one of my fav tricks is mixing 2 or more lfos, setting the levels differently and passing it though a quantizer. You can get interesting and complex sequences easily this way.
AnxiousCowboy use 2 or more square wave lfos. Mix them together, feed that output into a quantizer , adjust the LFO levels and you get evolving sequences.
I've done that too....I like to stick a vca between them and an attenuverter at the front and/or rear...depending. This replicates a feature in Massive and Serum that I like to use.
Thankyou for these excellent vids. Minibrute 2s is my first synth and I've learnt so much watching your brilliant, well explained and articulate, well presented shows. Great stuff 👍🏻
That was really terrific and really helped me get some kind of grasp of LFOs, especially the laser sounds! lol! This and all your videos are really helpful, educational, and your instruction is very clear. Great that you have a table of contents on the screen. I'm just a home hobbyist who likes synths and recently got a MiniBrute 2S to learn about modular things. It has quite a learning curve! I watch your videos, and parts of your videos repeatedly. Thanks!
This has helped me sooo much more than any other video I have watched. I dont have anything to make sound yet.....still trying to find out what I can afford/get something worth it that will not leave me needing something else to just have fun and see where this hobby takes me.
I found a tip from another guy where he used an S&H LFO to modulate the clock of a synth. Very varied tempos, made rhythms very organic if tuned properly
Hi, happy I found this video when searching for LFO: I need a multi LFO for an upcoming project and in this vid you used a VariFO --> like the look, the features and swapping capacitors.. Just ordered one!! Thanks!!
Super helpful...I'm trying to advance my understanding and implementation of the Octatrack.. Lfo's are to of course are at the heart of All Tweaking and Mangling of any sampler. This really helps!!! I'm now understanding why one can move to a modular system, amazing stuff.
@@loopop hahaha i swore id go to superbooth this year but instead spent my vacation on a farm driving driving tractors, helping sheep give birth and shooting a shotgun. Quite the opposite of modulation. Will definitely go next year. Or go to Knobcon in Chicago even. Namm also but its bit too far for me!
Wow. I’m here because I own a Korg Kronos 2 and am trying to learn more about how to build programs. I have never used an analog synth, this was amazing to watch. Ten minutes and thirty two seconds went by way too quickly 😊
Still love these videos! Going back to this, two things worth noting on the Minibrute 2/2S - 1) You can actually drive the sequencer clock from an internal or external square/pulse LFO (internal ones need to be switched to free-running), and you can do some interesting time stuff with that. Try running the sequencer at audio rates and fake a wavetable! 2) The "Metalizer" that's normally on VCO1's triangle out is also a wavefolder, so you can do the interesting folded-wave LFO stuff onboard.
i've never owned a synthesizer but have been a software musician for a good few years. i've always been intimidated by learning synthesis and have always stuck to presets, but lately i've been thinking about getting my first hardware synth and am learning it in prep for that. i'm considering the microbrute as a potential first hard-synth
Thank you for posting this. I was wondering can you can post you synchronizing the minibrute to other synths like the moog grandmother? I want to run my moog dfam, mother 32, grandmother and the minibrute all at one if that’s possible 😬😊. Thank you again for posting this.
Great video! Wondering if you had any idea how to recreate the pulsating feel of the synth base on Kelly Clarkson's song "stronger"? Would be pretty cool to try to keep time with that feeling of a pulling back pulse to 16th notes on a bass guitar. Thanks!
Great Video! I love the Arturia Minibrute 2S, can you please give us a video detailing the sequencer, in particular the possible ways in can interact or trigger/gate other eurorack modules.
Hello, dear loopop! Thank you for your video! Tell me please, is it possible to add the function that will allow to turn all the step encoders at the same time (simultaneously) vs to turn each step-encoder step by step? I mean to turn the velocity for example for all the steps in one moment, because it is not so friendly to turn each one separately.
Very well explained vdo, thanks. I use a Korg Kronos, and found if you use the EG (envelope generator) with a slow attack, then slow decay it makes the LFO speed up then slow down (or reverse if inverted). Could you please comment on that, ways to automate the speed of the LFO, thanks again :)
Peter Stanton thanks for your comments - absolutely that’s a great way to control an LFO - not sure what else to comment on you figured it out quite nicely ;)
I don't think the name oscillator implies that it has to produce sound by itself, just that it oscillates. And more often than not lfo's are used at a lower frequency than audible oscillators, in this video too. And especially in the modular world, almost everything can be used to do other things than the name alone implies. Otherwise, very interesting video!
well...s&h can be non random at all, it depends on what's your input and what you trigger it with. For example input 1hz sine, and trigger it with, lets say 5hz square, and you will get a looped s&h output that's not random at all.
As promised a video on LFOs... I missed your oscilloscope in this case, but I'll watch again as there are a lot of examples with pretty subtle sound differences and you cover many concepts. Just to make sure I'm clear on the elementary knob-turning part: when you modulate the filter, both the LFO and the filter envelope are essentially cutoff frequency knob turners, and the difference is that the LFO has a limited choice of shapes and continuously variable speed with the speed knob (whether or not synced to the arpeggiator), and that the envelope only has two speed ranges (fast and slow on my old Minibrute) and as many shapes as I can come up with using the ADSR sliders. I can then imagine manually turning the cutoff knob in a way that would replicate how the envelope is set, but my fingers could never be that fast or precise (same applies to LFO). And the envelope's motion takes place over either one of the set ranges of cycling times of the slow/fast mode on my minibrute. Check? Admittedly I have a hard time using these controls, especially the filter envelope. I'm definitely still confused about the filter envelope *amount* control for instance. A definite second-time watcher for me will also have to be your Digitone review, which explains FM synthesis, briefly mentioned here in the context of vibrato. I will need that when I finally look at the patch editor for my Circuit. Anyway, many thanks for this new video.
TROGULAR 10,000 yes check - and thanks for the kind words - actually I am working on another synth review now and will definitely include and oscilloscope on that one ;) I will also spend more time on envelopes as well. Hopefully later this week
I don't understand why you think oscillator equates (or should equate) to "Makes sound". LFO is the PERFECT name for what it is/does and describes it perfectly. os·cil·late To move back and forth at a regular speed
Really? Your intelligent assessment of my video is that I don't know that an LFO oscillates? Modulating something is fundamentally different from generating audio and giving the two the same name is confusing to beginners, even though they do the same thing
hey i wanted to say thanks for the mazing video, very inspiring. Unfortunately i dont speak english fluently and there is some tehnicals words that prevent me to fully understand what you are doing at the end (with the LFO arpegiator and LFO shapes). Do you (or someone) got some intersting text ressources that explain those sort of process? thanks!
@@loopop oh ok thanks, i will definitively check that out! do you think it will accessible enough for someone who only know only the very basics of synthesis like me?
Matth Sanju I think it will be ok but nothing would make me happier than you telling me which parts aren’t written in simple English - happy to try and improve ...
If it's your first synth the one with the keyboard might be nice to stick to. The patch bay is the most obvious improvement but both versions are also a great improvement on the old Minibrute in terms of arpeggiator modes and the sequencer, and the way to access them. I'll eventually buy the 2S because i'm interested in sequencing and arpeggiating both leads and bass lines, and interested in seeing how far I can go doing so with the just the pads, and if that might help me write more focused and minimalist bass and lead lines. I figure I can connect my keystep if necessary but like the idea of mastering the 2S with just the pads, having all the controls i need on the one instrument. EDIT: definitely watch the Loopop comparison and individual reviews of the two instruments
- Mixing square wave LFOs can yield nice patterns in a scale without needing a quantizer. - PWM a bunch of square oscillators with separate triangle LFOs gives nice string sounds. Toss result into delay for extra effect.
Hello from the future! Is it possible to do, what you describe in Ableton? I just don't understand said 'mixing of square wave LFO' -> scale device' is the strictly modular stuff?
@@thomassynths Wow, thank you for taking the time :) I think it is 'the summed LFO's' part, that I have trouble understanding - when Square wave LFO1 is modulating Square wave LFO2, does this mean they are mixed together/summed?
@@MV-es3sk Oh, ok. So The LFOs are not modulating each other. Instead you mix all the LFOs into a summing mixer. Then you take the output of the mixer and feed it into the pitch input of the oscillator you want to hear.
at 4 mins when you were talking about "audio rate" I was hoping you would have used them as vcos at one point! especially 4 of them, mixed and tuned together, at very high frequency,... they would have made some great layers of sounds. I usually use the" SE STE16" 2 digital lfos for this purpose, it makes fantastic sounds.
Francesco Provenzano I agree that in a pinch lfos can be used to produce sounds - these particular ones don’t receive volt per octave so they’re less useful for tunes
I know! And I see also the last 2 lfos of the module go less higher in frequency. The ste16 have frequency mod but unfortunately no 1v/o otherwise it would have been a great digital vco module... still, I make one tone, drone/pad stile, keeping the same note all the time, to be eventually tuned with another vco playing a sequence, eventually all in the same mixer, filter, vca for a paraphonic feeling.. I use lfos as audio sources a lot, that's why I was hoping :) btw after this video I'm gonna start to use the lfo arpeggiator!
Square LFO on PITCH = 8bits arppegio / S&H LFO on Filter cutoff, plus enough of resonnance = mad scientist ; Delayed slow LFO's = make an evolving pad;
@@tomjepson2295 you're welcome ! I also like to push the rate at max, and the intensity as well, that way I can dissimulate my melody under a twisted soundesign, then I can bring my melody by gently turning the intensity to zero
hey thanks for getting back to me. been considering ditching my Pitts rack. its too big. scaling down. want to keep a couple modules. have two MOOG 104hp. probably keep one. but would like to keep the ES-8 and stick it in one of the MOOGs. was thinking of sticking little module protection washers under the module to raise it or clipping the inside of the case. theres just on little bar in the back thats keeps it from sitting in nice. hey thanks again for getting back to me. good vid.
@@loopop I was really wondering how far you can push the mod matrix design and how much sequencing you can do with the step sequence LFO. But thanks for the reply. Cheers!
Robert Syrett I didn’t mean to be dismissive by the way, obviously there are things that are unique to hydra - I tried to explore those in the main video but will revisit if I feel like I discover something new...
Depth is true should be the first parameter that controls the LFO but in so many cases there is no Depth control on surfaces synth. I don't understand why in certain synths is possible to have it in the LFO section and in other synths just not. Yes most of times LFOs depth can be found spread around per sections. lfos depth in oscillators , in the filter and amp envelopes but still, not all synths adopt Depth . I see either the Arturia minibrute 2
I disagree with your ideas about the term "low frequency oscillator". low: yes, lfos can oscillate at audio frequencies, but that is not what they are generally made for. oscillator: it oscillates. no-one said anything about sound, it outputs exactly the same signal a vco would, just slower. other than that, nice video.
I was thinking the same thing - it oscillates; that's what it does. My background is in electronics engineering though, so I may be a stickler about terms in the audio world. Beyond that though, this was one of the best overviews I've seen in this amazing, powerful & inspiring world of [electronic] audio. Thanks for posting!
Your "an LFO isn't an oscillator" nonsense at the beginning is unnecessary. An oscillator is a circuit that produces a periodic signal. Whether you turn that signal into sound or you use it to modulate a sound is irrelevant. Don't attempt to redefine terms you're not educated on.
You put in quotes something I didn’t say, and then use that as a reason to comment that I am misinformed. Further, had you watched the video you’d have clearly seen I know what an lfo is. Anyway, I’m responding in because I honestly I feel sorry for you if that happens a lot - like you gave me a nice tip for life please try and listen to mine: listen carefully to what people say because if you jump to conclusions and say negative things about something you misheard, ultimately it reflects poorly on you and will cause unnecessarily bad feelings towards you. I hope this helps.
You are the Bob Ross of electronic music theory. Watching your videos is medative as well as informative.
Yes - an actual tutorial that can heard and understood. Other YT presenters would do well to study the style of this vid! Great job - very helpful.
one of my fav tricks is mixing 2 or more lfos, setting the levels differently and passing it though a quantizer. You can get interesting and complex sequences easily this way.
what do you mean? do you mult the LFOs into a single quantizer?
AnxiousCowboy use 2 or more square wave lfos. Mix them together, feed that output into a quantizer , adjust the LFO levels and you get evolving sequences.
I just did a ‘Dude, yes!’ At this thought. Very cool indeed.
I've done that too....I like to stick a vca between them and an attenuverter at the front and/or rear...depending.
This replicates a feature in Massive and Serum that I like to use.
@@linzenmeyer
a module like ANA does a lot for a setup like this too.
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Quantizing the signal to produce scales is an incredibly useful technique for music. This is the first time I'd heard of it.
I love the concept of using LFOs for FM synthesis !
Great video, I filled in some blanks in my head as far as patching goes. Thanks for the explanation.
Thankyou for these excellent vids. Minibrute 2s is my first synth and I've learnt so much watching your brilliant, well explained and articulate, well presented shows. Great stuff 👍🏻
Nice as always. Me brings popcorn, sits back, relax, and play the video. ^^
love! by far the best tutorial.
This is awesome. I looooove hearing tips on general synthesis. So appliable. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks - there are more on the channel and more to come every now and then...
Great. Definetely subbing.
1 minute in and you’re already helping my novice self play better on his mini brute 2s. Thanks!
Lovely tutorial!
Great video! Keep up the good work!
Very helpful tutorial, Thanks
Such a good video again, very professional!
yessss loopop! i was looking for some modulation tips and just clicked on a video and now its Loopop!! so i know its quality! fucking love this dude
Love your channel. Thank you🧡🦑
This is one of your best videos. I can't believe I haven't seen it before. Definitely do more of this. Maybe part 2? Great work!
Thanks so much - yes there are plenty of other LFO tips scattered in my other videos and (shameless plug) all in one place in my book...
brilliant!! Thanks ! This is so creative !
Great great video. Thank you sooo much!!!!
That was really terrific and really helped me get some kind of grasp of LFOs, especially the laser sounds! lol! This and all your videos are really helpful, educational, and your instruction is very clear. Great that you have a table of contents on the screen. I'm just a home hobbyist who likes synths and recently got a MiniBrute 2S to learn about modular things. It has quite a learning curve! I watch your videos, and parts of your videos repeatedly. Thanks!
Great video!
I’ve been enjoying using an LFO as a clock source for an arpeggiator.
I'm new to synth gear and music production and i love your channel!
This is great, thanks!
Lovely tutorial, very beginner friendly and inspirational!
Great video: I really like the basic pulse you chose as a demo, which kept interest without causing burnout.
David Bagshaw thanks ;)
This has helped me sooo much more than any other video I have watched. I dont have anything to make sound yet.....still trying to find out what I can afford/get something worth it that will not leave me needing something else to just have fun and see where this hobby takes me.
I bought 2 Doepfer wasps filters in substitution for a dual filter. Now I need an attenuator and split out cable to modulate them simultanously.
I found a tip from another guy where he used an S&H LFO to modulate the clock of a synth. Very varied tempos, made rhythms very organic if tuned properly
Hi, happy I found this video when searching for LFO: I need a multi LFO for an upcoming project and in this vid you used a VariFO --> like the look, the features and swapping capacitors.. Just ordered one!! Thanks!!
Super helpful...I'm trying to advance my understanding and implementation of the Octatrack..
Lfo's are to of course are at the heart of All Tweaking and Mangling of any sampler. This really helps!!!
I'm now understanding why one can move to a modular system, amazing stuff.
I'm learning
Thank you so much
This is such a useful video. I love buying and using new synths, but I'll admit that the lfo largely mystifies me.
Thanks for this video, Loopop.
really good!
Great!!
Greetings from Cabo Verde Islands.
Cheers
Fabulous!
thank you!
Cheers Loopy 🍻 finally weekend! Time for modular jams❤❤
Enjoy the bleeps but don’t overdo the bloops!
@@loopop hahaha i swore id go to superbooth this year but instead spent my vacation on a farm driving driving tractors, helping sheep give birth and shooting a shotgun. Quite the opposite of modulation. Will definitely go next year. Or go to Knobcon in Chicago even. Namm also but its bit too far for me!
thx!very helpful
Thanks... for all!
excellent
Wow. I’m here because I own a Korg Kronos 2 and am trying to learn more about how to build programs. I have never used an analog synth, this was amazing to watch. Ten minutes and thirty two seconds went by way too quickly 😊
Video! Nice one.
Still love these videos! Going back to this, two things worth noting on the Minibrute 2/2S -
1) You can actually drive the sequencer clock from an internal or external square/pulse LFO (internal ones need to be switched to free-running), and you can do some interesting time stuff with that. Try running the sequencer at audio rates and fake a wavetable!
2) The "Metalizer" that's normally on VCO1's triangle out is also a wavefolder, so you can do the interesting folded-wave LFO stuff onboard.
Very cool! I wish I could find a video that shows how to connect the Moog Etherwave Plus theremin to a MiniBrute 2S. Thank you.
came here for the knowledge , then i got interested at the music itself and the knowledge , god damn
you can also run an LFO into a VCA and use another LFO to open and close the VCA to create a more complicated LFO
i've never owned a synthesizer but have been a software musician for a good few years. i've always been intimidated by learning synthesis and have always stuck to presets, but lately i've been thinking about getting my first hardware synth and am learning it in prep for that. i'm considering the microbrute as a potential first hard-synth
I know this is old but Vital vst (digital synth) is free and fantastic, try it
I wish someday we'll get a video like this for Hydrasynth. Its mod matrix makes it close to a modular approach synth.
Thank you for posting this. I was wondering can you can post you synchronizing the minibrute to other synths like the moog grandmother? I want to run my moog dfam, mother 32, grandmother and the minibrute all at one if that’s possible 😬😊. Thank you again for posting this.
Great video! Wondering if you had any idea how to recreate the pulsating feel of the synth base on Kelly Clarkson's song "stronger"? Would be pretty cool to try to keep time with that feeling of a pulling back pulse to 16th notes on a bass guitar. Thanks!
Great Video! I love the Arturia Minibrute 2S, can you please give us a video detailing the sequencer, in particular the possible ways in can interact or trigger/gate other eurorack modules.
Daniel Ortiz thanks! Did you see my 2S review, especially toward the end? I am planning to dig further in next month, but there’s a lot there already
"You can never have enough cow bell" LOL!!!
You should make that t-shirt.
Cheers, I was trying to work out how certain artists such as Desert Dwellers appear to yoyo bass about
I like the bit when he turns the LFO into a UFO. :P
Sold a VCA and a filter and the buyers were surprisingly old :D
Can you add LFOs like you were doing using FM synthesis? I have a Reface DX
Anyway how we name things...its a cool vid! thks !
Mini promo for how awesome the Minibrutes are!
Hello, dear loopop! Thank you for your video! Tell me please, is it possible to add the function that will allow to turn all the step encoders at the same time (simultaneously) vs to turn each step-encoder step by step? I mean to turn the velocity for example for all the steps in one moment, because it is not so friendly to turn each one separately.
Thanks! Not that I recall
Most knowledgeable synth guy on RUclips. I love these vids. Wavefolding lfos, never crossed my mind. Must try
When does the trigger output on the Vari-F.O trigger? Is it just when the LFO hits it peak?
Yes, basically the trigger out is duplicate of the square out
Very well explained vdo, thanks. I use a Korg Kronos, and found if you use the EG (envelope generator) with a slow attack, then slow decay it makes the LFO speed up then slow down (or reverse if inverted). Could you please comment on that, ways to automate the speed of the LFO, thanks again :)
Peter Stanton thanks for your comments - absolutely that’s a great way to control an LFO - not sure what else to comment on you figured it out quite nicely ;)
Still Looppop
Cant find split out cables on Thomann which I usually buy from.
I don't think the name oscillator implies that it has to produce sound by itself, just that it oscillates. And more often than not lfo's are used at a lower frequency than audible oscillators, in this video too. And especially in the modular world, almost everything can be used to do other things than the name alone implies. Otherwise, very interesting video!
ejmikk I agree it’s just my little rant on naming conventions - wait til I make one about sample and hold - what a confusing name for random
well...s&h can be non random at all, it depends on what's your input and what you trigger it with. For example input 1hz sine, and trigger it with, lets say 5hz square, and you will get a looped s&h output that's not random at all.
Linas Mak true, while it can be that it’s never used for anything other than random in any stand-alone synth I’ve seen
ejmikk maybe a better name would be “AKT”, Automatic Knob Turner
Dr LoHertz knobo roboto!
As promised a video on LFOs... I missed your oscilloscope in this case, but I'll watch again as there are a lot of examples with pretty subtle sound differences and you cover many concepts. Just to make sure I'm clear on the elementary knob-turning part: when you modulate the filter, both the LFO and the filter envelope are essentially cutoff frequency knob turners, and the difference is that the LFO has a limited choice of shapes and continuously variable speed with the speed knob (whether or not synced to the arpeggiator), and that the envelope only has two speed ranges (fast and slow on my old Minibrute) and as many shapes as I can come up with using the ADSR sliders. I can then imagine manually turning the cutoff knob in a way that would replicate how the envelope is set, but my fingers could never be that fast or precise (same applies to LFO). And the envelope's motion takes place over either one of the set ranges of cycling times of the slow/fast mode on my minibrute. Check? Admittedly I have a hard time using these controls, especially the filter envelope. I'm definitely still confused about the filter envelope *amount* control for instance. A definite second-time watcher for me will also have to be your Digitone review, which explains FM synthesis, briefly mentioned here in the context of vibrato. I will need that when I finally look at the patch editor for my Circuit. Anyway, many thanks for this new video.
TROGULAR 10,000 yes check - and thanks for the kind words - actually I am working on another synth review now and will definitely include and oscilloscope on that one ;) I will also spend more time on envelopes as well. Hopefully later this week
I don't understand why you think oscillator equates (or should equate) to "Makes sound". LFO is the PERFECT name for what it is/does and describes it perfectly.
os·cil·late
To move back and forth at a regular speed
Really? Your intelligent assessment of my video is that I don't know that an LFO oscillates? Modulating something is fundamentally different from generating audio and giving the two the same name is confusing to beginners, even though they do the same thing
hey i wanted to say thanks for the mazing video, very inspiring. Unfortunately i dont speak english fluently and there is some tehnicals words that prevent me to fully understand what you are doing at the end (with the LFO arpegiator and LFO shapes). Do you (or someone) got some intersting text ressources that explain those sort of process? thanks!
Thanks! I have a book which covers this topics on my Patreon - it does have a cost, but hopefully not too much
@@loopop oh ok thanks, i will definitively check that out! do you think it will accessible enough for someone who only know only the very basics of synthesis like me?
Matth Sanju I think it will be ok but nothing would make me happier than you telling me which parts aren’t written in simple English - happy to try and improve ...
@@loopop no problem! i will give some feedback once i have sub to the patron.
Which eurorack case is this?
How do you like the minibrute 2s so far? I got the one with keyboard
Amæthron I made quite a few videos about it - did you check the channel? It’s an amazingly powerful and flexible synth
i would rather go for the S version
If it's your first synth the one with the keyboard might be nice to stick to. The patch bay is the most obvious improvement but both versions are also a great improvement on the old Minibrute in terms of arpeggiator modes and the sequencer, and the way to access them. I'll eventually buy the 2S because i'm interested in sequencing and arpeggiating both leads and bass lines, and interested in seeing how far I can go doing so with the just the pads, and if that might help me write more focused and minimalist bass and lead lines. I figure I can connect my keystep if necessary but like the idea of mastering the 2S with just the pads, having all the controls i need on the one instrument. EDIT: definitely watch the Loopop comparison and individual reviews of the two instruments
beautiful reverb. what module?
Hey - this video was made a while ago but probably Valhalla shimmer
Make lessons of modular for beginners? You are great 👍
Thanks! No private lessons, but my book on Patreon have a ton of modular info
- Mixing square wave LFOs can yield nice patterns in a scale without needing a quantizer.
- PWM a bunch of square oscillators with separate triangle LFOs gives nice string sounds. Toss result into delay for extra effect.
Hello from the future! Is it possible to do, what you describe in Ableton? I just don't understand said 'mixing of square wave LFO' -> scale device' is the strictly modular stuff?
@@MV-es3sk as long as you can map the amplitude of the summed lfos to pitch in some controlled fashion, you're good
@@thomassynths Wow, thank you for taking the time :)
I think it is 'the summed LFO's' part, that I have trouble understanding - when Square wave LFO1 is modulating Square wave LFO2, does this mean they are mixed together/summed?
@@MV-es3sk Oh, ok. So The LFOs are not modulating each other. Instead you mix all the LFOs into a summing mixer. Then you take the output of the mixer and feed it into the pitch input of the oscillator you want to hear.
@@thomassynths Ah, that makes sense! Thank you! :)
at 4 mins when you were talking about "audio rate" I was hoping you would have used them as vcos at one point! especially 4 of them, mixed and tuned together, at very high frequency,... they would have made some great layers of sounds. I usually use the" SE STE16" 2 digital lfos for this purpose, it makes fantastic sounds.
Francesco Provenzano I agree that in a pinch lfos can be used to produce sounds - these particular ones don’t receive volt per octave so they’re less useful for tunes
I know! And I see also the last 2 lfos of the module go less higher in frequency. The ste16 have frequency mod but unfortunately no 1v/o otherwise it would have been a great digital vco module... still, I make one tone, drone/pad stile, keeping the same note all the time, to be eventually tuned with another vco playing a sequence, eventually all in the same mixer, filter, vca for a paraphonic feeling.. I use lfos as audio sources a lot, that's why I was hoping :) btw after this video I'm gonna start to use the lfo arpeggiator!
Francesco Provenzano actually you can change the capacitors to different ranges, have all the same, etc. cool with the arpeggiator ;)
Square LFO on PITCH = 8bits arppegio / S&H LFO on Filter cutoff, plus enough of resonnance = mad scientist ; Delayed slow LFO's = make an evolving pad;
Great tip! Thanks.
@@tomjepson2295 you're welcome ! I also like to push the rate at max, and the intensity as well, that way I can dissimulate my melody under a twisted soundesign, then I can bring my melody by gently turning the intensity to zero
When will you be starting your Tech from the Past series? I vote for the Stylophone to be first up.
I got too much tech from the present to deal with first, but noted!
loopop fair enough. *goes off to look for 'how to MIDI a Stylophone' tutorials*
How did you get the es-8 into the moog case. Its too deep. You mod the case?
You’re right it’s a bit too big - I just don’t tighten the screws and you can see it’s about 1mm higher
hey thanks for getting back to me. been considering ditching my Pitts rack. its too big. scaling down. want to keep a couple modules. have two MOOG 104hp. probably keep one. but would like to keep the ES-8 and stick it in one of the MOOGs. was thinking of sticking little module protection washers under the module to raise it or clipping the inside of the case. theres just on little bar in the back thats keeps it from sitting in nice.
hey thanks again for getting back to me.
good vid.
Is this Quantizer digitally based?
Yes
ìnteresting
When that synth at 8:30 sounds...
Can we get a "10 creative ways to use the LFOs on the Hydrasynth?"
It's the same ;)
@@loopop I was really wondering how far you can push the mod matrix design and how much sequencing you can do with the step sequence LFO. But thanks for the reply. Cheers!
Robert Syrett I didn’t mean to be dismissive by the way, obviously there are things that are unique to hydra - I tried to explore those in the main video but will revisit if I feel like I discover something new...
@@loopop Sounds good to me :)
Is the Vari-F.O module from Arturia???
Deejay Roman no, it’s from a new modular company called VoicAs - check out voicas.audio
haha. The sign in the middle looks almost like the A of Arturia ;-)
Depth is true should be the first parameter that controls the LFO but in so many cases there is no Depth control on surfaces synth. I don't understand why in certain synths is possible to have it in the LFO section and in other synths just not. Yes most of times LFOs depth can be found spread around per sections. lfos depth in oscillators , in the filter and amp envelopes but still, not all synths adopt Depth . I see either the Arturia minibrute 2
fabyo ouda VCAs can be used as depth controls.
VCAs as depth control of LFOs? You mean from the Amp Envelopes? ... for which synth ? every synth ? .. in how/which way ?
fabyo ouda LFO out, into input of VCA, output of VCA into filter cutoff or pitch. The vca now controls the depth of the LFO.
You need outputs and inputs to be available on each part but pretty much any synth with VCAs that are patchable should be able to do this.
Well .. gonna see in the matrix modulation of my synth .. HAve not a semi modular. Cheers.
kind of you know how likely it is;-)
Instead call it: Control Voltage Loop Generator - CVLG
I disagree with your ideas about the term "low frequency oscillator". low: yes, lfos can oscillate at audio frequencies, but that is not what they are generally made for. oscillator: it oscillates. no-one said anything about sound, it outputs exactly the same signal a vco would, just slower. other than that, nice video.
I was thinking the same thing - it oscillates; that's what it does. My background is in electronics engineering though, so I may be a stickler about terms in the audio world. Beyond that though, this was one of the best overviews I've seen in this amazing, powerful & inspiring world of [electronic] audio. Thanks for posting!
Just because you don't like the name doesn't mean it's technically incorrect
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Oh,its wrong video.
then the labeling on your synth is wrong.
ehhh.. why not call it an oscillator? where in the world does it say that its an oscillator only if it makes sound?.. look up the definition please.
I agree. The idea is to find a term that properly represents what its function is rather than what it does technically
"I don't like that name for two reasons..."
lol, you hipster
The title says creative ...
Trio Red the comment section eagerly awaits your creative LFO ideas!
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Your "an LFO isn't an oscillator" nonsense at the beginning is unnecessary. An oscillator is a circuit that produces a periodic signal. Whether you turn that signal into sound or you use it to modulate a sound is irrelevant. Don't attempt to redefine terms you're not educated on.
You put in quotes something I didn’t say, and then use that as a reason to comment that I am misinformed. Further, had you watched the video you’d have clearly seen I know what an lfo is. Anyway, I’m responding in because I honestly I feel sorry for you if that happens a lot - like you gave me a nice tip for life please try and listen to mine: listen carefully to what people say because if you jump to conclusions and say negative things about something you misheard, ultimately it reflects poorly on you and will cause unnecessarily bad feelings towards you. I hope this helps.
Where the book, please?
Thanks for your interest - see link at the top of the description