California was an ISLAND??
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Hey Hunters,
Did you know that for 100s of years there was an argument over whether or not California was an island?
Was it simply continuous human error, or do the 800+ ancient maps showing this hold little clues about the pre-historical world?
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Enjoy
JJ
#ancientworld #maps #atlantis
The central valley of California was once a giant lake, referred to as Lake Corcoran. The estimation is that it existed over 600,000 years ago, but I no longer trust the official academic estimations and firmly believe that human history is far older than what we are taught in school. I enjoy your videos Jahanna! Thank you!
It was an inland sea as well, there are massive amounts of giant shark teeth just east of bakersfield.
I was going to mention the central valley, until I read your post. Thank you.
JG Boswell worked with the Army Corps of engineers to dam the Kern, Tule, Kaweia, Kings and other rivers to drain Tulare Lake, which was once navigable reaching from Corcoran to the Sacramento delta. It gained him massive flat, fertile farmland for growing his cotton, and made the Boswell Co. rich with water rights.
I wonder, I know that our country once had an in-land see stretching all the way from Canada through Minnesota to the golf of Mexico. When it receded and glaciers melted, it left behind a massive lake called Lake Agassiz, which eventually became shrank down to became the great lakes. As to how long ago that was who knows because, like others have said, I think their timeline is seriously flawed.
Was also going to mention central valley . As someone from bakersfield alot of oil,shark teeth and evidence of ancient ocean. But also not so long ago very large freshwater wetlands(300 years). Native Americans had language used that suggested it was supper foggy. Boggy and wetlands in central valley which would he where your ocean is showing. (Not an expert just a local)
Haven't read all the comments, so please excuse if anyone already said this. Just wanted to share what I learned recently:
1) I took a trip to Sonora, CA recently (near Yosemite, one of the first silver mining towns). I found public records describing how they would move the silver by boat from Sonora to Yuma (last city in CA by the Mexico border at the base of the Sultan Sea and where the Colorado river empties into the ocean). In the same records it discussed the quantities of raw silver/gold Mexico had in its mountains and why it was necessary to take the territory from them, as well as specific family names.
2) Look at maps of the Colorado River flood plane before the Hoover Dam was built. It fed into the ocean and most times the region from Phoenix to Las Vegas were under water.
3) Casa Grande, AZ was the Convergence of 6 parts of the Colorado River before the Hoover Dam.
4) The Sultan Sea is a man made agricultural accident, not natural.
5) Francis Drake and a few other expeditions wrote of sailing the west coast of Mexico and the Baja Peninsula as far north as Santa Rosa on the coastal side. On the interior there are a few debates of the names of the indigenous towns.
6) The 4 Corners tribes (Navajo, Apache, Hopi) territories became infinitely more important if you look at their access of the Western US watershed maps pre Hoover Dam construction. They're basically the Convergence of every major River, mountain in the US.
7) The CA/AZ border is still a river with a bunch of native tribes still present. Towns like Lake Havasu, Blythe, Yuma, etc are all farming towns due to the low floodplain of the river
8)During the silver / gold rush (1850s, which led to CA becoming a state, etc) prospectors used to take boats from the East Coast through Panama (before the canal was constructed there was a railway build by the French) to get to the CA coast. This was due to the mountains being impassible,the difficulty of crossing the Colorado river and or course lastly all the "indigenous bandits" they would incur along the way.
Summary: The Silver motherloads discovered in Sonora, Carson City NV and other nearby mountain towns in the Sierra Mountain Range created the Morgan Silver dollar. That financed (among many other endeavors) the Panama Canal & Hoover Dam construction which cut off all the water to indigenous populations in CA, NV, AZ, NM. This move allowed easier travel on land for Western expansion, statehood, and construction of major land port cities, railroad, etc. Also easier naval travel to transport the gold/silver back to economic center of the US.
Hear me out:
1. Tectonic plates are highly active and huge in California
2. Sedona, Arizona was at one point under sea water and you can find sea shells there.
What if the plates shifted so much it basically closed the gap?
I don't know the first thing about geology, but it sounds like a convergent fault line, which is something that can raise the elevation of the land I believe. It wouldn't depend on sea level, it would be the actual crust rising. Maybe another thing to look into aside from flood maps.
@@paulhudgeonyt pretty sure tectonic plate movement doesn’t happen that fast.
There are two Tsunamis that are known to have hit the west coast USA from archaeological records. One about 900 AD, and a more well known of 1700 AD (before Europeans settled the area), both have records in China and the latter in Japan as earthquakes. With China being literate and keeping records for... About 3500 years. This means we can be pretty sure such an event of that magnitude would have had a recorded knock on effect in China. There is none. So if it happened, it would have been much much earlier. Well before maps and writing as we know it.
@@sgt.cricket7365Any of the predictions we have on the movement of tectonic plates are limited by the small time frame that we have actually observed their movement.
But not in recent times.
As someone that grew up in California, I remember being taught about Native American cultures and that there was a story that California was actually 5 or 7 different massive turtle islands. Each turtle was a different tribe and that they were not connected to the main land. The was a massive event that happened (I think it was an earthquake) that made all the turtles connect together and to the main land. So for me I can see that California being an island very possible. I would definitely look into Native American lore about this.
I love how you always bring a sense of fun and silliness to topics that some would find really boring. And you are not afraid to admit when you need more information. Love you and going with you on one of your trips to Egypt is on my bucket list!
I grew up in Southern California and went on to study geology, having an interest in cartography and am currently attending ASU for Geospatial Information Systems (I'm learning about satellite imagery because that's what I want to do in life- be a cartographer and geologist). Having gone on a few field trips to study the colorado plataeu, peninsular mountains, and salton trough: Yes, there was an ancient Ballena River system, an ancient Lake Cahuilla (Salton Sea), and the central valley ancient Lake Corcoran(?). It's so easy to imagine California being an island at some point. With the fault zone activity, the thermal areas (mud volcanoes around the Salton Sea are awesome to visit) and rising and sinking of the crust, rising and lowering of the ocean levels, etc, so much is new geologically. Thank you for your videos, Jahanna. I love having my mind blown by putting the dots together and discovering and learning about even older ancient civilizations in ways deeper than my education has taught me.
It looks like the San Andreas fault has moved about 1/2 a mile in the last 10,000 years that combined with the fact that the mountains wouldn't have been as high from the plates pushing together and what I saw on floodmap messing with the water levels on the current map could be enough to actually make it an island. I'm going to have to dig and see if I can find estimates for elevations back then to see the difference it would make. People tend to look at ancient, or even just older maps and see them from the prospective of our modern world when it is actually constantly changing slowly over time.
Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings, a book by Charles R Hapgood scientifically analyses the Piri Reis Map and comes to conclusion that the Piri Reis is actually very accurate on a lot of respects. The findings are backed up by the US Airforce (8th Reconnaissance Technical Squadron), who found that the coast of Antarctica represented on the map is correct even though it is currently submerged by ice one mile thick. So the area must have been mapped a very long time ago in prehistory! Anyone wishing to read this book, be warned, it is very scientific and not an easy read...
Just keep in mind that Hapgood was CIA and his version of crust displacement theory ended up killing off the whole study until just recently. Even Einstein signed the forward to his book (before it was completed), and this whole topic is covered in the "Chan Thomas" novel entitled The Adam and Eve Story. This also brings us to the topic of the 12 thousand year cyclical catastrophe and the really big stuff, so I will digress. But you are right about the source material, it's excellent to include in this study.
an dother shave debunked that map also..who to believe..too much fantasy around these things
I have read his work and loved every page. I think we go back in history way further than mainstream cares to either care about or acknowledge in fear of having to rewrite history books and change the accepted narrative. Thanks for mention the Sea Kings Maps as they are really amazing.
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I’m from central California and When I was a kid my brother and I would go out to my grandpas fields so he could irrigate and I remember finding all kinds of sea shells in the dirt. He couldn’t explain it. I wish he was around still so I could let him know why. Great video
I've been trying to escape this 'island' for years!!
I escaped. I’m still in financial recovery two years later, yet it’s already worth it. Extremely worth it. I wasn’t nearly as blind as the Californians around me when I left, but after leaving, I realize I was still a little blind to the insanity all around me. Do it. Get out.
@@benc2972 Yes, just don't take California politics elsewhere!!
@@ICU-mw7su That’s a silly thing to fear. California isn’t all weird corporatist democrats. Those crooks just locked down the electoral process and brainwashed the people. Plenty of people there are suffering as a result, and you should try to help them instead of telling them they’ve been idiots their whole lives, and you’re not comfortable with them in your community. Got news for ya though. That corruption is no longer unique to California. It’s coming for you whether Californians bring it or not. I’ve traveled the country now. I know what’s happening. It’s not as simple as a neighbor state filled with mouth breathers. There is a real enemy.
Just a thought, but being on a fault line, the land could've been elevated by geological processes in an extremely short period of time, redirecting flows of water and allowing them to dry out.
It would be possible if it were a subduction zone but the San Andreas doesn't do that. The Pacific and north American plates slide by each other on this side of the world.
Yes, this, ran to the comments to see if someone said it
That's what I'm thinking about. She mentioned raising the sea levels doesn't create the island effect, but we have to remember that the activity on fault lines does more than raise and lower the sea level. Lots of peculiar activity can occur. Isn't it a coincidence that this weird island is being depicted in exactly the location that is known to be extremely geologically active?
@@firebirdone03 At this point in time, yes, but in the past, there could have been different activity. If there were a divergent boundary, the continental crust would likely split right along the fault line and form an island in just the spot being depicted. With the Earth being as old as it is, I wouldn't be surprised if it had happened at least a couple of times.
San Diego, Los Angeles and Big Sur aren't even the continental US as they lie on the Pacific Plate. San Francisco, Sacramento and the Sierra Nevada are on the North American Plate. The two plates crisscross with dozens of active and passive earthquake faults, so I guess anything is possible.
*The reality is Earth's oceans are very shallow compared to it's diameter. Earth's diameter is over 7900 miles whereas the depth of the oceans only averages 2.3 miles. To put that in perspective, if Earth was the size of a standard globe you would be able to sop up all of the oceans with a single paper towel. With that in mind you can imagine it would only take a small change in the Earth's solid body to greatly redistribute the oceans.*
Could a change in the Earth's axis from an extraterrestrial impact cause upheaval to land masses? Are there Earth changes during a pole shift? I don't know. I do believe change can happen far more instantly and drastically than what is being taught with the continental drift theory.
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing!
Consider the possibility that the Pacific and Indian Oceans are impact craters.
@pyropulse that would depend on the size, shape and velocity of the impactor. Besides since the continents were sat once a single mass it would have taken a large mass to make the initial fracture. The mid Atlantic ridge actually starts at the north edge of the Pacific rim goes up over the pole down through the Atlantic and back up to the southern edge of the Pacific rim. To me that looks like an obvious fracture line. Beside the interior of the earth is liquid and or plastic because of the temperature. It would deform substantially before shattering. The crust is thin and hard so it fractures easily.
Having lived awhile in the Central Valley, the notion that it could have been filled with water at some point, making CA an island makes complete sense to me. I was told by the locals that it had been all swamp before it was farmed, so there was water there.
35k years ago, the Campi Flegrei super volcano blew in such a dramatic period that it caused an ice age that lasted almost until the Younger Dryas event 12.9k years ago. During the warm up prior to Younger Dryas, massive lakes formed from melt off. There were ice dams and when these went, features like the Washington Scablands, Dakota badlands, Grand Canyon and Rio Grande valley were either created or contributed to. The San Joaquin valley of California probably was either very moist or filled with water. These features were added to from the Younger Dryas melt off as well as the billions of tons of water flash boiled by the comet strike of 12.9k years ago. With that said....
The finding of Göbekli Tepe ruins the ages old belief that civilization only started 6k years ago. Göbekli Tepe is at least 12k years old and people living there were quite advanced. Were maps left behind when the Göbekli Tepe civilization collapsed ? That possibility cannot be ruled out.
A volcano at sea or on land?
You need the heat to evaporate the ocean's, to create the cloud's for it to snow for a 100 year's, your not getting no ice sheets without evaporation is all.
@@paulmansell8393 Campi Flegri blew up the same way Yellowstone in the movie 2012 blew up. It is actually a 5 volcano complex with a massive caldera in between. Go to the YT channel Geology Hub as a video was done on Campi just a few days ago. There is troubling uplift in the complex and the million plus people in Naples Italy might have to be evacuated.
@@The_Dudester this currently perceived crisis is a joke compared to (super) volcanoes.
Volcanoes are basically the last hurdle to become a planetary civilization.
I believe only about 10% of Gobekli Tepe has been uncovered so who knows what is yet to be found? Could be more of what has been found, incredible in its own right, or maybe even more incredible stone works which could very well give greater insight into the development of mankind.
I really like your channel. I love that people are challenging these academic paradigms.
I live on the coast of Central Cali I may make a video proving that california was at one point much more covered in ocean water. A few miles from the coast at least 100 feet up on the side of a mountain is a wall made of mostly sand dollars in a layer 20 t0 30 feet high.
lots of shark teeth near the kern river also.
@@AUMINER1 yup
Fern canyon in humboldt county is clear proof of massive flooding at some point.check out the cascadia subduction zone earthquakes, the neskowin ghost forest, and the orphan tsunami recorded by japan in The 1700s.that started here.there was a major seismic event in the 1700s
All you have to do is look at the Arizona Mesas for proof that the whole southwest was once a part of the ocean. Also If you look at the Salton Sea in southern California it's a man made accident that led to that discovery a long time ago. That's all salt water that was originally fresh water from the Colorado river that made that sea. That's evidence that the whole State was at some point covered with salt water all because of the salt deposits on the land in the Mojave area.
I came to the same conclusion. Fuzzy conclusion. There would have had to have been a massive elevation of land at a fairly rapid rate. There is a lot of evidence that suggests this did happen. In South America as well.
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I agree. I'm from Western Washington and did a little attention with Nick Zentner, a Geologist Teacher in Ellensburg, Washington on his RUclips Channel. He's been proposing Western Coast of Alaska, Canada, Washington, Oregon and California was land from Auckland and New Zealand (Saying Australia, (But I think Auckland and New Zealand) and having a Mexico Geology. He has found speculations of the Pacific Coast was running along Montana, Utah and Arizona or New Mexico. While this other land mass moved East as America moved West running into each other.
Thanks for mentioning Nick Zentner. He's a good source. His interpretation is a conveyor belt of islands moving into the west coast over very long geologic time scales - so yes at some point in time the west coast may have looked like that.
@Shimmy Shai Now what had me is at least 200 years ago the Owens Valley near the Majove Desert was filled with water. A Huge Lake, which miners shipped their late 1980's ore to Los Angeles by ships. So I am assuming the Mojave was a Lake at least 1,000 years ago (?)
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I remember Armoured Skeptic talking about this in one of his videos, I always found it really interesting how those four islands line up perfectly with those four mountain peaks.
@Shimmy Shai That's true, I don't know anything about this since I haven't looked into it myself. I just found that interesting, you could be absolutely right but it's interesting how all these different maps are accidentally wrong in the exact same way, unless they are all copying an old erroneous mother of maps.
@Shimmy Shai what motive would they have for lying though?
@@ryanparker4996 i was thinking the same thing, there is zero reason to make up things on a map you would use.
@@danpan6249 the only fake items on maps are "fake towns" that some cartographers use as a "stealth" watermark so they could see who was plagiarising their work. And history shows us, they dont really stay "fake" for long. Someone will come and open a strip mall using the fake town name, and now the town, is real
(This ACTUALLY HAPPENED but I forget where. There was an Episode of Map Men about it)
I have only recently found your channel and I have been diving deep into watching all your videos I just want to so you are intoxicating to watch and listen to. You could be describing what's in a box of cereal and everyone would watch, LOL! You have so much energy and kinda like this hot dorky girl next door into ancient history. Please keep the videos coming. Personally, I think we as in man have been around a LOT LONGER than what we have been told. Nice to see you have such an open mind and are CURIOUS about all this stuff.
It's definitely intriguing. 800+ detailed maps feels like a little more than a whoops, and especially since they had annotations all along the coastline as if someone had traversed it.
The 800+ maps may copy the first one, and update some places.
@@JacintoFranca it was the Tartarians!!
There weren't 800 surveys resulting in 800 maps. There were legends and maps before expeditions went out.
Look at ancient Greek maps. There is nothing below Libya but the Atlantic Ocean. There is no Scandinavia beyond the "Northern Ocean". The Caspian Sea drains into the Northern Ocean via a large bay. In reality everything drains into the Caspian Sea from the north and it is 1200 miles from the Arctic Ocean. Asia ends at India and Siberia doesn't exist.
It's almost like they were drawing from legends taught like a game of telephone/chinese whispers.
@@Markle2k I think the original map was the "Audiencia de Guadalajara, Nouveau Mexique, Californie, &c."of 1657.
It took 20 years to get the data, and there were some versions in that time.
The Spanish had already created cities up to Santa Fe, New Mexico, that appears in that map.
The West Coast of California was explored.
The East Coast of California didn't have names on it...
Therefore, I think the authors connected the known points, and created the island.
After that, this map was the official truth, following maps copied it, and everyone know California was an island...
until somebody they can trust proved it wasn't, and the king declared the new official truth.
@@JacintoFranca The East Coast of California is on the Sea of Cortez/Gulf of California. Both coasts of Baja California were explored by the mid-1500s about a decade after Cortez showed up and conquered Mexico. This is pretty well documented.
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It's pretty hard to believe they got the island thing wrong I mean you know when you see water.
It seams quite obvious that it was really the Baja California peninsula all the way up to Las Angeles. There are underwater channels where large amounts of water ran for years right around port Hueneme. Wrap that around through the Salton sea, right down to laguna Salada and you get the picture
As usual, awesome information. And that make up is lit!!
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I suspect the confusion resulted from the discovery of Baja California, which is a peninsula and could be mistaken for an island if it were not explored far enough north.
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🤣🤣🤣🤣.. I can't stop laughing at your comment because I read copious amounts of Graham Hancock when I was younger I started reading him when I was about 10 and I'd already read a lot of classic information from accredited Scholars, I was mocked left right and Center buy everybody including teachers for my deep interest in history maybe it just seems like younger people are interested in it now because there's a forum,, long story short I didn't take archaeology because it's an arts degree I took the Sciences instead geomatic engineering to be specific and around that time I totally throughout any belief in Graham Hancock he is not the originator of many of these theories he is a journalist who does not understand nor apply the scientific method,,, and the reason why people are more into him these days is because Ancient Aliens that god-awful show that bastardized history
My new favorite channel. Excellent food for thought.
Hi Jahannah,
While I don't necessarily believe California was ever an island, remember that beyond the rise and fall of sea levels, the west coast of North America is part of the Cascadia Subduction Zone; this is where one tectonic plate has caught on another and is bending up into the air, so about 300 miles of the west coast is about 340 feet higher than it should be. If you drop California down 300 feet or so, and factor in sea level, does anything change? The Cascadia Subduction Zone uncatches every 1600 years or so before catching again and begining the process over.
Awesome sauce! Some great information here. 🐵 It really is quite scary we’re due for another one. Hope we don’t drop 300 feet back down again. 😳
@@soapghost007 Yeah, here's hoping it's late. Lot of people on the coast... the estimate is that for at least a hundred miles of the [new] coast, there would be no clean water of power for at least 4 years.
Terrifying! I've had dream of seattle sinking.
You're about 500-1000 kms south. And the sea level doesn't change, the height of the land relative to the sea does. The Cascadia Subduction Zone is north of the Central Valley and runs up to Vancouver Island. It shows a bit more activity than every 1600 years. It's more like every few hundred years with the last one in 1700. That shows up in Native American lore and in Japanese tsunami records.
By the way, if some piece of land dropped by 300 feet in one go, you'd probably feel that earthquake on the other side of the planet. That would be like a magnitude 18 earthquake. Animals would be killed by the shear violence of the movement. You would see massive amounts of geological evidence, including fossils. Think more like 10 feet. Horizontal movement of the subducting plate can be nearly that large with the very largest of earthquakes.
The San Andreas fault is a strike-slip fault where plates are moving past one another. Sudden uplift is not typical, rifting is. Crystal Springs Reservoir and the separation of Baja California from Sonora are what are seen on large scales. This is the case of most faults in California.
The lake in the Central Valley is thought to have drained when the Carquinez Strait in SF Bay opened up.
@@Markle2k I did't say the sea level would change - though it would as it would have more land in it. What I meant about sea levels is including eustatic change from ice melt. Believe it or not, the land changeing level dramtically can cause flooding as rivers change course, the sea floos areas, etc. And no, it's not 10 feet, and there is ample archeological evidence. It is estimated to be above a magnitude 9 quake - more than a million times greater in intensity than a magnitude 5 quake - and results in a roughly 98 foot tsunami that crosses the Pacific to cause havoc on the other side of the planet. Don't want to be scared of it, that's your perrogative, but every since siesmologist in the world gets scared on the west coast of America for a reason.
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It’s really nice to see your channel growing. Every one of your videos I love. Thx Jahanna you make ancient history fun.
I've kind of been fascinated with history lately and came across your channel. I must say that you really have a way of making this interesting and helping us to understand the past. I'm going to retire in 22 months from working at a state college and I've thought of getting a degree in history and maybe being a teacher in my golden years! Keep up the good work!
The central valley was an inland sea at one point in the past, maybe a couple of different times. You can still board a boat in Sacramento and sail all the way out San Francisco bay and before the levies were built, Sacramento did frequently flood out to be a massive lake... Cheers from the Golden State gold country!!
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I'm fascinated by that ancient Chinese map!! Could you suggest Randall do a dig on Antarctica's possibility of having those animals at some point? Love these topic picks!! Great show!
if you are interested in that Chinese map.. go and check out a book by Gavin Mackenzie ''1421'' if you haven't already.. its fascinating..
I could tell you all about it. But could type for hours. A long time ago Antarctica was more north and had no ice.
If you extend the nasca lines around the planet you can see they are latitude and longitude lines. The one that is the biggest is the old equator before something happened. (Crazy thing is this ancient equator runs through many ancient sites you really should look into it). Anyway, when you tilt the earth so that the ancient equator is down the middle you will see Antarctica much more to the north.
At this time Australia was at the South Pole covered with a mile of ice (which is why it has flat mountains. )
@@Platerpus7 Wow! The ice wall theory suddenly makes no sense now! Thanks, that's great info.!
@yetioriginal IF they tell us about it- it would be awesome!
@@azharidris7092 I'll check it out. Thank you!
Nicely presented and in a humorous way. Thanks!
Looking forward to it.. Little bit to the west.. Pigmy mammoths, post YD. On a small island that was part of the initial landmass pre-YD, I think. Randall talked about it at one point. But they may have evolved to be smaller as a result of the food shortages post YD .. You can go to the source for clarification! .. Yet more crazy! Oh, please ask about the English Channel!.. I already know, but it's Dry Falls level crazy.. You'll enjoy it,,, Also a good addition/dimension to your Dongerland info. :) Maybe you've already covered it..
Good information Johanna! Thank-you!
It is entirely possible that portions of California had major uplifts in ancient history, with tectonic plate movements and volcanic activity lands can raise and lower.
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Hey, really interesting work here. I will add my own insight here, which is that prehistorically the inland of North America WAS a giant system of shallow ponds and lakes, created by BEAVERS, a landscape which largely no longer exists because of the extensive trapping. This could explain why later explorers couldn't find it! Also, the central valley was basically a similar complex of lakes and ponds and marshes leading all the way to the estuaries at the sea of cortez. This was changed very recently by the diverting of water from the Sacramento Valley to LA with the creation of the aqueduct at the beginning of the 20th century.
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Hi, I’m a professional geologist in California. During the Pleistocene, sea levels were much lower due to so much water locked up in the ice sheets. If mapping California as an island, it would have to have been done much earlier, like during the age of the dinosaurs (the Mesozoic era). The Central Valley of California used to be an inland sea during this time. However, more recently, in the early 1860s, the Central Valley flooded making a lake 300 miles long and 20 miles wide (see Smithsonian article on this or the AEG book I was editor for). The San Francisco delta is one of the few inland deltas in the world (unlike the sea facing deltas of the Nile and Amazon) and it’s an extensive delta. The inland delta means flooding can occur more easily. Perhaps, this is a plausible explanation for why some early maps identified California as an island.
Just throwing it out there, could the land mass of California in the past have sat lower than it is today allowing it to be cut off from the mainland, and through time due to the land mass sitting on 2 tectonic plates been pushed up to it's current position?
You have charisma and personality, plus great video editing so you could be reading actuary statistics or railway timetables and still be fun to watch. Back in the seventies we (then) young people would bomb around the UK checking out ley lines and climbing Glastonbury Tor etc, and I am so interested to see a kind of resurgence of interest in the e things. Love your channel, from Switzerlandf.
This isn't the first time this has happend. There have been maps with islands or different coastal boarders than today, for forever. And a majority of the time if the proper research is done, we can see that they did exist or harbor certain unique features. We think the earth changes in long drawn out ways, but earth's history is a violent one with major changes happening overnight. This is why so many cultures have whispers or origins from a people before time. It's just that. Cultures that once existed and had dominance over an area get wiped out and only stories AR past along. Great video, can't wait to get to the bottom of this...
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Randall had said they found ancient "beach" sand, out there at the mid Atlantic ridge area. There was also something about cobbles and boulders at the same place. I guess those shouldn't be there unless you have waves pounding on a beach. As far as the California Island, I can imagine trying to plot the area and being faced with what seemed like a never ending land mass from both the east and the west and fudging the last little bit. Also sailing up the Gulf of California without getting to the end probably helped give the impression of an island, on paper.
So happy to see you getting subs. I always enjoy your content.
I live Wa State above the California wackiness. We have a fault that runs all the way up here. Maybe someday we will all be an island again.
Love her, so down to earth and relatable. Please share more of what your up to now.
Hmm. Maybe that's why there is so much compressed gold everywhere? 🤔 Ancient Civilization maybe? 🤷🏽♂️ Who knows lol
I noticed your numbers blew up right after Randall mentioned your name on Rogan’s podcast! When he said your name in the interview I got so excited for you!! Yay!
It's interesting that California carries Islamic Spain's legacy since Calafia or Califia is probably a version of Calif or Caliph. I like to think that California means, "The land of the female Caliph".
Tartaria/ the russ were islamic as well.so maybe people came through there and settled in california more than we know.theres still one place called fort russ that is acknowledged.but i think there was a larger pre islamic/ turkic presence
@@ericdollarhyde3296 Could be the reason why California is where a lot of the crooked elite mingle
What a good day. I have found. New RUclips channel filled with knowledge and …. The presenter is just an absolute honey !!! Thanks Funny Olde World 😝
You may want to investigate historic earthquakes in the area. That could explain massive land elevation.
Fascinating! Love how you think, your humor and could listen to that accent all day long. :)
Brilliant, per usual Jahanna! Proud new Hunter & native Californian here, Jahanna, Be my YT Valentine ? 😉💕
I have a few theories that weren't mentioned. As a Native Californian that's a bit of a nerd, and starting at the end, I think it's likely that it's a combo of all of them:
1) it's entirely possible a portion of the Mojave and the Central Valley (although not contiguously because they are separated by mountains, and any connection would have to have been in the very very distant past) were covered in pluvial water acting as a kind of extension of the Gulf of California versus the relatively sparse coverage in the map at the end. And the extent of water just outside of the map, particularly lake lahontan and lake Bonneville, were very extensive, which could have convinced anyone on foot from the east that they were encountering an ocean.
3) when sea levels were 365 to 400 ft lower before the big melt, the coast of California was about 35 miles further west. It's possible there was a channel of water between the current mainland and much of that land that no longer exists to the west.
3) finally, even though it hasn't happened since 1861, California experiences torrential atmospheric rivers that fill the Central Valley with water and literally turn it into an inland sea every 100 to 200 years. In fact during 1861-1862, over 43 days, 10-30 ft of water flooded the entire valley for the winter to the point that the capital, Sacramento, had to temporarily be moved to San Francisco. Had that been happening when the original mapmakers arrived, the confusion would be very understandable. And if that had happened during the last glacial and evaporation had been less, it could have persisted for a very long time.
Being a born-and-bred Californian (who ultimately fled to the marginally saner Texas in the early 1990's), it's actually quite plausible that pre-20th century Tulare Lake could be navigable by shallow draft boats entering the lake from the southern end of San Francisco Bay. I hasten to point out that no boat I would even consider taking out on any body of open water (where wind blows up surface turbulence) would be necessary just to keep from going aground on the regular in anything but a particularly wet year (alternatively, a particularly snowy year - the Sierra Nevada range periodically has such heavy snow run-off as to cause serious difficulties for the farmers in the San Juaquin Valley even in consistently "drought stricken" modern California, ie: Tulare Lake as was). In summary, between the Gulf of California and Lake Tulare, it's actually not that implausible explorers thought California was an island. They would have had to do their exploring starting from both ends of course, since the coastal mountains all run together around the modern Greater Los Angeles area, and from there into the Sierra Nevada range, so there couldn't have been a physical connection between the two bodies of water this side of the Mesozoic at the most recent, if then. The salt flats Jimmy mentions below (with a couple of known historical exceptions - what remains of The
Salton Sea being one example; see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salton_Sea) would be from the Mesozoic (or earlier) era as well. Inland of the coastal ranges, southern California is literally covered in dry lake beds, ranging from tens of acres to square miles in area. Great fun for a growing boy in the mid-1960's with a dirt bike and a friend with a pick-up truck and trailer, I can say with authority. I can't recall them being especially salty, but being we were literally miles from anywhere, I tried very hard not to put myself into a position the lake bed could end up inside where my helmet probably should have been had I owned one.
Can a new fan suggest you carry on building up your content reservoir and let Joe Rogan call you when you have enough material of your own to draw upon for at least 2 appearances? Some is very good, and you are all of that, but more is almost always better, don'tcha agree?
Awesome video!
Thanks!
Peace and blessings 🙏
Can it go back to being an island?
like a lepper island of lunatics :)
We'll figure something out.
I live in West Covina California lol I never knew this. This channel is a fountain of knowledge.
I would believe the knowledge of the ancients over today's "experts" any day.
Yup.
Because modern experts still haven't figured out how they built the pyramids lol.. theories packed on theories but no stable fact..
So true! All true ancients knew that the earth is flat! Eric Dubay channel! Do some research. You will be glad you did!
@@resqfreedom9308 Were you dropped on your head as a child?
You don't believe your own eyes? Don't dismiss this without checking. It'll change your life forever.
BTW I love those 2 white dots under your eyes, they're absolutely captivating for some reason, I just can't look away.
Right? She's absolutely stunning and she knows her shit.
Great job Jahannah. If it has any implications to the past it was handed down for many, many generations. Kinda like the egg. Who knows how far back our ancient secrets go.
There’s an excellent geology reference: Assembling California. The Sierra Nevada mountains are the backbone of California. The West Coast was created from sea bed and islands scraped off from the Pacific plate rotating against the edge of the North American plate over millions of years. Alas, being just ocean where San Diego and L.A. exist now, we had no dinosaurs, except in Baja California, which was an island during the Cretaceous. In a few million years Baja California and West Coast California up to San Francisco is expected to move north toward Alaska and we will then, finally, be an island! Love your channel, fascinating explorations!
I was wondering the same thing about the islands in the channel, "do they align with the modern mountains?" Since it's an area of heavy seismic activity, and the native Americans said the waterways extended into the desert, it is nearly impossible to rule out
You are my new favourite RUclipsr.
I love this.
The Salton Sea (salt) was, at several times in history, flooded deep enough to be a channel. It resides at the Southern end of the SanAndras fault. Even today drying up from only 75 years ago when it had lakeside communities. You should visit.
You are so entertaining as you teach. You make it super interesting. Thank you
If you lived on the Baja peninsula back then, you might have actually thought you were on an island honestly. At this time, we didn't know what we know now, so it's possible the people got confused. However, the Chinese map you mentioned raises a whole lot of questions, especially with all of the finds in Antarctica showing that there was a far warmer climate once. That's not really a coincidence, I would say.
I watch Bright Insight all the time yet found your channel completely by accident rather than his recommendation. Loving your videos and your relaxed presentation style, you're rapidly becoming my new favourite channel
The tectonic plates float around the surface and when ice is put on or taken off they can rise and fall rapidly. California sitting along an active fault line would see even more dramatic shifts. Look at the evidence of huge earthquakes in the megalithic structures in Peru. The Younger Dryas period would have had a lot of changes and anyone mapping California back then may have seen changes more extensive than the European Doggerland did. Even the middle ages/dark ages or the mini European ice age in the 1500-ish times.
From Central California. The comments regarding the former Tulare Lake as a viable explanation make the most sense to me.
All of that snow on the the western Sierra Nevada used to just flow downward into the valley...
As an American citizen I can assure you we all hope it floats away now.
Where's the love?
Summer of 68.
probably one of the best things that can happen to the USA would be the reislandification of CA. It is interesting as a topic though with death valley and imperial valley being at or below sea level. Can't wait for the premier!
Give it back to my country of Mexico we will make California great again
🤣😂@@Ace-cf6tf I think Brandon is working on that
Indeed
Randall bought me here via Rogan
I enjoy your style, humour (you are very funny particularly when signing off😂) and energy through your presentations and extremely impressed by your knowledge
I myself am merely a total amateur to this, though have always been interested in such subjects regarding true world and human history and other earthly anomalies since a child ( I'm in my late forties today)
Keep up your tremendous Mahi (work)
It is a delight to have discovered your channel and eagerly await your next presentation
All the best and peace and aroha to you
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If only it would become an island again!
Your blogs videos are top class.
I’m almost positive that this can be easily explained by the Baja Peninsula. Good chance they didn’t go much farther north in the Pacific so they just saw the peninsula and assumed it was an island
my thoughts exactly.
Then what's the point of making a map? I'm sure cartographers knew what peninsulas were
@@frame-perfectadskip9159 they didn’t go far enough north to realize it wasn’t an island ? Idk what was so hard to understand about the original comment. Look at any map pre modern era and there’s a lot of assuming and guessing made
@@Milk382011 guess work doesn't mean survey half of an area and mirror the other half.
@@frame-perfectadskip9159 well they were on ships in rough seas for months at a time and unsure if they were going to fall off the edge of the Earth if they went too far during that century so I doubt they were too concerned with being called out on inaccuracy that no one in their life time would ever discover
I love your videos and your topics. Keep up the great work, Skål
Hmm, very interesting. Makes you wonder a lot of things. Judging by the peaks of those mountains lining up to poke out of the water so to speak, I think it was possible in the distant past that the area was mapped after the great flood perhaps, after the tsunamis had greatly flooded the world, California was briefly an island before the waters receded but the maps were not updated again for some time and remained an island on paper. This is one theory.
Regarding the Bermuda Island now under the sea, that should be a video by itself as I am now wondering if all the lost aircraft and ships in that region are because of an ancient megalithic pyramid down there on that sunken island still generating enough energy to affect our technologies... Hmm... PS - I was drinking Vimto and I hope you recovered ok from your dead foot lol 😁
You do realize the maps she's talking about showing California as an island were created around 500 years ago, not thousands of years ago? So it obviously wouldn't have anything to do with "the flood", even if you believe that biblical nonsense.
We're having a crisis of ignorance and stupidity, and a rejection of science and academia. Since social media came along, it seems a lot of people think everyone's ignorant opinion is just as valid as anyone else's.
@@jamesrobertson9597 The map from 500 years ago was copied from an older map. That older original map is the one I am talking about. I am a Christian and I trust in God and I have an open mind about the past. We are all on our own journey and I wish you the best :)
Randell Carlson, Jimmy Corsetti (Bright Insight), Matthew Sibson (Ancient Architects) and you are my favorite alternate historians. Anyone who says main stream academia has everything wrapped up tight with a neat little bow clearly hasn't done any personal research into our planets history of ancient civilizations. Keep up the excellent work! PS you should check out Ancient Architects video looking into Peru's Sacsayhuaman stones as geopolymer concrete.
Amazing enthusiasm. Love your show. J
Great presentation Johanna 🙏🏼
Hey there, I'm from Vegas and were taught that the valley we live in was previously submerged a few thousand years ago. It was a gigantic river that connected to Lake Lahontan. We're taught this in school and it's why we have heavy amounts of limestone in our rock and soil! We're also taught that the loss of this water source is why the Anasazi civilization disappeared and the Hopi civilization emerge right after! I'm not entirely sure the validity since this was public school but hope this helps!
Nice info hunting and a fun ride. Thanks and subscribed.
I'm obsessed with rewatching the JRE podcasts where Randall and Graham are on and I just recently decided to look you up after Randall made reference to you when talking to Joe. I subscribed so fast. I was 10 mins into watching one of your videos and knew I was going to start binge watching the rest of your collection. A+
Ever since I liked and commented on the Atlantis summary video, I keep seeing more recommendations like this one which I also enjoyed while learning. I might just have to subscribe.
Great story, well told. Jimmys comment is very interesting as well. Keep up the good work, it's a " Funny Olde World"
love your content Jahannah!
My new favorite channel.
I live in Arizona in the area where you overlayed the map with the 4 islands and i can mostly confirm your theory is on point with the mountains and valleys, with the exception of where the grand canyon is located. It would have been impossible for the land to look like it did on the map
Fantastic as always. Really enjoy your videos.
during the last glaciation period there was an enormous mass of ice sitting on top of north america that was several miles thick.
for a reason why the maps reflect california as being an island may very well be because
1) the ice sheet depressed the earths crust.
2) this depression caused a resultant upheaval of the earths crust further out from the ice sheet.
3) this caused the earths crust to subside even further out from the ice sheet , sort of like a wave shape.
the island of california may have been located at the bottom of the wave.
and the wave shape caused flooding around the then island.
hope this helps you to reason this out in your mind.
I really like your videos.