It's not just a worst article on Godzilla It's the worst article on horror movies as the whole Suspiria at #99 but The Human Centipede 2 at #92? Screw this
I think the woman who called it "rage bait" was correct. Nobody would be talking about there list if it were done correctly. But now people are sharing it, saying, "Can you believe this sh*t?!"
There is also Texas Chainsaw Massacre at number one. Literally who puts TCM at no. 1? I bet this article was either written by a complete tourist who didn't see these films, or partially written by an AI. I cannot believe anyone who saw TCM and the 80's The Thing could willingly put TCM ahead of it.
"as if they were toy models" "man in a dinosaur suit" "tacky puppet show" Not surprised at all, critics have shat on and dismissed Kaiju movies for decades, all they see is "cheap cheesy rubber suits and toy cars" but don't bother to clean the trash out of their brains and realise that these movies were FAR from "cheap" with gorgeous sets, brilliant sound design and highly detailed suits and miniature models made with such refined craft and care, Eiji Tsuburaya was one of the greatest special effects artists to ever live (p.s a movie with a smaller budget doesn't automatically mean "bad" or "cheap" effects). It makes me sad and angry this outdated and outright incorrect notion is still a thing, with critics and actual fans :(
@@Collector261 Because according to these kinds of writers, stop motion is a lot of tedious and difficult work that requires a good eye and a deep understanding of kinesthetics. A rubber suit monster just needs a guy to stumble around on a set.
But here comes modernity to accuse them of being racist on top of it which is just polarizing. You could critique a lot of King Kong's special effects too, sure, it must be windy on Skull Island the way his fur is constantly whipping around. But it is clear they just like stop motion more than suits, and there was western suitmation it just gets dismissed for the same reasons by critics. I have known people that hate anime and love western animation, but showed them Akira and they still loved it. It is just the style and the tropes they dislike and Akira minimizes those.
Honestly, what else would I expect? Critics are often full of it. Remember when John Carpenter's The Thing was considered trash? Critics were wrong then and they're wrong now. Critic reviews, awards. None of it matters that much. It's all self promotion. Often concerned with industry politics of the day and not often on merit. I've come to learn that it's best to see for yourself and come to your own conclusions.
I remember back in 1998 when Tristar released their fiasco that they called “Godzilla” , the newspapers gave it very favorable reviews and ratings, talking about it only in terms of its special effects and Howe much “better” it was than the old original Japanese movie with its “Primitive” and “Outdated and fake looking” effects. Later when the Tristar movie tanked, there was another article (It could have been by the same writer) saying that reason that the Tristar Godzilla was such a failure was because people kept thinking about how “terrible and unbelievable” the old original movie was with it’s special effects. Like gee, it couldn’t possibly be that the Tristar movie was a lousy movie for its own reasons, oh no! It HAS TO BE because of a SUPOSSED bad reputation of the original, in fact better movie. You can’t fix Stupidity, especially Willful Stupidity .
Went through the list. Laughable. I especially liked the shot of Lon Chaney in The Mummy's Tomb (1942) in place for the article on The Mummy (1932) which starred Boris Karloff. So not only does Variety employ brainlets to do their writing, they employ them to do their research. It also opens up the broader question on how little respect ALL fans of the fantasy genres are treated. In future, hire people that LOVE horror to write and research your articles.
Gojira is way more unsettling than King Kong, especially when you consider it's actual implications and real life parallel. No disrespect to King Kong, great film. However, Gojira 1954 is the better horror film as it is quite literally based on real horror.
Especially since it’s more a horror film for Kong as he is kidnapped, taken from his home, then shot down when he just wants to be alone with a lady while humanity doesn’t learn a lesson, meanwhile godzilla is created from humanity’s mistakes and greed, appearing and destroying everything as humanities defenses can’t even do so much as make him blink, later to be killed by a super weapon and humanity learns that if they keep overusing nuclear weapons, another Godzilla will for sure appear and be even worse. Case and point: Kong was trapped with the humans, while humans were trapped with Godzilla
@@Tabi-KunI mean - the final quote of King Kong implies that some sort of lesson was learned. Otherwise, I think that’s a very interesting comparison between the original Kong and Godzilla. Are there other comparisons between the two characters?
@@williammorahan4907 I can’t really think of any rn. Also just so no confusion comes, at the start I meant the movie was more of horror in Kongs eyes since we humans were the monsters, while Godzilla was horror in humanities eyes as Godzilla was the unstoppable monster
@@williammorahan4907 1962 King Kong vs Godzilla didn’t really have much meaning I think, Godzilla is downplayed to just be a destructive bully while Kong is promoted to a thunder god, hence why he has electricity powers and is immune to Godzillas atomic breathe
I'm honestly surprised that they would rank Texas Chainsaw Massacre over The Exorcist and Psycho. Given how clueless these people are, I would've assumed that they'd view TCM as too "low brow".
Even seeing the American dub shouldn't have done THAT much to make them dismiss it. There are definitely substantial reasons why it's the inferior version of the movie. But it doesn't make it any less horrifying.
I read the article the other day and there were sadly a lot of entries with this almost aura of distain. I remember the Halloween entry almost trying to suggest that it’s what Ebert called a “dead teenager movie” when the truth is that his positive review of it changed the tide for how critics looked at the movie. It felt like it was only included because it had to be rather than celebrating how great of a movie it is.
@@billscarnage The original King Kong has been considered a horror movie (or at least a monster movie) for many decades now. It would be more surprising if it wasn’t on there, really.
I agree with the lady calling it rage bait, that's basically all these outlets do. They intentionally anger the fans of certain properties because it gets more people looking at it, especially if they have a youtube channel.
I made an entire video on stuff like this. I am genuinely concerned people will actually listen to things like doctor skipper and variety and force Godzilla into the same cage King Kong was: just the same movie again and again and again, simply because "that's the good one".
Am I the only one that’s angry that Godzilla 54 still hasn’t been indoctrinated into the national film registry? It’s a very iconic movie that deserves to be there.
You can tell the disingenuousness of the article by how they downplay the horror of the original Gojira by talking down about the suitmation, and the use of miniatures as a contracts to the nuclear horrors allegory Godzilla represents. Meanwhile, the original King Kong film, which arguably isn’t a real horror film, gets praised for its effects, creature design, and symbolism. I can forgive Gojira 1954 being lower on the list and someone having a lesser opinion of the film, but don’t just insult the clearly revolutionary work and deep meaning of the film which set a new trend in the film industry.
Their criticism of Godzilla’s ‘kitsch’ special effects makes as much sense as them complaining about King Kong’s ‘jerky’ stop motion or Jurassic Park’s ‘plastic’ CGI, at that point you have to wonder if they’re complaining that Toho didn’t literally engineer a 50m kaiju to rampage and cause billions of yen in damage
Times have changed, I remember people mocking Kong for being silly, and criticizing the stop motion in contrast to the makeup effects of the universal monster films. I love toku and stop mo equally, and both have their strengths and weaknesses. But they are niche interests, and most people are just fair weather fans, so more often than few, they barely know what they're talking about vs serious fans
"Godzilla is great but mmmm he's a bit tacky" The man in the suit would like. Have a word of you. Sorry. don't mean to sound rude to the article and the people that made them and probably just doing their job so they can earn a decent pay, idk what they get paid.. but please don't dis Godzilla.
I shamelessly prefer King Kong, as a character, over Godzilla. But the denigration of Gojira and the power of the film’s themes, historical context, and lingering effect as a commentary of nuclear weaponry is appalling.
Imo there weren't a lot of those fans before the monsterverse movies were made. I don't blame these movies for it, as I like them too, but they did attract a lot of "lmao these older japanese trash movies look so cheesy haha" fans.
@@ZillaGame77or hell the oh soo insufferable "american Godzilla is worse than Japanese Godzilla because the former is too cheesy and superheroesque" fans that thinks they're Godzilla experts just because they binge watched the first three monsterverse movies and watched minus one
@@XD-sc4ix One is attacking the concept of fun kaiju movies for no reason and the other is straight up disrespecting the hard work and craftsmanship of the older japanese movies.
Here is another bad one: In Listverse's ridicolous top 10 movie monsters all time, Mothra is place in number 5 because she isn't "too scary" compared to The Sharktopus (who is in number 10) I know Mothra is not scary, but she isn't meant to.
I wish people would stop applying racism to everything. I agree that shitting on Godzilla like that is in poor taste but it's hardly racism to criticise movie effects, no matter how baseless and cringe inducing that criticism is.
Siskel & Ebert died. No, I didn't always agree with them (nor did they agree with each other a lot of the time), but their reviews gave me an idea if I would like a movie or not. Sometimes they would praise a movie, but they described it with enough detail without spoiling the movie* that I would know that the movie they were praising was not one I would enjoy. * An exception is that one of them did infamously spoil the twist in The Crying Game.
I recall hating Roger Ebert. Back when “Batman” , “Batman Returns”, and “Batman Forever” were released, Ebert gave them an each a failure, he said because “ The series is too dark! Batman is SUPPOSED TO BE LIGHT AND CAMPY, just like it was in the 1960’s TV series.” ( yes he actually brought up that series and insisted that is the correct way of doing Batman). Later when “Batman and Robin” came out, the fans considered it the weakest, least liked movie in the series at that time. But Ebert was ecstatic about it, saying that it was light hearted and campy, just like Batman was supposed to be! As a rule I thumb, I would always assume that if Roger Ebert says a movie is bad, assume that it is in fact a very good movie. If Ebert says a movie is good, then assume that the film that Ebert likes is in fact terrible.
Backlash aside, the original Gojira and Kong aren't Horror movies. They had horror elements but I see them as Thrillers if anything. Also why is Texas Chainsaw Massacre first place? TCM is great but Evil Dead II is the GOAT
the godzilla bit against the kong side reads like a 1940s propaganda writer trying to minimize the massacre the US did to two cities full of almost exclusively innocent citizens. its disgusting.
i havent seen King Kong. is there anything close to "we´ll be with your father again", the sayonara broadcast, the train scene, the little kids moms corpse being carried away while they cry, or the boy seeing the house with his family inside getting stomped?
I absolutely wish that that the American studio had put in subtitles in the US release of what those Japanese people were saying. I suppose they didn’t want to upset all those former B29 crews. (Hey American “heroes “, what did you think was happening to those civilians on the ground were you were dropping those nukes and firebombs !!?? Also while I’m at it, just how many Revenges For Pearl Harbor were we supposed to enact ; especially out upon the civilian population !!??)
@@Collector261 damn, they didnt dub or sub the people? thats honestly pretty evil considering what that film is about. thats why i never watch dubs or western re-edits
@@Collector261 the Atomic Bombings were not Revenge for Pearl Harbor, they were to end the War Quickly and Make Japan Surrender Unconditionally We got revenge for Pearl Harbor with Doolittle's Raid in 1941 Had Turman not signed the Order to use the Atom Bombs, we would have been forced to fight a Protracted Naval Invasion of the Home Islands and that would have been a Slaughter for the Japanese as they(Military and Civilian Personal) were going to fight to the Death for their Emperor
I don’t think the writer is racist, rather they’re just bias towards Godzilla movies, probably from the decades of western media making fun of the effects in Godzilla movies.
Both films are incredible and both deserve unlimited high praise. Though, if I had to choose between the two, I'd go for King Kong, merely because I love Skull Island's jungle atmosphere and intense creature scenes, along with the theme of man and nature colliding with each other and how each species would react. But when it comes to the titular monsters themselves, I mostly prefer Godzilla. My favourite version of him is from GMK.
I agree Godzilla 1954 is a great horror movie but, I has to much love and I think it doswnt need that much love compared to Godzilla vs Destoroyah because that’s my favorite Godzilla movie.
Godzilla it's not actually a metaphor for Japan suffered in world war II it's meant to represent the Lucky dragon number 5 incident where a nuclear fish boat near the bikini atoll the boat is Honorable and you can go in Tokyo and you can touch the lucky dragon and see it
The thing is that the Nostaliga Critic is a character/persona created by Doug Walker to entertain people. The “critic” that made this ranking wants to be taken seriously.
"An apocalyptic puppet show" the way they wrote this review for Gojira is an insult to Honda's, Tanaka's, and especially Tsuburaya's legacy. It seems that Westerners are still to this day dismissive of Tokusatsu (I hate to sound racist towards Westerners but I'm sorry it's true) while they over praise O Briens original King Kong which I understand that movie itself is a masterpiece, but Eiji Tsuburaya broke new grounds with Godzilla in his own way as no creature suit at the time that resembled a dinosaur looked anywhere near as good as the shodaigoji suit. Without Tsuburaya Tokusatsu like Godzilla and Ultraman would never be the same and it's a shame people treat the best of his work like this.
I don't want to make a blanket statement about critics because I have seen some pretty tame critic reviews that basically match audience reception, and people tend to ignore those over the ones that are egregiously out of touch. But I DO think there's a substantiated claim to made that SOME critics are basically falling into groupthink and contrarianism. I heard a movie critic once describe how he left the big company he was hired onto basically because they all had the same opinions about how the stuff people enjoy is lowbrow garbage while movies with "real" artistic merit were the only ones work even watching the whole way through. An ivory tower echo chamber where Citizen Cane and Gone with the Wind are the only things held any kind of high regard. I think this is probably a similar situation, where they're more inclined to give genre fiction a chance but only under the auspices of what is art and what is not as decided by stuffy old people.
Blue checkmark certainly helps leaving a more thought up opinion. But myself and others quoted in the video and many more other fans had quite an interesting discussion about how Japanese effects films are porrayed. It's hard to really excuse showing such ignorance today because everyone knows any pre-digital effects are dated but there's some respect given to one that isn't given to others and the causes of why tokusatsu had and sometimes still has bad reputation even when Japan was the leading voice in the effects films don't excuse that.
of course it's the standard overused "muh racism" and whatever again. Movie and game critics working for official publications are all utter trash and should be ignored at all times.
I as a fan of both (King Kong more so) I believe the reason they think (or one of) Godzilla seems tacky and b movie ish is probably because they think the stop motion and miniatures are better ( i also think stop motion is superior in my personal taste ) suitmation is used in plenty of b movies and kid stuff they put some lines together in thier head and lets not forget the article was probably worked on by more than one person and the rankings clearly show they prefer King Kong in the first place although they are to be held accountable for their biased and ignorant reviews
"So lets' talk about this Variety article..." Oh, say no more. Variety. Of course it's sh*t. But that said, I can't shake the feeling that y'all just pissed they ranked Kong higher 😆 Contrary to what dude said about how they would never say this about Kong, I'm surprised they DIDN'T accuse Kong of being racist and problematic. That's usually what happens.
I agree. I've actually seen people do this! They say "Kong clearly represents black men, and his abduction of Anne Darrow represents white people's fears of black men being romantic with white women!" Because when THEY look at a gorilla it makes them think of black people, they just ASSUME everyone is racist like they are. And their racism is the filmmakers' fault somehow.
I don’t know If I’d call this racism. I get why you would, I just think this might be something slightly different. Because if a Japanese-American made a movie, it probably wouldn’t get treated like a Japanese film. I think this is…Nationalism? Foreign movies tend to get downplayed. ‘If it’s not Hollywood, it’s shit’. That’s where this comes from. There may also be a timeframe issue. King Kong is 22 years older, which probably adds to the predjudice.
"A tacky ingenious atomic puppet show?" What does that make a movie like the Avengers an overblown heroic green screened video game? The people wrote this article are full of it.📌😑☢️🐸📺 🤯🦸♂️🟩🎮
I can’t believe all the ignorance coming from these young Godzilla fans in the comments trying to disrespect the original King Kong. To say that Godzilla is a horror film, and King Kong isn’t is crazy. Y’all definitely haven’t seen the movie, and it shows.
@@MazinGo-1972 Yes, it is. The original King Kong is rightfully labeled as a classic horror film alongside the other greats like, Wolfman, Frankenstein, and Dracula. So is Godzilla. Both are classic horror films. Just because there’s action, and adventure doesn’t make it any less horror. If you look it up right now, it’s labeled as “horror/adventure” which is accurate. Not sure why y’all are so combative about this.
@@MazinGo-1972 Also, the lost Spider Pitt Sequence that was later cut was shown at a test screening, and the audience were so terrified that they decided to axe the scene.
The Incredible Shrinking Man? Really? Invasion of the Body Snatchers? Really? Why not add Forbidden Planet (the horrors of the Id)? The Blob? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Why isn't the original The Thing From Another World (1951) which is ostensibly closer to horror than SF than the remake, on this list? I don't think these "writers" know a f________g thing about fantasy genres in film. At all. If they had brains (which they don't) they would at the very least had Taxi Driver (1976) in the top ten. We know why they couldn't include DePalma's masterful Dressed To Kill or Sisters, don't we? Wages of Fear?
Original King Kong was a masterpiece in special effects and broke a LOT, and I mean a LOT, of new ground in cinema making. That’s a fact. Godzilla was great, but nowhere near groundbreaking as 1933 Kong. Live with it and accept it
@@bulb9970Godzilla having more movies does NOT mean he has a bigger legacy. So many filmmakers went into film at all because of King Kong. I can’t say the same for Godzilla
I smell bias with this article. Also the original King Kong is not a horror film. It does have some elements of horror but it’s mostly a fantasy adventure film. Gojira on the other hand is way more horror based. It treats its plot seriously while showing us the devastation that the humans go through as Godzilla is attacking Tokyo. While I do love the original King Kong, I prefer the original Godzilla film more in my opinion. Besides King Kong is a classic masterpiece of a film but it’s more of a retelling of Beauty and the Beast while Godzilla is more about nature taking its revenge on mankind for their arrogance and the dangers of atomic weapons. Whoever wrote this article clearly did not watch the movie or didn’t even bother to do research.
You could maybe debate that Godzilla is a horror movie (especially Godzilla vs. Hedorah good god) but King Kong? Now I know these guys don't actually know what they are talking about
Oh great! Another bunch of high brow critics bashing one film, while calling another one great! Meanwhile, Godzilla is on the Criterion collection! Whers King Kong?!??!? Oh, I forgot, who's got the Academy Award for best special effects?
King Kong was among the first movies to be put on the Criterion Collection back in 1984, and two Kong movies got Academy Awards for special effects (among other Academy Awards that Kong films have won).
No means of disrespect intended on my part. I'm just saying that King Kong(33 version) is always on a pedestal with these high brow critics. It will always be a great movie. But , to put down Gojira as a puppet? It's an insult!
So it's the worst article ever because in their personal opinion they thought King Kong 1933 was better than Godzilla 1954? that's it? with the way you babies are describing it you would've thought they wrote a story on how they flew to japan and took a piss on the graves of the Nagasaki victims.
No, that's not what they said. I would also rank the original King Kong higher than the original Godzilla, but Variety was disdainful towards Godzilla. If that's how they feel about Godzilla, why is it even on their list of "Best Horror Movies" in the first place?
I agree SOO much. sure they did rank Godzilla kinda bad but I guarantee everyone's just mad because king Kong was ranked higher lol. I bet if it was the other way around nobody would be mad
Why are either of these films, King Kong or Godzilla, in a list about horror films? Neither is horror. King Kong is a fantasy adventure and Godzilla is Science Fiction. Although both have horrific elements, neither is a horror film.
I disagree, when the movies were originally released they were considered horror movies. I know that our modern sensibilities don’t view them as particularly scary but I don’t think that changes anything.
@@TheDrpretorious Neither were referred to as horror films or, case in point, ARE horror films. Both are monster movies. In King Kong's case, it was referred to as a romantic thriller. Gojira is a kaiju or daikaiju movie. Neither is Jaws a horror film. If post modernist dip💩💩💩💩💩like the "writers" at Variety want to subvert the definition of "horror", better to stick to top 25-50 movies rather than throwing in SF classics like The Incredible Shrinking Man or Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Why not throw in Forbidden Planet (the horror of the Id) etc. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
@@TheDrpretorious You're wrong. Neither is horror. Neither is Jaws. Neither is Invasion of the Body Snatchers (both versions) or The Incredible Shrinking Man or The Blob. Lazy research. Lazy definition. Lazy writing. Period. Over 100,000 actual HORROR films made in over 100 years and this is the list?
@@joemadden4160 I mean I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree but I’d say most of those movies fit the definition of a horror for me. I agree some have a strong science fiction element, but you can have sci-fi horror. And again, you can make the argument that they’re not scary and therefore not horror, but what’s scary is subjective. Heck, if we’re going on that basis I’d say there’s very few horror movies in my opinion because very few movies do I find legitimately frightening.
Sorry - I'm a 59 year old Godzilla fan (and Horror guru) and I agree with the Variety article. Godzilla was and still is in many ways, just a puppet and a Man in a suit, stomping on poorly made model miniatures. And as far as the Nuclear element is concerned, it was done many times before Godzilla. You also have to remember that Japan tried its own King Kongs after (King Kong), long before Godzilla came along. Those films were lost ... though they did exploit the effects and giant monster demands of cinema - to which Godzilla was based on - so Godzilla wasn't all that inventive or ":groundbreaking". Also (you) used a pic of Mighty Joe Young for Kong.
King Kong is not a fucking horror movie yeah the beast is frightening in the beginning but that’s not the main focus also Texas is incredible but come on their is no #1 for it def top 10 tho there are just better horror films. Shrinking man not horror sci fi with disturbing elements. Planet terror is supposed to be shit and having motherfucking repulsion all the way down at 100 is disgraceful. Jaws thriller not horror. No mention of nope. Out of all the Eli Roth movies they choose hostel 2. List is genuinely AI generated
Dude Gojira is HORRIFYING, and In my opinion, the Scariest version of Godzilla imo Kong is a great film, but Gojira deserves respect! This is just racist. Like stopmotion ape on a pretty set tower: Great! Big monster destroying beautiful Tokyo set: "tacky puppet show"
"you know, theres a reason why donkeys shouldn't talk'
-shrek
lol i love shrek
How is Godzilla less scary than big Monke like are you retarded
It's not just a worst article on Godzilla
It's the worst article on horror movies as the whole
Suspiria at #99 but The Human Centipede 2 at #92? Screw this
I think the woman who called it "rage bait" was correct. Nobody would be talking about there list if it were done correctly. But now people are sharing it, saying, "Can you believe this sh*t?!"
I mean this is the same article that bashes Deadpool and Wolverine being the most successful superhero movie
Also why the fuck is Salo so high? That was the worst part of that article
There is also Texas Chainsaw Massacre at number one. Literally who puts TCM at no. 1? I bet this article was either written by a complete tourist who didn't see these films, or partially written by an AI. I cannot believe anyone who saw TCM and the 80's The Thing could willingly put TCM ahead of it.
@@Nocredit11208is that the movie where naked girls are forced to eat poop off the floor?? 💩
"as if they were toy models"
"man in a dinosaur suit"
"tacky puppet show"
Not surprised at all, critics have shat on and dismissed Kaiju movies for decades, all they see is "cheap cheesy rubber suits and toy cars" but don't bother to clean the trash out of their brains and realise that these movies were FAR from "cheap" with gorgeous sets, brilliant sound design and highly detailed suits and miniature models made with such refined craft and care, Eiji Tsuburaya was one of the greatest special effects artists to ever live (p.s a movie with a smaller budget doesn't automatically mean "bad" or "cheap" effects). It makes me sad and angry this outdated and outright incorrect notion is still a thing, with critics and actual fans :(
But the original King Kong WAS a puppet running around toy miniature sets!
They don't appreciate or understand craftsmanship
@@Collector261 Because according to these kinds of writers, stop motion is a lot of tedious and difficult work that requires a good eye and a deep understanding of kinesthetics. A rubber suit monster just needs a guy to stumble around on a set.
But here comes modernity to accuse them of being racist on top of it which is just polarizing. You could critique a lot of King Kong's special effects too, sure, it must be windy on Skull Island the way his fur is constantly whipping around. But it is clear they just like stop motion more than suits, and there was western suitmation it just gets dismissed for the same reasons by critics.
I have known people that hate anime and love western animation, but showed them Akira and they still loved it. It is just the style and the tropes they dislike and Akira minimizes those.
If they go out their way to include Godzilla in a list of the best horror movies, why don't they actually discuss its actual merits as a horror movie?
The Million Dollar Question.
@@Collector261 The Godzilla scene in the hospital just gives chills and sadness
Have you ever read screen rant's "Top ten monsters more powerful then Godzilla" Article?
Oh Good God(zilla)! Not That Again!
"The Blob"
“The alien from _Alien_ “
@@Daikaijudethedude "worms from Tremors"
@@Tenebrio-Morio”kumonga from son of Godzilla”
"Skin like Shag Carpeting" Your skin would look like that too if you got hit by an H bomb.
whats even worse is the skin texture of Godzilla is based off the victims of the atomic bombs and them saying that just feels disrespectful
"Skin like shag carpeting ... that's because it was.
Qui-Gon: "Just because you can speak, that doesn't mean you're intelligent."
Honestly, what else would I expect? Critics are often full of it. Remember when John Carpenter's The Thing was considered trash? Critics were wrong then and they're wrong now. Critic reviews, awards. None of it matters that much. It's all self promotion. Often concerned with industry politics of the day and not often on merit. I've come to learn that it's best to see for yourself and come to your own conclusions.
As someone who doesn’t care whether or not you prefer King Kong over Goji, this is borderline hypocrisy on a spectacular level.
I remember back in 1998 when Tristar released their fiasco that they called “Godzilla” , the newspapers gave it very favorable reviews and ratings, talking about it only in terms of its special effects and Howe much “better” it was than the old original Japanese movie with its “Primitive” and “Outdated and fake looking” effects. Later when the Tristar movie tanked, there was another article (It could have been by the same writer) saying that reason that the Tristar Godzilla was such a failure was because people kept thinking about how “terrible and unbelievable” the old original movie was with it’s special effects.
Like gee, it couldn’t possibly be that the Tristar movie was a lousy movie for its own reasons, oh no! It HAS TO BE because of a SUPOSSED bad reputation of the original, in fact better movie.
You can’t fix Stupidity, especially Willful Stupidity .
@@Collector261heck it doesent entirely natter if the effects are great it matters if the movie is atleast better overall.
Went through the list.
Laughable.
I especially liked the shot of Lon Chaney in The Mummy's Tomb (1942) in place for the article on The Mummy (1932) which starred Boris Karloff.
So not only does Variety employ brainlets to do their writing, they employ them to do their research.
It also opens up the broader question on how little respect ALL fans of the fantasy genres are treated.
In future, hire people that LOVE horror to write and research your articles.
"Oh brother this article stinks!"
Wow that critic clearly hates godzilla, why even rank it
Gojira is way more unsettling than King Kong, especially when you consider it's actual implications and real life parallel. No disrespect to King Kong, great film. However, Gojira 1954 is the better horror film as it is quite literally based on real horror.
Especially since it’s more a horror film for Kong as he is kidnapped, taken from his home, then shot down when he just wants to be alone with a lady while humanity doesn’t learn a lesson, meanwhile godzilla is created from humanity’s mistakes and greed, appearing and destroying everything as humanities defenses can’t even do so much as make him blink, later to be killed by a super weapon and humanity learns that if they keep overusing nuclear weapons, another Godzilla will for sure appear and be even worse.
Case and point: Kong was trapped with the humans, while humans were trapped with Godzilla
@@Tabi-KunI mean - the final quote of King Kong implies that some sort of lesson was learned.
Otherwise, I think that’s a very interesting comparison between the original Kong and Godzilla. Are there other comparisons between the two characters?
@@williammorahan4907 I can’t really think of any rn. Also just so no confusion comes, at the start I meant the movie was more of horror in Kongs eyes since we humans were the monsters, while Godzilla was horror in humanities eyes as Godzilla was the unstoppable monster
@@Tabi-Kun what about the themes of the original King Kong vs Godzilla?
@@williammorahan4907 1962 King Kong vs Godzilla didn’t really have much meaning I think, Godzilla is downplayed to just be a destructive bully while Kong is promoted to a thunder god, hence why he has electricity powers and is immune to Godzillas atomic breathe
I wouldn't be surprised if that writer hasn't even watched Gojira tbh.
This also sort of morphs into the Tweets trashing Godzilla, Anime, and other media and praising the U.S. media.
@JurassicGojiFan1993 The article is raises.
I'm honestly surprised that they would rank Texas Chainsaw Massacre over The Exorcist and Psycho. Given how clueless these people are, I would've assumed that they'd view TCM as too "low brow".
Oh hello Otaking Nabeshin
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Hello OUS
The worst thing about this article is the fact that The Thing is not in 1st place tbh.
I prefer Annilhation(2018) to The Thing but I wont argue The Thing should be # 1.
The writer either has never seen the film before or watched the 56' American Dub
@@SwagZilla-m1e or they were just biased
@@SomethingZilla42 Exactly.
I guarantee you they never saw a kaiju movie. Their opinions stem from word of mouth by people 40+ years ago.
Even seeing the American dub shouldn't have done THAT much to make them dismiss it. There are definitely substantial reasons why it's the inferior version of the movie. But it doesn't make it any less horrifying.
I read the article the other day and there were sadly a lot of entries with this almost aura of distain. I remember the Halloween entry almost trying to suggest that it’s what Ebert called a “dead teenager movie” when the truth is that his positive review of it changed the tide for how critics looked at the movie. It felt like it was only included because it had to be rather than celebrating how great of a movie it is.
*eyeroll*
Kong ain't even a horror movie.
@billscarnage Exactly it's just big ape Makes you wonder if they're even watching the movies.😭😭
@@deathRoadmemes I'm not saying that it's a horror movie but your description of it is terrible.
Aye now let’s not stoop to there level
@@billscarnage The original King Kong has been considered a horror movie (or at least a monster movie) for many decades now. It would be more surprising if it wasn’t on there, really.
@@deathRoadmemestheir is so much more to Kong than just big ape
I agree with the lady calling it rage bait, that's basically all these outlets do. They intentionally anger the fans of certain properties because it gets more people looking at it, especially if they have a youtube channel.
We've seen this before with screenrants "10 movies monsters more powerful than godzilla article "
I made an entire video on stuff like this. I am genuinely concerned people will actually listen to things like doctor skipper and variety and force Godzilla into the same cage King Kong was: just the same movie again and again and again, simply because "that's the good one".
Both King Kong and Godzilla are amazing films and both deserve equal reverence.
I don't think I'd call this racist, but it is still rather patronizing and insulting.
Am I the only one that’s angry that Godzilla 54 still hasn’t been indoctrinated into the national film registry? It’s a very iconic movie that deserves to be there.
I think the national film registry is for domestically made films, I could be wrong though
Sadly they only put American/American co-productions. :(
@@NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan not so national now is it?
@@supershituttp7425National means country-wide. International means across multiple countries
You can tell the disingenuousness of the article by how they downplay the horror of the original Gojira by talking down about the suitmation, and the use of miniatures as a contracts to the nuclear horrors allegory Godzilla represents. Meanwhile, the original King Kong film, which arguably isn’t a real horror film, gets praised for its effects, creature design, and symbolism. I can forgive Gojira 1954 being lower on the list and someone having a lesser opinion of the film, but don’t just insult the clearly revolutionary work and deep meaning of the film which set a new trend in the film industry.
I said it elsewhere. Wasn’t King Kong a Puppet? Wasn’t that Puppet gorilla wandering around sets made up of Toy Minurtures?
@@Collector261 It was a combination of puppet, animatronic (for some scenes just showing a part of his body), and stop-motion animation.
Their criticism of Godzilla’s ‘kitsch’ special effects makes as much sense as them complaining about King Kong’s ‘jerky’ stop motion or Jurassic Park’s ‘plastic’ CGI, at that point you have to wonder if they’re complaining that Toho didn’t literally engineer a 50m kaiju to rampage and cause billions of yen in damage
Times have changed, I remember people mocking Kong for being silly, and criticizing the stop motion in contrast to the makeup effects of the universal monster films. I love toku and stop mo equally, and both have their strengths and weaknesses. But they are niche interests, and most people are just fair weather fans, so more often than few, they barely know what they're talking about vs serious fans
"Godzilla is great but mmmm he's a bit tacky"
The man in the suit would like. Have a word of you.
Sorry. don't mean to sound rude to the article and the people that made them and probably just doing their job so they can earn a decent pay, idk what they get paid.. but please don't dis Godzilla.
I shamelessly prefer King Kong, as a character, over Godzilla. But the denigration of Gojira and the power of the film’s themes, historical context, and lingering effect as a commentary of nuclear weaponry is appalling.
Variety is just a laughing stock at this point in time.
It seems like they didn’t watch the movie and just wrote what they heard about it from a friend who didn’t like the movie
It’s worse because there are some Godzilla fans, or kaiju fans in general, who act like this.
Imo there weren't a lot of those fans before the monsterverse movies were made. I don't blame these movies for it, as I like them too, but they did attract a lot of "lmao these older japanese trash movies look so cheesy haha" fans.
@@ZillaGame77or hell the oh soo insufferable "american Godzilla is worse than Japanese Godzilla because the former is too cheesy and superheroesque" fans that thinks they're Godzilla experts just because they binge watched the first three monsterverse movies and watched minus one
@@XD-sc4ix Exactly… now we have Minus One Snobs now. ):
@@XD-sc4ix One is attacking the concept of fun kaiju movies for no reason and the other is straight up disrespecting the hard work and craftsmanship of the older japanese movies.
@@ZillaGame77 Those fans were around at least as far back as 1998, if not earlier.
Here is another bad one:
In Listverse's ridicolous top 10 movie monsters all time, Mothra is place in number 5 because she isn't "too scary" compared to The Sharktopus (who is in number 10)
I know Mothra is not scary, but she isn't meant to.
I wish people would stop applying racism to everything. I agree that shitting on Godzilla like that is in poor taste but it's hardly racism to criticise movie effects, no matter how baseless and cringe inducing that criticism is.
I have no idea whether average westerners who aren't tokusatsu fans already can ever have any respect for the genre even after minus one?
What has happened to critics now
Siskel & Ebert died. No, I didn't always agree with them (nor did they agree with each other a lot of the time), but their reviews gave me an idea if I would like a movie or not. Sometimes they would praise a movie, but they described it with enough detail without spoiling the movie* that I would know that the movie they were praising was not one I would enjoy.
* An exception is that one of them did infamously spoil the twist in The Crying Game.
I recall hating Roger Ebert. Back when “Batman” , “Batman Returns”, and “Batman Forever” were released, Ebert gave them an each a failure, he said because “ The series is too dark! Batman is SUPPOSED TO BE LIGHT AND CAMPY, just like it was in the 1960’s TV series.” ( yes he actually brought up that series and insisted that is the correct way of doing Batman). Later when “Batman and Robin” came out, the fans considered it the weakest, least liked movie in the series at that time. But Ebert was ecstatic about it, saying that it was light hearted and campy, just like Batman was supposed to be!
As a rule I thumb, I would always assume that if Roger Ebert says a movie is bad, assume that it is in fact a very good movie. If Ebert says a movie is good, then assume that the film that Ebert likes is in fact terrible.
they have to appease the Machine ran by Liberals instead having an unbias apolitical view of things .
Backlash aside, the original Gojira and Kong aren't Horror movies. They had horror elements but I see them as Thrillers if anything. Also why is Texas Chainsaw Massacre first place? TCM is great but Evil Dead II is the GOAT
What is it with people nowadays disrespecting the big g’s name?
the godzilla bit against the kong side reads like a 1940s propaganda writer trying to minimize the massacre the US did to two cities full of almost exclusively innocent citizens. its disgusting.
yeah how dare they disrespect my boy yeah King Kong and Godzilla should've been ranked right with each other.
*Proceeds to bash head on the wall on how fucked this 'Article' on Godzilla is...*
i havent seen King Kong. is there anything close to "we´ll be with your father again", the sayonara broadcast, the train scene, the little kids moms corpse being carried away while they cry, or the boy seeing the house with his family inside getting stomped?
I absolutely wish that that the American studio had put in subtitles in the US release of what those Japanese people were saying. I suppose they didn’t want to upset all those former B29 crews.
(Hey American “heroes “, what did you think was happening to those civilians on the ground were you were dropping those nukes and firebombs !!?? Also while I’m at it, just how many Revenges For Pearl Harbor were we supposed to enact ; especially out upon the civilian population !!??)
@@Collector261 damn, they didnt dub or sub the people? thats honestly pretty evil considering what that film is about.
thats why i never watch dubs or western re-edits
@@Collector261 the Atomic Bombings were not Revenge for Pearl Harbor, they were to end the War Quickly and Make Japan Surrender Unconditionally
We got revenge for Pearl Harbor with Doolittle's Raid in 1941
Had Turman not signed the Order to use the Atom Bombs, we would have been forced to fight a Protracted Naval Invasion of the Home Islands and that would have been a Slaughter for the Japanese as they(Military and Civilian Personal) were going to fight to the Death for their Emperor
What are you even arguing? They’re both horror films, and yes, the original King Kong has disturbing moments like Godzilla. Stop the bs.
@@CrispyTarantula im not arguing? i was literally asking a question?
Godzilla (1954) has a scary design and it is my favorite
I don’t think the writer is racist, rather they’re just bias towards Godzilla movies, probably from the decades of western media making fun of the effects in Godzilla movies.
>Salò is on the list at all
This list is automatically worthless
Both films are incredible and both deserve unlimited high praise. Though, if I had to choose between the two, I'd go for King Kong, merely because I love Skull Island's jungle atmosphere and intense creature scenes, along with the theme of man and nature colliding with each other and how each species would react. But when it comes to the titular monsters themselves, I mostly prefer Godzilla. My favourite version of him is from GMK.
This is just bull crap I am sick and tired of people doing Godzilla dirty while they are prayzing for Long This needs to and
The original kong isn’t a horror movie??? Why is it on the list of horror?
It is horror, ignorant child.
I wish I had added the question mark to my comment on the post, but at least I didn't now.
Why are articles allowed to cook at all and why do I feel this has IGN written all over it
Cause it is
@timmyhaymore7125 😂😂😂😂 Wait really
@@andrebrown9580 cause ign are Biased against anything that fans like
Ngl the scariest godzilla movie is Godzilla vs hedorah
Godzilla's revenge
That movie is ass
Let them speak what they want. I appreciate this movie a lot, and nobody is going to change my mind about that. And I love King Kong too, of course.
I agree Godzilla 1954 is a great horror movie but, I has to much love and I think it doswnt need that much love compared to Godzilla vs Destoroyah because that’s my favorite Godzilla movie.
I think caseoh wrote the article since he likes kong and hates godzilla😅(note this is just a joke, obviously caseoh din’t right the article)
Bro hates himself
Friendly fire will not be tolerated
@@DraconicMasterBro, what do you mean😅?
@@zillafire101Bro, what do you mean😅?
@@viktoranngelovelasco9091Caseoh is the size of Godzilla
W shirt. W video.
Godzilla it's not actually a metaphor for Japan suffered in world war II it's meant to represent the Lucky dragon number 5 incident where a nuclear fish boat near the bikini atoll the boat is Honorable and you can go in Tokyo and you can touch the lucky dragon and see it
it's both
This article is so bad I think the Nostalgia Critic wrote it.
That's an insult to the nostalgia critic.
Even nostalgia critic wouldn’t do this
The thing is that the Nostaliga Critic is a character/persona created by Doug Walker to entertain people. The “critic” that made this ranking wants to be taken seriously.
No. No lmfao. I think he's old enough at this point to know a tiny bit of the big dinosaurs history. This article is DOWN in the trenches bro
"An apocalyptic puppet show" the way they wrote this review for Gojira is an insult to Honda's, Tanaka's, and especially Tsuburaya's legacy. It seems that Westerners are still to this day dismissive of Tokusatsu (I hate to sound racist towards Westerners but I'm sorry it's true) while they over praise O Briens original King Kong which I understand that movie itself is a masterpiece, but Eiji Tsuburaya broke new grounds with Godzilla in his own way as no creature suit at the time that resembled a dinosaur looked anywhere near as good as the shodaigoji suit. Without Tsuburaya Tokusatsu like Godzilla and Ultraman would never be the same and it's a shame people treat the best of his work like this.
Cole was only 13 when shin godzilla was in US Theaters? I was 17 at that time. I'm getting old.
I don't want to make a blanket statement about critics because I have seen some pretty tame critic reviews that basically match audience reception, and people tend to ignore those over the ones that are egregiously out of touch.
But I DO think there's a substantiated claim to made that SOME critics are basically falling into groupthink and contrarianism.
I heard a movie critic once describe how he left the big company he was hired onto basically because they all had the same opinions about how the stuff people enjoy is lowbrow garbage while movies with "real" artistic merit were the only ones work even watching the whole way through. An ivory tower echo chamber where Citizen Cane and Gone with the Wind are the only things held any kind of high regard. I think this is probably a similar situation, where they're more inclined to give genre fiction a chance but only under the auspices of what is art and what is not as decided by stuffy old people.
This probably almost matches that one RUclipsr who everyone was tearing apart for the video he made on Godzilla. What was his name again...?
Blue checkmark certainly helps leaving a more thought up opinion. But myself and others quoted in the video and many more other fans had quite an interesting discussion about how Japanese effects films are porrayed. It's hard to really excuse showing such ignorance today because everyone knows any pre-digital effects are dated but there's some respect given to one that isn't given to others and the causes of why tokusatsu had and sometimes still has bad reputation even when Japan was the leading voice in the effects films don't excuse that.
of course it's the standard overused "muh racism" and whatever again. Movie and game critics working for official publications are all utter trash and should be ignored at all times.
I feel like everyone's just enraged that king Kong got ranked higher even if the article described Godzilla badly lol
Variety's treatment of Godzilla is almost as terrible as your pronunciation of the word nuclear.
I’m watching Godzilla Trailers on LaserDisc 💿
I as a fan of both (King Kong more so) I believe the reason they think (or one of) Godzilla seems tacky and b movie ish is probably because they think the stop motion and miniatures are better ( i also think stop motion is superior in my personal taste ) suitmation is used in plenty of b movies and kid stuff they put some lines together in thier head and lets not forget the article was probably worked on by more than one person and the rankings clearly show they prefer King Kong in the first place although they are to be held accountable for their biased and ignorant reviews
Who decides to hate on creatures of fiction?
"So lets' talk about this Variety article..." Oh, say no more. Variety. Of course it's sh*t. But that said, I can't shake the feeling that y'all just pissed they ranked Kong higher 😆 Contrary to what dude said about how they would never say this about Kong, I'm surprised they DIDN'T accuse Kong of being racist and problematic. That's usually what happens.
I agree. I've actually seen people do this!
They say "Kong clearly represents black men, and his abduction of Anne Darrow represents white people's fears of black men being romantic with white women!"
Because when THEY look at a gorilla it makes them think of black people, they just ASSUME everyone is racist like they are. And their racism is the filmmakers' fault somehow.
i agree
Was the comments inconsistent? Yes. Was it demeaning, disrespectful, or even r@sist? Certainly not. Everyone is welcome to their own opinion
I don’t know If I’d call this racism. I get why you would, I just think this might be something slightly different. Because if a Japanese-American made a movie, it probably wouldn’t get treated like a Japanese film. I think this is…Nationalism? Foreign movies tend to get downplayed. ‘If it’s not Hollywood, it’s shit’. That’s where this comes from. There may also be a timeframe issue. King Kong is 22 years older, which probably adds to the predjudice.
I hope them dont say ball shit about alien the 8° passenger!!
Well you can tell this article has its biases.
"A tacky ingenious atomic puppet show?" What does that make a movie like the Avengers an overblown heroic green screened video game? The people wrote this article are full of it.📌😑☢️🐸📺 🤯🦸♂️🟩🎮
The article is written by Variety. It's automatically absurd and nonsensical.
The first film is a horror film
Crud fell off
I can’t believe all the ignorance coming from these young Godzilla fans in the comments trying to disrespect the original King Kong. To say that Godzilla is a horror film, and King Kong isn’t is crazy. Y’all definitely haven’t seen the movie, and it shows.
King Kong isn't nor was it ever scary. Shocking at the time of release but that's not the same as a horror movie.
@@MazinGo-1972 Yes, it is. The original King Kong is rightfully labeled as a classic horror film alongside the other greats like, Wolfman, Frankenstein, and Dracula. So is Godzilla. Both are classic horror films. Just because there’s action, and adventure doesn’t make it any less horror. If you look it up right now, it’s labeled as “horror/adventure” which is accurate. Not sure why y’all are so combative about this.
@@MazinGo-1972 Also, the lost Spider Pitt Sequence that was later cut was shown at a test screening, and the audience were so terrified that they decided to axe the scene.
Like I said, I love both but downplaying Godzilla as if it's irrelevant is also crazy. Though Kongs special effects are more interesting.
@@ConThatTokuBoy I never downplayed Godzilla. Like I said, both are horror classics.
The Incredible Shrinking Man?
Really?
Invasion of the Body Snatchers?
Really?
Why not add Forbidden Planet (the horrors of the Id)?
The Blob?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why isn't the original The Thing From Another World (1951) which is ostensibly closer to horror than SF than the remake, on this list?
I don't think these "writers" know a f________g thing about fantasy genres in film.
At all.
If they had brains (which they don't) they would at the very least had Taxi Driver (1976) in the top ten.
We know why they couldn't include DePalma's masterful Dressed To Kill or Sisters, don't we?
Wages of Fear?
I mean... their number one pick for horror movies is Texas chainsaw massacre. What more can one say?
NU-CLEE-AR, not nucular
Sorry pet peeve
Original King Kong was a masterpiece in special effects and broke a LOT, and I mean a LOT, of new ground in cinema making. That’s a fact. Godzilla was great, but nowhere near groundbreaking as 1933 Kong. Live with it and accept it
@@Uselessmouth12 then why even include the damn movie it's not even seen as effective on any level.
Godzilla’s legacy is much bigger than Kong’s, so I wouldn’t say it failed to be as groundbreaking
@@bulb9970Godzilla having more movies does NOT mean he has a bigger legacy. So many filmmakers went into film at all because of King Kong. I can’t say the same for Godzilla
Bad article but how is it racist
Maaaan I don't give a fuck.
Wildly unnecessary video. And feeling the need to give weight to twitter comments is absurd.
I smell bias with this article. Also the original King Kong is not a horror film. It does have some elements of horror but it’s mostly a fantasy adventure film. Gojira on the other hand is way more horror based. It treats its plot seriously while showing us the devastation that the humans go through as Godzilla is attacking Tokyo. While I do love the original King Kong, I prefer the original Godzilla film more in my opinion. Besides King Kong is a classic masterpiece of a film but it’s more of a retelling of Beauty and the Beast while Godzilla is more about nature taking its revenge on mankind for their arrogance and the dangers of atomic weapons. Whoever wrote this article clearly did not watch the movie or didn’t even bother to do research.
I smell bias with this comment, because the original King Kong is undoubtedly a horror film. What is wrong with you people?
You could maybe debate that Godzilla is a horror movie (especially Godzilla vs. Hedorah good god) but King Kong? Now I know these guys don't actually know what they are talking about
With regards to the reaction to the variety article; over analyzing and knee jerking at its best.
Then call the movie garbage and don't bother giving it faint praise then.
Oh great! Another bunch of high brow critics bashing one film, while calling another one great! Meanwhile, Godzilla is on the Criterion collection! Whers King Kong?!??!?
Oh, I forgot, who's got the Academy Award for best special effects?
King Kong was among the first movies to be put on the Criterion Collection back in 1984, and two Kong movies got Academy Awards for special effects (among other Academy Awards that Kong films have won).
No means of disrespect intended on my part. I'm just saying that King Kong(33 version) is always on a pedestal with these high brow critics. It will always be a great movie.
But , to put down Gojira as a puppet? It's an insult!
@@ONEFATE9 And yet, here you are, trying to put King Kong down to make Godzilla look better. Ironic.
@@CrispyTarantula Once again, no disrespect
So it's the worst article ever because in their personal opinion they thought King Kong 1933 was better than Godzilla 1954? that's it? with the way you babies are describing it you would've thought they wrote a story on how they flew to japan and took a piss on the graves of the Nagasaki victims.
No, that's not what they said. I would also rank the original King Kong higher than the original Godzilla, but Variety was disdainful towards Godzilla. If that's how they feel about Godzilla, why is it even on their list of "Best Horror Movies" in the first place?
I agree SOO much. sure they did rank Godzilla kinda bad but I guarantee everyone's just mad because king Kong was ranked higher lol. I bet if it was the other way around nobody would be mad
Why are either of these films, King Kong or Godzilla, in a list about horror films?
Neither is horror.
King Kong is a fantasy adventure and Godzilla is Science Fiction.
Although both have horrific elements, neither is a horror film.
I disagree, when the movies were originally released they were considered horror movies. I know that our modern sensibilities don’t view them as particularly scary but I don’t think that changes anything.
@@TheDrpretorious Neither were referred to as horror films or, case in point, ARE horror films.
Both are monster movies. In King Kong's case, it was referred to as a romantic thriller.
Gojira is a kaiju or daikaiju movie.
Neither is Jaws a horror film.
If post modernist dip💩💩💩💩💩like the "writers" at Variety want to subvert the definition of "horror", better to stick to top 25-50 movies rather than throwing in SF classics like The Incredible Shrinking Man or Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Why not throw in Forbidden Planet (the horror of the Id) etc.
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@@TheDrpretorious You're wrong.
Neither is horror. Neither is Jaws.
Neither is Invasion of the Body Snatchers (both versions) or The Incredible Shrinking Man or The Blob.
Lazy research. Lazy definition. Lazy writing.
Period.
Over 100,000 actual HORROR films made in over 100 years and this is the list?
@@joemadden4160 I mean I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree but I’d say most of those movies fit the definition of a horror for me.
I agree some have a strong science fiction element, but you can have sci-fi horror.
And again, you can make the argument that they’re not scary and therefore not horror, but what’s scary is subjective. Heck, if we’re going on that basis I’d say there’s very few horror movies in my opinion because very few movies do I find legitimately frightening.
Godzilla is a sci-fi horror
It's not that insulting
Sorry - I'm a 59 year old Godzilla fan (and Horror guru) and I agree with the Variety article. Godzilla was and still is in many ways, just a puppet and a Man in a suit, stomping on poorly made model miniatures. And as far as the Nuclear element is concerned, it was done many times before Godzilla. You also have to remember that Japan tried its own King Kongs after (King Kong), long before Godzilla came along. Those films were lost ... though they did exploit the effects and giant monster demands of cinema - to which Godzilla was based on - so Godzilla wasn't all that inventive or ":groundbreaking". Also (you) used a pic of Mighty Joe Young for Kong.
You can't be a real person.
King Kong is not a fucking horror movie yeah the beast is frightening in the beginning but that’s not the main focus also Texas is incredible but come on their is no #1 for it def top 10 tho there are just better horror films. Shrinking man not horror sci fi with disturbing elements. Planet terror is supposed to be shit and having motherfucking repulsion all the way down at 100 is disgraceful. Jaws thriller not horror. No mention of nope. Out of all the Eli Roth movies they choose hostel 2. List is genuinely AI generated
King Kong is a horror film.
Variety was absolutely unfair in this assessment of Godzilla. Their article was racist and disgusting and should be retracted.
Dude Gojira is HORRIFYING, and In my opinion, the Scariest version of Godzilla imo Kong is a great film, but Gojira deserves respect!
This is just racist. Like stopmotion ape on a pretty set tower: Great! Big monster destroying beautiful Tokyo set: "tacky puppet show"
I’m starting to think that this article is racist
Wait, Godzilla and King Kong are horror movies?😅