Not so easy...complexity easily explained. Nice simple rap to mind which sees music construction is complex ...till delving into it rather just listening ...am learning ...pretty late ..
In 80s HariprasadJi and Zakirji were playing in Pune. HariprasadJi played solo for the first 30 min with Zakirji enjoying the performance. Majority of audience couldn't enjoy it, but THOSE who enjoyed it had tears rolling down.. experiencing swargiya Ananda..
Wow, very educational, Indian culture never ceases to amaze me, what a beautiful guide from a lovely, intelligent person. Great love and appreciation from the US!
@@VoxGuru I had learnt the seven notes as Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Dha Ni. But today for the first time in my life, I saw Ri (instead of Re) and Da (instead of Dha) and I am completely confused now.
@@BhatakteeAtma The syllables of carnatic music are different. This is indeed due to language. But you need not worry. Focus on the exercise. Take Ri as Re and Da as Dha and do the exercise.
As a guitarist, primarily (multi-instrumentalist) with a music degree and a lot of ear training, i find this lesson a wonderful reinforcement of essential musical skills. I've always loved traditional indian vocal traditions so the cultural inclusion is just lovely. I hope i can make my guitar sing like you.
So if you hear a song would you be able to play it without looking up the chords or notes? I kinda want to learn this song but I can’t find the chords for it online and idk how to find it the chords on my own
There is a difference between colours and notes. Colours do not have any reference frame but Swaras do have. To sing 'Ga' you have to know where the 'Sa' is, whatever the scale may be. Its like mathematics. If 'Sa' is 'X', then 'Re' is 'X+2', 'Ma' is 'X+5' etc. X is a variable here which changes with the Scales, but the formula remains the same, whatever the scale may be. Unlike western classical you don't have to know the scale first to identify a 'swara' or Note. But you just can't sing 'Ga' randomly if you don't know where the 'Sa' is.
Very true. Sound is wave frequency. Scale is changing frequency in a defined fashion. Therefore, Sa,that’s ones basic frequency, decides what Re,Ga etc are. The singer first establishes his Sa e.g. kali 5, safed 1. The upward scale is then determined as explained.
Yes, quite a difference. (1) Most people can't identify absolute pitch so instead you have to hear intervals ... so 7 notes is not "just like" 7 primary colors, it's 7! ... seven factorial for all the combinations. The color analogy would be looking at a picture of a house or something with many different colors and being able to identify each color in the palette. (2) The brain gives far more processing to visual than audible. It's far easier to say something is dark or light green vs. high or low octave of a particular note.
What's colour spectrum /visible range in light waves for? Our parents teachers don't use this scale to teach us colours. In the video she only used colour as an analogy. At the end of the day it's light and sound. Both are waves!
I like the scientific approach you have in your explanation of Indian music with a Western twist.That's amazing especially for students who have interest to learn music but not had a formal training in classical training in music. Thanks so much.
Due to some reasons I have left learning music but today my good krma brought me to your channel. The concepts you are teaching are rare to find . By seeing only half of your video I am damn sure that your channel will truly benefit me.
It is true without knowing Sa you can not jump to next note. Another aspect is in hindustan classical music the notes are not sung not in pure tone musician gives flavour to pure notes as per his creativity.
I have now seen a couple videos of her. Not only she has deep knowledge of Indian classical music but she has wonderful skills to present it in simpler terms for average people.
Access to knowledge is how higher castes keep the power in the family . Music is so easy and natural a caveman can do it without having to translate into abstract babble-on-and-on terms .
@@jowlorenz9555 It is not about caste. Notation is followed in foreign countries that do not have castes. In modern days people of all castes have access to music. Notation and other systematic techniques help in learning and making music universal than limiting it to a cave man singing only on natural instict. If madam wanted to restrict access to musical knowledge, she would not have posted this video.
My entire life was in a confusion about swaras and its relevance to singing. This video helped people like me with no musical background. Thanks a lot mam.👍
Amazing way of explaining the details... Really a good teacher needs all these qualities... We can see the quality of your devotion and teaching skills... Pranam.
One of the best training videos I have seen in youtube. Great approach, using technology. 1 - Made simple for beginners to understand 2 - Animations are used for best visualisation. 3 - Very humble to learners although you are an expert. 4. Starting from scratch and in apt step-by-step manner. Easy to digest. Keep up this wonderful helpful work. You are great.
I always believe knowledge and teaching are two different things. Beta, you are great teacher. That example with color is so good. You have answered my question with so much simplicity. God bless you.
The example of colour and the reference of a note don't match. Sa cannot be a defined colour. Her explanation does not mention this. We cannot hear a sound and call it GA or MA, without knowing the reference point. We can call the GA or MA as SA in the absence of a reference point.
This is how learning should result as empowerment. Only good teacher can do it like you mam, not possible for everyone. Ton of thanks for such a wonderful video.
Thank you so much.for a laymen in music this is a huge step in learning music."Kala or Art" is a God gufted phenomeneon only the blessed ones inherited.
Ms. Prathibha you are so right "want learn this part only" it can't be like that it is as a full package. Learning aero plane training is few months, but learning music takes more time and also it gives more pleasure. After few months spending learning swaras I changed my way of thinking. It impacts on our behavior also in good way. Thanks again you are a greatest teacher ever known. Appreciate what you do.
No ! The concept of Svara is not explained in this video, and confuse musical notes and svaras. Svara need a tampura drone to be indentified as such. Do re mi fa sol...don't. Svaras is an Indian musical concept that is different form the concept of note. So somehow this video will perfectly fit indian claasical background listener, south asian, but not at all a western listener.
So wonderful. I wish I had a teacher like you. Thought I was tone deaf until I watched this and realized my ears can intact pick up notes. Amazing that you made the process simple like a game instead of the stressful experience I had felt until now.
@@VoxGuru I had learnt the seven notes as Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Dha Ni. But today for the first time in my life, I saw Ri (instead of Re) and Da (instead of Dha) and I am completely confused now.
Best explanations....& Very effective i tried......but it take so much consciousness & awareness .....if we really want to do it in right way... thanks again
Music appreciation is an art in itself and you've just made it possible for many an Indian classical music affecienado, blessed 🙏 looking forward to more lessons like this one !
Simply love the way you present and teach! The videos are precise, informative, creative and ofcourse very interesting! Thanks for sharing such content for classical music enthusiasts!😊
OMG!! You're so Good Ma'am. I am a Beginner and I had exactly the same thing goin in my Brain n u explained it so very well n systematically. I'm glad i saw this. I'll definitely do these exercises. Thanks a lot again.
WoW!!! I have enjoyed a successful career as a singer/songwriter for years and always wanted to do this. THANK U SOO MUCH for making it so simple and palatable, it is GREATLY appreciated. Blesu sis!
The title of this video is exactly what I was looking for. The guidance is also precise to learn what I intend to. Difference is I thought it was a minutes job, while it’s a decades job.
As to how to identify the notes of a song, I just pick a particular note, like moh in the song moh moh ke dhaage, play a series of notes on my piano to find a match. Then the same for the two notes of dhaa ge and so on. In minutes I can play a line of the song on the piano. But then the very difficult part is to know which is the Sa or Ga etc. Oh, I can say this is a C# or an E etc but then to figure out the scale is very difficult. I was trying to figure this out for the song Man Tarpat Hari Darshan Ko Aaj from Baiju Bawra. I found it uses a D Sharp (E Flat) minor scale but missing the notes to match the pentatonic Malkauns (Hindolam) raaga. Very painstaking process because I took piano lessons 30 years ago and have played very little since! 😁
Hii pratibha mam ..I'm searching for this kind of video frm so many tym... I'm really impressed with ur teaching way ...I'm very much weak in identifying swaras... we'll try this.hoping that I will able to identify swara sthana🙏😊
Madam, identifying a particular swara depends on the scale in which we sing. You have not explained that. If you have sung the notes in C scale, it will be different in D or B scales, right? Ga in C scale will be Re in D scale. So these differences need to be explained.
This needs to be explained.....I'm dying to get it right way since very long time 😑 However I know that we have to identify the scale of the song and according to that notes are recognized, but the problem I'm facing is how to identify the scale of any song😕
@@utkarshpurigoswami7537 First identify the Sa of your Scale. Then you start the exercise as explained in the video. The song will come repeatedly to Sa and rest for a while there. With a little bit of practice you will get it.
Where were you all this years mam! No one taught this simple.Really enjoyed this vdo. Hope you make more vdos on ear training. For beginners without inborn music sense this is very helpful.one get bored doing those saregama exercises without this knowledge and stop learning.this is fun way at the same time very intersting. Thank you.
Awesome way of explaining. Of course step 4 goes over my head. It's been four years since I've been playing the keyboard and learning new songs but I can't identify notes in a song to save my life! My teacher gives me swaras I play. Sometimes she gave me games like ask someone to press a key on the keyboard and guess the note. Can't do that either.🙄
It's about habit. Since you got the swaras from the teacher there was no requirement to identify the notes by ear. One game is to try and identify a single note in your favourite song the base note of the song (for example the sama). Try different notes (high, middle or low) till you find the correct note. Then it gets easier as notes normally cluster around some important notes. Key is to play a game to figure out if a note is lower than previous one or higher? If it's higher how many notes higher is it? 1, 2, 3 notes higher? Similarly for lower notes. Many times the same note is repeated so it becomes easier. Keep doing this until you're able to play a short phrase in the song. Next you can try to identify other phrases till you get the entire song.
Looks like they also didn’t teach you proper grammar the rope of language on which you are walking is taut to the point of teaching you a lesson by snapping
sudarshan71 why comment on someone s English? It's irrelevant don't you think? No one is perfect .. I don't think the previous comment was sarcastic I too feel if only someone had taught me some basic classical music ☹️ (specially after hearing this lady sing and teach the way she does !!)
@@sudarshan71 1. if you could teach me what is wrong with that comment i would be happy to learn. No need for taunting or insulting. 2.You cant expect every netizen to write comments with flawless grammar. 3.im not writing something to my boss formally , im just writing a comment on youtube video. You might be an english professor at worlds best university, that doesnt mean you can comment on someones english irreverently. English is just a language.
From my experience, I realized that people are unable to get the Sa. A few of them can identify, but get confused with Pa. Just making them sing Sa with tanpura is probably the best first step.
Hi Madam, your class is very helpful to those who interested in learning music, your explanations are very simplified and easy to understand anyone with the help of your animations..it is highly appreciated. Can you please advice me how you are creative this animations? Thanks again for you wonderful presentation
You know, I have a different example. Just like colors, I use the example using food! But same concept.😅👏🏻👏🏻How a mother feeds her child with basic food, to the food which a child can identify its favorite delicacy. Experience matters!
Yep, and that’s why this video is BS. With music, you either have perfect pitch and during the process of learning the instrument you hear and recognize the notes on your own (without the need to do these types of exercises) or, you don’t, and therefore you literally CAN’T remember the note you heard in the first place, and when you can’t store that information, you won’t be able to do the exercises she mentioned and whatnot. In theory, this guideline would work, but IRL, you are either perfect pitch and don’t need it, or you’re not perfect pitch, and need to learn intervals (through many years of practice and experience) and with a baseline note (either if you have an instrument in hand, or with your own voice) detect the interval between the baseline note and the note you are hearing, and therefore calculate it this way.
Yeah one identifies red is red or whatever name it has, or no name for it. Perfect pitch is different, yes I know we call certain note C, doesn't mean I can identify it randomly.
Perhaps you could initially start the exercise by using only the 7 basic notes irrespective of the scale. The semi tones could come later.. As you develop and practice your drills consisting of various combination of notes, you will notice your recognition of each individual note will get enhanced. There is no science for recognizing a note, you have to just drill it into your brain. Just like your parents and teachers drilled the names of various colors into your brain. Like learning a new language. Primary skill required is memorizing. Grammar can come later. That was my two bits worth. I played the sitar for many years.
Music is a very vast and elaborate subject. Learning completely takes whole life span. If learnt from childhood itself then it remains engraved in the mind for ever. If learnt later in grown up age there may remain some weaknesses. For playing few film songs or ghazals/bhajans based on sugam sangeet learning fully is not essential. Learning basics and practicing regularly is sufficient. Your colours pattern example is very good.
Everything needs practice. If you are learning an instrument, vocals or for that matter even studies. Everything requires practice for your experience so that you can put your own brain and master it completely.
Yes it is frustrating. But frustrations arise because you are only fascinated not Devoted to music. Devotion came from blood and it can't be suppressed. 🎵🎵🎵🎵
No You don't need to memorize the sound of each swara You just need to know the tonic or (sa) of the song Based on the tonic Sa you need to find the notes in relation to it It is almost impossible to memorize the notes unless you have perfect pitch which only 1 in 10000 people have
@@VoxGuru You are identifying intervals not notes. Sa could be C or it could be Bb. In your video you use note A for Sa. The way to really identify a note by a fixed frequency. So the standard for A today is today is around 440 (432-440) but A# is around 466 a muc bigger difference. You arbitrarily picked A so Ri and Ga are only relative. But Sa is not always A. So if you heard A it could be Sa or Ri or Ga etc depending on the raga. Sa is not a note, it's any note So if you hear A how can you tell it's A? That is very hard to do for an adult not born with perfect pitch however some people can train themselves by picking one note on a piano as their basic note like A or C. Then everyday you play this one note, let's say C on an organ in every octave singing at the same time. Then you practice intervals like you do in this video so first you have been playing that C every day in several octave everyday. It's around 259 to 264 (very small range). The standard keyboard will be 261.63. Then you know what the interval N ni sounds like and can identify A
You are right, all Swaras a relative to Sa. You can hear a drone sound in the background which suggests where the Sa is. If this Sa changes, then all Swaras will change accordingly. The concept of movable Sa is something that needs special attention so haven't covered it here in this video. But yes, I have identified Swaras relative to the Sa. In classical music we usually stick to one Shruti throughout so that is a good place to start before experimenting with multiple shruthis.
@@VoxGuru Actually I liked the fact that you chose not to cover the relative placement of Sa and thus kept it simple. And loved the way you analysed the process of conscious learning, pattern recognition, etc. Being a graphic designer myself I could very well relate to the example of colour identification! As for tone identification in fixed frequencies- it's virtually impossible to gain pitch perfection at a later age. But then again, if one can learn to identify one major scale- like you demonstrated with A major- with a little more effort one should be able to identify at least 7 out of 12 notes- A, B, C#, D, E, F#, G#, and this holds true for no matter what ones relative Sa is, for example if one starts Sa at B flat s/he will learn a different set of 7 notes, but it'd still be 7 out of 12... now that's like almost 60% of the battle won- isn't it!
Lots of Love, Regards, Respect and Pranaam to my dear dear Sister !! 🙏❤🙏 I need your kind permission to spread out such a fantastic video amongst them in Bengali language who cannot follow or understand English properly. I just want to translate this in Bengali for them. And that also obviously after using your name as the creator of this thought definitely. Your permission is eagerly awaited. Thank you. 🙏🙏
Brilliant. For years I thought this skill was confined to specially gifted people. Thanks, I will now make humble and serious efforts to train my ears properly.
Thank you so much for this information, i was cursing myself as people seem to do this so effortlessly. (Though I'm certainly not even close the core demographic of the video.lol)
For her age, she seems to be a musical genius Her English is crystal clear and surely marvelous By learning from her, I can stop looking ridiculous I must learn music for which teachers must bless! mvvenkataraman
Now only I found your channel...so superb...I learned music but at point of time I skipped it...again by seeing your videos I feel I can learn it again.
Absolutely wonderful technique............this has indeed helped me to indentify swaras without watching the keys,,,,, i tried random ragas.. These 4 steps are awesome. Thank you. God bless you Mam.
Try downloading this app, and practice the basic exercises using numbers. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kaizen9.fet.android So just think of Sa as 1, Ri is 2, Ga is 3 etc. And the lowered versions of notes like 3 for example would be b3 (pronounced as "Flat Three") which is technically Ga2. And raised would be, for example 4 would be #4 ("Sharp Fourth") which is Ma2
Don’t be fooled, developing perfect pitch doesn’t happen for everyone and take quite a bit of practice. I went to college for music education and not everyone could effectively identify pitches out of context.
@@todd7416ify I’ve heard that too, but some say they’ve achieved it through work. Maybe they were born with it and just polished it up I really don’t know. I guess it comes down to which school of thought you belong to, but that’s an excellent point
Yeah, dont believ her, you cannot teach intelligence, the same way you cannot teach perfect pitch or musical talent, you are or not! What you can develop through practice is relative pitch by using pegs in your brain's clean wall, by using memory, using a constant position/sound in your throat and comparing it or counting the intervals, etc... but "seeing" the sounds, that cant be taught!
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When you explaining something to us that background graphics was so helpful to understand much better. thank you for wonderful teaching madam....
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@VoxGuru yes, too good graphics.
But i can just close my eyes and listen to all your videos and enjoy them equally.. kudos my guru..
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@@VoxGuru 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
Not so easy...complexity easily explained. Nice simple rap to mind which sees music construction is complex ...till delving into it rather just listening ...am learning ...pretty late ..
In 80s HariprasadJi and Zakirji were playing in Pune. HariprasadJi played solo for the first 30 min with Zakirji enjoying the performance. Majority of audience couldn't enjoy it, but THOSE who enjoyed it had tears rolling down.. experiencing swargiya Ananda..
I am a new student at 37, thank you for explaining so clearly, you are a gifted teacher, dhanyavadaha🙏🙏
Excllent
Wow, very educational, Indian culture never ceases to amaze me, what a beautiful guide from a lovely, intelligent person. Great love and appreciation from the US!
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YOU ARE A BORN TEACHER, LADY. LEARNING MADE SO SIMPLE & LIVELY. MY GOOD WISHES.
Thank you! 😃
@@VoxGuru I had learnt the seven notes as Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Dha Ni. But today for the first time in my life, I saw Ri (instead of Re) and Da (instead of Dha) and I am completely confused now.
@@BhatakteeAtmapoint so correct it may a language problem, though written Ri she pronounce Re .
@@BhatakteeAtmaI'm 0 at sangit and trying to learn
@@BhatakteeAtma The syllables of carnatic music are different. This is indeed due to language. But you need not worry. Focus on the exercise. Take Ri as Re and Da as Dha and do the exercise.
As a guitarist, primarily (multi-instrumentalist) with a music degree and a lot of ear training, i find this lesson a wonderful reinforcement of essential musical skills. I've always loved traditional indian vocal traditions so the cultural inclusion is just lovely. I hope i can make my guitar sing like you.
Best wishes.
So if you hear a song would you be able to play it without looking up the chords or notes? I kinda want to learn this song but I can’t find the chords for it online and idk how to find it the chords on my own
@@ulisesmeza8494 What's the song?
@@suchithsridhar it’s not just one song. I want to hear a song and be able to know how to play it but idk how to practice that.
@@ulisesmeza8494 take lesson and practice
To become a good singer or musician , the person must be a good listener..
True
Yes!!
Very true
Absolutely true
And if you’re not in the beginning (me), while learning music and singing, one tends to become a good listener.
There is a difference between colours and notes. Colours do not have any reference frame but Swaras do have. To sing 'Ga' you have to know where the 'Sa' is, whatever the scale may be. Its like mathematics. If 'Sa' is 'X', then 'Re' is 'X+2', 'Ma' is 'X+5' etc. X is a variable here which changes with the Scales, but the formula remains the same, whatever the scale may be. Unlike western classical you don't have to know the scale first to identify a 'swara' or Note. But you just can't sing 'Ga' randomly if you don't know where the 'Sa' is.
Thank you so much
Brother I understood what you mean to say mathematically but it will be nice if you can make a video on the same
Very true. Sound is wave frequency. Scale is changing frequency in a defined fashion. Therefore, Sa,that’s ones basic frequency, decides what Re,Ga etc are. The singer first establishes his Sa e.g. kali 5, safed 1. The upward scale is then determined as explained.
Yes, quite a difference. (1) Most people can't identify absolute pitch so instead you have to hear intervals ... so 7 notes is not "just like" 7 primary colors, it's 7! ... seven factorial for all the combinations. The color analogy would be looking at a picture of a house or something with many different colors and being able to identify each color in the palette. (2) The brain gives far more processing to visual than audible. It's far easier to say something is dark or light green vs. high or low octave of a particular note.
What's colour spectrum /visible range in light waves for? Our parents teachers don't use this scale to teach us colours. In the video she only used colour as an analogy. At the end of the day it's light and sound. Both are waves!
I like the scientific approach you have in your explanation of Indian music with a Western twist.That's amazing especially for students who have interest to learn music but not had a formal training in classical training in music. Thanks so much.
Due to some reasons I have left learning music but today my good krma brought me to your channel. The concepts you are teaching are rare to find . By seeing only half of your video I am damn sure that your channel will truly benefit me.
Oh my lord I was thinking in the same manner,i thought i did some real good deeds to land on her channel!!!!
@@bhav250874 channel is brilliant that's why
She has such a lovely voice (reminds me a little of kavita krishnamurty)
Thank you so much!
Yes me to ...
It is true without knowing Sa you can not jump to next note. Another aspect is in hindustan classical music the notes are not sung not in pure tone musician gives flavour to pure notes as per his creativity.
Swarnalatha exact voice
I have now seen a couple videos of her. Not only she has deep knowledge of Indian classical music but she has wonderful skills to present it in simpler terms for average people.
The moral of the story is "There is no shortcut to learn music"
Access to knowledge is how higher castes keep the power in the family .
Music is so easy and natural a caveman can do it without having to translate into abstract babble-on-and-on terms .
Exactly
That is scary
@@jowlorenz9555 It is not about caste. Notation is followed in foreign countries that do not have castes. In modern days people of all castes have access to music. Notation and other systematic techniques help in learning and making music universal than limiting it to a cave man singing only on natural instict. If madam wanted to restrict access to musical knowledge, she would not have posted this video.
Absolutely
My entire life was in a confusion about swaras and its relevance to singing. This video helped people like me with no musical background. Thanks a lot mam.👍
Amazing way of explaining the details... Really a good teacher needs all these qualities... We can see the quality of your devotion and teaching skills... Pranam.
Very useful for starters and best thing how you presented it....loved it
Thank you so much!
@@VoxGuru hello Mam IAM glad to here please make one app that would not take money plz mam that for starters
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@@VoxGuru hehe
You made me feel so grateful, VoxGuru !❤
The best teacher I found after times, lots of LOVE from Pakistan.
Nice to know that you hear Indian music....🇮🇳♥️🇵🇰
Really it's very useful for beginners
One of the best training videos I have seen in youtube. Great approach, using technology.
1 - Made simple for beginners to understand
2 - Animations are used for best visualisation.
3 - Very humble to learners although you are an expert.
4. Starting from scratch and in apt step-by-step manner. Easy to digest.
Keep up this wonderful helpful work. You are great.
I can't make out any svara but if I had a teacher like you I would not have been so completely uselss musicially...You are just an amazing teacher.
I always believe knowledge and teaching are two different things. Beta, you are great teacher. That example with color is so good. You have answered my question with so much simplicity. God bless you.
The example of colour and the reference of a note don't match.
Sa cannot be a defined colour.
Her explanation does not mention this.
We cannot hear a sound and call it GA or MA, without knowing the reference point.
We can call the GA or MA as SA in the absence of a reference point.
Music is haraam in Islam
On a serious note, her descriptions are actually very instructive. I found those useful.
Thank you!
This is how learning should result as empowerment. Only good teacher can do it like you mam, not possible for everyone. Ton of thanks for such a wonderful video.
Thank you so much.for a laymen in music this is a huge step in learning music."Kala or Art" is a God gufted phenomeneon only the blessed ones inherited.
Greatest voice ever...
Beautiful Accent ..
Stay blessed mam..
Thanks a lot!
@@VoxGuru
U r welcome mam..
U doing Dual Course.. for me along with music.. my English also becoming better . ThanQ Mam. 🙏💐
Ms. Prathibha you are so right "want learn this part only" it can't be like that it is as a full package. Learning aero plane training is few months, but learning music takes more time and also it gives more pleasure. After few months spending learning swaras I changed my way of thinking. It impacts on our behavior also in good way. Thanks again you are a greatest teacher ever known. Appreciate what you do.
Are the swaras same as the “Do Re Mi......” but all in all I love how she always breaks things down
Martin Devadason thanks Mart 🙏🏾
Yes 😊😊
No ! The concept of Svara is not explained in this video, and confuse musical notes and svaras. Svara need a tampura drone to be indentified as such. Do re mi fa sol...don't. Svaras is an Indian musical concept that is different form the concept of note. So somehow this video will perfectly fit indian claasical background listener, south asian, but not at all a western listener.
@@arnauddidierjean108 thanks 🙏🏾 for the clarity
@okello closest answer is c note =sa, d=re, e=ga & so on ..
Woww how can someone sing so effortlessly like that. 😶
GOD BLESS YOU. YOU HAVE ANSWERED A QUESTION I HAVE BEEN LONG STRUGGLING WITH.
Thanks a lot!
yar sare bengali singers hi hote he kya?
@@PankajSharma-jl3ec haha, kaafi hadd tak
True... Same here
You are one of the greatest teacher of music with unique teaching method. Thank you guru ji.
Thanks for your motherly teaching of music. You are a blessing for those that have a heart for music but cannot afford to do it.
So wonderful. I wish I had a teacher like you. Thought I was tone deaf until I watched this and realized my ears can intact pick up notes. Amazing that you made the process simple like a game instead of the stressful experience I had felt until now.
Thank you! Watch out for more exciting content on this channel!
@@VoxGuru I had learnt the seven notes as Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Dha Ni. But today for the first time in my life, I saw Ri (instead of Re) and Da (instead of Dha) and I am completely confused now.
This is the way to teach any subject properly like you... It is very clear attractive and easy.. thank you very much
Best explanations....& Very effective i tried......but it take so much consciousness & awareness .....if we really want to do it in right way... thanks again
Music appreciation is an art in itself and you've just made it possible for many an Indian classical music affecienado, blessed 🙏 looking forward to more lessons like this one !
Loved it, though I am nowhere a person singing or learning music.! Realized how scientific our culture is.! From literature to music everything..!
Omg it's more difficult than Quantum mechanics 😓
Hahaha QM
U bet!
No terminator. Everything has its own difficulty level. Devotion is must 👏👏👆🙏
@Pure Mathematical Guruji maths tightening mind,music giving relaax.in music come maths will become more silent.😃😄😄.
You dont know quantum mechanics😒
I am a student
Hats off to you for making music reach every strat of society.
Thank you!
Awesome
Simply love the way you present and teach! The videos are precise, informative, creative and ofcourse very interesting! Thanks for sharing such content for classical music enthusiasts!😊
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OMG!! You're so Good Ma'am. I am a Beginner and I had exactly the same thing goin in my Brain n u explained it so very well n systematically. I'm glad i saw this. I'll definitely do these exercises. Thanks a lot again.
Wow mam
Very Interesting. I wish I had you teach me when I was young. But, it is never too late!
Ma'am u hv a Lovely singing ability. a very gd voice. God Bless.
Tq madam ji ,, I was searching whole net for this but no where I got answer . Tqqqq
WoW!!! I have enjoyed a successful career as a singer/songwriter for years and always wanted to do this. THANK U SOO MUCH for making it so simple and palatable, it is GREATLY appreciated. Blesu sis!
The title of this video is exactly what I was looking for. The guidance is also precise to learn what I intend to. Difference is I thought it was a minutes job, while it’s a decades job.
As to how to identify the notes of a song, I just pick a particular note, like moh in the song moh moh ke dhaage, play a series of notes on my piano to find a match. Then the same for the two notes of dhaa ge and so on. In minutes I can play a line of the song on the piano. But then the very difficult part is to know which is the Sa or Ga etc. Oh, I can say this is a C# or an E etc but then to figure out the scale is very difficult.
I was trying to figure this out for the song Man Tarpat Hari Darshan Ko Aaj from Baiju Bawra. I found it uses a D Sharp (E Flat) minor scale but missing the notes to match the pentatonic Malkauns (Hindolam) raaga. Very painstaking process because I took piano lessons 30 years ago and have played very little since! 😁
You are mastered teacher ,you simplify the way of teaching .I enjoyed .everything looks difficult till we learn .my big salute to this teacher.
Hii pratibha mam ..I'm searching for this kind of video frm so many tym... I'm really impressed with ur teaching way ...I'm very much weak in identifying swaras... we'll try this.hoping that I will able to identify swara sthana🙏😊
Never have I gone through such notes recognition practical & interesting vocal training, which is so interesting & easy to follow. Thx a lot.🙏🏼🙏🏼💖
Singing is like ocean never ending and more n more tooo learn and innovate ❤
Madam, identifying a particular swara depends on the scale in which we sing. You have not explained that. If you have sung the notes in C scale, it will be different in D or B scales, right? Ga in C scale will be Re in D scale. So these differences need to be explained.
exactely
As it is I'm confused.. 😭
This needs to be explained.....I'm dying to get it right way since very long time 😑
However I know that we have to identify the scale of the song and according to that notes are recognized, but the problem I'm facing is how to identify the scale of any song😕
You are absolutely correct. In this video this important matter has not been mentioned at all. This is actually misleading.
@@utkarshpurigoswami7537 First identify the Sa of your Scale. Then you start the exercise as explained in the video. The song will come repeatedly to Sa and rest for a while there. With a little bit of practice you will get it.
Where were you all this years mam! No one taught this simple.Really enjoyed this vdo. Hope you make more vdos on ear training.
For beginners without inborn music sense this is very helpful.one get bored doing those saregama exercises without this knowledge and stop learning.this is fun way at the same time very intersting. Thank you.
Awesome way of explaining. Of course step 4 goes over my head. It's been four years since I've been playing the keyboard and learning new songs but I can't identify notes in a song to save my life! My teacher gives me swaras I play. Sometimes she gave me games like ask someone to press a key on the keyboard and guess the note. Can't do that either.🙄
It's about habit. Since you got the swaras from the teacher there was no requirement to identify the notes by ear.
One game is to try and identify a single note in your favourite song the base note of the song (for example the sama). Try different notes (high, middle or low) till you find the correct note. Then it gets easier as notes normally cluster around some important notes.
Key is to play a game to figure out if a note is lower than previous one or higher? If it's higher how many notes higher is it? 1, 2, 3 notes higher? Similarly for lower notes. Many times the same note is repeated so it becomes easier.
Keep doing this until you're able to play a short phrase in the song. Next you can try to identify other phrases till you get the entire song.
Why did my kindergarten didn't taught me notes when the they taught colors 😭
Looks like they also didn’t teach you proper grammar the rope of language on which you are walking is taut to the point of teaching you a lesson by snapping
sudarshan71 why comment on someone s English? It's irrelevant don't you think? No one is perfect .. I don't think the previous comment was sarcastic I too feel if only someone had taught me some basic classical music ☹️ (specially after hearing this lady sing and teach the way she does !!)
@@shikhab2250 Point taken- My remark was callous
sudarshan71 🙂
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1. if you could teach me what is wrong with that comment i would be happy to learn. No need for taunting or insulting.
2.You cant expect every netizen to write comments with flawless grammar.
3.im not writing something to my boss formally , im just writing a comment on youtube video.
You might be an english professor at worlds best university, that doesnt mean you can comment on someones english irreverently.
English is just a language.
Thank u madam ,the way u taught simplifying d things.It really doesn't matter what is ur age?I have given lot of time to music.
From my experience, I realized that people are unable to get the Sa. A few of them can identify, but get confused with Pa. Just making them sing Sa with tanpura is probably the best first step.
I am sad that noone explained me like this 10 years ago when I tried to learn music.
I feel the same..!
yeah
@@parbatiaikat1471 it's never too late 😉
@@San-uu7qc thank you
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Btw. Subh Holi 🙏😉
Identification of Swaras made very easy by you ma'am.
Thank you.
I don't know about music but damn sure u are a genius mam.
Hi Madam, your class is very helpful to those who interested in learning music, your explanations are very simplified and easy to understand anyone with the help of your animations..it is highly appreciated.
Can you please advice me how you are creative this animations?
Thanks again for you wonderful presentation
Wow. How easily you explained. Thanks
0:00 to 0:27 I learned one line of Moh moh ke dhage :)
Yes I was always singing wrong
You know, I have a different example. Just like colors, I use the example using food! But same concept.😅👏🏻👏🏻How a mother feeds her child with basic food, to the food which a child can identify its favorite delicacy. Experience matters!
Lovely 😊
So please give your channel link
I want to play flute
@@sanjayprajapati2368 I don't upload videos on RUclips, I just teach music live. 😊
Hundred percent useful, now I understood how to train our ears.
Thanks a lot.
I wasn’t taught how to identify colours. I was just taught what names they are given which is completely different.
Exact thing happened to my sister, now she can't identify colours but only knows names
Exactly, this is where she is wrong... but let her be happy! lol
Yep, and that’s why this video is BS. With music, you either have perfect pitch and during the process of learning the instrument you hear and recognize the notes on your own (without the need to do these types of exercises) or, you don’t, and therefore you literally CAN’T remember the note you heard in the first place, and when you can’t store that information, you won’t be able to do the exercises she mentioned and whatnot. In theory, this guideline would work, but IRL, you are either perfect pitch and don’t need it, or you’re not perfect pitch, and need to learn intervals (through many years of practice and experience) and with a baseline note (either if you have an instrument in hand, or with your own voice) detect the interval between the baseline note and the note you are hearing, and therefore calculate it this way.
Yeah one identifies red is red or whatever name it has, or no name for it. Perfect pitch is different, yes I know we call certain note C, doesn't mean I can identify it randomly.
Which color would be E in the western music scale ?
Perhaps you could initially start the exercise by using only the 7 basic notes irrespective of the scale. The semi tones could come later.. As you develop and practice your drills consisting of various combination of notes, you will notice your recognition of each individual note will get enhanced. There is no science for recognizing a note, you have to just drill it into your brain. Just like your parents and teachers drilled the names of various colors into your brain. Like learning a new language. Primary skill required is memorizing. Grammar can come later. That was my two bits worth. I played the sitar for many years.
Music is a very vast and elaborate subject. Learning completely takes whole life span. If learnt from childhood itself then it remains engraved in the mind for ever. If learnt later in grown up age there may remain some weaknesses. For playing few film songs or ghazals/bhajans based on sugam sangeet learning fully is not essential. Learning basics and practicing regularly is sufficient. Your colours pattern example is very good.
it's so much easier. still need to find the complete chart, of tones and scales.
Fellow BOC fan
One frustrating word that every teacher says
Practice
Everything needs practice. If you are learning an instrument, vocals or for that matter even studies. Everything requires practice for your experience so that you can put your own brain and master it completely.
@@youtubecommenter801 ''Practice makes it perfect ''
Yes it is frustrating. But frustrations arise because you are only fascinated not Devoted to music. Devotion came from blood and it can't be suppressed.
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Well, life is not ready-to-eat food and it won't come with manual! We just have to try and test it every day until we get it!
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Each & every small small things brief very beautifully, for basic learner.
It is just so clear. Love ❤️
Thanks a lot!
No
You don't need to memorize the sound of each swara
You just need to know the tonic or (sa) of the song
Based on the tonic Sa you need to find the notes in relation to it
It is almost impossible to memorize the notes unless you have perfect pitch which only 1 in 10000 people have
One in 1 lac people bro👍
thank you
Your tone is fantastic.
Likes ! , but Colours were so easy 😀.
Thanks a lot!
@@VoxGuru You are identifying intervals not notes. Sa could be C or it could be Bb. In your video you use note A for Sa.
The way to really identify a note by a fixed frequency. So the standard for A today is today is around 440 (432-440) but A# is around 466 a muc bigger difference.
You arbitrarily picked A so Ri and Ga are only relative.
But Sa is not always A.
So if you heard A it could be Sa or Ri or Ga etc depending on the raga.
Sa is not a note, it's any note
So if you hear A how can you tell it's A?
That is very hard to do for an adult not born with perfect pitch however some people can train themselves by picking one note on a piano as their basic note like A or C. Then everyday you play this one note, let's say C on an organ in every octave singing at the same time. Then you practice intervals like you do in this video so first you have been playing that C every day in several octave everyday. It's around 259 to 264 (very small range). The standard keyboard will be 261.63. Then you know what the interval N ni sounds like and can identify A
You are right, all Swaras a relative to Sa. You can hear a drone sound in the background which suggests where the Sa is. If this Sa changes, then all Swaras will change accordingly. The concept of movable Sa is something that needs special attention so haven't covered it here in this video. But yes, I have identified Swaras relative to the Sa. In classical music we usually stick to one Shruti throughout so that is a good place to start before experimenting with multiple shruthis.
Who knew music is also rocket science !!!! 🙄
Love it.
@@VoxGuru Actually I liked the fact that you chose not to cover the relative placement of Sa and thus kept it simple. And loved the way you analysed the process of conscious learning, pattern recognition, etc. Being a graphic designer myself I could very well relate to the example of colour identification! As for tone identification in fixed frequencies- it's virtually impossible to gain pitch perfection at a later age. But then again, if one can learn to identify one major scale- like you demonstrated with A major- with a little more effort one should be able to identify at least 7 out of 12 notes- A, B, C#, D, E, F#, G#, and this holds true for no matter what ones relative Sa is, for example if one starts Sa at B flat s/he will learn a different set of 7 notes, but it'd still be 7 out of 12... now that's like almost 60% of the battle won- isn't it!
I am a guitar 🎸 player but it’s helpful ... you’re good
Among the plethora of music taught progs , your talks make sense . Great way of teaching lady !
Applying this to learn piano. Thank you so much
Who wants that pratibha madam may sing lag ja gale as a cover song.. hit like👍🙏💖
Me too.
So far .... the best video I’ve found as a learner. Thanks. I’d love to explore more on this channel. Thanks.
Damn, this is actually so tough. Actually doing this for 3 weeks.
3 weeks!? Try 3 years at least if not 30
It's not difficult at all , I did it for almost 2 months and I nailed it ..
Keep patience you will surely ace it! 🙂
@@maanitamukherjee3915 I gave up on it half way. Did not see any progress and left it. Need so much patience.
Lots of Love, Regards, Respect and Pranaam to my dear dear Sister !! 🙏❤🙏
I need your kind permission to spread out such a fantastic video amongst them in Bengali language who cannot follow or understand English properly. I just want to translate this in Bengali for them. And that also obviously after using your name as the creator of this thought definitely.
Your permission is eagerly awaited. Thank you.
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Brilliant. For years I thought this skill was confined to specially gifted people. Thanks, I will now make humble and serious efforts to train my ears properly.
Thank you so much for this information, i was cursing myself as people seem to do this so effortlessly. (Though I'm certainly not even close the core demographic of the video.lol)
In step 4 how can we identify a particular swar . Eg- the same ma can become sa
Dear madam,
Namaskar.
You are a very good trainer.
God bless you a very very gloriuos future
3:56 is most important...
For her age, she seems to be a musical genius
Her English is crystal clear and surely marvelous
By learning from her, I can stop looking ridiculous
I must learn music for which teachers must bless!
mvvenkataraman
Now only I found your channel...so superb...I learned music but at point of time I skipped it...again by seeing your videos I feel I can learn it again.
This is the process: practice. If you follow this process for about 100 hours, it gets easier.
I couldn't identify even now... Wtevr note i want to say,, i start from Sa in my mind.... I cant randomly say the note
How to get notes of swara
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Kind of Do re Mi fa in western music.
Sa re ga ma pa dha ni sa
Sa ni dha pa ma ga re sa.
Absolutely wonderful technique............this has indeed helped me to indentify swaras without watching the keys,,,,, i tried random ragas.. These 4 steps are awesome. Thank you. God bless you Mam.
I'm unable to identify it. For any sound i feel like same octave can be used..
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Try downloading this app, and practice the basic exercises using numbers. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kaizen9.fet.android
So just think of Sa as 1, Ri is 2, Ga is 3 etc.
And the lowered versions of notes like 3 for example would be b3 (pronounced as "Flat Three") which is technically Ga2.
And raised would be, for example 4 would be #4 ("Sharp Fourth") which is Ma2
Welcome to the yet another episode of Why Was This Recommended For Me
Thanks a lot!
@@Sree180 sarcasm and respect do not go together, she did a good job and he is appreciating her work.
no bilkul nahi
@@Sree180 with all due respect.. even she was being sarcastic
very useful information. explained in the most simpler possible way. Thank you.
I can sing to the swara when I am given the note to sing. However, I can't predict a note by listening to it. How can I overcome that?
Same problem
Lol. I'm used to doremifahsolatido. I'm trying to relate
Me too and i want to learn them. Badly i wanna play guitar trying to. Make the best of lockdown
Very nicely explained, as to how to acquire different swaras knowledge. Thanks mam
Very nice mam👍👍
Don’t be fooled, developing perfect pitch doesn’t happen for everyone and take quite a bit of practice. I went to college for music education and not everyone could effectively identify pitches out of context.
I've heard that it is impossible to develop perfect pitch. You either have it or you don't. Maybe that is true, maybe not.
@@todd7416ify I’ve heard that too, but some say they’ve achieved it through work. Maybe they were born with it and just polished it up I really don’t know. I guess it comes down to which school of thought you belong to, but that’s an excellent point
Yeah, dont believ her, you cannot teach intelligence, the same way you cannot teach perfect pitch or musical talent, you are or not! What you can develop through practice is relative pitch by using pegs in your brain's clean wall, by using memory, using a constant position/sound in your throat and comparing it or counting the intervals, etc... but "seeing" the sounds, that cant be taught!
@@TerryGrancho. Agreed. I’ve yet to meet a single person who developed perfect pitch who did not have it as a child.
But a good relative pitch does the job too
It is the most easy and ancient method to learn music with perfect way possible..
I want to know how to increase voice quality. I mean all the notes to be perfect
I can tell u that.