1996 Western Conference Semi Final Detroit Red Wings vs St Louis Blues Game 7

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  • @bosskey7212
    @bosskey7212 3 года назад +22

    The brilliance of play by play of Gary Thorne is so missed these days. Notice how when Yzerman scores the game winner he says "Score!!! Steve Yzerman, Detroit wins!".....then silence for a good 30 seconds. That is what great announcers do, allow the emotion of everything that just happened settle in with the viewers. Awesome game that was called by one of the best ever.

    • @michaeljoseph8674
      @michaeljoseph8674 3 года назад +1

      I agree absolute legend

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 3 года назад +2

      WHY IS ESPN/ABC not bringing GARY BACK?
      I have never been a big ALBERT fan. Sorry..
      DAN KELLY, GARY THORNE..TOP TWO ALL-TIME IN THAT ORDER..
      EMRICK TOP FIVE..
      CANADIAN BORN TV- KELLY, JOHN FORSLUND, DANNY GALLIVAN..

    • @miqallen6393
      @miqallen6393 7 месяцев назад +1

      Im a 49-year old St. Louis boy. I don't think that game was so "awesome" as you suggested. 😂😂😂 just kidding ...hey tho, a few days ago I read a comment that blamed Jon Casey for giving up Yzerman's shot from the Blue line. First off, Casey was standing on his head in this game. Was brilliant, after the Blues losing our stud goalie Grant Fuhr to injury. Second, Yzerman's shot came from the old, closer blue-line. 3rd, it was a daggum LASER OF A SHOT !!!!!!!!! Another note to this game is rarely did either team have enough chemistry to make more than one pass without turning the puck over. Sure it was fairly tight checking, bust as far as STL, Mike Keenan had too many personel changes as GM and HC. Great players, but needed more time to build chemistry. But "awesome" game ? Depends on who you ask. Lol 😂🙏💙 🐢

    • @sammacdonald6382
      @sammacdonald6382 5 месяцев назад

      No, they immediately break the mood by mumbling something about the Russians being crushed and Tavares's magical play...

  • @rehman98
    @rehman98 2 года назад +10

    One of the greatest NHL games ever played. Just look at the talent on the ice. Gretzky, Hull, Coffey, Yzerman, Federov, Ciccarelli....

  • @cleanliving1612
    @cleanliving1612 5 лет назад +18

    Doing the Lord's work uploading this piece of recent history

    • @duncanmacock1131
      @duncanmacock1131 4 года назад

      I was so hear broken,blues should of won this game,but he avs should thank the blues for taking Detroit to the limit,this team had 60 wins,and no one gave the blues a chance in this series

  • @y2gayishere815
    @y2gayishere815 5 лет назад +11

    one of my all-time favourite goals. i remember being 7 years old and how unexpected that goal was. the perfect shot.

  • @chr0nicstupidity
    @chr0nicstupidity 6 лет назад +11

    This was the first full hockey game I ever watched (live) which totally got me into hockey.

    • @joshuahoover6841
      @joshuahoover6841 5 лет назад +3

      I went to bed between overtime periods; I couldn't get to sleep, so I got back up just in time to see Stevie score.
      Best fucking decision!

  • @joshuahoover6841
    @joshuahoover6841 5 лет назад +12

    Cup wins aside, him scoring that goal is my all time faaaaaavorite Stevie Y memory

  • @wildeirishpoet
    @wildeirishpoet 5 лет назад +18

    Detroit was stacked.

    • @JasonSmith-pe5py
      @JasonSmith-pe5py Год назад +1

      Got their ass kicked by my Avs...2002 was the best Detroit team anyways...like 11 HOFers or something. Thats the best team ive ever seen-granted ive only closely followed the nhl since 1995,when the Avs were born. 2001 Avs are #2...teams in the salary cap era just dont compare to teams back then. They cant because of the cap.
      Even the best cap era teams-like my 2022 Avs-who have a legit argument as best,single season,cap era team ever...they still dont have the talent of Detroit,Colorado,or even NJ back then. Forsberg,& Federov were unbelievable players,but were only 2c on these teams cuz of Sakic,& Stevie Y.
      I will say,had Konstantinov not got in that unfortunate accident...him,& Lindstrom probably go down as the best d pair Ive ever seen. This Detroit team was great,& so was Colorado. But Detroit was still a bit soft,& not ready yet in 1996. But as great as the Avs were in 1996,& Wings were in 1997,& 98...2002 Detroit,& 2001 Colorado were better.
      And as long as we have a salary cap...it will literally be almost impossible for any team to ever challenge those teams in pure talent...not to mention experience of guys like Bourque,Blake,Roy,Sakic,Hasek,Chellios,Stevie Y,Hatcher,Hull,Robataile,etc...the list goes on,& on. But when healthy,the 2 best players on those teams were Lindstrom,& Forsberg.(not counting Roy,& Hasek-arguably the 2 best goalies ever-as its tough to compare goalies to skaters. Those guys are the 2 best goalies ive ever seen,though Vasilevsky,Broduer,& Belfour are in the argument)

    • @LincolnJamesHeathrowIII
      @LincolnJamesHeathrowIII 3 месяца назад

      ​@@JasonSmith-pe5pythat was long winded. You ever shut up ?

  • @billny33
    @billny33 3 года назад +5

    This might be the most legendary slapshot...ever.

  • @LqdSanity79
    @LqdSanity79 2 года назад +8

    MacTavish rockin it old school, without a helmet. After they made it a rule, they grandfathered it in and he was the last player to play without one. What's even weirder is watching older games where even the goalie isn't wearing a helmet or a mask. It's amazing any of them survived.

    • @otaviofrn_adv
      @otaviofrn_adv 2 года назад +1

      it was crazy. Red Wing legend Terry Sawchuk looked like a man exumated many times, his face had more scars than intact space due to puck hitting

    • @patboger1339
      @patboger1339 2 года назад +1

      Loved MacTavish back then! The modern equivalent is who will be the last player to not wear a visor. Down to maybe a dozen left. My theoretical money's on Ryan O'Reilly.

    • @media4401
      @media4401 3 месяца назад +1

      He also killed a girl

  • @nathanr5825
    @nathanr5825 Год назад +2

    One of the greatest game 7's in sports history. Still brings a tear to my eyes to watch it. The wings go on to lose to Colorado and that team changes so much before the 97 season. Shanahan, Murphy, Sandstorm, Greg Johnson, Sru Grimson, and Bob Errey come in and the rest is history.

    • @mangrove
      @mangrove Месяц назад

      Johnson was traded for Sandstrom, Grimson waived after the Shanahan deal, and Errey waived in January. Trading Dino was heavily criticized, but it gave more ice time to Lapointe and McCarty, Maltby becamea regular, and Kocur was added in December. That trade for Murphy was underrated at the time, as well. They got bigger, more physical, and wiser overall.

  • @stevehare5
    @stevehare5 6 лет назад +7

    This is awesome. Been looking for full Blues games with Gretzky for a whole now. Great to see this

    • @stevehare5
      @stevehare5 6 лет назад +2

      Virgil Moody no worries, any Gretzky-blues footage I can find is good stuff

    • @GLee-oe3op
      @GLee-oe3op 3 года назад

      Enjoy them while you can. He was so bad outside of Edmonton you’ll be hard pressed to find footage of them

    • @AV57
      @AV57 3 года назад +1

      @@GLee-oe3op, outside of Edmonton, Gretzky played 791 games and had 1,118 points (1.501 points per game). To put that into perspective, Gretzky’s post-Edmonton career was so good that even if you completely ignored his time in Edmonton he would still be the second highest points per game player in NHL history (only falling behind Mario Lemieux at 1.883 points per game).
      Your conclusion is incredibly off.

    • @miqallen6393
      @miqallen6393 7 месяцев назад

      I have found like 8-10 of em'. Im 49 and both a lifetime Gretzky and St. Louis Blues junkie. I recorded Wayne's debut w the Blues in Vancouver and his home debut vs Florida Panthers on my VCR and later onto a DVD. But youtube prolly has a dozen or so by now. 🐢

    • @miqallen6393
      @miqallen6393 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@GLee-oe3opwhat you just said is the most delusional thing I've ever read in the comments section of a youtube video concerning hockey. No way you even believe your own comment. Lol. Just saying 🐢

  • @goblue7516
    @goblue7516 3 дня назад

    2024 still here for my boys LETS GO RED WINGS

  • @September2004
    @September2004 3 года назад +7

    2:34:14 The Goal
    2:35:25 Gretzky's facial reaction
    2:36:38 Hull to Bowman: "Trade for me so I can get out of here!"

    • @JasonSmith-pe5py
      @JasonSmith-pe5py Год назад

      Hull played in Dallas,& went to 2 straight Finals...scoring the cup winning goal in 1999,so I think that conversation was still a few yrs off.

    • @September2004
      @September2004 Год назад

      @@JasonSmith-pe5py I meant it as a joke but even then, it doesn’t mean that they couldn’t have that conversation but it just never came to fruition until he was in Dallas.

  • @mjwatts1983
    @mjwatts1983 Год назад +1

    2:34:07
    It’s May 17, 1996
    We’re at Joe Louis Arena in Detroit, MI for Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Playoffs West Semifinals between the Presidents’ Trophy winner Detroit Red Wings and the St Louis Blues
    Look at the score bug in the upper left corner. 81 minutes of hockey has been played and no one has scored.
    How did we get here?
    Let’s rewind…

  • @patboger1339
    @patboger1339 2 года назад +3

    If Yzerman hadn't have scored that goal, the legendary Wings-Avs rivalry likely would not have been.

  • @rutgers16
    @rutgers16 2 года назад +1

    one of the best games played.

  • @oldredbarnman
    @oldredbarnman 3 года назад +1

    Was fortunate as a season ticket holder to have been at the Joe for many great games, this being one of them.

  • @Morpheen999
    @Morpheen999 4 года назад +1

    Man both of these Teams were stacked!

  • @rhg3rd
    @rhg3rd 4 года назад +4

    The number of slam-dunk Hall of Famers in this game is absurd...

  • @user-oe7ns9ny4k
    @user-oe7ns9ny4k 4 месяца назад

    Спасибо что можно окунуться в ту атмосферу русского Детройта

  • @petropetty
    @petropetty 2 года назад +2

    This game killed me as a Blues fan

  • @YURYVSEVOLOZHSKY
    @YURYVSEVOLOZHSKY 6 лет назад +6

    Battle of Titans! Great time - Great teams - Great Players! / Russia / St.Petersburg 2018*

  • @daltonmoree2773
    @daltonmoree2773 3 года назад +4

    This camera guy got lucky as hell to have the angle at 2:38:03

  • @adrianwalsh6053
    @adrianwalsh6053 2 года назад +1

    BLUES AND RED WINGS SERIES WAS GREAT IT WENT THE ENTIER DISDASE

  • @duncanmacock1131
    @duncanmacock1131 4 года назад +3

    Blues hof chopper,pronger hull Gretzky Glenn Anderson oh yeah let's not forget fuhr who got ran the series before,zezel was very good courtnal mactavish those guys are border line, Detroit fedorov Coffey lidstom,Steve y,konstitov would of been oh I forgot Shane Corson and Dino there was some amazing hockey players there,7 top 15 all time? At least,Gretzky hull Coffey chopper,Steve y federov glenn Anderson Chris pronger,nick lidstrom yeah these guys top 20 of the best all time

  • @skibbles827
    @skibbles827 Год назад +1

    2:38:00 sickest view of any goal ever scored

  • @timburr4453
    @timburr4453 Год назад +1

    what a job Fedorov did on Gretzky
    Spectacular white knuckle win by Detroit, but this 7 game knock down drag out series really took a lot out of Detroit

  • @weasel8826
    @weasel8826 Год назад +1

    John Casey ALMOST played a perfect game jeesh! LGRW

  • @wolfshade2890
    @wolfshade2890 4 года назад +2

    I remember this game. I knew Colorado was almost sure to win the next series as they were rested and Detroit was a tired team, and Colorado was playing better at the time.

    • @ckendall67
      @ckendall67 4 года назад

      This series took a lot more out of Detroit's sales than most people realized or expected at the beginning, the Wings probably were expected to polish off the Blues in quick fashion, whereas the Avs went through a tough series with Chicago but finished them off a few nights earlier and still had plenty of confidence entering the Detroit series. The Wings were still the heavy favorites and had all the pressure on them while the Avs didn't have as much expectations placed on them but as it turned out the Avs were clearly the better team vs the Wings.

    • @oldredbarnman
      @oldredbarnman 4 года назад

      @@ckendall67 Not saying the Wings would have won the series, but if Paul Coffey doesn't score a hattrick in Game 1 (2 goals for Detroit, and 1 he shot into his own net), the Wings would've won 2-1, and the series would've gone 7 games. One of the reasons Coffey got traded the next year.

    • @ThePaul3333
      @ThePaul3333 4 года назад

      @@ckendall67 sails

    • @September2004
      @September2004 3 года назад

      Yeah, Lidstrom confirmed the same thing.
      Also, they needed 6 games to defeat Winnipeg which normally would've been a sweep but that was the last year for that franchise before moving to Phoenix so they were playing their hearts out.
      Then they have this series which should also have been a sweep but the Blues somehow won 3 in a row.

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 3 года назад

      @@ckendall67, was there 50 percent off with that sale?
      That would take the wind out of my SAILS..

  • @weasel8826
    @weasel8826 Год назад

    this was a hard hitting but CLEAN game love it!

  • @lukeconverse6632
    @lukeconverse6632 Год назад

    Stevie Y. That is all. My all time favorite nhl player

  • @GoJordan
    @GoJordan 3 года назад +1

    2:34:07 - Steve Yzerman 2OT Goal

  • @thomasfaucher2756
    @thomasfaucher2756 2 года назад

    This is more entertaining than current hockey will ever be

  • @SeanGrady90
    @SeanGrady90 2 года назад +1

    1:28:02 listen closely and see if you can hear what the fan says

  • @mdoc1994
    @mdoc1994 5 месяцев назад

    I will never forget it. Yzerman had a reed Larson type slap shot. The joe was so bad a$$ back in the day!

  • @joeydrummer7929
    @joeydrummer7929 2 года назад +1

    Since I was too young in this era (born in 93) I’m not familiar . Did they used to wear solid jerseys on the road and the white jerseys at home?

    • @bennymania
      @bennymania 2 года назад +3

      Yes, that's correct. I still prefer teams wearing home whites.

  • @dendyxyz
    @dendyxyz 10 месяцев назад

    This game is surprisingly fast

  • @adrianwalsh5594
    @adrianwalsh5594 2 года назад

    This games is one of the more exciting game bye the Blues and Red wings the blues goalie Casey !! He been pretty good it went the distance seven games red wings goalie is ????????? Greszky played on the Blues never knew that wings goalie Mr Osgood and his great saves he made when the blues bombard Osgood goaltending is great Casey going great returning the favor on this scoceless game seven game

  • @jonnygrossman9771
    @jonnygrossman9771 6 лет назад +1

    Hey Virgil,
    Do you also happen to have a video of the entire 1995 NHL Awards?
    Best,
    Jonny

  • @DJ_Smooshypoops
    @DJ_Smooshypoops 8 месяцев назад

    I wish Grant Fuhr had been healthy for this series. It could’ve been different if the Blues didn’t have the backup in net. What a shame these two teams weren’t both 100%.

    • @miqallen6393
      @miqallen6393 7 месяцев назад

      I hear ya as a STL boy myself, but Jon Casey was OUTSTANDING in this game...even with giving up a straight up BULLET from the blueline💙

  • @wildeirishpoet
    @wildeirishpoet 5 лет назад

    Quote of the game.. Goalies were reminded in fact this is a contact sport

  • @duncanmacock1131
    @duncanmacock1131 4 года назад

    Detroit paying hard for the those teams now,the blues will be a tuff team for awhile,let's go blues

  • @SeanGrady90
    @SeanGrady90 2 года назад

    2:15:21 anyone know the name of the song? edit: I was able to Shazam it. It is called "Runaround Sue" by Dion

  • @adrianwalsh5594
    @adrianwalsh5594 2 года назад

    I never knew that wanye gresky played for st
    Louis blues he's my favorite player !!!

  • @jonnygrossman9771
    @jonnygrossman9771 6 лет назад

    Awesome Virgil! Do you happen to have any of the games from the 1997 Cup Finals?

  • @unklesalty3732
    @unklesalty3732 2 года назад

    Keith Primeau ... the Greg Oden of the NHL.

  • @billjones3497
    @billjones3497 4 года назад

    When hockey was the greatest sport in the world.

  • @nate8556
    @nate8556 2 года назад

    I dont think anybody will understand how mad this goal makes me

  • @duncanmacock1131
    @duncanmacock1131 4 года назад

    Imagine these guys with today's rules,hull would probably be a 1000 goal scorer,that guy good shoot the puck from anywhere any angle,between guys legs bar down,when you could still interfere by today's standards,so much has changed,now thing from ovie,he's great and no doubt would have 500 in this era,but his goals would drastically be less

  • @MichaelRojhay
    @MichaelRojhay 3 года назад +2

    I was so upset when Dino was traited...bs

    • @dannythomas417
      @dannythomas417 3 года назад

      At least Paul Coffey got traded. He deserved it for that Stephane Yelle goal against Colorado.

  • @detroitpride86
    @detroitpride86 5 лет назад +3

    2:34:15

    • @anthonygalbo9348
      @anthonygalbo9348 4 года назад +1

      i scrolled directly in the comments to find the goal, its a shame we didnt three-peat during the late 90s (96 97 and 98) colorado was just too good too :/ but ill take the back to back. im upsed that pittsburgh is the new back to back. they did early 90s back to back, then wings late 90s back to back, and pittsburgh late 2000s back to back :/ so unfortunate pittsburgs back on top for the back to back

  • @JasonSmith-pe5py
    @JasonSmith-pe5py Год назад

    Amazing moment,but bad goal to let in...let alone 2OT of game 7.And Detroit got beat by my Avs next round. I think Stevie Y had plenty of moments in all those Cup runs Id pick over that. Similar in 2002,Forsberg missed the entire reg season,came back & led the playoffs in scoring...despite Colorado not even making the Finals-cuz we got destroyed in game 7 of the 2002 WCFs by Detroit. Thats still 1 of the most amazing accomplishments ive seen-but i dont consider it Forsbergs signature moment...we didnt even get to the Finals. Granted the WCFs in 2002 were the de facto Cup Finals,& the same was true in 1996,& 1997.
    I also still say 2002 Colorado actually overachieved-even getting to game 7-cuz 2002 Detroit is the best team ive ever seen. Ive only closely followed the nhl since the Avs were born,so im not including teams before 1995. But 2002 Detroit is the best ive seen-like 11 HOFers or something. 2002 Avs had most of the team from 2001 (2nd best team ive ever seen)-but we had lost a few guys,including Bourque. Those 2 teams will probably always be the best teams ive seen-cuz of the salary cap. Even the best cap era teams,(2022 Avs are in the argument)-dont compare to 2002 Detroit or 2001 Colorado-it just isnt possible,with the salary cap.
    But as amazing as Yzermans goal was,or Forsberg leading the playoffs in scoring,after sitting all season ,& not making the Finals...I cant call those their signature moments. Forsbergs signature moment is probably the gold winning,shootout goal for Sweden,or his Finals hat trick in 1996. What he did in 2002 was much more amazing,but it didnt lead to a Cup. Same with Yzerman-he had plently of signature moments,that ended in Cups.

  • @joycenkenes
    @joycenkenes 3 года назад

    wow no visors ,these guys are nuts

    • @joeyc9208
      @joeyc9208 2 года назад

      Talk about nuts mctavish didn’t even wear a helmet

  • @johnmadara1252
    @johnmadara1252 2 года назад

    its only the semi finals too

  • @mjwatts1983
    @mjwatts1983 Год назад

    From UTree’s Blues Legacy of Failure 1967-2019
    1996
    Alright, you’re going all in this year!
    Keenan has all but cloned the 94 Rangers formula of 80s Oilers and early 90s Blackhawk players
    He may have gutted the team he started with but you got the fucking Great One at the deadline to help complement the Golden Brett
    Now go and get that Cup!
    2:34:15
    I forgot to ask: how’s that Gretzky trade working out?

  • @MotoMaximus
    @MotoMaximus 4 года назад +1

    1:49:15 👍

  • @JeRrYxVaNcE
    @JeRrYxVaNcE Год назад

    Why didn’t homie have a helmet?

  • @duncanmacock1131
    @duncanmacock1131 4 года назад +1

    Lots of missed calls both ways,but I seen a lot of interference,and slashes that wasn't called on Detroit

  • @robertsprouse9282
    @robertsprouse9282 3 года назад

    The NHL OF THE MID- 1990'S TRULY THE BEST AND MOST TALENTED ERA. I would put "original"-6 right behind it.
    Today's NHL is far inferior when compared to the nineties.
    Just look at the rosters back then.
    Every team had more than a handful of guys that played a long time in the league, and every team .500/84 points or better, had more than just a handful of WORLD CLASS PLAYERS.
    PRE-KHL..AND PRE- KNEE SLIDING ONLY GOALIES..PRE-SALARY CAP..
    FAR SUPERIOR COMPARED TO THE NO-NAMES, OUTSIDE OF A FEW, PLAYING TODAY.

    • @joeydrummer7929
      @joeydrummer7929 2 года назад

      You’re just romanticizing an era. Hockey players nowadays are far more talented on average . Sports evolve as do the talent of the players . Players are overwhelmingly more talented nowadays then they were then. And that’s not to see those players from that era aren’t great . They are. But to act like they’re better than modern day players is the opposite of true.

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 2 года назад

      @@joeydrummer7929, define talent at the professional level.
      Hint: ITS NOT JUST ATHLETICISM..

  • @weasel8826
    @weasel8826 2 года назад

    lgrw!

  • @leafyutube
    @leafyutube 4 года назад +1

    Tough loss for St. Lose It.

  • @bobbythehandsomeguyjohnson6882
    @bobbythehandsomeguyjohnson6882 4 года назад +1

    They shouldn't be overly excited about winning against my Blues they should be ashamed of themselves that it took them two double overtime tied 0-0 when they had a superior team to what we had

    • @duncanmacock1131
      @duncanmacock1131 4 года назад +1

      That was a very good blues team,they just had mike Keenan as a coach,the worst move all time,the great one wanted to stay here,his wife is from here,how do you not sign him

    • @duncanmacock1131
      @duncanmacock1131 4 года назад

      But we got the cup now,an are sitting in a good position to make a run at a dynasty if petro resigned it's a tuff team to deal with,and Robert Thomas,wow and Sanford,two emerging stars,they got the youth,they got the players in place,petro signed I see a 5 year run were we can get two r 3 more cups...LETS GOOOOOO BLUUUUUUEEEEEESSSS

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 3 года назад +2

      @@duncanmacock1131, that post did not age well.

  • @mastershake6292
    @mastershake6292 5 лет назад

    This game was SOOOOOO boring. Stevie's GWG in OT was literally the only highlight of the game.

    • @mmgubin
      @mmgubin 5 лет назад +1

      Mango Fett huh? How about all the amazing saves and intense moments throughout the entire game?

    • @thenickfoxx
      @thenickfoxx 4 года назад +2

      How was it boring? Haha. Literally a defensive masterpiece by both d cores and netminders. Made the stevie y goal that much more special

    • @duncanmacock1131
      @duncanmacock1131 4 года назад +1

      I'm a blues fan since the late 70s an bud I'm sorry you think this was a boring game,this is easily 1 of the top ten playoff games of all time

    • @duncanmacock1131
      @duncanmacock1131 4 года назад +1

      He doesn't know hockey there's no way to argue this

    • @duncanmacock1131
      @duncanmacock1131 4 года назад +1

      You better count the hof players in this game

  • @johnzagar6177
    @johnzagar6177 Год назад

    The 90s really had the worst hockey ever, all that talent on the ice and only 1 to nothing, really? They should have called more penalties on the lazy defensemen that just hooked and grabed everyone

    • @benhill7216
      @benhill7216 Год назад +1

      Teams back in the 90's had this thing... I think they called them defensive-forwards. They realized that offense may win a game, but defense will win a series. The only so called "lazy defensemen" played for the Devils. Other teams had forwards supporting defenseman in systems like the Left Wing Lock that mitigated clean shots and easy offensive zone possession. If you think the 90's had the worst hockey, what era do you think had the best? I hope it is not the current era where the guys in stripes think they play for one of the teams.

    • @johnzagar6177
      @johnzagar6177 Год назад +1

      @@benhill7216 1980s all the way

    • @benhill7216
      @benhill7216 Год назад +1

      @@johnzagar6177 Enforcers and high scoring forwards. The 1980's had some real gems, most definitely.