Hello! I studied Kenpo about 20 years ago in New England. The picture at 0:25 - I recognized him right away. Sensei Crossan. It seems you and I studied at the same school, SMAC. 🙂
@@BlackSunBoxing probably! That would have been about when I started, I was 2 years out of college at that point, went to UNH and lived in Dover for a couple years. I got up to 3rd brown before I left. I've been out of state now for almost 20 years. Small world! I am testing for the equivalent of black belt in the Kung Fu style that I take now, in a couple of days. Wish me luck! I saw a while back that SMAC closed down. I know Sensei Kevin had sold it quite a long time ago.
Wow this takes me back. Studied Cerio’s Kenpo Jujitsu around 1997 under Sensei Angelo Olivera who was great. Only met Nick Cerio once or twice at our dojo but it was still an honor, and was sad to learn of his passing and the collapse of the schools. Fondly remembered, though. Thanks for sharing this video!
For a guy who doesn't do them regularly, they look okay. I can see how the Cerio system used the Okinawan/Japanese forms but put a Chinese Kung Fu twist on them. So I like the idea of the combined influences, and it's hard to get a complete showing of these kenpo forms thank you for posting.
On my journey through shaolin kempo, Villari system. As I was preparing for black belt, I’d wear 10 lp ankle and wrist weights and do all 5 pinions and 5 katas every day 5 times each. Hell of a work out.
As a Shoto Ryu practitioner and Shaolin disciple, I notice that 1 is Kihon Kata Ichi, 2 is a hybrid of Kihon Kata San and Incense Shop Boxing, 3 is a variant of Pinan Sandan, 4 is a variant of Pinan Shodan, 5 is a variant of Pinan Godan all with the bunkai different. I would encourage you to watch how these forms are practiced by Japanese karate masters to see if you can find any applicable things you can use in your journey, such as generating power in the movements. Good job!
Thank you. I have definitely looked at some. There is always room for improvement. If we think of kata as models, then we must admit the maxim, "All models are wrong, but some are useful".
Nice forms.. usually all shaolin kempo system have the same belt system you put purple for pinyan 2 it should be orange at least that how mine was? My purple belt was after orange this was also when I was allowed to wear a black gi.
Thanks! "always" is not a very accurate term in the world of martial arts. That was straight out of my student hand book, and the progression I learned it in. We used orange belt to review and tighten up pinan 1. I was also training this in the mid-late 90s, so maybe things changed. But we did do the black gi at purple.
@Where-is-Nemo my shoulder is doing ok now. New pain on the other shoulder, though...did you see that I put up 1-6 kata, and the blocking sets? I still have to make time to do the last couple of forms. We just got the gym up an running again after having a fire at the old location and having months of trouble finding a new one. I'm really happy to hear you're revisiting the old material! Good luck!
As some one who did these same katas it's silly that the very last move is slow pull and chop. It's a genital attack. In no way is it a slow grope and gentle chop. Awesome forms and execution btw! Crisp movements and form. You killed it.😊
I started with the same Shaolin kenpo. I excelled fast but then my granny made me get out because my grades were dropping which sucks because martial arts teaches you discipline and how to control your emotions .I am now 37 and want to get back into it so bad.
If u don’t mind me asking I’m pretty sure with Kenpo u base ur style on a animal correct but why does it just have to be an animal though couldn’t u base it in something else like a bullet or some king of weapon just a question
That's a fantastic question. The reason Shaolin Kenpo uses animal forms is tradition. That could certainly change, but people don't like to change. Yes, you absolutely model your techniques after other things, and that does happen from time to time (knife hands come to mind). And I do reference bullets and ballistics a lot when I teach. I my opinion, imitation is not the best path to follow. We are uniquely human and have our own special attributes. I think referencing other things is just a way to communicate abstract principles.
@@BlackSunBoxing Oh and by the way what do u think about people who practice the kenpo knife my Dojo teaches it and I walked by it a few times and I just want to know ur opinion on it
As long as the training is progressive and you have the chance to try it out in sparring, I think it should be fine. But because I don't know the teacher or the school, I can't be any more specific than that. Remember, styles don't win fights, fighters win fights.
I’m afraid I’m a bit confused! You allege that you trained under the late: Professor Nick Cerio?! But I always believed, that Professor Cerio, trained under the late Ed Parker! And his brand of Kenpo Karate: ‘American Kenpo’? And if so, why do these katas, look eerily similar to the ‘Heian Kata’, that I trained in Japanese Shotokan Karate?!
Allow me to clear up some confusion. I trained in Prof. Cerio's lineage. I was a couple generations down from him, I didn't train directly under him.. Nick Cerio was never a student of Ed Parker. He trained with Parker a little bit when he would go out west, but Nick Cerio learned kenpo from George Pesare. These kata are indeed borrowed from Shotokan. Nick Cerio learned several styles of martial arts over his lifetime, and he felt kenpo lacked some structure, so he added these basic kata to the curriculum to serve that purpose.
i know american kenpo is different from karate but i'd like to give you some constructive criticism. your gedan barai and chudan zuki has a disconnect in your shoulders. these moves generate power through the torque in the waist. it looks like you're relying on only arm power.
@@BlackSunBoxing mistakes be a part of life man. even the most seasoned masters can make a mistake in their kata. i just figured saying something to help will only help build up your skills even further because you do demonstrate good foot work and i love it when people can progress even further. i'm practicing every day trying to nitpick my own kata in hopes of being even a little better than i was the day before. :)
You can think of it as a cousin. My Sensei was under Nohelty and Bryant. Robert Nohelty and James Bryant are ranked under Nick Cerio and George Pesare directly, while Villari came up under Nick Cerio's Brother.
@@BlackSunBoxing Robert Nohelty and James Bryant were both under Fred Villari, I had a school in NH when they were still with him in the 80's. Steve Demasco was also with Vilarri, he was promoted to 9th by Nick Cerio. But thanks for keeping up on this
@@BlackSunBoxing I watched as it fell apart. Nick Cerio put together the first 26 combinations and felt there was enough in the forms. Villari added the rest, but the forms were not taught to their full uses. Have you watched Jesse Encamp? He has a great background in Karate and work with other styles. Worth running through his videos, but here is a video on the bunkai in Karate forms, some common in Kempo's. ruclips.net/video/8PtYD_6W7BY/видео.html
Hello! I studied Kenpo about 20 years ago in New England. The picture at 0:25 - I recognized him right away. Sensei Crossan. It seems you and I studied at the same school, SMAC. 🙂
Yep! I moved away in the summer of 2000 for college, so I must've just missed you.
@@BlackSunBoxing probably! That would have been about when I started, I was 2 years out of college at that point, went to UNH and lived in Dover for a couple years. I got up to 3rd brown before I left. I've been out of state now for almost 20 years. Small world! I am testing for the equivalent of black belt in the Kung Fu style that I take now, in a couple of days. Wish me luck!
I saw a while back that SMAC closed down. I know Sensei Kevin had sold it quite a long time ago.
Awesome, and good luck!
@@BlackSunBoxing thank you, sir. 🙂
Wow this takes me back. Studied Cerio’s Kenpo Jujitsu around 1997 under Sensei Angelo Olivera who was great. Only met Nick Cerio once or twice at our dojo but it was still an honor, and was sad to learn of his passing and the collapse of the schools. Fondly remembered, though. Thanks for sharing this video!
You're very welcome!
For a guy who doesn't do them regularly, they look okay. I can see how the Cerio system used the Okinawan/Japanese forms but put a Chinese Kung Fu twist on them. So I like the idea of the combined influences, and it's hard to get a complete showing of these kenpo forms thank you for posting.
Thanks for the kind words.
On my journey through shaolin kempo, Villari system. As I was preparing for black belt, I’d wear 10 lp ankle and wrist weights and do all 5 pinions and 5 katas every day 5 times each. Hell of a work out.
Nice, thanks for sharing!
As a Shoto Ryu practitioner and Shaolin disciple, I notice that 1 is Kihon Kata Ichi, 2 is a hybrid of Kihon Kata San and Incense Shop Boxing, 3 is a variant of Pinan Sandan, 4 is a variant of Pinan Shodan, 5 is a variant of Pinan Godan all with the bunkai different. I would encourage you to watch how these forms are practiced by Japanese karate masters to see if you can find any applicable things you can use in your journey, such as generating power in the movements. Good job!
Thank you. I have definitely looked at some. There is always room for improvement. If we think of kata as models, then we must admit the maxim, "All models are wrong, but some are useful".
Hey, I just noticed that our martial arts journeys started at the same time! I started in SKK at United Studios in April 1995!
Small world!
Nice!
Very clear techniques, good foot work. Good job
Thank you!
Nice forms.. usually all shaolin kempo system have the same belt system you put purple for pinyan 2 it should be orange at least that how mine was? My purple belt was after orange this was also when I was allowed to wear a black gi.
Thanks! "always" is not a very accurate term in the world of martial arts. That was straight out of my student hand book, and the progression I learned it in. We used orange belt to review and tighten up pinan 1. I was also training this in the mid-late 90s, so maybe things changed. But we did do the black gi at purple.
Excelente!!!
I have been looking for video of the shaolin kenpo forms! Any chance you can post the other forms up to blackbelt?
It's on the list. I injured my shoulder shortly after filming this, and just haven't gotten back to it since. I'll get to it when I can.
@Where-is-Nemo my shoulder is doing ok now. New pain on the other shoulder, though...did you see that I put up 1-6 kata, and the blocking sets? I still have to make time to do the last couple of forms. We just got the gym up an running again after having a fire at the old location and having months of trouble finding a new one. I'm really happy to hear you're revisiting the old material! Good luck!
As some one who did these same katas it's silly that the very last move is slow pull and chop. It's a genital attack. In no way is it a slow grope and gentle chop.
Awesome forms and execution btw! Crisp movements and form. You killed it.😊
Thank you! And I definitely agree about the speed change.
I started with the same Shaolin kenpo. I excelled fast but then my granny made me get out because my grades were dropping which sucks because martial arts teaches you discipline and how to control your emotions .I am now 37 and want to get back into it so bad.
I hope you find something soon! And if you're ever in the Phoenix area, come stop in for a class.
If u don’t mind me asking I’m pretty sure with Kenpo u base ur style on a animal correct but why does it just have to be an animal though couldn’t u base it in something else like a bullet or some king of weapon just a question
That's a fantastic question. The reason Shaolin Kenpo uses animal forms is tradition. That could certainly change, but people don't like to change.
Yes, you absolutely model your techniques after other things, and that does happen from time to time (knife hands come to mind). And I do reference bullets and ballistics a lot when I teach. I my opinion, imitation is not the best path to follow. We are uniquely human and have our own special attributes. I think referencing other things is just a way to communicate abstract principles.
@@BlackSunBoxing Thx u for this information I’ll try learning this knife hand and mix it in with my kick boxing have a great night
@@BlackSunBoxing Oh and by the way what do u think about people who practice the kenpo knife my Dojo teaches it and I walked by it a few times and I just want to know ur opinion on it
As long as the training is progressive and you have the chance to try it out in sparring, I think it should be fine. But because I don't know the teacher or the school, I can't be any more specific than that. Remember, styles don't win fights, fighters win fights.
Are you teaching shaolin kenpo ???
Not currently. Just keeping the rust off my history.
Outstanding brother! Much respect! Osu!
Thanks!
I’m afraid I’m a bit confused! You allege that you trained under the late: Professor Nick Cerio?! But I always believed, that Professor Cerio, trained under the late Ed Parker! And his brand of Kenpo Karate: ‘American Kenpo’? And if so, why do these katas, look eerily similar to the ‘Heian Kata’, that I trained in Japanese Shotokan Karate?!
Allow me to clear up some confusion. I trained in Prof. Cerio's lineage. I was a couple generations down from him, I didn't train directly under him.. Nick Cerio was never a student of Ed Parker. He trained with Parker a little bit when he would go out west, but Nick Cerio learned kenpo from George Pesare. These kata are indeed borrowed from Shotokan. Nick Cerio learned several styles of martial arts over his lifetime, and he felt kenpo lacked some structure, so he added these basic kata to the curriculum to serve that purpose.
Thank you
You're welcome
i know american kenpo is different from karate but i'd like to give you some constructive criticism. your gedan barai and chudan zuki has a disconnect in your shoulders. these moves generate power through the torque in the waist. it looks like you're relying on only arm power.
Sure, maybe I made a mistake. Thanks.
@@BlackSunBoxing mistakes be a part of life man. even the most seasoned masters can make a mistake in their kata. i just figured saying something to help will only help build up your skills even further because you do demonstrate good foot work and i love it when people can progress even further. i'm practicing every day trying to nitpick my own kata in hopes of being even a little better than i was the day before. :)
Is your system the same as Fred Villari's?
You can think of it as a cousin. My Sensei was under Nohelty and Bryant. Robert Nohelty and James Bryant are ranked under Nick Cerio and George Pesare directly, while Villari came up under Nick Cerio's Brother.
@@BlackSunBoxing Robert Nohelty and James Bryant were both under Fred Villari, I had a school in NH when they were still with him in the 80's. Steve Demasco was also with Vilarri, he was promoted to 9th by Nick Cerio. But thanks for keeping up on this
Yes, they had left and distanced themselves from him by the time I started in '95. I didn't even hear the name Fred Villari until years later.
@@BlackSunBoxing I watched as it fell apart. Nick Cerio put together the first 26 combinations and felt there was enough in the forms. Villari added the rest, but the forms were not taught to their full uses. Have you watched Jesse Encamp? He has a great background in Karate and work with other styles. Worth running through his videos, but here is a video on the bunkai in Karate forms, some common in Kempo's. ruclips.net/video/8PtYD_6W7BY/видео.html
I do watch Jesse, yeah. I like his openness. Thanks for sharing. Professor Cerio was a Treasure. I never had the chance to meet him, but what a mind!
Theres only one mistake you made. You're too good looking. Hehe. Kidding bro, great job. Looks great.
HAHAHA! Thanks.
i knowe kenpo we get beat up if we did a form ;like that