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Superman's line that he "rope a doped" Jax-Ur is actually brilliant. "Rope a dope" was one of famed boxer Muhammad Ali's signature strategies. Ali would lean against the rope, arms up in defense, pretending he was overwhelmed, and let his opponent pummel him. His opponent would assume this was their chance to end the match, and absolutely lay into Ali. However as Ali was leaning back against the ropes, the ropes were absorbing much of the punches' force. The opponent would tire, and then Ali would jump out on the attack. Why does this matter so much? DC once put out the comic _"Superman Vs Muhammad Ali",_ where Superman was first trained in boxing by Ali himself, and then actually boxed against him. (without powers, of course) So Superman is not simply *familiar* with Ali's moves and strategies, he literally learned them directly from the source!
@NoOne-ev7vj Initially no. His contingencies are more "In case something happens we need to stop them." Note that most seek to incapacitate, with death being a last resort. While he might not admit it, the League becomes friends, especially Clark and Diana.
When the Justice League is in trouble, they call for Batman and he always delivers. When Batman is in trouble, you have the Justice League, the Bat Family, the Titans, Phantom Stranger, Specter, and the Endless to back him up, to no avail.
@@valeria262 Constantine: Oh Bats is calling me... Let me guess, Zatanna is in trouble? Batman: ... I know she's with you. Constantine: Nothing ever escapes you, doesn't it?
Something I wanna see for another World’s Finest story someday is Batman and Superman trading cities: Batman fights crime in Metropolis while Superman helps the people of Gotham.
There's at least one scene where they do this. Bats divines it's because Supes thinks it's good practice. Gotham is full of lead-filled painted hampering Supers vision, while Metropolis is bright and low on shadows for Bats to lurk in. I don't remember if the issue continues from that scene or moves on to a different plot but it was released somewhere between 2009 and 2012 (if you want to search the archives I would suggest starting somewhere between issues 15 and 40)
There was an animated series episode where Batman was missing and Superman disguises himself as Batman for a night to help Tim Drake deal with things. Bane was not prepared.
Everyone knows that Superman is the symbol of the Justice League and batman is the real leader, still i love this portrayiof them, which the movies did the same.
@shadowki5687 Yeah, it is a little confusing because of his pronunciation throughout the video. He says Jor El and would likely say Kal El, putting the brief pause/space between the syllables, but runs Jax Ur's name together as Jaxxer. I was just listening to the video and had to actually look at it a little bit in because I wasn't sure who he was talking about lol. Still a good video though. Love recaps like this because I love the stories and characters but can't justify the cost of the books anymore.
This was good; reminded me more of the world's finest's relationship from when I was a kid (though atthe end still a bitof the modern paranoid/contingency plan Batman). I hadn't realized DC had (yet) rebooted again. Good to see the classic looks too. Hopefully this hasn't be rebooted again to something less familiar (to me).
Superman is one of the most intelligent characters in the DC universe, but the writers don't know how to explore this and turn the character into a body without a brain and with only muscles.
How do you have Superman as he is supposed to be without him solving all the problems for everybody? It's my biggest complaint with the character, you literally cannot be consistent with him, especially in the larger DC or most stories just don't happen.
@@Hyperdragon1701 yeah I'm putting my bets on the guy who can pull off _exploding chewing gum_ effectively, over the gal who relies on exploding microchips implanted in her unwilling minions.
I like Batman and Superman friendly stories, they are the top heroes of their world, but must be VERY hard to write good stories where Superman cannot win alone. The same to Justice League. That's why the League must always be fighting absolutely cosmic threats that demands you to be in more than one place at time because in any other way, Superman don't need them. In almost all Batman-Superman stories they forget the facts that: Superman can think fast than any human, He can memorize the whole genome (all nucleotide order) of a being. He can reconstruct a high complex machine just seeing it once. And his Fortress has technology from MANY GALAXIES, so any problem he can take a god ex-machina science from there. It is impossible don't see that he many times just let Batman do his thing.
I'm guessing this story is set early in their friendship, but I feel like writers often forget that fighters like Batman & Black Canary trained Superman in hand to hand under red solar energy. Nothing fancy, just a crash course in "Don't Die Immediately 101"
This is the reason why Superman versus Batman was such a Stupid movie!! People actually think the Batman would be such a Petty Ass Loser with such a Fragile Ego. That he would Attack Superman just because he didn't get to Fight the Aliens Who Are Kryptonian's like Superman.🤣🤮 It would Never happen because Batman is just too Damn Smart and if anything, he would've been planning to Attack the Kryptonian's if it ever came back to help Superman. For how dangerous the Batman is supposed to be there is no way that what happened.
@@Fanimati0n You're forgetting something Superman versus Batman was in the comics it also came out as an animated movie. But without Wonder Woman or Doomsday before Snyder made his movie. They added Wonder Woman into the movie, so that Batman would have someone to give him back up. when Superman was down from Doomsday's Attack otherwise Doomsday would've simply killed him which would've really screwed up the movie.🤣 I liked Justice League but I didn't like Ezra Miller that played the Flash. His Flash was just plain Stupid.
If David Corenswet is playing Superman, Do you think Richard Madden should play Batman in James Gunn DC projects in the DCU or if we're getting an older version of Batman then do you think Jake Gyllenhaal, Jensen Ackles, Michael Fassbender, Brett Dalton or Oliver Jackson Cohen should play Batman?
Villain: What will that mere mortal do? Throw a Batarang at me. *Batman uses a well thought of plan utilizing the Villain's weakness then sleeps with their hench woman for good measure.*
Always find it really stupid when they do the shows up and ) shows up and beat Superman in a fight for two reasons. 1. When they say because they're trained soldiers and Superman l. Which makes no sense because he's been fighting with those abilities for far longer than them. 2. Decades of growing up under satellite to get a lot of his power yet kryptonians show up and their immediately power boosted up to his level.
I mean in this comic superman admits to rope-a-doping. He's purposefully losing to get Jax-ur into position. Batman just thinks his fake losing isnt good enough.
@marzero116 The difference is that Kryptonian villains like Zod, Faora, Ursa, and Jax have combat training, while Supes doesn't, so them having said training *combined with* them having all of the powers that he has would give them an edge over him, making it tricky for Supes to handle one of them.
@@OptimegatrongodzillaYea but according to plenty of superman stories and even this one, they need time to adapt to the sun which Superman had his whole life done.
@@Optimegatrongodzilla I also forgot to mention that people on Krypton are under a red sun meaning they don't have powers, that means Jax-ur should be learning his new abilities on top of that while Superman already knows everything like second nature to him.
@@FrostDJakki3529🤦♂️ Superman is not “weak” to magic, he is just affected by it like any other person. His only true weakness is Kryptonite, and even that in some versions of him has little to no effect on him. If you want to learn about what is the definition of broken, read up on Cosmic armor Superman.
This is why its so weird that Batman considers Superman(not The Joker) as his greatest nemesis.When Supes doesnt even think like that.Injustice Superman is not Superman.
Obviously he has utmost faith, batmans plot armor lets him do literally anything beyond what any human can achieve and all super powered heroes must be pieces of shit to ensure that power fantasy remain intact. Amazing how this always has to turn into a batman fanboy fanfiction, begs the question why the hell does the rest of the dc universe exist anymore
Exactly. That's one thing I've never quite understood. Why are Kryptonians that are new to a yellow sun capable of going toe to toe with Supes after only minimal exposure? Obviously it's for the story but Superman has been under a yellow sun since he was a baby. He should easily outclass every other Kryptonian in terms of sheer power. And DC retconned his origin after the original Crisis so his powers didn't kick in until he hit puberty, which would mean his body had to soak up solar radiation for at least ten years, so why do other Kryptonians develop them almost immediately upon exposure to a yellow sun?
There was mutual respect in this comic but that’s not what happened at all in this comic as Batman was a side character throughout most of the fight. In fact it was Superman’s intelligence that was actually put on display over his super powers as Superman actually outsmarted his opponent instead of using brute strength like he often does. Superman “Rope-a-doped” Jaxor. If you don’t know what that means it is a Muhammad Ali boxing terminology of tricking a boxing opponent as he punches you while you relax against the ropes. This means Superman was letting him beat him as the trap was being set. Keep in mind Superman is about minimizing loss of life and this guy is a mass murderer. If Superman had fought him to the end, he would’ve likely won as Superman has much more experience with his powers but that would also mean potential loss of many lives during that fight. By using his mind and tricking him back to the Phantom Zone with Batman, he was able to save the day without casualties. Batman’s comment at the end should’ve clued you in that it was Superman’s idea followed by his comment about him using Ali’s rope-a-dope strategy.
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This video!
@@thatguyzero I liked it.
Superman's line that he "rope a doped" Jax-Ur is actually brilliant. "Rope a dope" was one of famed boxer Muhammad Ali's signature strategies. Ali would lean against the rope, arms up in defense, pretending he was overwhelmed, and let his opponent pummel him. His opponent would assume this was their chance to end the match, and absolutely lay into Ali. However as Ali was leaning back against the ropes, the ropes were absorbing much of the punches' force. The opponent would tire, and then Ali would jump out on the attack.
Why does this matter so much? DC once put out the comic _"Superman Vs Muhammad Ali",_ where Superman was first trained in boxing by Ali himself, and then actually boxed against him. (without powers, of course) So Superman is not simply *familiar* with Ali's moves and strategies, he literally learned them directly from the source!
Dude that's 2 different continuities, calm down and take the meat out
That was old canon. They've dropped almost all of old canon in favor of their retcons.
@@krevor4095 It's still a funny call back.
@@krevor4095 Nah screw that, that all versions of Superman got trained by Muhammad Ali because that’s more fun
@@krevor4095 They recently had the Heroes inherit memories of all their Gold/Silver/etc age mainline world versions. Sooo...
I love how the strongest league members have absolute faith in Batman's unwavering determination
"That man won't quit so long as he can draw a breath."
Seriously. That determination was once enough to intimidate, and therefore impress, Darkseid himself.
Just makes it that much sader that batman doesn't really trust any of them.
@NoOne-ev7vj Initially no. His contingencies are more "In case something happens we need to stop them." Note that most seek to incapacitate, with death being a last resort. While he might not admit it, the League becomes friends, especially Clark and Diana.
@@NoOne-ev7vjThis why Justice League Unlimited Batman was the best. The only iteration to trust his teammates and still be paranoid at the same time.
…So we’re just gonna ignore that Alfred is Butlering so hard that he fing astral projects himself to Bruce’s side to help him?
just goat things yk
Alfred’s determination to help Bruce cannot be stopped
Batman learned his plot armor ability from Alfred. It's advanced butlering skillz
No one can butler like Alfred “80 year best butler award receiver” Pennyworth
You gotta love the bromance between these two and the epic clasp of bro fist is the best call back to Arnold’s and Weathers’s moment from predator
ahh world's finest
so much better than fighting each other
So true. 😌
Your talking about Batman v Superman and the injustice series aren’t you
Clark and Bruce are like brothers with nothing but understanding and respect
Facts
Im waiting for that one contrarian to say "no their relationship is pretty mid and makes no sense" or something. 😂
I can see why Batman hates when Superman carries him like Lois 😂😂😂
Worlds Finest handshake 😂
9:27 The super dap-up
When the Justice League is in trouble, they call for Batman and he always delivers.
When Batman is in trouble, you have the Justice League, the Bat Family, the Titans, Phantom Stranger, Specter, and the Endless to back him up, to no avail.
He also has Constantine probably on Speed Dial if weird Magic Stuff happens.
@ShadowReignhart he'd probably go to Zatanna first who'd put him in touch with John if the situation called for him
@@valeria262 Constantine: Oh Bats is calling me... Let me guess, Zatanna is in trouble?
Batman: ... I know she's with you.
Constantine: Nothing ever escapes you, doesn't it?
Something I wanna see for another World’s Finest story someday is Batman and Superman trading cities: Batman fights crime in Metropolis while Superman helps the people of Gotham.
There's already an old world's finest comic like this
@ How old are we talking?
There's at least one scene where they do this. Bats divines it's because Supes thinks it's good practice. Gotham is full of lead-filled painted hampering Supers vision, while Metropolis is bright and low on shadows for Bats to lurk in.
I don't remember if the issue continues from that scene or moves on to a different plot but it was released somewhere between 2009 and 2012 (if you want to search the archives I would suggest starting somewhere between issues 15 and 40)
There was an animated series episode where Batman was missing and Superman disguises himself as Batman for a night to help Tim Drake deal with things. Bane was not prepared.
@ oh I know
Batman is Superman’s Alfred.
7:08 Edna Mode: NO CAPES!
Everyone knows that Superman is the symbol of the Justice League and batman is the real leader, still i love this portrayiof them, which the movies did the same.
i would say Superman is the heart of the JL while Batman is the brain both essential to the JL which wouldnt operate correctly without both
That was a REALLY good comic
I wish more media would do this stuff. I tire of the DC emo stuff
How a mere mortal could do this.
Batman: Cuz I am Batman!
Batman and Superman: Bros for life. 🎉
0:26 Nope, not with a name that stupid. 😂
What's weird is that's his full kryptonian name Jax(first) ur(family name)
Xena would kick his butt.@@shadowki5687
@shadowki5687 Yeah, it is a little confusing because of his pronunciation throughout the video. He says Jor El and would likely say Kal El, putting the brief pause/space between the syllables, but runs Jax Ur's name together as Jaxxer. I was just listening to the video and had to actually look at it a little bit in because I wasn't sure who he was talking about lol. Still a good video though. Love recaps like this because I love the stories and characters but can't justify the cost of the books anymore.
This was good; reminded me more of the world's finest's relationship from when I was a kid (though atthe end still a bitof the modern paranoid/contingency plan Batman). I hadn't realized DC had (yet) rebooted again. Good to see the classic looks too. Hopefully this hasn't be rebooted again to something less familiar (to me).
Superman with Batman's hand to hand combat training would be something.
That was an odd ending considering Superman’s fight training starts next week
God. The prisoner riddle was brilliant!
Superman is one of the most intelligent characters in the DC universe, but the writers don't know how to explore this and turn the character into a body without a brain and with only muscles.
Looking at Batman's suit, it looks like it's earlier on in their lives. They're younger so ofc they haven't gotten the experience to be smarter yet
How do you have Superman as he is supposed to be without him solving all the problems for everybody? It's my biggest complaint with the character, you literally cannot be consistent with him, especially in the larger DC or most stories just don't happen.
Here comes a Death Battle between Nick Fury from Marvel vs Amanda Waller from DC. Who do you guys think would win?
Remember this is just for fun.
nick fury, from what i know he is a trained fighter
Same as batman .-.@@Idonotexist-k4l
Fury for sure
In a Brawl? Fury no question. With all of their Arsenal? Still Fury.
@@Hyperdragon1701 yeah I'm putting my bets on the guy who can pull off _exploding chewing gum_ effectively, over the gal who relies on exploding microchips implanted in her unwilling minions.
9:32
The one thing more terrifying than Superman is Superman with Batman's skill in hand-to-hand combat
superbat would be terrifying indeed
I like Batman and Superman friendly stories, they are the top heroes of their world, but must be VERY hard to write good stories where Superman cannot win alone. The same to Justice League. That's why the League must always be fighting absolutely cosmic threats that demands you to be in more than one place at time because in any other way, Superman don't need them. In almost all Batman-Superman stories they forget the facts that: Superman can think fast than any human, He can memorize the whole genome (all nucleotide order) of a being. He can reconstruct a high complex machine just seeing it once. And his Fortress has technology from MANY GALAXIES, so any problem he can take a god ex-machina science from there. It is impossible don't see that he many times just let Batman do his thing.
Funny how the villans wait for batman to not be around, they fr fear him more than Superman
I'm guessing this story is set early in their friendship, but I feel like writers often forget that fighters like Batman & Black Canary trained Superman in hand to hand under red solar energy.
Nothing fancy, just a crash course in "Don't Die Immediately 101"
Ah yes, the old empty gun trick. Not like kryptonians have x-ray vision or anything.
🎶Jax-Ur. He's Jax-Ur the Miiiiighty!🎵😜
Who was that alien Alfred saw?
Well he does a contingency for all of them and clarks knows
This is the reason why Superman versus Batman was such a Stupid movie!!
People actually think the Batman would be such a Petty Ass Loser with such a Fragile Ego. That he would Attack Superman just because he didn't get to Fight the Aliens Who Are Kryptonian's like Superman.🤣🤮
It would Never happen because Batman is just too Damn Smart and if anything, he would've been planning to Attack the Kryptonian's if it ever came back to help Superman.
For how dangerous the Batman is supposed to be there is no way that what happened.
Hack Snyder has absolutely no idea how to write heroes let alone Batman or Superman
@@Fanimati0n
You're forgetting something Superman versus Batman was in the comics it also came out as an animated movie. But without Wonder Woman or Doomsday before Snyder made his movie.
They added Wonder Woman into the movie, so that Batman would have someone to give him back up. when Superman was down from Doomsday's Attack otherwise Doomsday would've simply killed him which would've really screwed up the movie.🤣 I liked Justice League but I didn't like Ezra Miller that played the Flash. His Flash was just plain Stupid.
It would be nice if you mentioned the comics
There is an amazon link in the description leading to the specific comic. Just two clicks away
@Selnathorn Oh i missed that somehow. Thank you very much
Which comic series was this?
Batman-Superman World's Finest.
If David Corenswet is playing Superman, Do you think Richard Madden should play Batman in James Gunn DC projects in the DCU or if we're getting an older version of Batman then do you think Jake Gyllenhaal, Jensen Ackles, Michael Fassbender, Brett Dalton or Oliver Jackson Cohen should play Batman?
Best friends
Villain: What will that mere mortal do? Throw a Batarang at me.
*Batman uses a well thought of plan utilizing the Villain's weakness then sleeps with their hench woman for good measure.*
I missed the part Alfred in phantom zone
Always find it really stupid when they do the shows up and ) shows up and beat Superman in a fight for two reasons.
1. When they say because they're trained soldiers and Superman l. Which makes no sense because he's been fighting with those abilities for far longer than them.
2. Decades of growing up under satellite to get a lot of his power yet kryptonians show up and their immediately power boosted up to his level.
I mean in this comic superman admits to rope-a-doping. He's purposefully losing to get Jax-ur into position. Batman just thinks his fake losing isnt good enough.
@marzero116
The difference is that Kryptonian villains like Zod, Faora, Ursa, and Jax have combat training, while Supes doesn't, so them having said training *combined with* them having all of the powers that he has would give them an edge over him, making it tricky for Supes to handle one of them.
@@OptimegatrongodzillaYea but according to plenty of superman stories and even this one, they need time to adapt to the sun which Superman had his whole life done.
@Soulfin I know, but them having combat training would still give them an edge over Supes to *some extent* .
@@Optimegatrongodzilla I also forgot to mention that people on Krypton are under a red sun meaning they don't have powers, that means Jax-ur should be learning his new abilities on top of that while Superman already knows everything like second nature to him.
Kandor not condor 🤣
Artist name?
Who is gonna win if Superman from DC movies fight Hela from Thor Ragnarok?
Well Hela uses a type of magic that makes her the goddess of death And Superman is weak against magic.
🤔Think about it.
@@FrostDJakki3529But the DCEU Superman seems to have some resistance over magic. He could shrug off the Lasso of Truth's effect
DCEU Superman vs MCU Hela? Hela stomps hard.
@@FrostDJakki3529🤦♂️
Superman is not “weak” to magic, he is just affected by it like any other person.
His only true weakness is Kryptonite, and even that in some versions of him has little to no effect on him.
If you want to learn about what is the definition of broken, read up on Cosmic armor Superman.
@@GothamsMostTrusted depends on what variation we're talking about
Did well, except you need to look up the pronunciation of connive.
This is why its so weird that Batman considers Superman(not The Joker) as his greatest nemesis.When Supes doesnt even think like that.Injustice Superman is not Superman.
So is alfread still trapped inside?
World's Finest
Then came injustice...and Batman regretted it.
That's no canon. Get out poser.
Obviously he has utmost faith, batmans plot armor lets him do literally anything beyond what any human can achieve and all super powered heroes must be pieces of shit to ensure that power fantasy remain intact. Amazing how this always has to turn into a batman fanboy fanfiction, begs the question why the hell does the rest of the dc universe exist anymore
Batman said triggered 😂
He shouldn't be anywhere near supermans level in terms of strength or adaptiveness with his powers
Exactly. That's one thing I've never quite understood. Why are Kryptonians that are new to a yellow sun capable of going toe to toe with Supes after only minimal exposure? Obviously it's for the story but Superman has been under a yellow sun since he was a baby. He should easily outclass every other Kryptonian in terms of sheer power. And DC retconned his origin after the original Crisis so his powers didn't kick in until he hit puberty, which would mean his body had to soak up solar radiation for at least ten years, so why do other Kryptonians develop them almost immediately upon exposure to a yellow sun?
@Darkest2Knight the only advantage of give them against superman is hand to hand combat that's it
I hate DC , y'all always have to glaze batman and make other heroes look like shit
There was mutual respect in this comic but that’s not what happened at all in this comic as Batman was a side character throughout most of the fight. In fact it was Superman’s intelligence that was actually put on display over his super powers as Superman actually outsmarted his opponent instead of using brute strength like he often does. Superman “Rope-a-doped” Jaxor. If you don’t know what that means it is a Muhammad Ali boxing terminology of tricking a boxing opponent as he punches you while you relax against the ropes. This means Superman was letting him beat him as the trap was being set. Keep in mind Superman is about minimizing loss of life and this guy is a mass murderer. If Superman had fought him to the end, he would’ve likely won as Superman has much more experience with his powers but that would also mean potential loss of many lives during that fight. By using his mind and tricking him back to the Phantom Zone with Batman, he was able to save the day without casualties. Batman’s comment at the end should’ve clued you in that it was Superman’s idea followed by his comment about him using Ali’s rope-a-dope strategy.
❄️
Please stop doing the voices.
Ignore him. Never stop doing the voices.
how about you pull the rod out of your ass (not replying to neptune btw)
You could've just turned down the volume or something.
You could like not watch the video
I hope he keeps doing the voices