How does Carnatic Music have 16 swaras? | VoxGuru ft. Pratibha Sarathy

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  • Опубликовано: 28 янв 2025

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  • @sharmisai
    @sharmisai 4 года назад +47

    You are not only a gifted singer, you are also a gifted teacher.

  • @UmamaheswariRajendran
    @UmamaheswariRajendran Год назад +4

    Im an adult, started learning music. Your lessons are awesome and an eye opener. Far away from conventional teaching...radical and Revolutionary. Thanks a lot.

  • @efronclenanil3485
    @efronclenanil3485 5 лет назад +31

    This is how a teacher should teach Mam.... Well done... Thanks for the lessons

  • @tgsriram6149
    @tgsriram6149 5 лет назад +6

    I was so averse to Carnatic music because I thought it was boring, and the concepts were difficult to understand. Your videos are phenomenal and you explain the concepts so clearly👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Wish I had access to your videos 10 years ago! Many thanks for doing this to all of us. I also like how you integrate movie songs with Carnatic music.
    You do have a beautiful voice! Look forward to more of your videos.🙏🏼

  • @divyaramesh6197
    @divyaramesh6197 2 года назад +3

    I cannot believe I learnt varna and Kriti in childhood without knowing any of this 🥺 Glad to revamp on my lost hobbies and looking at them from a fresh start.

  • @poornimajd645
    @poornimajd645 5 лет назад +19

    What a clarity explanation
    Hats off
    Thank you so much

  • @jalajasankar6369
    @jalajasankar6369 5 лет назад +12

    Pratibha!!!! u r a Good teacher . Beautifully explained.Thank u so much.🙏

    • @VoxGuru
      @VoxGuru  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks a lot!

  • @ivatigerfox2548
    @ivatigerfox2548 5 лет назад +84

    Seven notes in the scale
    Twelve tones as a whole
    Sixteen names in total
    Got it

  • @Elizabeth-vh6il
    @Elizabeth-vh6il Год назад +2

    This is a very good explanation. Thanks.
    I'm trying to figure a few things out.
    a) Is there some kind of music theoretical or physics based reason behind why M only has 2 possible choices or varieties while R, G, D and N each have 3 varieties? Would it sound bad if you tried to invent an M3 or is it simply that no masterful musician has ever demonstrated such a raga in the history of the tradition?
    b) I'm assuming the reason that P doesn't move is because it's always a perfect fifth above the root note S and the perfect fifth is special in Carnatic music just as it is in western music because of its stability (because the frequencies of Pa and Sa have a 3:2 ratio and so the only thing that reminds us of S more strongly than P is Ṡ which has a 2:1 ratio)?
    3) I was wondering if you ever use any different modes of these scales, such singing from R to Ṙ instead of S to Ṡ? (Although the fact that there are already lots of choices for R, G, M, D and N already creates a lot more variety than it's possible to get from the 7 modes of the 2212221 pattern which is used to generate the western major and natural minor scales.)
    4) I saw another one of your videos where you showed how the ascending scale can be different from the ascending scale. But the examples you gave only differed with respect to how some notes out of the 7 notes found in the parent raga could be omitted either from the ascending scale or from descending scale or from both (as well other melodic variations like zigzags). Then I came across the Khamaj from Hindustani music which has N3 in its ascending scale but N2 in its descending scale. So I'm guessing that maybe this feature is something that distinguishes Hindustani and Carnatic music? And I'm wondering how many of 7 tones can potentially have different versions in the ascending and descending sections? Is it like western classical music where the ascending scale and the descending scale only vary from one another in certain controlled and limited ways which came about because of certain specific reasons, such as when the harmonic or melodic minor is used when ascending up the scale but the natural minor is (within the classical tradition) always the variation of the minor scale which is used when descending downwards? Or would even the most extreme case be permissible where all 5 of the variable notes differed between going up and going down?
    I confess that I'm ignorant about much of the qualities of Indian music. I think I'll take the time to watch the rest of your fabulous playlist and try to grasp the basics first. Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos. The quality is excellent. I was actually originally trying to learn western music theory but I have a habit of keeping asking questions like, "But why is it this way?" and, "But what would happen if we took these rules to an extreme, beyond what's typically done (in the western classical style)?" And I seem to keep accidentally landing upon concepts from Indian music.
    For instance, I thought about how a 6/8 time signature is commonly thought of in terms of two groups of three beats and then I wondered about how one would go about breaking down a number like 11 beats into smaller pieces. And this led me to a Wikipedia article about angas and tisra dhruva tala via first watching ruclips.net/video/80K3pQgTIvU/видео.html (about an Armenian artist) and ruclips.net/video/OyyfLtYQcwI/видео.html (about Indian rhythm).
    And now I'm interested in trying to "fully" understand scales and I noticed that in the western system it's the case that having two adjacent scale degrees which are 3 semitones apart is not so common. Western composers invented the harmonic minor scale which contains one of these (2122131) but then they considered the new larger jump which they'd introduced to be a problem that they needed to fix by creating the melodic minor scale (2122221). But I stumbled across the double harmonic scale which has two 3 semitone leaps (1312131) and I think it sounds nice. Also unusual in western scales are situations where three adjacent scale degrees occupy 3 adjacent semitones. The double harmonic and the Neapolitan scales (1222221) each have one of these but neither scale is common. But then I accidentally hit upon ragas and the existence of these 72 patterns and when these are expressed in terms of patterns of semitone intervals they often contain 3s or a run of three consecutive 1s (1321113 = ) or they have not zero or one but sometimes even two separate runs of two consecutive 1s (e.g. 3112311 = ) which western music really shies away from. Of course western music became obsessed with chords even from quite an early time period and when working with chords the choice of which notes to put into the scale affects not only the voice leading qualities horizontally but also the consonant or dissonant qualities which emerge from the intervals which are present because of how the polyphonic voices are stacking in the vertical direction too (a source of complexity which came about at the expense of having less sophisticated ornamentation such as little by way of pitch bending or glides).

  • @homecameraroll
    @homecameraroll 5 лет назад +2

    What a articulation of complex subject in a easy way !! Superb...! Enjoyed other carnatic course videos of yours too..! Quality video watching..! God gifted talent..!Thanks..!

    • @VoxGuru
      @VoxGuru  5 лет назад

      Thank you! Happy that you find it useful!

  • @josephyagappan1896
    @josephyagappan1896 4 года назад +1

    My doubt lasting for about more than a decade about these 16 swaras ( in piano only 12 keys are there.. hence 7/12 swaras can be clearly understood) cleared by your explanation.
    Thank you very much...
    Please keep it up!!

    • @arslanpower
      @arslanpower Год назад +1

      It is somewhat similar to western.. for example in c# scale.. f is called e# because there is f# as well in the scale

  • @Raagvaishnaviofficial
    @Raagvaishnaviofficial 4 года назад

    I love the way u explain ma'am... very clear and specific... thank you so much 😇🙏

  • @mahadevaniyer2726
    @mahadevaniyer2726 Год назад +1

    R3 /G1 are between R2 and G1 and ditto for D3/N1: Sadharana Gandharam is not so ordinary after all: Please check and confirm! 🤠🙏

  • @ankpntamilchannel1662
    @ankpntamilchannel1662 4 года назад +3

    Beautifuly explained basic swaras, swara sthanams, swara names thank you so much mam

  • @vijithb2528
    @vijithb2528 4 года назад +1

    Superb! Only now I'm clear with what's R3, G3, D3, and N3 in the swaras..Thank you!!

  • @gopalgovender6542
    @gopalgovender6542 3 месяца назад

    அன்பான வாழ்த்துக்கள் பிரத்தீபா அம்மா. இந்த தலைப்பில் பல காணொளிகளை நான் பார்த்திருக்கிறேன், இருப்பினும், நான் மேலும் மேலும் குழப்பமடைந்தேன். உங்கள் காணொளியைப் பார்க்கும்போது எல்லாம் சரியாக புரிந்துக்கொண்டிருக்கிறேன். இந்தக் கருத்தை நீங்கள் நன்றாகக் கற்பித்ததில் நான் மிகவும் நிம்மதியடைந்தேன். நீங்கள் ஒரு சிறந்த ஆசிரியை மற்றும் பாடகி. தயவு செய்து உங்கள் சிறப்பான பணியை தொடருங்கள். இது மிகவும் பாராட்டத்தக்கது. நீங்கள் உண்மையிலேயே ஒரு மேதை. - Loving greetings Madam. I have watched many videos on this topic, however, I was getting more and more confused. When checking out your video I am beginning to understand this concept much better. I am so relieved that you have taught this concept so well. Your are an excellent teacher and an singer too. Please continue your great work. It is much appreciated. You are a genius indeed. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @subbu.atmakuri
    @subbu.atmakuri 4 года назад +1

    Real Guru. Thank you very much Amma.

  • @Carnatic16
    @Carnatic16 4 года назад +2

    excellent madam, even the person who does not know the music can also understand your explanation

  • @Raagvaishnaviofficial
    @Raagvaishnaviofficial 4 года назад

    I've observed that few singers are good in lower notes like jagjit ji or papon, who barely sing higher and few only sing heigher like Salman Ali they don't sing in low ...is it possible to strengthen both the sides

  • @BanibrataDutta
    @BanibrataDutta 5 лет назад +3

    Maam, thanks to this explanation I (think & hope) that I finally understood a tricky concept in western music i.e. why do we use C# in many contexts and Db in some contexts. Your video tutorials are highly appreciated and look forward to new ones.

  • @GreenGSRao
    @GreenGSRao Год назад

    Amazing clarity in your teaching!

  • @sonalishrivastavanigam1996
    @sonalishrivastavanigam1996 Год назад +1

    Wow ma'am you just gave us the best answer for my old Question.
    Thank you so much 🙏👌

  • @gangak8043
    @gangak8043 3 года назад

    Telugulo kuda explain cheste baguntundi mam, chala Mandi Telugu people understand chesukuntaru tq u mam

  • @rajasekhar6173
    @rajasekhar6173 4 года назад +2

    I have normal voice but I like our music so much you theory is so interesting make me to spend hours and hours , really you are so great teacher .

  • @ViolinCineMusic
    @ViolinCineMusic 4 месяца назад

    Pratibha videos are iconic for carnatic. You are an Iconic person. May god give good health wealth long happy life

  • @eshaccount
    @eshaccount 3 года назад +1

    How beautifully simplified explanation. Thank you.

  • @balamurli5207
    @balamurli5207 2 года назад

    Excellent explanation. Made it very simple. Thanks

  • @rekanaarayanan5373
    @rekanaarayanan5373 4 года назад

    Mam your way of teaching is very clear and easy to understand

  • @LalithaParameshwari2020
    @LalithaParameshwari2020 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for this video. Mam can u elaborate the swarasthanams with excercise in respective raagas like
    1.Mayamalavagowla 2.Pantuvarali 3.shankarabharanam 4.Kalyani 5.karaharapriya 6.Hemavathi and 7.Hanumatodi pls maam as workshop....

    • @VoxGuru
      @VoxGuru  5 лет назад +2

      We have a course called 'World of Swaras' in our VoxGuru app where we have covered some of these Ragas in the form of exercises. Do check it out :-)

  • @subrahmanyamputcha2728
    @subrahmanyamputcha2728 4 года назад

    My name is Subrahmanyam from Hyderabad just started learning to play Harmonium and also Vocal. I am deeply interested in your session's , they are very useful to beginners.

  • @enochbade
    @enochbade 4 года назад

    Very complicated bit very easily demonstrated. Great teacher

  • @kunalvanwari
    @kunalvanwari 5 лет назад +31

    What is 22 shrutis? Can you make a video on it.

    • @srijanghosh2001
      @srijanghosh2001 5 лет назад +2

      ruclips.net/video/OeTvUQzeg7g/видео.html
      You may get answer

    • @world-of-mystics1686
      @world-of-mystics1686 4 года назад

      Yes , madam please make a video on this

  • @jashvap5911
    @jashvap5911 2 года назад

    Thank you mam. You gave more information about swara sthanas.

  • @himakumarikota6485
    @himakumarikota6485 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the lesson ma'am

  • @senthilkumaran5751
    @senthilkumaran5751 4 года назад

    Clear voice, very good knowledge and cool body language.very useful for People like me with very basic knowledge of carnatic music. Thank u so much

  • @PhotokaaranDhas
    @PhotokaaranDhas 5 лет назад +2

    In teaching method animation are good and clear,keep it up.

  • @kieraliska173
    @kieraliska173 4 года назад +2

    I’m 👋 and this is blew my mind. I came from tiktok in search of what they were singing

  • @kallurisubrahmanyam2108
    @kallurisubrahmanyam2108 2 года назад

    Explained very well. Thank you

  • @fourstringsdown
    @fourstringsdown 3 года назад

    You are amazing. Explanation is crystal clear. I am learning all these basics from youtube now. Thank you so much.

  • @ganga6591
    @ganga6591 6 месяцев назад

    I still have to assimilate & internalise this, Pratibha Ji, along with the names given to each; Giving the example of Ganamurthy & Chalanattai helped. Dhanyawad❤

  • @anirudhj4433
    @anirudhj4433 4 года назад +1

    Please make a video on how to sing in aakar. Thank you.

  • @magicmandalas..9511
    @magicmandalas..9511 3 года назад +1

    Knowing this theories while learning music is important ❤️ TQ mam...

  • @rameshkirankumar3457
    @rameshkirankumar3457 3 года назад

    Excellent note.

  • @sweetysweety230
    @sweetysweety230 3 года назад

    Your channel is so useful... Exlent 🙏🙏🙏

  • @nagamanisalaka367
    @nagamanisalaka367 Год назад

    Ma'am you are explaining very very well 🙏

  • @lalindu100
    @lalindu100 2 года назад

    Thank you sooooo much for this video ..By using colour codes you have brought out excellent clarity .. Thank you for clearing My long time doubt on swarasthanas

  • @jahnavipenumuchu7391
    @jahnavipenumuchu7391 4 года назад +1

    This was so helpful id love to have you as my teacher thankyou ❤

  • @biochemically
    @biochemically 5 лет назад

    Very enlightening...and excellent use of technology as well.

  • @kondapuramseethakumari7654
    @kondapuramseethakumari7654 4 года назад +1

    Really beautifully explained. Very much appreciable

    • @VoxGuru
      @VoxGuru  4 года назад

      Thanks a lot 😊

  • @AnaghaChilakamarthi
    @AnaghaChilakamarthi Год назад

    madam ur videos are helping me a lot for my classes thank u so much

  • @vidhu3494
    @vidhu3494 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much mam! This is very helpful!

  • @purohitchintan66
    @purohitchintan66 5 лет назад +2

    Excellent explanation!🙏🏻

    • @VoxGuru
      @VoxGuru  5 лет назад +3

      Thanks a lot!

  • @singersabiha
    @singersabiha 3 года назад

    Best explanation ....you can make us quickly understand the thing hats off mam 👏👏👏👏💐🙏

  • @s.u.b.a.t.h.r.a
    @s.u.b.a.t.h.r.a 3 года назад

    Wonderful explanation. 🙏🙏

  • @Ashwini1708
    @Ashwini1708 4 года назад +2

    Hi Ma'am,
    Does R2= G1 and G2 = R3 mean they can be sung interchangeabliy as long as they are of same frequency? Also if a raaga has "S R1 R2" we will sing it as "S R1 G1" ?

    • @mystikemind547
      @mystikemind547 4 года назад

      I have the same question!

    • @nav_2709
      @nav_2709 5 месяцев назад

      The 2nd question, yes we replace R2 with the G1. But first qn we can't change as we please. The particular Swara Structure us given to sing that way. As she said aesthetically it won't sound good.

  • @hanushaakaru6841
    @hanushaakaru6841 4 года назад

    was looking for an explanation high and low for this!! Thank you for the detailed answer :)

  • @user-xn8fr3mx6d
    @user-xn8fr3mx6d 2 года назад +1

    Are there any ragas with say R1, R2 and G2 or G3 and likewise R1 or R2 and G2 and G3? If so why and how would one go about singing these?

  • @mksarav75
    @mksarav75 4 года назад

    excellent teaching. Thanks a lot.

  • @velssax4567
    @velssax4567 4 года назад

    Thank you madam
    Elaborately explained
    Very usefull contents
    Good service rendering for carnatic field

  • @usharao438
    @usharao438 4 года назад

    Very good video. I learnt Carnatic music when I was a teenager. But no understanding of the theory aspect of the music. Your video is compensating and quenching my thirst for knowledge of music . I resumed and relearning music . Thank you for your video. I am 55 now. After so long I restarted my journey of Carnatic music. I missed it as this system is not accessible in northern part of India.

  • @anjalikarthik4408
    @anjalikarthik4408 4 года назад

    Wonderful explanation

  • @VivekanandArumanda
    @VivekanandArumanda 4 года назад

    Thanks you so much mam, this channel is a boon to me. Just started out with my Carnatic Vocal classes. You are my second guru 🙏 thank you 🙏

  • @vennelayamini1033
    @vennelayamini1033 3 года назад

    Fantastic and very clear!
    Thank you so much mam :)

  • @kingmusic395
    @kingmusic395 4 года назад

    Very clear

  • @pavanashreek844
    @pavanashreek844 4 года назад

    Though not having any classical background... I can understand the difference between swaras..
    Really very good explanation...

  • @sangkara8280
    @sangkara8280 4 года назад

    Thank you for valueable sharing

  • @rajanvijayudu1337
    @rajanvijayudu1337 4 года назад

    Very informative. Thanks madam!

  • @jayshribalakrishnan6439
    @jayshribalakrishnan6439 4 года назад

    That was a crystal clear explanation..well done..thanks a lot ma'am

  • @GurjotSingh-lz3dr
    @GurjotSingh-lz3dr 5 лет назад +1

    Best graphics to learn something..u r the best

  • @balupraveen_90
    @balupraveen_90 Год назад

    Simple and profound explanation

  • @sangeetharajani6417
    @sangeetharajani6417 5 лет назад +1

    Wat a beautiful explanation hats off💐💐💐

    • @VoxGuru
      @VoxGuru  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you! Happy that you find it useful!

  • @VinaySharma-vh7mm
    @VinaySharma-vh7mm 4 года назад

    Too good maam..I'm learning classical music theory now and could follow everything you explained..thanks a lot

  • @vittal_rao
    @vittal_rao 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing valuable information Madam. I am learning flute. I follow your videos as you make the subject so intersting. Could you suggest me best soundproofing technique as i am getting feedback from my neigbours rewarding my flute.

  • @vidhyaak
    @vidhyaak 4 года назад

    Wow super explanation!

  • @jasonpandian5061
    @jasonpandian5061 5 месяцев назад

    Super Mam. Beautiful explanation

  • @saradsouza3214
    @saradsouza3214 3 года назад

    Amazing teaching :) Thankyou!

  • @madhumithabalajeyandhan4209
    @madhumithabalajeyandhan4209 3 года назад

    It was very helpful.

  • @mittayasoda1238
    @mittayasoda1238 3 месяца назад

    Very good explanation

  • @mc.selvaginiraajan1403
    @mc.selvaginiraajan1403 4 года назад

    Sa - shadjam
    Ri- sudhdha rishabam
    Chathushruti rishabam
    Shatruti rishabam
    Ga- suddha gaanthaaram
    Sadhaarana gaanthaaram
    Antara gaanthaaram
    Ma- suddha madhyamam
    Prati madhyamam
    Pa- panchamam
    Da- suddha daivatham
    Sathusruti daivatham
    Shatshruti daivatham
    Ni-. Sudhdha nishaadham
    Kaisiki nishaadham
    Kaakali nishadham
    These are the notes of Carnatic music
    Mam can you post a video on these notes in detail by singing all these types of notes

  • @aparnasreedhar
    @aparnasreedhar Год назад

    Crystal clear explanation

  • @preethirajraj8958
    @preethirajraj8958 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you mam 🙏
    Love your way of teaching 😘

    • @VoxGuru
      @VoxGuru  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you! Happy that you find it useful!

  • @aradhyagireesan6554
    @aradhyagireesan6554 4 года назад

    Superb ma'am......Thank you so much👌💕

  • @saneeshj8
    @saneeshj8 Год назад

    Thank you 🙏 ❤ and thanks to the good teachers you had ❤

  • @madhuriv9785
    @madhuriv9785 4 года назад

    Very nice explanation

  • @Sitaramsdr
    @Sitaramsdr 4 года назад

    Thank you so much. I have been searching net for the past four days for clarification about this confusing naming of swaras and you made it very clear...

  • @the.arjutechpronicsofficial
    @the.arjutechpronicsofficial 2 года назад

    Wow nice work. Thank you mom

  • @indrasukumar5564
    @indrasukumar5564 3 года назад

    As a beginner I too try to understand & of course your explanation is awesome 👍

  • @RKTalkies
    @RKTalkies 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you teacher

  • @dassretreat8547
    @dassretreat8547 5 лет назад

    Super explanation of 16 swaras

    • @VoxGuru
      @VoxGuru  5 лет назад

      Thank you! Happy that you find it useful!

  • @ananthd1131
    @ananthd1131 3 года назад

    Master of teaching swaras...

  • @nagamanisalaka367
    @nagamanisalaka367 Год назад

    Thank you so much ma'am🙏

  • @aravind123gmailcom
    @aravind123gmailcom 4 года назад

    Very nice explanation - thank you!

  • @narasimhadattakumar603
    @narasimhadattakumar603 5 лет назад +1

    Wonderful Madam. Thank you so much.

  • @pratikmandal2030
    @pratikmandal2030 5 лет назад

    I am not good at music theory but I have got a confusion seeing this turorial. If I see the basic 7 swars as natural major scale that means C D E F G A B. In the frame of octave with 12 half steps, if we take the sharp concept then E and B(without sharp) are fixed which is Ga and Ni. Considering flat concept, F and C(without flat) are fixed that is Ma and Sa. But here I find Sa and Pa are fixed. Why is this difference?

  • @PandaTraveller
    @PandaTraveller 4 года назад

    Great you teach and thank you

  • @latha9605196506
    @latha9605196506 5 лет назад

    Though l Iisten to a lot of carnatic music I was rather unaware of the technical aspects of it ... your Video helps me a lot .. thank you ..

    • @VoxGuru
      @VoxGuru  5 лет назад +2

      Thank you so much!

  • @praveenav7382
    @praveenav7382 4 года назад

    You are singing very nice

  • @indrasukumar5564
    @indrasukumar5564 3 года назад

    Beautiful 🙏

  • @nityanidhi4060
    @nityanidhi4060 4 года назад +1

    Madam... I have been watching your lectures. You sing too good. Have ever tried reaching out to opportunity in Movie as a singer.?? Just curious.

  • @vaibhavambhore7449
    @vaibhavambhore7449 3 года назад

    Thank you so much❤❤😊😊🙏🙏