Big fan of your reviews Dustin. Would appreciate a Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8 review and perhaps a comparison with the Tamron EF 15-30mm F2.8 G2 as well. Thank you.
Dustin Abbott, one of the most thorough reviewer out there. Finally 24mm equivalent in 4K for the EOS R. However for your birthday, a nice softbox is on me! 😁 You were struggling looking into that light.
Dustin Abbott I’m messing with you. But check this out. I use similar ones Fovitec - 19" Square Softbox for 600 LED Panels for Photo and Video www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y1D75DP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2OhhEbBN9E0S1
Stellar review as always. Glad to hear third party lenses gaining more support on the RF system, seemingly. I will make the plunge into RF territory by 2020. Also, thanks for focusing (pun intended) more in on actual autofocus performance on the third party offerings. I know I despise the autofocus performance on my EF Sigma 35mm Art, and have lost a great deal of confidence in Sigma as a result, eventhough the optics is stellar for the price. Anyway, looking forward to more great reviews in 2020. Cheers!
I bought 14mm and 85mm from Samyang throughout your review, less budget for now and i think is great deal at the moment. Samyang should pay you ads fee! Keep it up, sub and will follow you all time.
Hi Dustin. I have a RF16mm on canon R body but I´m not very pleased with it. My main body at the moment is a Sony A7IV and I was thinking on buy a ultrawide to the sony system and the 14mm for realestate and some closeup sports more dramatic portraits is a focal dist very attractive. In your opinion the samyang will provide better results than the RF lens? Thanks!
Great review. I saw you say @8:40 that this lens is less wide than the MF Samyang/Rokinon 14mm. That is confusing. How can both be 14mm lens and the AF version be less wide than the MF version?
Almost no lens is perfectly the focal length described. It can be rounded up or down a bit. The MF lens is a little wider than 14mm (115.7 degrees) while the AF lens is a little tighter (113.9 degrees)
I'd love to see a short comparison with the Samyang EF 14mm on that camera. I have this lens, and now I wonder if it's worth selling it to buy the RF version. Obviously you get autofocus, which is convinient but not a critical point for me on that kind of lens. But this RF lens seems way more compact than the EF version + adapter, once mounted on the camera. Also, image quality don't seem very different, but a side by side could be interesting. Anyway, thanks for that useful review !
great review. i'm looking for rear filters but it's impossible to find...... do you have an idea? may be the Irix filters would fit? and also, do you know if there is a difference between this lens and the new 14mm F 2.8 mkII?
@@DustinAbbottTWI excellent ! can't wait for your review. I have just ordered the lens and I am waiting for its delivery, I hope to find the filters quickly as well but here in France nobody distributes them .....
Nice review. Thanks to share this with everyone. Is this lens automatic focus also or just manual ? For me is it clearly a fantastic lens for vlogging with the Canon eos RP
Very accurate review! I have just bought the Sony FE version, this is optically the same as that, right? I am a bit unsure of returning it because of image sharpness, but after seeing this video I am thinking of keeping it. For the price I payed it is probably more than good.
Did Canon force Samyang to stop selling these RF lenses? I can't find these to buy anywhere and Canon said they weren't going to allow 3rd party manufacturers to make lenses for the RF mount
I don’t know that for sure. It’s been a long time since I reviewed that system, and I’m not sure that Samyang has stuck with it and continued to develop for it.
Dustin, great follow up! As a EOS R shooter is there any advantage of choosing the RF version over the EF version and using my adapter? The EF version is $100 cheaper and the Field of View reports around 115 degrees on the EF where the RF is around 113 degrees. Are the Optics comparable and will the EOS R recognize the EF version for auto correction in body like Chromatic Aberration and distortion? As an architectural photographer those are the things that matter to me. I will most likely use this on my Gimbal as well and therefore looking to see if there is a big weight difference for balancing with the RF version the EF attached to the adapter. I appreciate your input and these thorough reviews.
That's a tough question, as the Canon EF version is actually optically different, and I haven't tested it. You might want to find some reliable reviews of the EF version and make your determination based on that. AF won't be as good adapted, but frankly AF doesn't get torture tested much on a wide angle lens anyway.
Right now for RF, the best bet may be the Laowa 15mm F4.5 Shift lens I just reviewed. ruclips.net/video/LcVGU7YOjns/видео.html. For Sony APS-C, hmmm. There's no dedicated shift lens that I know of, but Laowa does make some of their Zero-D lenses for APS-C that have essentially no distortion: bhpho.to/3be2sgQ
Thanks again for this review Dustin. Let me understand if I am correct: This lens can be used as is on my Canon Eos R Mirrorless with all features of the camera retained? There is no need for an adapter, correct? For full frame Canon Eos R landscape photographers who need wider than the 24-105 this Samyang RF lens seems to be an excellent choice...and relatively inexpensive as well.
It's ironic I still have to turn off the peripheral ill. Corr. on the Eos R for my Tamron 85mm F1.8. If turned on it shows big grey circles on my pictures, EVF and screen. You'd expect them to have corrected this by now.
Ravencroft Maybe when they have native RF lenses that issue will go away. Seems like canon is willing to work with 3rd party better this time. In EF days developers need to reverse engineer everything as canon did not release any info to them.
@@HwL01 Canon is keeping the CR3 codec to themselves. Corel paintshop and many other programs still haven't got it. Now I have to use the Canon software.
When Manual focus is switched on the lens you have to select “release shutter without lens” in custom Cn5 :others “ otherwise the R will seize I have emailed Samsung who say ‘‘this is not a fault. Why have a switch on the lens? I have not purchased one because of this.. Anyone else have this problem.
I haven't seen that problem myself, but that may be because that is one of the first settings I change on every camera as I often review MF lenses without electronics. There's no harm to having that setting enabled, so Samyang is right in that sense.
Those snow landscape shots are AMAZING
Thanks!
Love Dustin Abbott. His reviews are always so detailed and honest.
Glad you like them!
Big fan of your reviews Dustin. Would appreciate a Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8 review and perhaps a comparison with the Tamron EF 15-30mm F2.8 G2 as well. Thank you.
I'll cover the Canon lens once one becomes available. I'm somewhat dependent on Canon to provide them. I'll be covering the 85mm F1.2L next.
I much prefer your style of review compared to the others out there. Your reviews have helped me tailor my upcoming investment in a Sony system.
Thank you very much.
Dustin Abbott, one of the most thorough reviewer out there. Finally 24mm equivalent in 4K for the EOS R. However for your birthday, a nice softbox is on me! 😁 You were struggling looking into that light.
I use LED panels now, so softboxes aren't really a part of that equation.
Dustin Abbott I’m messing with you. But check this out. I use similar ones Fovitec - 19" Square Softbox for 600 LED Panels for Photo and Video www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y1D75DP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2OhhEbBN9E0S1
Stellar review as always. Glad to hear third party lenses gaining more support on the RF system, seemingly. I will make the plunge into RF territory by 2020. Also, thanks for focusing (pun intended) more in on actual autofocus performance on the third party offerings. I know I despise the autofocus performance on my EF Sigma 35mm Art, and have lost a great deal of confidence in Sigma as a result, eventhough the optics is stellar for the price. Anyway, looking forward to more great reviews in 2020. Cheers!
Fortunately that is an area where Sigma has improved, and their mirrorless offerings (the new designs) tend to be fairly flawless.
I bought 14mm and 85mm from Samyang throughout your review, less budget for now and i think is great deal at the moment.
Samyang should pay you ads fee!
Keep it up, sub and will follow you all time.
Well, if Samyang were paying me, these reviews wouldn't really be credible, would they? I like being independent.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I mean you got the business for them... at least for me bought 2 lenses from Samyang!
Enjoy them!
Hi Dustin. I have a RF16mm on canon R body but I´m not very pleased with it. My main body at the moment is a Sony A7IV and I was thinking on buy a ultrawide to the sony system and the 14mm for realestate and some closeup sports more dramatic portraits is a focal dist very attractive. In your opinion the samyang will provide better results than the RF lens? Thanks!
Yes and no. Much less distortion, much wider, and probably better in the corners, but the Canon lens is quite sharp in the center of the frame.
Great review.
I saw you say @8:40 that this lens is less wide than the MF Samyang/Rokinon 14mm. That is confusing. How can both be 14mm lens and the AF version be less wide than the MF version?
Almost no lens is perfectly the focal length described. It can be rounded up or down a bit. The MF lens is a little wider than 14mm (115.7 degrees) while the AF lens is a little tighter (113.9 degrees)
@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you. I understand not. That is a huge difference in FOV between the two 14mm lenses by the way.
I'd love to see a short comparison with the Samyang EF 14mm on that camera. I have this lens, and now I wonder if it's worth selling it to buy the RF version.
Obviously you get autofocus, which is convinient but not a critical point for me on that kind of lens.
But this RF lens seems way more compact than the EF version + adapter, once mounted on the camera.
Also, image quality don't seem very different, but a side by side could be interesting.
Anyway, thanks for that useful review !
It is definitely more compact and lighter. Unfortunately I won't be able to do that comparison. I have a very busy review schedule.
great review. i'm looking for rear filters but it's impossible to find...... do you have an idea? may be the Irix filters would fit?
and also, do you know if there is a difference between this lens and the new 14mm F 2.8 mkII?
Good news! I'm currently reviewing some new Haida rear mount filters made specifically for this lens.
@@DustinAbbottTWI excellent ! can't wait for your review. I have just ordered the lens and I am waiting for its delivery, I hope to find the filters quickly as well but here in France nobody distributes them .....
How do you get the lens correction data in the camera? Is it though EOS lens registration tool? Btw, fantastic review. Thanks!
It's just there automatically, actually.
Nice review. Thanks to share this with everyone. Is this lens automatic focus also or just manual ? For me is it clearly a fantastic lens for vlogging with the Canon eos RP
It is autofocus
Very accurate review! I have just bought the Sony FE version, this is optically the same as that, right?
I am a bit unsure of returning it because of image sharpness, but after seeing this video I am thinking of keeping it. For the price I payed it is probably more than good.
I do think they are the same optical formulas.
Did Canon force Samyang to stop selling these RF lenses? I can't find these to buy anywhere and Canon said they weren't going to allow 3rd party manufacturers to make lenses for the RF mount
They did. You can't buy it now, though it continues to be a great lens to have (if you have one!)
Much difference in glass quality comparing to MF EE mount? Not sure if I need autofocus lens, but the glass quality matters for me. Much appreciated.
This is supposed to be improved over the MF version, but its been some time since I've reviewed that lens.
Thanks for your detailed review .. can you do the test at R5 again and post ur opinion here plz ??
I have retested on the R5, and you can see a bit of those results in RF 15-35mm review
Is the 14mm 2.8 FE AF comparable to the sigma 14-24 in sharpness?
I would say the Sigma is sharper.
Thank you, I am trying to make the leap for a RE interior lens for small condos, and its $400 vs $1600 so it’s tough
Hi Dustin. Does the Samyang filter holder that snaps onto the front hood element for the EF mount that you previously reviewed work here also??
I don’t know that for sure. It’s been a long time since I reviewed that system, and I’m not sure that Samyang has stuck with it and continued to develop for it.
How would you say this compares with the Sony FE mount? I am considering getting this for my Sony.
It appears to be the exact same optical formula, so my observations should translate fairly well.
Did they ever make an rf update dongle?
Yes, though Canon has basically closed all the development paths on RF.
@ thanks, I just bought the lens yesterday locally, also in Wisconsin! Just hadn’t seen an update dongle for one, but it works great so far.
Is this lens compatible enough to show the focus distance scale in camera?
Yes it does.
Thank you for the vlog test, that's perfect.
You're welcome.
Dustin, great follow up! As a EOS R shooter is there any advantage of choosing the RF version over the EF version and using my adapter? The EF version is $100 cheaper and the Field of View reports around 115 degrees on the EF where the RF is around 113 degrees. Are the Optics comparable and will the EOS R recognize the EF version for auto correction in body like Chromatic Aberration and distortion? As an architectural photographer those are the things that matter to me. I will most likely use this on my Gimbal as well and therefore looking to see if there is a big weight difference for balancing with the RF version the EF attached to the adapter. I appreciate your input and these thorough reviews.
That's a tough question, as the Canon EF version is actually optically different, and I haven't tested it. You might want to find some reliable reviews of the EF version and make your determination based on that. AF won't be as good adapted, but frankly AF doesn't get torture tested much on a wide angle lens anyway.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I appreciate the quick response. Sounds like this could be your part 3 in the test ;)
Thx a lot for sharing a gud review.
You’re welcome.
What is the BEST LENS for Real State Photography for Sony APSC & Canon RF mounts?
Right now for RF, the best bet may be the Laowa 15mm F4.5 Shift lens I just reviewed. ruclips.net/video/LcVGU7YOjns/видео.html. For Sony APS-C, hmmm. There's no dedicated shift lens that I know of, but Laowa does make some of their Zero-D lenses for APS-C that have essentially no distortion: bhpho.to/3be2sgQ
which is best for astrophotography this or sigma 14mm f1.8 art? how is it in a coma?
The Samyang has better CA control.
@@DustinAbbottTWI assurance? i use sigma 14mm f1.8 art and i never had any CA problem
Very helpful! Thanks!
My pleasure.
love my irix 11. never used 14mm after that
Interesting. What kind of shots do you use your 11mm for? I often find that anything wider than 14mm is too wide for me in most situations.
i sell commercial street shots the subject dominates the background i.e customer in a train station or store@@DustinAbbottTWI
Does this lens equate to the image quality - autofocus capability of the Samyang AF 14mm f/2.8 lens with Sony E mount?
Sorry, you answered the question below - I missed your answer...
At least you read on!
Thanks again for this review Dustin. Let me understand if I am correct: This lens can be used as is on my Canon Eos R Mirrorless with all features of the camera retained? There is no need for an adapter, correct? For full frame Canon Eos R landscape photographers who need wider than the 24-105 this Samyang RF lens seems to be an excellent choice...and relatively inexpensive as well.
That is correct
It's ironic I still have to turn off the peripheral ill. Corr. on the Eos R for my Tamron 85mm F1.8. If turned on it shows big grey circles on my pictures, EVF and screen. You'd expect them to have corrected this by now.
Ravencroft Maybe when they have native RF lenses that issue will go away. Seems like canon is willing to work with 3rd party better this time. In EF days developers need to reverse engineer everything as canon did not release any info to them.
@@HwL01 Canon is keeping the CR3 codec to themselves. Corel paintshop and many other programs still haven't got it. Now I have to use the Canon software.
That is pretty ridiculous at this point regarding the SP85. I do think the story will be different when Tamron starts releasing RF native lenses.
@Revencroft - I'm surprised about the CR3 issue. I've run into no problems in Lightroom or Photoshop
Ravencroft on the other hand you can update the lens' firmware via tamron dock and then that issue will go away too.
here before 100k subs
Hopefully not long before ;)
@@DustinAbbottTWI ayyeee you hit it! Congrats man that’s huge!!!
When Manual focus is switched on the lens you have to select “release shutter without lens” in custom Cn5 :others “ otherwise the R will seize I have emailed Samsung who say ‘‘this is not a fault. Why have a switch on the lens? I have not purchased one because of this.. Anyone else have this problem.
I haven't seen that problem myself, but that may be because that is one of the first settings I change on every camera as I often review MF lenses without electronics. There's no harm to having that setting enabled, so Samyang is right in that sense.