when goku loses super saiyan god his body has tasted the power of divine energy so the strength stays with him. it is a little confusing but thats what happens and so sense he knows how to use the divine energy like a base form he can use super saiyan with it
The power scaling for the new forms is really unclear, they are stronger than super saiyan, but why? super saiyan 1, 2 and 3 being stronger than eachother made sense but god ki is stronger than all of that somehow
@@Big_Dawg_Dojosuper saiyan as a form wasn’t stronger than SSG, what happened was remnants of the power of SSG were still left in Goku’s body so he could still tap into just enough of that strength for one final attack
@@Echo-nn8dt Aye, but its explictly stated thats he made the ssj god forms power his own and when he goes ssj he doesnt feel a change. By ROF ssj goku is stronger than ssj god goku for some dumb reason. And even if hes not, the fact I can make that argument and it has some legs to stand on shows the poor writing of super
What do you think about "goku absorbing god in his base". . . I find it ridiculous but every english youtuber always uses it and it pisses me off. Spanish community is a lot more grounded in this.
I think its dumb. But it is in the show. Gokus base did get WAY stronger, so I divide whatever the ssj god multipler is by 50, and have that as the new base. Because Goku is as strong as ssj god in ss form and doesnt notice the difference, so it makes sense. But the notion is dumb. I like the idea of them having two different bases, two different pools of ki, and when they use their god ki and go super saiyan, they become blue, but dbs is badly written and thats headcannon, check out my other vids on dbz stuff if youve been liking the vids so far 👍
True but lets be real, super saiyan god narritively was supposed to be a completely new level of power. Yet random bozos can match it easy. It doesn't feel right.
Sadly I didnt! The (a+b)×100 is commonly used and I happen to agree wirh that number. But he must be hella strong in base in the anime the way he was handling buuhan, and and this number must be at least more than vegeta and goku at max. Vados in Super says that potara isnt just the sum of their power, but its multiplied dozens of times over. Dozens of times over i take to be at most 12x12, which is 144. So 100 seems fair.
@@Big_Dawg_Dojo Yeah, I agree with you and your explanation. When it came to power scaling in DB I knew all the multipliers besides SSG, so thanks for the video!
The biggest reason why all this power scaling falls apart in super is because if the multipliers are as large as stated between the different forms how in the world are people like goku and vegeta able to engage people in their base forms or super siayan forms that are stronger than the blue forms and not get instantly wiped out. With how large the multipliers are if they are fighting with their opponent in base and not getting instantly one shot then upon transforming they should be completely eclipsing their enemies with little to no difficulty. In order to make sense of it you just have to assume their opponent is holding back dramatically even when their very life is on the line ir they juts grow in strength that rapidly able to get billions of times stronger in a single battle.
All of this is pointless. Power levels are bullshit. It's just a headache, and unfortunately the fans get more headache from it than Akira Toriyama (who doesn't give a shit).
Fusion base = ( fusee 1 & 2 ) strongest stable form In that case both goku & vegeta ssj2 form. Cause ssj3 was not stable at that time! You guys need to remember that vegito goes ssj1 instantly after fusion in the manga! Not like the anime where he fights buu in his base!
Yeah everything that happened in the Goku black arc is everything wrong with super... I think Trunks calling for help (Within itself) isn't the worst thing in the world, it's just how trunks went about it... WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR BOY IN Z???💀💀💀💀
Base x base? If we say Goku had a power level of 1 billion in base, and then he fused with vegeta how had the same power level, thats puts base Vegito at a power level of 1e18, thats crazy my guy. In super potara is stated to be the aditions of fighters multiplied dozens of times over
@@Big_Dawg_Dojonah, I have seen (max + max)*random multiplier (may be x2, x10 or similar) work consistently good everytime a fusion shows up. Against super boo, zamasu, broly... I would say thats the way to go, narratively it works aswell because they always like to show fusions as the ultimate triumph card and are always a more powerful option than goku and vegeta efforts alone.
when goku loses super saiyan god his body has tasted the power of divine energy so the strength stays with him. it is a little confusing but thats what happens and so sense he knows how to use the divine energy like a base form he can use super saiyan with it
all i heard in this vid was fax
The power scaling for the new forms is really unclear, they are stronger than super saiyan, but why?
super saiyan 1, 2 and 3 being stronger than eachother made sense but god ki is stronger than all of that somehow
I was fine with that then they made super saiyan stronger than god form, then you can go god god form like wtf
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@@Big_Dawg_Dojothe power became his own
@@Big_Dawg_Dojosuper saiyan as a form wasn’t stronger than SSG, what happened was remnants of the power of SSG were still left in Goku’s body so he could still tap into just enough of that strength for one final attack
@@Echo-nn8dt Aye, but its explictly stated thats he made the ssj god forms power his own and when he goes ssj he doesnt feel a change. By ROF ssj goku is stronger than ssj god goku for some dumb reason.
And even if hes not, the fact I can make that argument and it has some legs to stand on shows the poor writing of super
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Gohan trained for a year after the Ressurection of Frieza and before T.o.P
What do you think about "goku absorbing god in his base". . . I find it ridiculous but every english youtuber always uses it and it pisses me off. Spanish community is a lot more grounded in this.
I think its dumb. But it is in the show.
Gokus base did get WAY stronger, so I divide whatever the ssj god multipler is by 50, and have that as the new base. Because Goku is as strong as ssj god in ss form and doesnt notice the difference, so it makes sense.
But the notion is dumb. I like the idea of them having two different bases, two different pools of ki, and when they use their god ki and go super saiyan, they become blue, but dbs is badly written and thats headcannon, check out my other vids on dbz stuff if youve been liking the vids so far 👍
Super saiyan God is basically god ki
Goku can feel god ki in his base form but the power of God ki he uses only using ssg
Don't need to think here
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Of course this is based off a guess so we cant be so certain
True but lets be real, super saiyan god narritively was supposed to be a completely new level of power. Yet random bozos can match it easy. It doesn't feel right.
Great Video! I have a question. How did you calculate how much is Vegetto’s rival multiplier and the potara multiplier?
Sadly I didnt! The (a+b)×100 is commonly used and I happen to agree wirh that number.
But he must be hella strong in base in the anime the way he was handling buuhan, and and this number must be at least more than vegeta and goku at max.
Vados in Super says that potara isnt just the sum of their power, but its multiplied dozens of times over. Dozens of times over i take to be at most 12x12, which is 144. So 100 seems fair.
@@Big_Dawg_Dojo Yeah, I agree with you and your explanation. When it came to power scaling in DB I knew all the multipliers besides SSG, so thanks for the video!
@@brunosanz7477 No problem, I scaled the Broly movie using the logic in this video if you wanna check that out :)
The biggest reason why all this power scaling falls apart in super is because if the multipliers are as large as stated between the different forms how in the world are people like goku and vegeta able to engage people in their base forms or super siayan forms that are stronger than the blue forms and not get instantly wiped out.
With how large the multipliers are if they are fighting with their opponent in base and not getting instantly one shot then upon transforming they should be completely eclipsing their enemies with little to no difficulty.
In order to make sense of it you just have to assume their opponent is holding back dramatically even when their very life is on the line ir they juts grow in strength that rapidly able to get billions of times stronger in a single battle.
My thoughts exactly.
the biggest reason is that Toryama can't write
All of this is pointless. Power levels are bullshit. It's just a headache, and unfortunately the fans get more headache from it than Akira Toriyama (who doesn't give a shit).
Good to know!
I love vegeta heyyyy
Super Saiyan God being above a vegito ssj3 means the multiplier is like in the millions
You made a mistake it’s not A + B x 100 it’s A + B x 10
Fusion base = ( fusee 1 & 2 ) strongest stable form
In that case both goku & vegeta ssj2 form. Cause ssj3 was not stable at that time!
You guys need to remember that vegito goes ssj1 instantly after fusion in the manga! Not like the anime where he fights buu in his base!
Would someone explain to me why BD reposts his videos all the time?
Cause im stupid and i delete a bunch but we grinding again now, new vid real soon.
Why does this video look like school presentation
It’s animation isn’t the same anymore
Yeah everything that happened in the Goku black arc is everything wrong with super...
I think Trunks calling for help (Within itself) isn't the worst thing in the world, it's just how trunks went about it... WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR BOY IN Z???💀💀💀💀
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Fusion is base x base not max + max.
Base x base? If we say Goku had a power level of 1 billion in base, and then he fused with vegeta how had the same power level, thats puts base Vegito at a power level of 1e18, thats crazy my guy.
In super potara is stated to be the aditions of fighters multiplied dozens of times over
@@Big_Dawg_DojoI think he meant base + base
@@voqmas3284 base + base would be too weak though. The fusion multiplier is highly debatable tbh
@@Big_Dawg_Dojonah, I have seen (max + max)*random multiplier (may be x2, x10 or similar) work consistently good everytime a fusion shows up. Against super boo, zamasu, broly... I would say thats the way to go, narratively it works aswell because they always like to show fusions as the ultimate triumph card and are always a more powerful option than goku and vegeta efforts alone.
@@unapersonamas5941 not sure why you said nah my guy, this is my take on it as well 👍