ONDU EIKAN 4x5 Large format camera Kickstarter update 3
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2024
- Here's a another long update explaining the current status in the ONDU workshop regarding the production of the new ONDU Eikan 4x5" Modular large format camera.
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You have a beautiful company there. Your humility and honesty speaks volumes. As an engineer I know the pitfalls of a project like yours. You have done great things and anyone looking for a new 4x5 would be insane not to purchase this outstanding piece of work…. Just brilliant 👊🏻
@@alfredmongleton9077 sorry for not responding to this sooner. Thank you for the kind words it means a lot to see my work being acknowledged especially by someone in the similar industry and who knows the ups and downs of this kind of work. Thank you, Elvis.
I’ve been looking for a camera for a while and after watching this video I knew because of your passion and dedication to your art that this is the one I want. I applaud you. I’m really excited to use this camera and thank you for this video.
@@jmilamtx thank you for your support ❤️ it means a lot to me, that people can see the effort that went into this project. I'll be making a longer video explaining the whole timeline so all of you can get a behind the scenes look of the whole concept to creation 🙏
Fantastic. You are an incredible artist. Thank you for your efforts!
Hi Elvis, thank you for your updating video. You are as real and human one can be, I loved when you became emotional and showed your feelings.
The Eikan looks spectacular and even better than before. Yes, it will be a top-class camera, no doubts. Again, thank you and your team for your wonderful job. Very well done. I am looking for to get my hands on mine and take beautiful pictures with it. A camera that inspires me to take even more pictures. Cheers my friends from Slovenia. 😀❤
Thank you friend, thank you for the kind observations, I'm sure it will fit right in in Portugal, it's actually where I tested the first 3 Eikans last year:)
Oh man, you poured your everything into this camera. I cannot wait to see it myself!! 😊
Pouring my everything is a very accurate description of this project. Thank you for noticing this detail, I really took it upon myself to make it exactly how I envisioned and that all of you will be blown away with the actual camera! Thank you again it means a lot!
Feeling so much gratitude and love for you
Thank you Lins
Hey Elvis - I really wanted to participate in your KickStarter - I didn't have the cash for it at the time but I really TRULY believe in you and your product.
I've followed all your updates and your work ethic, passion, challenges and patience with everything that's happened so far is absolutely saintly.
I'm sure you feel guilty towards your contributors/pre-orders and are under massive pressure - but it is ABSOLUTELY the correct decision to take a break and come back fresh, and you're doing it for the right reasons; burnout is real and losing you out of the camera-making-sphere would be an unfathomable blow to the film community.
Take care of yourself on your break. Take care of yourself, your family and your team.
We love you man.
It means so much to me for you taking the time to check my work and respond with your thorough observations on how you perceive my story on making this. As you mentioned about burnout it happened once before and it literally took years to get back on track and almost ending this camera making work. This time I was trying so much not to make the same mistake but they still do happen. I'm on day 1 of my break now and I can say I feel much better already. So I'm pretty confident when I come back we'll hit the ground and finish this endeavor. Also this last sentence brought a tear to my eyes, it means so much, thank you! ❤️
Hi, so great to see someone so honest. I just heard of the project for the first time, but now I really consider buying one of the cameras once its available to order :) so great to see someone like you in the industry!!
Thank you for the kind words, it gives me so much drive to continue doing this. It has been the hardest projects by far and felt discouraged for the future of it at points and seeing positive reception and another perspective like yours is just the right dose of inspiration to continue doing this with joy.
This brings back memories. This modularity was just a dream, decades ago, when I used a field view. Just a dream.
The modularity came by accident from the way I envisioned the body of the camera. I'm glad to hear that this was on someone else's mind In the past:) I know I'm not inventing anything new in the grand scheme of things but I do believe it will have a place with the modularity I have now in my mind. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.
Wonderful, all the challenges will make for a smoother future as you grow and wondering how i missed your kickstarter 😢. All the best 😊
I remember your Kickstarter for the pinholes cameras, respect.
Thank you ❤️ means a lot!
Kudos for updating and allowing yourself and your team to take a break when needed. There's no point in overworking yourself. I just put in a pre-order for a 4x10 (so I haven't been waiting for to long), and of course looking forward to it. But a month, year, week or whatever extra won''t matter in the great scheme of things.
Hello Elvis! It is very exciting to see how you put so much passion into your work, I would love to have one of these cameras not only for the quality of construction but for the level of detail and mastery with which they are made. From a third world country with a very broken economy I send you a hug and I promise that I will do everything in my power to get one of these cameras, I love photography and I want to do large format one day I hope soon
@@kalicond thank you for the kind comment ❤️ I hope once there is more stability with this project to gift a few cameras around the world so that various photo communities can use them. Like a community shared camera ✨
Hi Elvis, another great update on the camera! Your passion shines through in your texts and in the video, showing how you tackle all the work. Don't let the difficulties discourage you; it's going to be an amazing camera, and I'm really looking forward to working with it.
Thank you, comments like yours give me so much to keep on going even though it's gets difficult at times. We are at the very end this is the most important part and I'm finaly pleased with the functions and details of the camera. Looking forward to shipping it ❤️
Hey Elvis! Thank you for sharing all of this, and especially your heart. I can really feel it in how you talk about it and how you showed the camera too.
Reminds me of Ferry Porsche who said ‘I could find the car of my dreams, so I built it’ - I think the same can be said for all of your cameras, and I really appreciate it.
Also, sorry about the allergies. We’re coming to the end of that season here, but it’s miserable. Take
Care of yourself!
Cheers!
Good European Craftsmanship ... My Grandfather was a fine cabinet maker , and I grew up around Wood ... I love good work , Sir ; I am so happy for you , and your small company . Thank you for sharing ... I will indeed consider a camera from your shops. Christopher ... enjoy beautiful Slovenia too Sir. 🙏🏻💪🏻 ...
Thank you for the kind words means a lot, I'm trying my best to make everything as close to home as possible also don't work with exotic wood types onyl what's available in the local area. Slovenia is a beautiful country but like I said in the video I need to get out for a week or two because of hay fever somewhere to the coast where my allergies disappear:) really appreciate your comment!
What you’re explaining is my job. I work in supplier quality.
I'm glad the per-orders will be going out in July, that gives me a little more time to get my camera money built up to order my camera in a couple months!
You and your team, get some rest. I've worked the same schedule as you have been working. It wears you down.
Best wishes.
Thank you for the kind words and support, I was so worried that people would think that taking a rest when things need to be done wouldn't understand. But like you said it, probably I ain't the first that went through such a rough patch and it in fact relatable. Thank you again ❤️
I think that most large format photographers are a more patient group. We understand longer and more precise processes, much like printing in a darkroom. 😊
Hello! I just received this and am excited to try it out. What lens do you happen to use?
@@markmasanque5526 hi Mark I primarily use the Schneider Kreuznach 180mm for my portrait stuff. It's not the highest end of the lenses but makes completely usable results for my purposes. Let me know if you need any other assistance.
That seems pretty nice camera (and not too expensive either). More details on front locks and movements would be nice to see. I wonder if there is a single knob for rise and axis tilt or if it has base fron tilt. I think separate lock of front rise and tilt is essential to keep two adjustments separate. (some may not agree on that though). No photo on the website either shows which one it is.
A combined shift/swing is not such a problem as there is no weight of lens like with tilt and rise.
Oh, that looks so nice. I'm so tempted to order one!
Unfortunately no seperate movements on the front standard as of now, it might happen in the future, there are mixed camps when it comes to this particular feature. Base locks up to 90° so no forward tilt either, and as you guessed it the base has a combined shift/swing. There is possibility due to the nature of the construction for extra rear movements as well, but this camera all by itself is already a handful to deal by myself at the moment. If the format and model gathers momentum in the future, I will try to cater to the needs of photographers like you and adapt as we improve our production processes. Thank you for the input and kind words, means a lot! Elvis
nice presentation, but at 21:44 that tab is called a "bail Back" design, not many 4x5's have this (my SINAR F2 does, in it's own quirky way); but 8x10" does, why?... All should, it's a nicer experience, but one NEEDS to make the bottom shelf such that the film holder sits on with a TACTILE feeling, so even with the bail opening the GG 1/2" or more, you can't make the holder fall off the ledge, so exposing a slit of the holders' film area to the open air ( or worse, cocking the film, hence a focus issue as the film plane isn't plumb).
nice finished article, beautiful wood, and metal finish, looks all but an EBONY RS 45 , a fantastic aesthetic and build. PS: an idea, for the future, how about some gun metal or titanium parts?, would realy make a collectors item!!
Thank you for the clarification and for teaching me something new in the process, I have a new word to add to my vocabulary. I think most camera makers omit this since the springs needed to hold a 4x5 sheet film holder are less strong usually than those for 8x10, this would be my assumption. Thank you for the kind words, I would assume if this camera takes hold in the already pretty filled market of camera makers that there will be future special builds with various wood types, bellows and materials like Titanium or similar, but first things first. Finish this batch and see what the photography community will say about it in real life. Thank you again for taking the time to listen to me talking and for your observations. I really love reading comments like this.
Hello Elvis, fingers crossed and all the best for this your beautiful business. When Standard Eikan ordered today, when could it be shipped?
Thank you, I think the pre-orders will ship together with the Kickstarter backers so around 2-4 week of June, depending on the amount of pre-orders that still come through in this time. I've acounted for some stock in the first batch. Thank you for the kind words!
Lovely 4x5. Do you make the tripod you use?
@@Darl-df7rx thank you for the kind words. At the moment not yet, maybe in the future if there will be any demand since there are already a few quite proper manufacturing companies for wooden tripods out there.
Ordered!
Hey Elvis! I've a question about the camera: what kind of lens board does it take? Like linhof compatible, Sinar, etc etc or else?
Also, I see you've mentioned the fresnel lens with the ground glass, will you produced them also? Or I have to find them on my own? Thx again
Hi the cameras lens boards are linhof boards compatible. I will be producing my own lens boards at a very reasonable price point from black anodized aluminum. The only question still to consider in the future is whether to keep the 2.25mm thickness of the Linhof boards or make them 2mm which would make them significantly cheaper, and doesn't bind the final users to only proprietary linhof lens boards which to my understanding are a finite resource. Another thing that bothers me personally with Linhof style boards which has a recess on the back is that this makes the camera front a bit less light proof if we don't make the front components of the camera in a similar fashion, another troublesome think with a lot of Linhof boards is that they are often off centre which means that if you use their boards the cameras zero will not actually be zeroed. As for the fresnel at the moment this is standard issue with all cameras rhat I make. Probably at later stages it will be an add on option. I'm keen to hear your thoughts.
@@ONDUCameras thanks for your response.
I'm very interested in this camera project (I'm also a owner of a Ondu 6x17) since I'm looking for a small and light 4x5 camera to bring around. As you mentioned, it's not easy no find Linhof leans board around, so I hope I can 3d print a compatible model.
Look forward to hear exciting news about your project, good luck!
Looks awesome!!
Thank you 🙏
Great!
Does the lens come with the cam?
@@Leberkasbepi unfortunately lenses are out of my reach in terms of manufacturing and designing. So they are usually sourced online by the buyers usually via ebay for relatively cheap.
Wow , no other words.
Appreciate it, thank you for your support! ❤️
😄👍
Tenho um sonho de poder comprar uma câmera sua, mas minhas condições nãome permitem, moro no Brasil e além do preco ser em dólar somente as taxas aqui no brasil superam o preço da camera, ou seja, se eu consigo pagar a camera, não consigo pagar as taxas, fico chateado pois suas cameras são maravilhosamente lindas e confiáveis. Meu sonho é poder fotografar com uma camera sua.
Abraço desde o Brasil.
Buy cement mixer..proper grit - and polish your own edges off smooth!! (Might work..might be cheaper....🤣
@@rossmansell5877 in the end we got a good supplier that resolved much of the issues here. And the future variants might even get a powder coated finish instead of sandblasted/anodized treatment. :)
Hi there, in land of Prevc's 😸⛷️
I've been in the state of doing too much, trying to meet these hard goals, and, day after day, more than 10 hours, your productivity and work quality drop off dramatically... You can do one 16 hour day, but it really takes two to three days to recover!!
These problems with subcontractors are just deadly, and must have been really, really tough to "suck up", especially after the first run went so well.
Big congratulations on getting to this point, the parts I see look lovely!
Greetings from a guy with too much experience 😆 a 🇨🇦 in 🇩🇪