@@joeblack5253 Any heroes that have invisible reveal talents. Such as Rexxar, Tassadar, Kharazim, Brightwing. But the list keeps getting shorter for every year when Blizzard nerf or remove the invisible reveal talents for many heroes.
@@makedredd299Rexxar's Flare is really bad talent even against stealth heroes. Bird of Prey benefit is much more consistent, because it allows you to hardly dominate on solo lane and you can double soak faster, which is what Rexxar does 90% of game time. You don't need Flare for yourself if you have a good map awareness. You can almost always get back to your towers if you see Valeera coming to your lane, or you can easily decloak her with Q or W and her attack will fail. Picking Flare to save your teammates from stealthies is also not a great idea, because Rexxar is an offlaner. Most of the time he is far from his team. It' not efficient if your Flare saves someone 1 or 2 times for the entire game, but you'll not win the solo lane or you'll soak a lot slower and eventually will have less time for other game tasks.
hey fan, thx to you, returned to the game after the 5 years (last real competitive season 2017, diamond 1). Now i got bronze 1, and even fall into b2. Hella rusty, but im climbing now and builds are really help. thanks for entertainment and knowledge
Haven't watched yet - saving for later. Just wanted to say thanks because Valeera is one of my top picks and she DOES take some explaining. Let's help the would-be Valeera players out.
imho valeera is pretty reliable even vs good sidestepping, since you can and should be melee range for the Q, and then it's hard to dodge. I think the best counter to valeera is coordination and counterengaging her if she goes for the backline. If she has to wait for your team to be out of cooldowns to go in that means that you basicaly got an entire fight 5v4 while she was waiting in the sideline.
@@marcocapitani4474 I mean you need to at least attempt side stepping, in this game most people just walk in a straight line, you just need to dodge one. Valeera is good at catching people alone and during rotations, actual team fight is very difficult to pull off unless their whole team is CCed like this game.
Valeera is probably my most picked and played character. I would have added in the explained that when you first activate stealth you have about 4-5 second where you can't be brought out of it by damage but other than that very well done
@soak_king Funny cause I do and it's a lot longer than 1 second. There is a cast bar that shows up called "entering deep shadows" which is what I'm referencing which takes a but to cast....odd you didn't know that
@@lionwhyte___2634 that cast bar only shows the time left before your stealth abilities get increased range. Read the description of her D button: "Vanish from sight, becoming stealthed, gaining 20% movement speed and access to new abilities. For the FIRST second, Valeera is UNREVEALABLE and can pass through other units. Remaining stationary for at least 1.5 seconds while stealthed grants invisible. After being stealthed FOR 3 SECONDS, Ambush, Cheap Shot and Garrote have 100% increased range and cause Valeera to teleport to the target when used."
@soak_king You're still wrong, it does both of those things because I've been hit by an AoE from kael thas while it was filling long after the 1 second expired and was still stealthed, I reamin silent cause there is no use talking to someone so ignorant
In some cases it's more important to deal a bit more burst damage to secure the kill rather than wait 1 second for another Q. Most of the time Fan only uses evis at 3 combo points.
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Thank you for the overexplaination ! I always thought that I should w while decloaked lol
Highly appreciate your overexplained games)
I would like a “over explanation” series in each heroes. I would appreciate it.
I always like to pick heroes that can protect my Bronze/Silver & QM teams from getting murdered by cloakers, especially Valeera.
like what? i play arthas\varian, bronze and silver know how to throw shit in taunt xD
@@joeblack5253 Any heroes that have invisible reveal talents. Such as Rexxar, Tassadar, Kharazim, Brightwing. But the list keeps getting shorter for every year when Blizzard nerf or remove the invisible reveal talents for many heroes.
@@makedredd299Rexxar's Flare is really bad talent even against stealth heroes.
Bird of Prey benefit is much more consistent, because it allows you to hardly dominate on solo lane and you can double soak faster, which is what Rexxar does 90% of game time.
You don't need Flare for yourself if you have a good map awareness. You can almost always get back to your towers if you see Valeera coming to your lane, or you can easily decloak her with Q or W and her attack will fail.
Picking Flare to save your teammates from stealthies is also not a great idea, because Rexxar is an offlaner. Most of the time he is far from his team. It' not efficient if your Flare saves someone 1 or 2 times for the entire game, but you'll not win the solo lane or you'll soak a lot slower and eventually will have less time for other game tasks.
hey fan, thx to you, returned to the game after the 5 years (last real competitive season 2017, diamond 1). Now i got bronze 1, and even fall into b2. Hella rusty, but im climbing now and builds are really help. thanks for entertainment and knowledge
I think i can't live without ur youtube Channel. Hi from France Fan
I didn't realize it was a GM game until 10 minutes in
Haven't watched yet - saving for later. Just wanted to say thanks because Valeera is one of my top picks and she DOES take some explaining. Let's help the would-be Valeera players out.
Another overexplained game awesome thanks fan!
If you watch these videos, lets comment every one of them, Fan deserves them!
Valeera rules in the land of no sidestep.
imho valeera is pretty reliable even vs good sidestepping, since you can and should be melee range for the Q, and then it's hard to dodge. I think the best counter to valeera is coordination and counterengaging her if she goes for the backline. If she has to wait for your team to be out of cooldowns to go in that means that you basicaly got an entire fight 5v4 while she was waiting in the sideline.
@@marcocapitani4474 I mean you need to at least attempt side stepping, in this game most people just walk in a straight line, you just need to dodge one.
Valeera is good at catching people alone and during rotations, actual team fight is very difficult to pull off unless their whole team is CCed like this game.
thank you for explaining!! loved the video!! :D
Very nice I learned a lot
Thank you!
also, remember the old starcraft-like invisibility, and all novas towers of doom event where snipe oneshots heroes?
The only hots play who share techs
1:41 how the hell did that Q miss
Can we just adress the fact that Valeera can outrun an actual horse while squatting? Someone definetly didn't miss her leg days
I know Valeera is hella toxic in QM
but please tell me how 17:00 is fair?!
It's fair. With 3 lv lead and all talents, an assassin taking 10 secs to kill a backline hero in 1v1 is not something to write home about.
I ran into hanzo multiple times on EU. He spends most games boasting how he's in Fan's games and how hes sooo good...
Gg!
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Valeera is probably my most picked and played character. I would have added in the explained that when you first activate stealth you have about 4-5 second where you can't be brought out of it by damage but other than that very well done
Valeera is unrevealable for only 1 second after using Vanish. Oddly that you don't know it.
@soak_king Funny cause I do and it's a lot longer than 1 second. There is a cast bar that shows up called "entering deep shadows" which is what I'm referencing which takes a but to cast....odd you didn't know that
@@lionwhyte___2634 that cast bar only shows the time left before your stealth abilities get increased range.
Read the description of her D button: "Vanish from sight, becoming stealthed, gaining 20% movement speed and access to new abilities. For the FIRST second, Valeera is UNREVEALABLE and can pass through other units. Remaining stationary for at least 1.5 seconds while stealthed grants invisible. After being stealthed FOR 3 SECONDS, Ambush, Cheap Shot and Garrote have 100% increased range and cause Valeera to teleport to the target when used."
@@lionwhyte___2634 so what do you say now?
@soak_king You're still wrong, it does both of those things because I've been hit by an AoE from kael thas while it was filling long after the 1 second expired and was still stealthed, I reamin silent cause there is no use talking to someone so ignorant
why are you eviscerating with only 2 combo points? waste of energy just get 3 then evis lol
In some cases it's more important to deal a bit more burst damage to secure the kill rather than wait 1 second for another Q. Most of the time Fan only uses evis at 3 combo points.
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