S. Korea, Japan, China summit: What's NOT on the agenda? | DW News
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- The leaders of South Korea, Japan and China are gathering in Seoul ahead of talks aimed at improving relations. It's the first trilateral meeting between the three neighbors in more than four years - and there's much to discuss - with trade, climate change and disaster response all on the table. However, the official agenda doesn't include discussion around North Korea's nuclear program or China's territorial dispute over Taiwan and the South China Sea.
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00:31 Journalist Frank Smith reports from Seoul
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Peace is better than war.
Better to fight than live under the CCPs jackboot
China challenged the US so the one thing you're not going to get is peace.
US: objection!
Peace was never an option
The USA not happy about this 😂😂😂😂
This is the most myopic DW report ever. Ukraine and Taiwan are not the issue here. It's trade and economic relations. I wish the three countries well in their discussions.
Yep. Ukraine is actually a sovereign country whereas Taiwan isn't..
Exactly, talk a lot but say nothing.
Yeah. That's exactly what I thought. DW is so obsessed with Ukraine and Russia to the point that DW thinks every region in the world cares about European issues. Delusional
You're really naive or you're being purposefully myopic yourself
Nothing will work out because US is standing between them and divide the trilateral free trade. The talk will continue for another 20 years.
Better relations between the three is absolutely important
Yes! Whatever or Whenever it going on well if Li Qiang would likely not represent as elephant in the room.
Oh they're not going to get better.
Nice comment.
why would three neighbouring nations each with thousands of years of history sit down ONLY talk about what USA with 200 years of history want them to talk about?
what are you talking about? either you didn't watch the video or english isn't your primary language.
@@jedi10101 i perfectly understand and agree what the OP said
Therefore, China only sent a prime minister, and for the affiliated countries of the United States, Xi does not need to appear.
It doesn't matter if we were a million years old we're 🇺🇲 the most powerful so we make the rules.
the whole world with ten thousands years of history talk about things USA of 200 years let them talk
It doesn't take a geopolitical expert to understand the following:
1) Discussing Taiwan with China is not how you "improve relations" with China, which is why it is not being discussed at this summit with the goal of improving relations.
2) It's misguided to think that North Korea listens to China, especially on issues regarding its nuclear program, which China agreed with the US/West to sanction during Bush Jr. and Obama. Russia, on the other hand, has supported North Korea's nuclearization, and as such, is arguably closer to North Korea than China.
Interesting, it does actually require some geopolitical interest and North Korea watching. 😊 So you think China has no or little influence? They have been propping up the regime and sponsor it with trade deals. But you think that NK is rogue towards China as in like Israel is not containable by the US that props up that regime? How would we know? Just really curious, because NK is such a wild card (and therefore a flashpoint)
@@nextinstitute7824 俄罗斯和朝鲜堵住了中国东北的出海口。
@@nextinstitute7824China has trade deals with all of its neighbours, not just with North Korea. China is largest trading partner of Japan, South Korea, India and probably all of its neighbours. Naturally all of them have to talk, including about climate
I think you are a bit off on CN-DPRK relations. Yes, China isn't exactly happy about their nukes, but that's because they have an actual military alliance with each other, and China doesn't want to risk nuclear escalation on its borders, especially if the PLA is involved in the fight.
Russia also supported the sanctions.
I don't think there are significant differences in the quality of relations the DPRK has with either China or Russia.
There is the aspect that western sanctions against Russia have allowed Russia to be a bit more public about their relations with Korea. China has supported them significantly too, they are just not very public about it.
You are inciting a wedge to incite hatred among neighbors. No one asks about your monarchy
No point discussing things that will go nowhere. At least talk about things that have the potential for a positive outcome.
China can make a decision the only problem is Japan and South Korea can't make any decisions without their husband USA
Any dialogue is better than nothing.
My same thought. They discuss on things they can agree on and advance. Security discussion can take place elsewhere.
An official from Seoul’s presidential office said North Korea-related issues “are difficult to resolve cleanly and quickly in a short time”, so the summit will focus more on economic cooperation.
“A joint declaration is currently being discussed,“ he said, adding that Seoul would try to include security issues “to a certain extent”.
That IS actually what they're trying to do. you don't need to say the obvious to try to sound smart
As long as US not interfering the situation, an agreement shall be reached
We 🇺🇲 are not interfering we are the ones that decide what will be and what will not be.
@@TacticalMayo that's the definition of interfering brother
Three ministers in Hatoyama's Cabinet have had "car accidents" and "committed suicide" because of their promotion of the Asian Free Trade Area (FTA), friendship with China, and East Asian integration. Abe did the same thing in his first term, had his office searched by the Special Search Department and stepped down. As the leader of the LDP, Abe continued to push for "national normalisation" even after stepping down, and we all know how that ended for him.
What a terrible discussion!!! No wonder DW is clueless.
The last thing US wants to see is peace in East Asia, with China, Korea and Japan working together.
Not to worry. China will never allow for peace
S.korea.japan start to leaves America alone now this both countries wake up from sleep they now know which country are good to them America will harm their country and his people China treats them like 1 family's
Well, i don’t think so. I think the US made a huge mistake that led to the fall of Japan's democratic team at the term of 90’s as a Consequence, we face the worst possible case Chinese Communist Party grows like this.
Due to the US military presence in Japan and South Korea, and the fact that the US essentially considers Japan and South Korea to be affiliated countries, this kind of thing will never happen
peace are for women
Unprecedented USA Hypocrisy
Dw news causing tensions as always.
Only when they do geopolitics. They do a fantastic job when covering science technology and climate.
What a strange remark. Don't you have any idea regarding the tensions that are building up in East Asia? And that is now the fault of ... the journalists reporting about it 😳
@@nextinstitute7824
The Mid-Range Capability missile has landed in Luzon, Philippines, marking the first deployment of the new capability deemed vital for the U.S. Army's strategy in the region.16 Apr 2024
Able to deliver nuclear to every ASEAN city and also China city.
@@nextinstitute7824 the empire is escalating tensions in Asia
@@nextinstitute7824
😰It was written in U$ Foreign Policy document, to keep Asia poor and divided.
China considers Taiwan its own territory. Why does DW expect China to seek the opinion of Japan which defeated Qing dynasty China in 1894 and colonized Taiwan for 50 years?
Those countries should have a say in the pacific not usa or the west..but usa controls 2..
@@jerrellholder8382 it's not about east or west, it's about China being too strong that it will win every argument with every other east and south east asian country.
@@SIR_RR😂 what Liberty of CIA is doing in China 😂
@@SIR_RR Japan has carried out multiple massacres in TAIWAN。
Taiwan has the right to self-determination and has governed itself since the 1950s.
I wander what do the DW editors think when they read the comments ?
It seems most viewers do not agree with them😅😅😅
I mean no one would care considering that RUclips is American social media and they are on our side.
They will think that China employs so many bots and trolls.🤣🤣🤣
Former U.S. President Carter issued a statement in 1978: "The United States recognizes the government of the People's Republic of China as the only legitimate government of China. There is only one China in the world, and Taiwan is part of China." Major countries should abide by their commitments and respect history and facts.
Hmmm what about the history and facts of China spending the last couple decades poking at the US with unbelievable levels of hacking and IP theft, overseeing an unprecedented rise in military spending, overtly threatening to take Taiwan by force and deciding that the entire South China Sea is all yours and nobody else's and openly threatening the Philippines, a US treaty ally that we are obligated to defend... This mess is entirely of your own making.
Hmmm what about the history and facts of China spending the last couple decades poking at the US with unbelievable levels of hacking and IP theft, overseeing an unprecedented rise in military spending, overtly threatening to take Taiwan by force and deciding that the entire South China Sea is all yours and nobody else's and openly threatening the Philippines, a US treaty ally that we are obligated to defend...
Did you just deliberately misquote Carter? He said the US 'acknowledges' not 'recognises' the PRCs position. Or did you simply watch the CCPs edited version of his statement?
The weakest president ever.
@Doochos
The word acknowledge also means accepting fact. Also, under USA pressure Taiwan was kicked out of UN and China was given Veto power. Same token world also acknowledge that Puerto Rico is part of U.S. territory. Taiwan needs to declare its independence in order to show that they are truly a nation.
West: you three must discuss Chinese inner affair during the meeting.
Who is the west? The Netherlands too? No news agency in the Netherlands says they must discuss Taiwan issue during this meeting. Besides, Taiwan produces chips for all over the world so it affects many countries. This means it's not just inner affairs. But yes there is no point discussing it if no positive outcome could be expected imo.
Arams: you three must discuss Chinese inner uigur prisioniers camps
Bingo
it hasnt been a purely internal affair lately for a long time
West: billions of people with independent opinions. Western leaders: Hoping there are is not another Ukraine situation in east Asia. Pretty sure the whole world wants to prevent this.
If those three ones get together like EU, it will be tremendous
They talk about themselves rather than talking about someone else. What's wrong with that?
Fun fact:
😰It was written in U$ Foreign Policy document, to keep Asia poor and divided.
February 24, 1948, Declassified U.S. Foreign Policy:
Furthermore, we have about 50% of the world’s wealth but only 6.3% of its population. This disparity is particularly great as between ourselves and the peoples of Asia. In this situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security. ... that Japan and the Philippines will be found to be the corner-stones of such a Pacific security system and that if we can contrive to retain effective control over these areas there can be no serious threat to our security from the East within our time.
Taiwan was added to the Pacific security system after Chiang's army retreated to the island of Taiwan in 1949. South Korea was added after the Korean War in 1953. The attempt with Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia was abandoned in 1975.
@@happymelon7129 Why does the us admit to the worst stuff 50-60 years after it happens lol
@@memeconsumer773 read more books about "Declassified" lol
@@happymelon7129 if you see the US as a provider of security and good business, then there's nothing wrong in that. Lol
Correction: it's to keep communists at bay. 🤷🏾♂️
Nor does it include discussing American meddling, historical and ongoing, as the sole cause of regional instability.
West: China, leave Taiwan alone!
Also West: France, do what u want with New Caledonia.
Okinawa has more independent legal principles than Taiwan. Please let Japan and the United States let the Ryukyu Kingdom go first.
False equivalence. New Caledonia is French and has voted to be so several times. Taiwan has never been part of the PRC and do not wish to be part of it. While the French may want to retain its empire, the CCP wants to expand it through conquest.
@@DoochosYou dont create a country from a province because you dont like your government.
@@ensiyeitu1012 The Taiwanese ROC government has existed longer than the CCP, who are a successor government. The ROC haven't created their own government.
Ok just wait until when you will become the king or God of the whole world first 🤭🤣🤣😂😂
Why is the West concerned about Taiwan and the Chinese sending in troops into their own province? I see no military alliance preventing France from sending its troops to New Caledonia.
@@Takeawayking971 New Caledonia are also against France. But France sent its troops and no one objected. So, why against China sending troops to Taiwan?
I am not in favour of using force either, but it is something both sides need to sit down and discuss without external interference.
Not the same thing. New Caledonia has never controled it's own police, military or politics accept for some local stuff. And they dosen't have the history of having the French government in exail do they? I don't say that France is doing the right thing but it's two different situations.
@@kbboy101the different is new caledonia is under french control and have local government in new caledonia but for taiwan, china didn't control mainland taiwan and taiwan had their own government and armed forces which china have to deal with if they made attempts to send troops to Taiwan.
Taiwan is not a province of the PRC and never has been. New Caledonia is French and has voted to remain French several times. Completely different situations
@@Takeawayking971we are also not interested in your French government in New Macedonia.
Maybe DW as a Germany media should ask why they don't discuss how German send so many weapons to Israel to do the genociding
Japan and South Korea would be wise to improve relations not just with China but with Russia too. Not because of war or peace but because of economics. What does America have to offer other than war and destructive progressive ideology? They need to think of their future, cheap energy from Russia and favorable access to Chinese economy is a no brainer.
2024-5-24 Spokesperson for the United Nations Secretary-General (Stéphane Dujarric) stated that on issues related to China, in compliance with Resolution 2758 adopted by the United Nations General Assembly in 1971, "Taiwan is a province of China."
Where did DW found these 2 jokers ?! 😂
CIA agents
Without the US nodding head, guess South Korean and Japanese politicians can only talk about some economic and trade issues with China on the table 😅
Yes ! Because they are US Colony’s without the SOVEREIGNTY.
Is there freedom of speech in China?
China does not have "territorial disputes" over Taiwan.
Yes they do because we 🇺🇲 say so.
What's not on the agenda was probably the purpose of the meeting. Now the Cat is getting curiouser and curiouser.
Mind your own business, DW.
You should do the same considering this is a United States 🇺🇲 social Media platform
You should do the exact same thing considering this is a United States social Media platform
@@TacticalMayowhy are you so mad
This is literally DW's business.
@@TacticalMayothis technology is not born out of us brain but process of millions of people's tireless research
Please note the three countries are discussing "trade" as there're so much involved & integrated.
The US loves war war war war
Russia started the war and China is provoking another
The only countries threatening to start a war in that region are North Korea against the South, and China against Taiwan
S. Korea, Japan, China summit: What's NOT on the agenda?
Answer: UFO?
Europeans trying to drive in a wedge to incite hatred of neighbors
You can always get off of RUclips, I mean it is American 🇺🇲 after all.
China drives wedges against its neighbors on its own accord, then point to other countries when they are called out on it.
@@TacticalMayo u can stop buying stuff made from Asian country and stop using advance technology , its china after all
US is standing between trilateral relationship, US had been very successful to divide East Asian countries. I think the discussion trilateral free trades will take another 29 years to materialize.
Some talks is better no talk.
Wrong, the 3 parties did touch on the peace and security of Korea peninsula and denuclearization. Go read the joint statement issued after their meeting.
Stop Asian Hate.
you'll have to ask the CCP to stop it as they're the main instigator
Why do not the Chinese shut down Taiwan when the EU and US were still supporting Ukraine?
because they can't
Double standart💀
Because regional security is not at the top of their list. Their economies are top priority
DW You can't speak of elephants and not mention America the biggest elephant in all these geo political tensions..... 😊
Who decided to challenge the United States world order and global dominance? Well everyone knew what comes with that and everyone knows how we are. So now the world is going to reap what they sow.
They did mention the US...
Embarrassing huh
Appreciate the dialogue between the Asian countries who are neighbours and will remain so. Nations will have conflicts to varying extent, but it's important that they engage in dialogues to work on the common areas of interests. Especially as the West, led by USA, wanna take Japan n South Korea to their side in countering China for the Western interests.
The Asian giants have quite a lot in common with each other and could have mutually beneificial relation in many areas right from commerce, technology, energy, healthcare et al. Obviously their is a long history of conflicts that cast a mighty shadow but how long are we gonna carry with that. You gotta co-exist in this planet for years to come.
I sincerely wish the relations between China, Japan and Korea gets better from here on and that they are wiser to challenge the Western ploy to drive the nation's into conflict.
我们愿意与韩国日本谈，美国愿意让韩国日本跟我们谈吗？这么多年来一个结果都没有，是谁在后面远程操盘
Tai......No! nothing! I don't know who make those chips. Don't penalize my social credit.
Who the h…… sets the parameters for these discussions. Why even bother. Just a waste of time
China: stop discussing/talking about Taiwan with any other countries ; it is utterly China's internal affair.
The Northeast Asia Free Trade Area that China refers to refers to China, Russia and North Korea. Now Japan and South Korea are getting anxious.😂😂😂
where does this elephant say come from? US?
US is an elephant outside the rm.
That elephant is creating troubles all over the world
The sky is blue. Sugar is sweet. We need oxygen.
NATO: time to ask Japan and South Korea to join us.
You serious? China is leading the sanction toward N.Korea. Or N.Korea would have thrived like Russia.
"An official from Seoul’s presidential office said North Korea-related issues “are difficult to resolve cleanly and quickly in a short time”, so the summit will focus more on economic cooperation.
“A joint declaration is currently being discussed,“ he said, adding that Seoul would try to include security issues “to a certain extent”."
Asians are pragmatic.
But we 🇺🇲 are not.
The USA do not like this 😂😂😂😂😂
you're workmate said US created this. which is true?
I think we should rename China to "West Taiwan" after this is all said and done.
3 neighboring countries are meeting to discuss their business, none of the West business. West isn't to be telling them or even express concern, what to discuss in that meeting.
Maybe we, the east should start attending EU meetings. 😂
Of course, the security discussion will not be in the agenda for a obvious reason: US is not there. What’s the point of discussing security, when the main perpetrator is not in the room?
As a reference for German, think about one day Bavarian said: Bavarian and the Bundesrepublik are independent from each other. I would imagine a liberal society like German will happily accept this proposal.
Why making Time to see each other to talk about other countries affairs??? Why so busy body. Concentrate on tje relationship between 3 of this countries first..
With China? Why?
Because China wanted to talk to them about microchips. Did you see that's the thing South Korea and Japan did not reach out to China.
LOL
Great gesture 👏
they also watched three dolf lundgren movies together...
“Internal matter for them”; that’s how Philippine foreign affairs minister described the Chinese military drills around Taiwan province. The West should catch up.
I want to say Chinese, Japanese and Koreans should united together! Stay peace and support each other, not fight and manipulateed by west
1:00 If the US will butt out, there will be not regional security issue. Stop interfering into others issue and stop making others to interfere on your behalf. That should be the agenda.
Not including the taiwan issue in the trilateral talks renders most of the peace talks as just pretentious. In any case of an attack by the chinese military , forces from Japan, south korea will be the 1st to respond and counter. Tensions will only reduce if you share and negotiate with your politcal positions and obligations related to the regional security , but the chinese bots may think otherwise.
Taiwan is non negotiable for China, its Chinese territory and unresolved issue of Chinese civil war, I do think China is interested in discussing Taiwan with a third party like it has to get permission of some sort to exert its sovereignty rights over Taiwan.
The three neighbors that absolutely hate each other!
These three countries hardly can cooperate,.China, Russia and North Korea can Very likely cooperate.
@@pumalee1997 Yup, none of them will give an inch in any kind of negotiation so why even bother with the summit .
How can you have a succesful summit If regional security and promoting international peace is not on the agenda as well.
It's a waste of time and effort
There is little or none to be acheive on this so called meeting
We discussed it.
the three countries are needed for each other mutually in the terms of economy. if they can form an economic organization in the far east, then it will be good for the global.
It will not be good global.
@@TacticalMayo what kind of global is good? a global lead by the Europe and US?
@@pipiqiqi4010 exactly lead by the US as it's been for a long, long time or Armageddon ☢️
@@pipiqiqi4010 by the US
100年後も1000年後も全ての国が平和な状態になることは無いだろうね。
まぁそれまで人類が存在してるか分からないけど、平和を望みます。
China is the elephant, Japan is the care giver for elephant. Korea owns Zoo.
but then who is the monkey from the room? Or where is The Zookeeper
You jumped the trap of DW. With this title, DW implicitly complains that China is bullying the other two countries regardless this is an equal discussion or not.
Focus on food and water security? Climate change Means food production and farming. This affects health. Besides just healthcare per se.
North Korea , Russia and USA not going to be happy about This 😀
*"You will never become a Westerner!"* cried from the top China's 🇨🇳 diplomat Wang Yi
shows how desperate the Chinese regime is,
when its two strong neighbors, *Japan and South Korea,* cooperate with the US in imposing chip restrictions on China.
Lol 😅 but China still rising
he speaks truth, Japan and S.K will never become a westerner. The reason now the US treat them as allies is just because of the very existence of China. And I think you know this not well.
so u become a westerner? congrats
@@frankpolycarp3306Rising? Where have you been living? under a Chinese commumist rock? You don't even know basic information.
cia bot 😂😂
China doesn't want to discuss internationally what it considers as their own internal affairs…
poor DW
Elephant in the room? It's called the United States of Israel...
Ignoring elephants tends to make them bigger...
That being said, this is Asia... What appears in the public (front) is often not what appears privately (in the back)...
So, hopefully those elephants will be spoken about and address, so issues can begin to be addressed and tensions can ease...
Which far away country is forming military blocs targeting certain country in the region? Which country has 300+ military bases surrounding another country with island chains to contain the other country for decades? Who gives such a country such rights as selling weapons and stationing troops in another country's recognized territory.?
Does Japan have a debt problem?
Does USA own that debt?
Can increased trade with China help with that debt problem?
I think Washington forfeited any influence or leverage anywhere on the world stage a while back 😮
Japan debt problem is the most deep and bizzar of the world.
@@jianyang6281 tbf they have the best history of repaying those debts, this is why they are still getting loans
Relations will never get better.
China: don't
Japan: say
Korea: pales-censored
🙈🙊🙉
For East Asians, they communicate a lot through travel, culture exchange, and trade. The three countries also share same confucius value a.d same philosophy to religion.
A nice question is that who is Winnie the Pooh?
Why isn't Biden in the room?
Bro. Allies of the US... It's a no return deal
The elephants 🐘 🐘 in the room are Taiwan and the Philippines.
Witch food serve in summit
中国+日本+韩国＞美国+欧盟
South Korea's flag is so badass
Your face is so badass too 😂😂😂😂
It’s based on Chinese I Ching ( yin yang) symbol and Chinese trigrams, with colors modified. It is a very interesting choice for a flag. I respect S Korea’s choice and think they are fun choices, and just want to point out the roots of the graphics.
My Asian line is traced back to 3 Asian origins. China, Japan, and Korea.
These three conutries did attempt to deepen the corrporation in the past decades. But everytime when they moved forward, the korean or japanese political circle was suddenly in chaos... I mean it is clear that the western, not only the US, don't want to see an united asia. Japan and Korea are two of the leading countries in high technologies and China has the world largest industrial capacity. A union of these three contries can be a dominate power over EU and US. I don't think the western is willing to see this...
China requested for this summit to beg for Japan 🇯🇵 and South Korea 🇰🇷 for leniency on chip restrictions.
People have low expectations for this summit.
😂
Chinese are doing just fine developing their own chips. Give them time and they will surpass Taiwan.
Hello,@next,last, forever Cheng 😂😂
BoT
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china with their handcrafted 5nm chip 🤣
😂 What no one is talking to China.
For NA G-7, usa is the elephant in the room.😂
Anyway, I am totally deaf for any RUclips news channel.
Winnie can't be there. He's up a mountain searching for bee hives
Who is the elephant? USA.
USA is He who must not be named.
Geno joe
North Korea, Taiwan, and Vietnam should also be invited to this summit.
lol why 😂 coz they all look same
please say why?
✊Free Japan and S.Korea from U$A✊
✊Free Germany from U$A✊
France Macron: You are only vassal state if someone else allows to establish military bases in your territory.
Why should North, Taiwan and South China sea be on the agenda? After all , those are US' concerns for geopolitical reasons and and maintaining politics at home, keeping Americans busy on issues that have no economic value. They should focus on what concerns them economically, after all that is where they all benefit.
CCP aggression is a concern to all it's neighbors.
Hopefully West and East Germany can regain their independence soon.
S. Korea and Japan are geographically close to N. Korea. If they are concerned about long range N. Korean weapons that can reach the US miiltary bases, (Okinawa, Guam, Pearl, even mainland US) then they are concerned about US interests. My guess is that China is going to try to talk Japan and S. Korea into looking it their interest not the US's interest. China is both Japan and S. Korea's biggest trading partner. And neither has challenged Taiwan's or the SC sea status like the US has. The US however has great leverage over both S. Korea and Japan with the possibility of economic sanctions.
China is close as well. does it want nuclear activity on its border?
The only reason why Japan calls out to resume this trilateral summit is a typical "weasel greetings" (黃鼠狼給雞拜年). After all, being a guard dog of the very top master in Asia, they have to play the same manipulative game to show their loyalty and matching capability.