Nothing here adds up. Anyone that knows of Boogie, knows that, 1) Boogie would NOT pass up on 50K+ USD to show a simple line of text, as he has done far worse, for much less money. 2) He would NOT pass on an opportunity to be a victim (which he would be doing, if he was showing everyone he actually had a cancer diagnosis) and 3) If true, at the time, it would have been a big f£$k you to Keemstar, everyone on the pod and the internet. An easy, 50K small W for Boogie.
He is lying through his teeth about this. His medical records are not that sacred.
Its crazy because wings' wife has cancer.
Metokur has cancer
And boogie lie to them with no ragrets
Yeah, guy took a boxing match for 10k and lost lol How would he not take 50k or even 5k just to show a printout?
It’s over like 120k rn
@RobAtkinson-wj4rc He IS 100% lying, it just doesnt make sense to scam people for 5k crypto, claiming he needed the money for his cancer, then later says it was for weight loss drugs etc. But doesnt want to proof he has cancer for the minimum offer of 65k? ( think it was higher than that later on) It just doesnt add up. Especially for someone like Boogie who sadly is sort of known for scamming his audience by baiting people to pity him.
Even his teeth are lies
The fact that he refused when the pledge reached a combined $85,000 and then continued to refuse from then on despite his avaricious nature is very suspicious.
He scammed his fans for 10k but showing a piece of paper showing the confirmation of his diagnosis is too much
Probably he think if he "lose" here, he will be investigated or something, or more of his audience leaving him.
That is proof enough for me. Who would turn down 85k for a piece of paper or showing medical portal.
Also it's not like boogie to give up an opportunity to try to get people to feel bad for him, if he could prove this he would just for the pity points
Avaricious is a great word. I learned something new today.
Not only would showing his medical records disprove he has cancer, it’d also reveal any and all medical issues he has (thus preventing him from lying about any other medical problems)
that medical portal only details cancer not other medical issues. it also has no doctor or hospital info
Probably no one will see this but I have a big thing to add about boogie that is kinda out of the blue.
I played Everquest with Boogie in 1999-2001. His character name was Uberwolf. He was a Barbarian Warrior on the Prexus server in Everquest. I only found out many years later that this is who that guy was. I still remember him from when I was playing even though he was not in my guild and I did not interact with him much but I still remember he was a person that was a big point of drama on the server. I have lost most of my memories of that time at this point but one specific instance I can still remember.
I was in Old Sebilis During the Kunark expansion around the year 2000. Uberwolf (Boogie) was just sitting at the entrance to the zone (in his full blue cobalt armor which was quite appealing to want to group with someone like that as he was very geared out) looking for a group and I believe he was not in a guild at this time after burning bridges with many previous guilds. I don't remember why but I do remember this player was considered toxic on this server. My group needed a Warrior(the only true tank of classic EQ back then) and I wanted to invite him but I was remembering I was told to avoid this guy. I do vaguely remember I did end up grouping with him because I had no other choice at that time and everything went okay but I also remember people asking me what I was doing grouping with that guy.
Hope you all enjoyed my story and if anyone from Prexus back in that day happens to stumble on this please message me :)
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As a medical doctor myself, I find it appalling that he'd claim that his doctor lied to him "for clout". What clout? You think doctors care about treating some self-proclaimed internet celebrity and see that as cloud? Nonsense. As for his treatment, he DEFINITELY, absolutely, without any shadow of a doubt, no matter what kind of cancer he has or may potentially have, didn't receive treatment for it for the past 2 years without his diagnosis being 100% known. The fact that he'd even think of making up such a claim says a lot about his intellect.
im a vet and i cant imagine that a bmb in a human is more complicated than in, lets say a dog (doggo goes home same day) and i cant imagine it being much more expensive, in a doge its about 500€ to 1.2k, its something that is safe and fast whitout much risk.
greez from germany
Yo doc, can i get your opinion on something?
Do you think that, sam sulyek is on TRT or some form of PEDS?
im not even sure what clout that would generate as dude has just few million subscribers.
Boogie is about as big a narcissist as there is (pun intended), and one of the things narcissists do is justify their own bad behavior by convincing themselves that everyone else does it as well. So Boogie hears "why would your doctor lie about this" and answers why _Boogie himself_ would lie. For clout, Boogie would lie about having cancer for clout.
@@absolutedegenerate2992 lmao what? Obviously
What I’m so confused about is wasn’t there an entire documentary already out for months about boogie explaining that he’s been doing these type of stunts for sympathy for years and now all of a sudden everyone is surprised?
Nobody is surprised. Everyone already has doubts about him having cancer from the start as it's a very Boogie thing to do. It's more like "Finally he's getting outed" because questioning a cancer patient feels morally wrong. Destiny's career will be done if there is very little chance that Boogie told the truth and he has proof of his cancer.
it’s just that lying about cancer is a new low even for boogie
no one is surprised - thats the point
No one is surprised that he's lying. We are disgusted he is lying about cancer.
No-one's surprised, they're just grilling boogie for content and he had it coming honestly.
My mother saw a Dr who said something could possibly be cancerous. It wasn't even close, she then posted a video to Facebook claiming to be "cancer free". This is the same type of psycho.
nah, cancer doesn't make you loose weight, whoever said it's because chemo does is right because after chemo, holding on to food is very difficult, you basically throw up most of it
Some cancers do. I've lost family to stomach and pancreatic cancer, both will cause weight loss before a diagnosis and/or treatment.
@@_goblin-_-mode_ you're right, I wasn't concrete enough, should've added "apart from cancers that give you severe stomach pain". sorry about that and sorry to hear about your family.
There´s also no way that Boogie wouldn't take the chance to disprove people like Destiny and Charlie. If he actually has cancer, he would show it, just so he´d get the moral highground for a bit.
Destiny with preptime is like Batman with preptime but in a filed of disputes
dont give him too much credit, his opponent is boogie
He's mid. You're just impressed easily
@@SiriusSphynx who's better? I wanna watch them!
@@SiriusSphynx For someone with no formal academic training, he is extremely impressive. I assume you're just butthurt by his takes
@@zzzMrgamerzzzyet still agreed to a open marriage no pre nup, broken clock right at least 2 times a day.
"I've been fighting cancer for TWO YEARS!", the manchild exclaimed with a full head of hair.
cancer doesn't make your hair fall out, the chemo does
@@tomgillman9555I’m surprised that the chemo he’s been supposedly taking for 2 years hasn’t made him bald.
@@wizardgaming6759 I didn't know he was doing chemo...but yeah if that's the case he should definitely have significant hair problems
@@tomgillman9555 He's either been on chemo, or he's been boxing cancer.
And I don't think my guy is a boxer.
@@FemNate lol
“Is this House MD” 😂😂😂
“Maybe my doctor lied for clout”
What clout could an Oncologist who makes 400k gain from Boogie of all people?
Damn, I studied for the wrong work 😂😂😂
"Is this House MD" lmfaoo
Goat reference, easily the best hospital/doctor show
@@FlipFlopGodIt’s great, tho the argument was that House is very inaccurate and Boogie thinks he’s in the show 💀
@@lothara.schmal5092 he knows that bro, why do you assume he doesn't, he just said it's the best doctor show.
@@Myhaay I didn’t assume, I added to the comment for someone who might not have understood or seen the show.
@@FlipFlopGod House Md is a joke overrated show the main character is a drug addict and he didn't lose the medical licence what a joke
Destiny is someone i disagree with on some topics, but i do respect him. A lot of peoplewoulfnt have called boogie out on this
This crossover episode was insane. The writers cooked with this one.
destiny explained people like boogie on his stream the day before and how they manipulate so he did actually know all the dialogue trees. He wrote all the notes on stream.
I've really enjoyed watching xqc getting closer to destiny.
As someone who watches them both they actually talk pretty often. Whenever X is watching something political he will call destiny for his input. For example they watched the trump biden debate together, israel palestine stuff, dr disrespect/age of consent topics etc
@@QMS9224I like this side of X a lot .. I like that he wants to understand and learn more. Until 2020 I knew 0 about anything political and looked into it as much as I could to understand despite being so dumb and naive .. it’s awesome seeing x like this and it is interesting
He is 100% enjoying watching a master debaters at work.
@Qdawwg I actually kinda wish that the DW would bring him on as a member of their crew. I know the idea sounds odd, but his perspective in their "backstage" would absolutely go viral regularly. Most people don't hear that side of dw, but it's their best segment and an intelligent lefty like Destiny would really be the cherry on top. He's just so good at holding intelligent conversations with intellectuals and keeping it interesting. I don't think they would allow it because he's pro abortion, but a boy can dream...
Destiny Vs. xQc dr.disrespect debate recently was absolute cinema
tectone has talked about wanting to come on Destiny's podcast, would be awesome if Asmon did an episode
Some doctors are able to recognize cancer without it being confirmed, but they certainly don't wait two years to have that checked out.
Not in the case of PV. Unless maybe if boogie was a healthy weight, not on TRT, not smoking, otherwise healthy then yeah you can speed up the process of getting the biopsy. But biopsy is required for PV.
Lying about cancer has gotta be an instant ticket to Hell if the afterlife exists.
Playing on people's empathy = pure evil
Nah hell doesn't want boogie thats an insult to the residents there
Boogie lies a lot im now convinced he made up his abuse when he was young
Well it don’t unfortunately
Actually lying about anything is...
Dang, so many cams on screen at once.
cows*
@@theveganpill8161moooooooooooo!
Watch FridayNightTights, it's twice as bad 😄
He has no print outs??? My dad is currently fighting cancer and he gets a new print out every 8 weeks when he gets his scans done. He basically is married to that printout because it has diet information, how and when he should take his medicine, what to do if he's feeling a certain way. I was willing to at least give boogie a chance but that one thing tells me everything I need to know
I could be wrong but they mentioned that if Boogie had a patient gateway he could check that. I get test results on my patient gateway.
@@wizardgaming6759 that's very true too.
There is no better person on the planet than Boogie to be labeled a "miserable wretch".
Bro why is it every time we see boogie it's always "I'm about to die I'm about to die." Like dude stop 😂😂
I mean.. he's not wrong. We're all about to die 😂
He loves being a victim. It's like his whole personality. I think people used to feel bad for him, and that's how he built his subscriber base, but now most people know what a bad person he actually is.
He talks like a 90 year old grandma
@@williamstufflebeam4285 XD if only he turned to god...he'd be a televangelist saying "The lord is calling my name- pass your offerings to my church can carry on" then when he gets a good chunk if change.
*poof*
"The lord has provided me a second chance at life, praise him"
The internet is one place where (like with spammers) I have to admit to want to see karma show its teeth now and again.
I guess it depends on how you were raised. My mother didn't even like to hear people talk about being very healthy as she didn't want to "tempt fate".
Then you have THIS guy...
Me: "Chef, what's for dinner?"
Destiny: "Fried Boggie2988!
Steak grill under boogie2988 charcoal
People being on the side of Wing of Redemption is wild
So he is on TRT and possibly has sleep apnea. Both can contribute to secondary PV. If the underlying conditions are treated ie. the apnea and stopping the TRT if possible the PV will go away since it’s being caused by external factors. If he won’t comply or can’t stop TRT they will give him low dose aspirin the lower the chance of clots and have him donate blood to keep the red cell count down. Secondary PV does not involve bone marrow issues and won’t progress to cancer nor is it cancer on its own. Primary PV is a bone cancer that can eventually progress to more serious conditions but that doesn’t sound like it’s what he has here. And doctors would not wait two years to do a bone marrow biopsy. I’ve helped do them within a few days of a presumptive finding.
The dude laughing constantly sounds like Jabba the Hut’s little creature
Lol
He has a name you know: Salacious B. Crumb. Show some respect for the creepy muppet who blew up on Jabba’s barge.
The fact that he laughs the most at boogie's answers. 😂
Better to have Fake cancer than real cancer. Always look at the bright side of life.
Golden comment
when he does get cancer no one will believe him
You are like those people who see the glass half full instead of half empty. Its a good thing.
Well, him not having cancer makes the world a worse place
Then don't scam your fans claiming cancer
When boogie goes full screen, it looks like a boss battle where Destiny is just carrying the party because he's done this fight 100 times already.
Best comment 😂
2 things that can cause secondary polycythemia.....obesity and smoking.....just saying
As someone who is in a similair situation as Boogie, I have Smoldering Myeloma which is like a pre cancer condition that may develop into Multiple Myeloma a type of bone cancer. I have blood tests every 8 weeks to monitor the levels of stuff in my blood, in the last 2 years I have had both a full body MRI and bone biopsy (from my spine it fucking hurt) but the difference between me and Boogie is I have letters and records of all this. Even my 8 weekly blood test paperwork shows the Smoldering Myeloma diagnosis, now since I do not have cancer I am assuming Boogie doesn't either because if he did it would be incredibly easy for him to prove it and the I am not showing you because why should I is childish to the point of being ridiculous.
I wouldn't show my shit to a bunch of pricks on the internet who could use it to dox, or do much worse, to him with it fuck that you'd have to be an idiot for that and what's worse is that these people are allllll violating his right to privacy surrounding his medical history by demanding and coercing him into it and pressuring this hard.
I don't even care if he has it or not it's irrelevant. Don't treat ppl like this
Was it a bone biopsy or a lumbar puncture? A bone biopsy in your spine sounds fucking brutal.
@@SamoIsKing Biopsy in the base of my spine and yes I have had better days!
The difference between both of you is that Polycythemia secondary to Hypoxia from his obesity, sleep apnea, and exogenous use of testosterone has minuscule chances of actually transforming into a full-blown malignancy. If anything, it's less likely to transform into Polycythemia Vera and, instead, some other blood malignancy.
Stay hopeful, stay strong- my mom is in remission after her fight with multiple myeloma in her spine.
17:48 i can confirm that, since my Aunt was fat like Boogie but after getting cancer she's very thin in just few months, not 2 years.
Thats not how that works it depends on the type of cancer but Usually what makes people really sick and thin is prolonged use of chemo Therapy My Grandfather had 2 types of cancer Prostate cancer that he beat and Than Leukemia that ended up killing him and he wasnt a skinny guy a death he wasnt the man he used to be but he wasnt fucking crack head skinny
Hope your aunt is doing alright, Paul.
How's your aunt now mate?
Yes cancer treatment is one of the best weight loss diets. Only medication that actually works.
Every cancer is different and has its own pathology, rather Boogie has or doesn't have a type of cancer, you can't compare your aunts to someone else's, all cancers are not equal. but I hope the best for your aunt.
Dude went from shooting infinite ammo into his foot to shooting the automatic mini nuke launcher from modded fallout 4 into the sky above him and having them drop on his head.
I had to praise Destiny, she came prepared.
The Internet is truly weird place
As a doctor who likes to consume bottom-of-the barrel content for years,i instantly knew Boogie was making up the whole diagnosis thing.First of ,while detecting polycythemia vera we look for a gene mutation (JAK2 to be precise) rather than a hormone(hes most likely referring to EPO whos levels can increase due to a myriad of reasons)
No doctor will make such a blunder of diagnosing polycythemia without checking for the gene mutation,that is literally the centre point of the diagnosis.Hormone levels are non specific contrary to what he said in the interview.
Perhaps ,hes so stupid he mixed up everything in his head and couldn’t repeat the argument his doctor made to him but in that case he would have just checked it right there on the doctors notes.He’s lying a 100%
I'm a doctor too. Why would he be lying. He could very easily have merged the JAK2V517F mutation and the EPO levels into "hormones", as laymen do. You don't know if he is lying or not, and saying you know for 100% is disingenuine and further adds to this pathetic witch hunt that we are witnessing.
Destiny is spewing nonsense continuously, saying things like "Are we treating a blood cancer without actually confirming it?", aiming at the bone marrow biopsy and aspiration. Which is, to reiterate, not needed for a PV diagnosis, only when JAK2 is negative, EPO is subnormal, and JAK 2 exon 12 is negative.
Does Boogie have a record of lying and deceiving? Yes. Does that mean that "he's lying a 100%" like you have said? No, not at all. Sharing medical records with Keemstar, as Destiny suggested, instead of GoFundMe, as Boogie proposed, is another level of absurdity.
Be very careful with what you are saying on the internet, Ayushmanz, because stating you're a doctor comes with responsibilities and fulfilling an exemplary role.
Small correction, a low serum EPO level has been shown to be more specific for PV than a high one. A high EPO would lean more towards secondary erythrocytosis. But I do agree he's absolutely lying about his diagnosis.
@@huntergagnon5019 im referring to what boogie is saying.Him implying he has the “hormone” in his blood likely means increased epo which is consistent with polycythemia due to non mutation causes.
Dr Soyberg here
When boogie said “blood letting” as one of his treatments I nearly lost it
What's funny to me, is that all this boogie drama that has been going on for years, consistently gathers so much attention from big shot youtubers it's insane.
Here you have keemstar, destiny, XQC, Asmongold, all these top tier internet creators giving the spot light to a guy that barely gets 30k views on a yt video.
It's so obvious that Boogie does this so that he can keep getting attention. And all these guys keep giving it to him.
Never thought I’d see the day where xqc, destiny, and wings of redemption would be in a video call together 😂😂😂
The crazy part about this situation is that it made me like both Destiny and Wings quite a bit more 😂
Guys you got it all wrong, what he meant is his zodiac sign is cancer 💀
This guy keeps sinking lower and lower like the boulder he is
soon hes gonna be bouldering with mundanematt
@slothvr5752 It is just a form of a scam artist. Are you not amazed at the skill that is required to pull it off in the first place before they get caught
@@schustererik83oh yeah had already forgotten all about that dude
The bigger they are...
Mr Borrelii doesn't fuck around does he?
its the law they give u a physical copy
Can’t watch a video where I have to hear destiny talk
Destiny is always prepared and Boogie is always dragging his fat knuckles
lost my mom in February to Cancer, faking cancer is ridiculous
So sorry❤
Wings is just standing in front of the camera ominously at one point, wordlessly, as though he were asserting dominance
Plot twist, Boogie IS the cancer.
24:02 Destiny literally has pen and paper in hand. That's how you know you're f*****
No; Destiny isn't nearly as smart as his audience would like to believe.
Cough cough; every non simp telling him he shouldn't have an open relationship; it doesn't work, him saying it does, and then his wife leaving for some clown of a person.
He routinely makes bad decisions; he just rationalizes them without any push back.
@@RoganBitsI dont like destiny’s political opinions, at all. But he is actually a smart guy
@@RoganBits
Jessie, what the hell are you talking about? What does any of that have to do with this situation with Boogie or his overall intelligence?
Halfway through the video, just to clarify the criteria of polycythaemia vera from WHO in 2017. You have greater criteria and lesser criteria.
Among the greater criteria are: high haemoglobin (more than 165 g/L in men, three way hyperplasia of bone marrow and specific genetic mutation.
Lesser criterion is one and it's lowered erythropoetin (hormone that stimulates the making of red blood cell in the bone marrow).
To get a diagnosis, you need either 3 greater criteria or the first 2 greater criteria and this one lesser.
B U T
If haemoglobin is more than 185 g/L in men, DIAGNOSTIC TREPANOBIOPSY OF BONE MARROW CAN BE WAIVED WITHOUT EXCLUDING THE DIAGNOSIS.
The fact the he won't show a single piece of paper is the biggest sign, once you're in the medical system for something like cancer, the papers don't stop.
Sometimes you can judge a book by its cover.
No one would argue about this that had cancer. You would just show the results of the tests.
yup, he treats it like an excuse to demand attention and candy from strangers
I had an ex that argued JUST like Boogie. Time after time, I would catch her in numerous lies and tear it apart with facts and logic, and she would STILL fight me just like he is doing. They both get defensive and blame others but never take responsibility for themselves. Listening to him brings back all those memories...
I have cancer. I'm really offended. Cancer isn't anything like what boogie is talking about. Everything he is saying is gaslighting.
One small side note - there are forms of cancer that can cause increased levels of EPO (the hormone 'marker') - those could include kidney cancer, liver cancer and a few others.
That said the way Boogie has danced around everything in this entire debacle makes it pretty unlikely that he's been diagnosed for these things, otherwise he would've been in treatment already. Considering the timeline of events Destiny is on the right track and Boogie is likely blowing these tests out of proportion to get more money from followers.
Source: I''m a physician
I'm sorry, I can only trust you if your girlfriend plays video games blindfolded.
This Stream is such as Legendary lol, We have XQc, Destiny, Mudaha, Papa Jim, Nickoreo, with CoffeeZilla as Easter Egg lol and I guess DistinyFomo?
I don't think I've seen stream that have this much of the internet drama-ish celebs before?
Wait, Destinyfomo was on here too? lol
She offered him a free flight to Florida. A paid hotel or he could stay at her house and she'd take him to Disney world. There was a whole pot of almost $85k to prove it. Muta offered $50k and everyone was putting in money
@@MrMrTravman Right!? For me it made stream even better lol
It's like Avenger but Internet drama celebs lol
This entire interview is really annoying and Destiny's line of questioning/reasoning is somewhat flawed and doesn't prove that Boogie is lying. Likewise Boogie may not be wrong either but he may be dishonest. I don't care about the drama but here are the facts because no one on that panel knew what they were talking about exactly and just making annoying flawed accusations (so you can decide for yourself):
1) Does he have polycythaemia secondary to obesity/hypoventilation? Possibly.
2) How to tell primary from secondary? There are screening blood tests to check EPO levels to help distinguish primary polycythaemia from secondary polycythaemia. If EPO levels are low, the person may have polycythaemia vera (PV). In the case of PV, sometimes you do further do blood genetic tests for mutations that fit with PV.
3) Is PV a cancer? Not per se but it does predispose to certain blood cancers.
4) Does everyone with suspected PV need a bone marrow? No. But sometimes you do a bone marrow to look for precancerous states. Bone marrows can very well indeed be considered AFTER PV is diagnosed based on blood tests.
5) If you have secondary polycythaemia do you get a bone marrow? No. Almost never do a bone marrow in secondary polycythaemia.
6) Why not just show your medical record to prove you're not lying? Because why should you? Breaching your own medical history is a stupid liability. You can run into insurance and employment problems and get targeted and harassed at the very least. Vindicating himself by disclosing his medical record is not worth the risk. And even if it was, people have already decided he's lying. So again why should he bother exposing himself further.
I disagree with Destiny about a lot of things, but I respect the fact that, unlike most leftists who solely rely on appearing moral, he actually does his homework.
Even though his homework is sometimes wrong. It wasn't here though.
"theyre trying to get my weight down" brother, YOU need to try n get your weight down
This sack of sh*t is so eerily like my ex girlfriend, even when faced with the most obvious lie they'll continue to defend themselves because the only place the truth exists is in their mind and you can't read that, so they'll gaslight the hell out of you and defend something which no reasonable person would agree makes any sense.
Even refusing to show his medical records because of "privacy" is outrageously nonsensical given the person he is, he just doesn't have what he's being asked to give and uses a false narrative to justify it.
Had same bro.
It's not their fault compulsive liars have done it since they were young generally to do with abuse I have lied a lot in life to make things easier but never about cancer
I was thinking the exact same thing. His eyes are doing the same thing my ex used to do when she lied too. I can't really explain it, but when he talks normally his eyes are more shut, but when he starts bull shitting his eyes go wider/glazed over almost
Vulnerable narcissism and compulsive lying is the worst to deal with. Glad you got out bro.
Your ex 500 pounds?