not that killed him do anything because he just gonna revive anyway, then same with Joker, even if Batman really kill him, there is a chance he not really dead and just reappear, plotting thing behind his back. At least if Joker broke out of jail, Batman will know and search for him.
Why do I feel like either the Green Goblin is the amalgamation of lex Luther and Joker Or Lex Luther and the Joker are the split up version of the green goblin
I feel like the Green Goblin is more Professor Zoom/Reverse Flash than Joker. I totally agree with the Luthor part though, and that combination is terrifying.
Fun Fact: Before Spider-Man got MJ pregnant, he made sure it wouldn't put MJ or the baby in any danger because of his radioactive blood. Beast from the X-men gave him the go ahead and assured him everything would be alright.
Joseph Scaduto how can he with green goblin as green goblin's aim was to destroy New York.How can Spidey accept his proposal of killing people of New York.
I consider Green Goblin, Doc Ock, and Venom (sometimes) all as Spider-Man's arch nemesis. I'd say Carnage but he's on a different level that is hard to define.
Carnage isn't really a nemesis because he doesn't care enough about Peter. He's just some random murderous lunatic who got lucky and got attached to Venom's baby symbiote. What make Goblin, Ock, and Venom great are their individual obsessions with Spider-Man; as the hero or guy underneath. And, they've just done way worse and crazy stuff to Peter whereas Carnage just... tries to kill him.
Flowey the Flowey Good point. I agree with you. Also he's almost always the subjects of his own series rather than frequently appearing in the Spider-Man titles and frequently combats Venom as well. Hence why I said he's hard to define.
It feels obvious to me that Green Goblin is Spidermans arch nemesis and his biggest and most important enemy but Venom gets more attention only because he looks cool and Doctor Octopus is more famous among people that dont care about superheros.
Most people are torn as to who Spidey's true archnemesis is: Green Goblin, Doc Ock, or Venom. It's clear who it is: Norman Osborn the great Green Goblin himself and it's because although it started as a conflict between their alter egos, it spilled over to both men's personal lives once they discovered each other's identities and turned into actual bad blood between the two. Even Norman himself, in Spider-Man's Tangled Web #13, admitted that he doesn't normally see the regular banter Spider-Man dishes out to his other enemies due to his hatred for him. The Goblin is the one nemesis that for Spidey, it's always personal no matter what. Peter feels completely obligated to kick Norman's ass no matter how you look at it because Norman has hurt him in more ways than one with acts such as Gwen's death, poisoning Harry's life with the Goblin legacy which in turn deteriorated his friendship with Peter and traumatized his wife Liz and son Normie, the entire Clone Saga, faking Aunt May's death, or even torturing him to make him accept the darkness and shatter his will. Neither Doc Ock nor Venom have hurt Spider-Man in the ways the Green Goblin has. Sure Venom knew his identity and his weaknesses but he never physically harmed Peter's loved ones as he deemed them innocent but he did use them as a way to simply get into Spider-Man's head. With Doc Ock the conflict has always been with Spider-Man not Peter Parker. Octavius was famous for his victory over Spidey during their first encounter, the formation of the Sinister Six, the Master Planner saga, his almost marriage to Aunt May, and most importantly, his swapping minds with Peter to become the Superior Spider-Man but if you ask me him stealing Peter's life was the only thing he's done that was truly personal in any way. No matter what, Norman Osborn will always be Spider-Man's archenemy. He's had insights into Parker that other's didn't and in a way sort of NEEDS Parker to be relevant (if you don't believe me, read the final pages of Marvel Knights: Spider-Man #12).
Venom ain’t even close to spidey’s arch nemesis. If people have the substance to look past the cool design, venom is honestly one of the lesser spidey villains.
I took a bet that Death of Gwen was number 1. But when it was 2nd, I was like "What da hell would be number one worst thing Goblin did?" Then I got reminded of something I forced myself to forget!
Bill Ly Whenever I see Gwen is dead on hands of Peter and goblin is up on the bridge of New york. It made me mad and think about killing goblin by peter over again.
There was some people saying that "oh everyone hates it cause it's different" which is just a dumb argument cause comic fans are mostly open to tweaks & changes. When it turns out to be absolute shit though, we tend not to like it.
Interesting comments thread, but the likely reason it was above baby killing in secret probably had to do with basically having Spider Man kill someone he loved in a freak accident- but I'm sure if he'd made Spider Man accidently kill his own infant child, that'd easily earn a higher spot
Agreed. To be honest I always though this was Norman's most heinous thing he did to Peter. And to know he did that the same night he came back from the dead, revealed himself to be behind the Clone Saga, _and_ killing Ben Reilly? That just made it worse. Killing Gwen was pretty was pretty bad, and but killing Mayday (the baby'name) is what settled Norman as the Worst , in my opinion.
The last time Gabriel Stacy appeared in a comic was back in 2011 or 2012.. Nor has he been mentioned since. While the twins didn't stop existing with the One More Day arc, they have since been shuffled out of existance (mostly by omission of mention, but also through the universe altering events).
1701Emperor Let's hope it stays that way. The last Secret Wars certainly could be used to get rid of that mistake...and it was never mentioned during the Dead No More: The Clone Conspiracy series...could it really be gone at last? ...they better not just pop up in "Renew Your Vows"...
Nayem Rahman That's debatable, now more than ever. Peter and Otto are a lot alike. Geniuses since childhood. Bullied. The difference was in their father figure. Uncle Ben supported Peter while Otto's father beat him. They both had an accident, forever changing them due to radioactivity. It was interesting to have it all pointed out.
I am surprised that nobody has ever done anything with that Norman kidnaps Spider-Man's baby thing. I know they want us to think she's dead but this is comics, so for all we know she got dumped in some orphanage in Europe. Though because Marvel insists on keeping Peter as a pathetic man-child with no character growth it's probably an editorial thing.
The original script for the clone arc where pete retires and has a kid while ben riley takes over was such a great idea, i really liked ben, shame they had to dig him up and assassinate his character
I took a bet that Death of Gwen Stacy would be number 1. When that was number 2, I was like "Wait what, was there something much worse than killing the super hero's girlfriend! And then, they f**king reminded me of something I forced myself to forget!
Green Goblin is the archenemy of Peter Parker. (No one has fucked with his personal life more) Doc Ock is the archenemy of Spider-Man. Venom is the antithesis of Spider-Man. Hope I cleared this up.
Genesis David Your question made me think about the morality of going back in time and murdering baby hitler. Do you think a baby would be super happy or miserable for the first two years of it's life?
@@Klausinator451 I would not kill Hitler as a baby. I'd take him from his miserable home and put him with a nice set of parents. Or whip his abusive father into shape.
Half of the entries on this list could also be placed on a "Top 10 Worst Things Marvel Has Done To The Spider-Man Canon" list. Bringing Aunt May back from the dead is my least favourite moment by far. The issue where she passed away was perfect, and they had to go and ruin it.
Sins Past maybe cannon officially, but it ain't cannon for me personally when I look back at Spider-Man's history and stories. It was a complete crap story, and personally I believe her character would never cheat on Peter, ever, especially with Osborne. Hell, she loved Peter completely and they never slept together, then Osborne shows up and she instantly gets into bed with him, someone she barely knew at best. Bad story writing, s******* on a classic character who should have been left well alone. That story should be announced as none cannon, it would please a lot of comic fans.
Hiring an actress to pose as Aunt May and infusing her with May's DNA was just about the stupidest explanation the writers could come up with to bring her back. A clone would have actually made more sense. Amazing 400 and One More Day were both cases where May should have passed and Peter should have been able to move on with his life. For some reason though, Marvel can kill off other iconic characters but they just can't let the old coo die.
Do you remember when Norman travelled back in time when Peter hadn't been bitten yet by the spider and "befriended"him under the persona of Skip Wescott?
Number 6 should be number 1. Anyone with kids would agree. Killing an old girl friend is easily number 2, but the death of a child is the worst pain anyone can feel.
i really wish they would give us a comic were gobin or someone like kraven goes to far one day and peter snaps and doesn't hold back wnd we can finally see how dangerous peter truly is when he isn't constantly holding back like what we got in the animated spiderman series when Kraven supposedly kills Mary Jane and Peter nearly hanga him with his Webbing and hes shouting "I'm going to rip you apart Kraven" seriously Marvel Spiderman is borig when you constantly have him be a goody two shoes
mikey kean There actually is a comic like this. I'm not completely sure, but I think it happens at the end of a story arc called The Gauntlet (the name's the part I'm not sure of), but I know it happens a year or 2 before Doc Oc puts his brain in Spidey's body. The Gauntlet story is essentially Kravens family kidnaps Madame Web and forces her (through torture) to use her powers of future sight to help them fuck up Spidey's life. The leads to them secretly manipulating a bunch of events that make a bunch of his villains more dangerous, such as them kidnapping Kurt Konners' son and allowing The Lizard to kill him which results in Konners snapping and The Lizard taking permanent control of his body. After doing this for months, Kraven's family starts attacking a number of other spider themed heroes including one of the spider women, and Kaine Parker, who was another clone of Spider-Man, except he was a killer and a selfish dick most of the time. When Kraven's family goes after Spidey himself with the help of a number of other villains like Chameleon and Mysterio, with the intent to use him as a human sacrifice in a magic ritual to bring Kraven back from the dead after he killed himself, Kaine knocks him out and takes his place, allowing himself to be sacrificed in Spidey's place. After Kraven comes back and finds out that the Spidey they killed was an imposter, he leaves Kaine's body where Spidey will find it when he comes after him. After seeing Kaine's body, and realising that the first unselfish thing Kaine ever did in his life lead to his death, and knowing that it was for his sake, Spidey snapped and went after Kravens family in a fit of pure rage. He fought both of Kraven's son's, one of which had been turned into some kind of lion monster, and seriously wounded Kraven's wife by using his wall sticking ability to basically tear off a part of her face. While these fights are happening, Kraven actually says that Spider-Man is being so much more aggressive and violent, he's acting more like an animal than a person. When he fought Kraven himself, he overwhelmed him, got a hold of his spear and was about to kill him. The only reason he didn't is because Madame Web passed her powers to the previously mentioned Spider Woman before dying and that Spider Woman used her new powers to show Spider-Man what kind of person he would become if he killed Kraven. The comic actually shows a few pictures of that future, such as Spidey killing Doc Oc, getting kicked out of The Avengers, and beating up Harry Osborn as Peter Parker. The story ends with Spidey backing down and letting Kraven go and Kraven taking his family to The Savage Land to get ready for the next time they face Spider-Man.
Flash: Wears red, sometimes wants to kill his enemies. Spider-Man: Wears red, sometimes wants to kill his enemies. Iris West: Is a news reporter. Mary Jane: Is a news reporter. Wally West: Both names start with w, is black and is a kid version of the Flash. Miles Morales: Both names start with w, is black and a kid version of Spider-Man. See how much they have in common?
Green Goblin is a perfect combimation of Joker and Batman -He has a double life of a Rich Buisness man and a Vigilante -He laughs manically and wears green and purple -He uses his company’s tech for his costume and gadgets -He has messed up plans and damages characters mentally
That is why modern Marvel comics suck. They are always bringing characters that were dead and buried back to life. It is as if this new comic writers just can't deal with death. Hell, the Green Goblin had an epic death, but then, 20 years later, a bunch of idiots thought '' Hm, lets bring him back to life with a lame explanation''. And not only that. They also thought '' Hm, I've always fantasized about the Green Goblin fucking Gwen Stacy. Let's put that in a comic too!''.
Hello hi exactly I don’t get how annoying fans still love him I mean no one complains about this but complain about OMD. I blame marvel editorial and fanboys for the revival of Osborn ever since #6 I’ve despised him with a passion as a character from then on
Aside from what was on the list, Norman rejecting his chance at redemption and willingly becoming the Green Goblin is indeed where he’s reached the point beyond redemption. Norman truly became the Goblin at that moment.
except that Venom #1: Killed Spider-man #2: Knew his identity from the start, because the symbiote was attratched to spider-man #3: has consistently targeted Spider-man's friends and family #4: has nearly killed Mary Jane 3 times #5: even Possessing Mary Jane and turning her into a wicked monster known as "She-Venom"
in several comics he has, mind you they are older comics. including one where Venom killed Spider-man on a tropical island by throwing a flaming truck on him which exploded and incinerated the weak spider. Venom went to check the scene after the flames died down to find a crumpled burnt suit and the ash-covered bones of peter parker within that very suit
the green goblin would literally steal spider-mans credit card then help him get it back only to reveal that he had it with him the whole time norman is straight up petty as hell
kylehasstyle138 Ultimate Green Goblin was a joke. Completely delusional. Not to mention his origin is stupid. How does being injected with Oz infused with his own DNA turn him into a fire producing green scaly monster? Spider infused Oz gave Peter spider-like speed, strength, and agility...it did not make him into a giant spider creature.
I heard that when it comes to Ultimate (comics not show, completely different despite name) The spider that bit Peter was a spider from Oscorp, Osborne knows about it and claims that said event was what he calls a 'fluke' and that he could do better than that and creates the Oz Formula but.. He becomes a hulking pyrokinetic monster who suffers from nightmarish hallucinations taunting him about Parker being better than him or something. Overall I've always considered Goblin to be the best Spider-Man villain, possibly in the top 5 for Marvel villains altogether
This could of been 10 Reasons Why to Stop Villains form Learning your Secret Identity. Almost none of these terrible things would of happened if he had prevented him from learning his secret identity.
Then he sold their marriage to Mephisto to give Aunt May a little more time. After not only Aunt May but GOD told him to let her go and it'll all be OK.
My friend and I have had the discussion of what heroes can never sit and have a cup of tea with their arch nemesis, as in the arch nemesis went too far. For instance, Reed Richards and Dr. Doom can sit down for a cup of tea. Batman and Joker? No. Spider-man and Green Goblin definitely fall on that list. This could be a good Top 10 for you. Other heroes and arch nemesis' that could never get lunch together: Daredevil and Bullseye, Flash and Eobard Thawne (Reverse Flash), Captain America and Red Skull, Judge Dredd and Judge Death (not sure how that would work anyways), Aquaman and Black Manta...
Christopher Vorenkamp Oh, I don't know. Doom has done a lot to Reed, including making him kill Ben Grimm. It was either kill him or let Johnny die. The real issue is that Reed is just...too detached from life. He never seems to hold a grudge.
doctor octopus is Spiderman worst enemy, but green goblin is peter parker's worst enemy, now the reason for this is because doctor octopus has done worse things to Spiderman but green goblin has Spiderman's identity as peter and assaults him in a personal way.
You should do a "10 worst things Doc Ock has done to Spider-Man" video because I never even considered him to be on the same level as the Green Goober. I want to see how his acts stack up to see who Spidey's definitive nemesis is.
I honestly wonder why venom isn’t spidey’s arch enemy. Not only are they on par with eachother, but venom wants to dismantle spider-man peice by peice.
Sergei Kravinoff is the original, "Kraven the Hunter." Chameleon a.k.a. Dimitri Smerkyadov is his brother. Aloysha and Vladimir Kravinoff are his first 2 sons. Sasha Kravinoff is his wife. Ana Kravinoff is his daughter. Then he had a ton of clones of himself created and one of them survived and Kraven claimed him as his son. This son takes up the mantle of Kraven the Hunter when he accidentally kills his father when Kraven dresses as Spider-Man.
I freaked out for at 5:00 where Ben said 'Norman baits Spider-Man'. The first thing that came to mind was a 'What if' story where Norman Bates from Psycho & Bates Motel Fame becomes the wall-crawler... Now that's something I'd like to see.
Whole Wheat Potaterz | On top of that, this guy wants to know about superheroes he doesn't know but should. if you look up simply "Static" that won't get you anywhere. if you search "Static Shock", oh look, there he is.
He's an iconic villain, so I know they can't kill him off, but I would *really* like to see Pete just cut loose and kick the CRAP out of Norman Osborne. Just once. He killed Gwen, man.
alfa01spotivo how dare they constantly make a character repetitive and not let them die when they truly deserve it instead of glorifying murder of babies and villains prospering. Spider-Man should do to Osborn and that nurse who stole his baby what Joel did to those two bandits in the Last of Us. Piss off
number 6: killing a baby
number 3: unmasking spiderman
what?
Luke Krainer right XD?!?
I don t Think that s a TOP 10..more like a simple list
the unmasking of spidey resulted in the killing of a baby xD
Unmasking spiderman could indirectly kill many people, and if we are treating all human life the same, one outweighs the other.
It's not a top 10 list, it's just a list.
What Joker is to Batman is what Green Goblin is to Spider-Man.
Bandman Rob you see Spiderman is actually able to kill goblin and threatened to do it. Batman would let joker "win" by doing that
not that killed him do anything because he just gonna revive anyway, then same with Joker, even if Batman really kill him, there is a chance he not really dead and just reappear, plotting thing behind his back.
At least if Joker broke out of jail, Batman will know and search for him.
I agree. And Doc Ock is to Spider-Man as Hugo Strange is to Batman, and Venom is Spidey's Bane.
NiCKandVERONiCA I really agree with that.
Green goblin is basically joker and lex luthor mixed together
Norman is the perfect combination of Joker and Lex Luthor and it's terryfing.
Yoooo I was just thinking that the other day
Absolutely terrifying
Why do I feel like either
the Green Goblin is the amalgamation of lex Luther and Joker
Or Lex Luther and the Joker are the split up version of the green goblin
I feel like the Green Goblin is more Professor Zoom/Reverse Flash than Joker. I totally agree with the Luthor part though, and that combination is terrifying.
Shit
Fun Fact: Before Spider-Man got MJ pregnant, he made sure it wouldn't put MJ or the baby in any danger because of his radioactive blood. Beast from the X-men gave him the go ahead and assured him everything would be alright.
Really? Fascinating! Can you tell me where to find that information?
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I assume by reading the comic it was from.
A bunch of these are "Shitty decisions Marvel made that pissed everyone off"
Both titles work well for the video
WarlordSquerk
Ok
#ShittyDecisionsMarvelMadeThatPissedEveryoneOffForWankers
Green Goblin ain't that bad. He offered Spider-Man friendship and Spider-Man spat in his face.
Joseph Scaduto how can he with green goblin as green goblin's aim was to destroy New York.How can Spidey accept his proposal of killing people of New York.
Omg lol. The Raimi line
Nice reference.
Pratham kalbag r/wooooosh
"MJ and I are going to have one hell of a time!"
I consider Green Goblin, Doc Ock, and Venom (sometimes) all as Spider-Man's arch nemesis. I'd say Carnage but he's on a different level that is hard to define.
Carnage isn't really a nemesis because he doesn't care enough about Peter. He's just some random murderous lunatic who got lucky and got attached to Venom's baby symbiote.
What make Goblin, Ock, and Venom great are their individual obsessions with Spider-Man; as the hero or guy underneath. And, they've just done way worse and crazy stuff to Peter whereas Carnage just... tries to kill him.
Flowey the Flowey Good point. I agree with you. Also he's almost always the subjects of his own series rather than frequently appearing in the Spider-Man titles and frequently combats Venom as well. Hence why I said he's hard to define.
It feels obvious to me that Green Goblin is Spidermans arch nemesis and his biggest and most important enemy but Venom gets more attention only because he looks cool and Doctor Octopus is more famous among people that dont care about superheros.
I feel like Carnage is Venom's arch nemesis
CaptainMighty1 Carnage doesnt appear that much?
Most people are torn as to who Spidey's true archnemesis is: Green Goblin, Doc Ock, or Venom. It's clear who it is: Norman Osborn the great Green Goblin himself and it's because although it started as a conflict between their alter egos, it spilled over to both men's personal lives once they discovered each other's identities and turned into actual bad blood between the two. Even Norman himself, in Spider-Man's Tangled Web #13, admitted that he doesn't normally see the regular banter Spider-Man dishes out to his other enemies due to his hatred for him. The Goblin is the one nemesis that for Spidey, it's always personal no matter what. Peter feels completely obligated to kick Norman's ass no matter how you look at it because Norman has hurt him in more ways than one with acts such as Gwen's death, poisoning Harry's life with the Goblin legacy which in turn deteriorated his friendship with Peter and traumatized his wife Liz and son Normie, the entire Clone Saga, faking Aunt May's death, or even torturing him to make him accept the darkness and shatter his will. Neither Doc Ock nor Venom have hurt Spider-Man in the ways the Green Goblin has. Sure Venom knew his identity and his weaknesses but he never physically harmed Peter's loved ones as he deemed them innocent but he did use them as a way to simply get into Spider-Man's head. With Doc Ock the conflict has always been with Spider-Man not Peter Parker. Octavius was famous for his victory over Spidey during their first encounter, the formation of the Sinister Six, the Master Planner saga, his almost marriage to Aunt May, and most importantly, his swapping minds with Peter to become the Superior Spider-Man but if you ask me him stealing Peter's life was the only thing he's done that was truly personal in any way. No matter what, Norman Osborn will always be Spider-Man's archenemy. He's had insights into Parker that other's didn't and in a way sort of NEEDS Parker to be relevant (if you don't believe me, read the final pages of Marvel Knights: Spider-Man #12).
Venom ain’t even close to spidey’s arch nemesis. If people have the substance to look past the cool design, venom is honestly one of the lesser spidey villains.
@@pigeonboy7696 plus at this point he's spent more time as an anti hero then as a villain
Didnt he also bang gwen
@@ninjaman7123 yeah
When I see the death of Gwen is only 2nd, I knew immediately Sin Past is gonna be number 1... and I fckin hate that story.
Bill Ly we all do brother
I took a bet that Death of Gwen was number 1. But when it was 2nd, I was like "What da hell would be number one worst thing Goblin did?"
Then I got reminded of something I forced myself to forget!
movienaut I never read sin's past but now I know about it. which makes me want to suffer brain damage just to forget
Nobody likes that story not even the guy who wrote the twins liked those two.
Bill Ly
Whenever I see Gwen is dead on hands of Peter and goblin is up on the bridge of New york.
It made me mad and think about killing goblin by peter over again.
And I thought The Joker was a Psychopath...
Adrian Frauca He is. A much better witten and more interesting psychopath, I might add.
Look out! Its the amazing Joker Boner!
Toasty667 I know, right? How dare I like the original character more than one of Stan Lee's many DC ripoffs? The nerve!
Stan Lee may have ripped off DC's characters but he wrote them SO MUCH better than the originals.
Everyone calm down it's just another DC fanboy showing off his DC boner.. Carry on
We don't talk about Sins Past. Nope. Never happened...
Larry Wolf
was it really that bad?
Trayxxxx Y E S
I'm not a Gwen Stacy fan at all, (Mary Jane forever) but one thing no one ever needed to see was Osborne's O-face.
There was some people saying that "oh everyone hates it cause it's different" which is just a dumb argument cause comic fans are mostly open to tweaks & changes. When it turns out to be absolute shit though, we tend not to like it.
Larry Wolf well they didn't explain that in the amazing spider man 2
gwen stacy is sweet but not innocent I mean she had an affair with the green goblin
Ace Jones true
He raped her tho
So if my ex throw me off a huge building its okay? Aaaand more important: is it okay if I throw him of a huge building?
Which is why many fans try to consider that story non-canon, including myself.
Stfu, we don't talk about that
are we really sure that killing a teenage girlfriend is worse than killing a baby...a baby
Kaido of the 100 berries or it could become a homicidal maniac and kill only babies for his whole life
Kaido of the 100 berries that's not entirely true. We have the potential to do it too if you work for it.
Interesting comments thread, but the likely reason it was above baby killing in secret probably had to do with basically having Spider Man kill someone he loved in a freak accident- but I'm sure if he'd made Spider Man accidently kill his own infant child, that'd easily earn a higher spot
well it depends
Agreed. To be honest I always though this was Norman's most heinous thing he did to Peter. And to know he did that the same night he came back from the dead, revealed himself to be behind the Clone Saga, _and_ killing Ben Reilly? That just made it worse.
Killing Gwen was pretty was pretty bad, and but killing Mayday (the baby'name) is what settled Norman as the Worst , in my opinion.
"Mary Jane announced she was pregnant a few YEARS earlier"
....uh what?
The Vagabond About two decades ago now...
OwlThatDontGiveAShit : lol but the guy narrating said it wrong not me
From what I've read online, one year in the Marvel U passes every three or so years IRL.
Akhil COMIC BOOK LOGIC
The Vagabond vhcn
Do a top 10 Superhero franchises not owned by Marvel or DC list
Luca Dynamo A good idea? In a RUclips comment section!? What new illusion is this!?
lol true though
Luca Dynamo this... I want it
DoctorLazers I thank you, sir
Yes!!!
Sins past rule #1: You NEVER talk about Sins past, NEVAH!
and One More Day
I heard that he was car pooling with some other super villains and the Goblin farted so badly, that Dr Octopus refused to have him in the car again.
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Doc ock is spideys worst enemy
Green goblin is peters worst enemy
Ruffels Nah Thats Sony
the batbike wym
@Ruffels or zack snyder
Funk0PUNK Dock Oc doesnt seems worst than Osborn
What!!?? Guys Venom is spideys worst enemy.venom is petes worst enemy
Sins Past is luckily no longer considered canon..
Did they retcon it?
Yeah.. It all went out along with a bunch of other stuff, during the latest "soft reboot" of the Marvel universe...
1701Emperor You sure? Last I heard, Gabriel Stacy was still around...
The last time Gabriel Stacy appeared in a comic was back in 2011 or 2012.. Nor has he been mentioned since. While the twins didn't stop existing with the One More Day arc, they have since been shuffled out of existance (mostly by omission of mention, but also through the universe altering events).
1701Emperor Let's hope it stays that way. The last Secret Wars certainly could be used to get rid of that mistake...and it was never mentioned during the Dead No More: The Clone Conspiracy series...could it really be gone at last? ...they better not just pop up in "Renew Your Vows"...
Top 10 worst things the green goblin has ever done to spider man:
No.1: Stole pizza time
Doc Ock is spideys arch enemy ? :/
Err no. Green Goblin has always been spideys arch enemy, rival, opposite, whatever you wanna call it.
Nayem Rahman That's debatable, now more than ever. Peter and Otto are a lot alike. Geniuses since childhood. Bullied. The difference was in their father figure. Uncle Ben supported Peter while Otto's father beat him. They both had an accident, forever changing them due to radioactivity. It was interesting to have it all pointed out.
TheBlues32 mmmmmmm interesting didnt know some of the thing. Thanks for the info.
Nayem Rahman Neither did I. It was pointed out during the Superior Spider-Man storyline.
well Doc Ock even took over Peter's body and act like him for a time.
Shikni Ful Keep in mind, it was Goblin who made Ock give up being Spidey
I am surprised that nobody has ever done anything with that Norman kidnaps Spider-Man's baby thing. I know they want us to think she's dead but this is comics, so for all we know she got dumped in some orphanage in Europe. Though because Marvel insists on keeping Peter as a pathetic man-child with no character growth it's probably an editorial thing.
The original script for the clone arc where pete retires and has a kid while ben riley takes over was such a great idea, i really liked ben, shame they had to dig him up and assassinate his character
Can Doodle I wasn't reading Spider-Man during the Clone Saga but I recognize his potential.
I think they just want readers to forget about it. Or that subject is too heavy to deal with.
jihef03 maybe.
there is an elseworlds comic where she grows up to become Spider Girl, if you wanted to check that out- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Girl
I took a bet that Death of Gwen Stacy would be number 1. When that was number 2, I was like "Wait what, was there something much worse than killing the super hero's girlfriend!
And then, they f**king reminded me of something I forced myself to forget!
Green Goblin is the archenemy of Peter Parker. (No one has fucked with his personal life more)
Doc Ock is the archenemy of Spider-Man.
Venom is the antithesis of Spider-Man.
Hope I cleared this up.
"To spidey"
"4 your eyez only"
- J cole
When ever I hear the main theme song on this channel, I always sing king Ross's 'proving internet virgins wrong moment of the week'
Banes 101
lol
that song is so apart of whatcultures identity
same man
Green goblin is pretty much spider man's Joker
who kills a baby, I mean that's just the peak cruelty
Genesis David Your question made me think about the morality of going back in time and murdering baby hitler. Do you think a baby would be super happy or miserable for the first two years of it's life?
@@Klausinator451 I would not kill Hitler as a baby. I'd take him from his miserable home and put him with a nice set of parents. Or whip his abusive father into shape.
Kidnapping Peter's baby? What? Can someone who read the comic please explain how, wasn't Peter at the hopital when Mary Jane gave birth?
Tomdeblink He was delivering pizzas.
Dr Soap haha u r joking right?
Gamehaccer5 no, he probably was because he used to you know, *_P I Z Z A T I M E_*
Half of the entries on this list could also be placed on a "Top 10 Worst Things Marvel Has Done To The Spider-Man Canon" list.
Bringing Aunt May back from the dead is my least favourite moment by far. The issue where she passed away was perfect, and they had to go and ruin it.
Sins Past maybe cannon officially, but it ain't cannon for me personally when I look back at Spider-Man's history and stories. It was a complete crap story, and personally I believe her character would never cheat on Peter, ever, especially with Osborne. Hell, she loved Peter completely and they never slept together, then Osborne shows up and she instantly gets into bed with him, someone she barely knew at best. Bad story writing, s******* on a classic character who should have been left well alone. That story should be announced as none cannon, it would please a lot of comic fans.
Jon Arbuckle Ifkr.. What was Marvel thinking?
Sometimes I wonder how could Stan Lee allowed this decisions without his approval..
Same. Ignoring that bs story line is what i do too and i perfer Gwen over Mj especially Emma vs. Kirsten
Hiring an actress to pose as Aunt May and infusing her with May's DNA was just about the stupidest explanation the writers could come up with to bring her back. A clone would have actually made more sense. Amazing 400 and One More Day were both cases where May should have passed and Peter should have been able to move on with his life. For some reason though, Marvel can kill off other iconic characters but they just can't let the old coo die.
Well said
Jack Alan and they can’t let Osborn die either, reviving him was a big mistake tbh
Josh Alan ya what exactly was the problem with it just being baby May
Do you remember when Norman travelled back in time when Peter hadn't been bitten yet by the spider and "befriended"him under the persona of Skip Wescott?
what about actually killing peter in the ultimate universe.
It Was The Punisher Who Shot Spider Man By Mistake
Norman baits Spider Man...
Norman baits...
Green Goblin is Norman Bates confirmed
I'm glad there is a channel specifically for comics now
Number 6 should be number 1. Anyone with kids would agree. Killing an old girl friend is easily number 2, but the death of a child is the worst pain anyone can feel.
i really wish they would give us a comic were gobin or someone like kraven goes to far one day and peter snaps
and doesn't hold back wnd we can finally see how dangerous peter truly is when he isn't constantly holding back
like what we got in the animated spiderman series when Kraven supposedly kills Mary Jane and Peter nearly hanga him with his Webbing and hes shouting "I'm going to rip you apart Kraven"
seriously Marvel Spiderman is borig when you constantly have him be a goody two shoes
mikey kean So...the One More Day storyline where Aunt May gets shot?
TheBlues32 Peter never sold his marriage to the devil, what are you talking about?
mikey kean There actually is a comic like this. I'm not completely sure, but I think it happens at the end of a story arc called The Gauntlet (the name's the part I'm not sure of), but I know it happens a year or 2 before Doc Oc puts his brain in Spidey's body. The Gauntlet story is essentially Kravens family kidnaps Madame Web and forces her (through torture) to use her powers of future sight to help them fuck up Spidey's life. The leads to them secretly manipulating a bunch of events that make a bunch of his villains more dangerous, such as them kidnapping Kurt Konners' son and allowing The Lizard to kill him which results in Konners snapping and The Lizard taking permanent control of his body. After doing this for months, Kraven's family starts attacking a number of other spider themed heroes including one of the spider women, and Kaine Parker, who was another clone of Spider-Man, except he was a killer and a selfish dick most of the time. When Kraven's family goes after Spidey himself with the help of a number of other villains like Chameleon and Mysterio, with the intent to use him as a human sacrifice in a magic ritual to bring Kraven back from the dead after he killed himself, Kaine knocks him out and takes his place, allowing himself to be sacrificed in Spidey's place. After Kraven comes back and finds out that the Spidey they killed was an imposter, he leaves Kaine's body where Spidey will find it when he comes after him. After seeing Kaine's body, and realising that the first unselfish thing Kaine ever did in his life lead to his death, and knowing that it was for his sake, Spidey snapped and went after Kravens family in a fit of pure rage. He fought both of Kraven's son's, one of which had been turned into some kind of lion monster, and seriously wounded Kraven's wife by using his wall sticking ability to basically tear off a part of her face. While these fights are happening, Kraven actually says that Spider-Man is being so much more aggressive and violent, he's acting more like an animal than a person. When he fought Kraven himself, he overwhelmed him, got a hold of his spear and was about to kill him. The only reason he didn't is because Madame Web passed her powers to the previously mentioned Spider Woman before dying and that Spider Woman used her new powers to show Spider-Man what kind of person he would become if he killed Kraven. The comic actually shows a few pictures of that future, such as Spidey killing Doc Oc, getting kicked out of The Avengers, and beating up Harry Osborn as Peter Parker. The story ends with Spidey backing down and letting Kraven go and Kraven taking his family to The Savage Land to get ready for the next time they face Spider-Man.
Take any instance where Parker has worn the Symbiote
mikey kean there is the back in black what if... he kinda impales kingpin with a punch in the guts
Flash: Wears red, sometimes wants to kill his enemies.
Spider-Man: Wears red, sometimes wants to kill his enemies.
Iris West: Is a news reporter.
Mary Jane: Is a news reporter.
Wally West: Both names start with w, is black and is a kid version of the Flash.
Miles Morales: Both names start with w, is black and a kid version of Spider-Man.
See how much they have in common?
Ben better scream a crazy hashtag in this episode
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Green Goblin is a perfect combimation of Joker and Batman
-He has a double life of a Rich Buisness man and a Vigilante
-He laughs manically and wears green and purple
-He uses his company’s tech for his costume and gadgets
-He has messed up plans and damages characters mentally
That is why modern Marvel comics suck. They are always bringing characters that were dead and buried back to life. It is as if this new comic writers just can't deal with death.
Hell, the Green Goblin had an epic death, but then, 20 years later, a bunch of idiots thought '' Hm, lets bring him back to life with a lame explanation''.
And not only that. They also thought '' Hm, I've always fantasized about the Green Goblin fucking Gwen Stacy. Let's put that in a comic too!''.
Hello hi exactly I don’t get how annoying fans still love him I mean no one complains about this but complain about OMD. I blame marvel editorial and fanboys for the revival of Osborn ever since #6 I’ve despised him with a passion as a character from then on
Damn! I thought Joker was crazy. But Goblin is 10xs worse. His death in Spider-Man (2002) is very satisfying
Jeez I remember when this channel only had 77 subscribers
nhoj084eva where did the time go eh?
Doc Ock isn't his arch nemesis.
It's the Green goblin, and always has been, with Venom being close to that.
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Aside from what was on the list, Norman rejecting his chance at redemption and willingly becoming the Green Goblin is indeed where he’s reached the point beyond redemption. Norman truly became the Goblin at that moment.
green goblin is basically a mix between batman, iron man and joker
its amazing
Your forgetting the time green goblin turned peter into carnage
I'm pretty sure all the Spider-fans and even MARVEL wish the No. 1 Never Happened
JAAM TheAnimated wish no.6 never happened
No. 6 and No.1 are wayy too fucking dark
I'll never forget that butt whoopin' he got from the first Spider-Man movie 😂😂
except that Venom
#1: Killed Spider-man
#2: Knew his identity from the start, because the symbiote was attratched to spider-man
#3: has consistently targeted Spider-man's friends and family
#4: has nearly killed Mary Jane 3 times
#5: even Possessing Mary Jane and turning her into a wicked monster known as "She-Venom"
Kalarias the Dark God of Omnicide venom didin't kill spiderman that was anti venom
in several comics he has, mind you they are older comics.
including one where Venom killed Spider-man on a tropical island by throwing a flaming truck on him which exploded and incinerated the weak spider. Venom went to check the scene after the flames died down to find a crumpled burnt suit and the ash-covered bones of peter parker within that very suit
Kalarias the Dark God of Omnicide name of The comic?
i'll have to scrounge up the name, but it DEFINITELY happened
He didn't kill Spider man that time. Peter faked his death
No matter what, Goblin will always be the best Spider-Man villain of all time
Spider-Man is my favorite superhero it just makes me sad when Green Goblin does something bad to him I think Green Goblin did way more
As somebody who is not into comics these “Ten worst things a superhero/super villain have done” lists are so lit!
he killed Spiderman's baby=saving his life
the green goblin would literally steal spider-mans credit card then help him get it back only to reveal that he had it with him the whole time norman is straight up petty as hell
I thought Ultimate Green Goblin was such an excellent character. He was more interesting and intimidating than his 616 counterpart
kylehasstyle138 nah both are great Goblins
kylehasstyle138 Ultimate Green Goblin was a joke. Completely delusional. Not to mention his origin is stupid. How does being injected with Oz infused with his own DNA turn him into a fire producing green scaly monster? Spider infused Oz gave Peter spider-like speed, strength, and agility...it did not make him into a giant spider creature.
I disagree, honestly. He was kinda bland and he was just crazy. Not much of a motivation involved.
I heard that when it comes to Ultimate (comics not show, completely different despite name) The spider that bit Peter was a spider from Oscorp, Osborne knows about it and claims that said event was what he calls a 'fluke' and that he could do better than that and creates the Oz Formula but.. He becomes a hulking pyrokinetic monster who suffers from nightmarish hallucinations taunting him about Parker being better than him or something.
Overall I've always considered Goblin to be the best Spider-Man villain, possibly in the top 5 for Marvel villains altogether
Why is it called marvel 616?
and now its powerbombing spiderman through a whole apartment complex
The only villain worse than Green Goblin is Sony.
Kidding Sony, sorryish?
Can you not?
Can you just not
Have you played the new game?
@forever you fool
You just triggered the Sony hate base
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Fans: We want Spider-Man 4!
Sony: I missed the part where that was my problem.
Norman Osbourne is the kind of character that Marvel could kill off in every issue and no one would have a problem with it
Worst things Spider-Man has done to Spider-Man
Killed Gwen Stacy
no he didn't
This could of been 10 Reasons Why to Stop Villains form Learning your Secret Identity. Almost none of these terrible things would of happened if he had prevented him from learning his secret identity.
Seems a little odd to forget that he literally killed Spider Man
"when NORMAN BATES spidey," just felt like it needed to be heard
The thumbnail got me
"Norman Baits Spiderman." I see what you did there.
3:22 MJ is so damn sexy! Good for you,Spidey!
Then he sold their marriage to Mephisto to give Aunt May a little more time. After not only Aunt May but GOD told him to let her go and it'll all be OK.
@@DerangedAvenger in the process, sacrificing Mayday Parker, his baby. The future Spider-Girl. So messed up.
@@mmirlas2820 In another timeline, he decided to let Aunt May rest. Then Mayday was born.
#1 is unfortunately outdated because it turns out that Norman & Gwen's "kids" are actually clones created to torment Spider-Man mentally.
My friend and I have had the discussion of what heroes can never sit and have a cup of tea with their arch nemesis, as in the arch nemesis went too far. For instance, Reed Richards and Dr. Doom can sit down for a cup of tea. Batman and Joker? No. Spider-man and Green Goblin definitely fall on that list. This could be a good Top 10 for you. Other heroes and arch nemesis' that could never get lunch together: Daredevil and Bullseye, Flash and Eobard Thawne (Reverse Flash), Captain America and Red Skull, Judge Dredd and Judge Death (not sure how that would work anyways), Aquaman and Black Manta...
Reed is on speaking terms with Doom some of the times.
Christopher Vorenkamp Oh, I don't know. Doom has done a lot to Reed, including making him kill Ben Grimm. It was either kill him or let Johnny die.
The real issue is that Reed is just...too detached from life. He never seems to hold a grudge.
Lol I just imagined Spawn having tea with the Violator.
The green goblins the coolest Spider-Man villain in my opinion
Killing and sleeping with his girlfriend?? Green Goblin is a sick bastard. lmao
So this guy is basically the Joker of Spiderman. That's legitimately cool.
Gobby is one of Spidey's most personal enemies.
The snap on her neck was added later. My dad had the original comic and showed me it. That's why there's controversy behind it.
Ten hours of him saying wanker
doctor octopus is Spiderman worst enemy, but green goblin is peter parker's worst enemy, now the reason for this is because doctor octopus has done worse things to Spiderman but green goblin has Spiderman's identity as peter and assaults him in a personal way.
I hope you guys include The Walking Dead Comics as well in future videos. Got my sub so far (:
Let's not forget that one time he actually managed to kill Peter when he was still technically a kid!
In the recent Clone Conspiracy event wasn't it revealed that it was in fact Peter that killed Gwen as a result of the web line stopping her suddenly?
You should do a "10 worst things Doc Ock has done to Spider-Man" video because I never even considered him to be on the same level as the Green Goober. I want to see how his acts stack up to see who Spidey's definitive nemesis is.
Say what you want about the 2000 Spiderman goblin, he's still my favourite version.
No dude. Dr. octopus is Spider-Man’s 2nd arch nemesis.
Green Goblin will always be first.
Glen Gorblin really hates Peter Palmer.
And this is why it's a very bad idea to say yes to everything writers proposes to you !
Norman baits spider man...
Norman baits.....
OMG NORMAN BATES
Quackmare
lol
I honestly wonder why venom isn’t spidey’s arch enemy. Not only are they on par with eachother, but venom wants to dismantle spider-man peice by peice.
Can this channel just do a full video trying to explain the Kraven family history? (Seriously, it's really complex)
Well the Chameleon is Kraven's brother, or at least his half-brother
Jargon Madjin isn't the white tiger kinda related to him?
Sergei Kravinoff is the original, "Kraven the Hunter." Chameleon a.k.a. Dimitri Smerkyadov is his brother. Aloysha and Vladimir Kravinoff are his first 2 sons. Sasha Kravinoff is his wife. Ana Kravinoff is his daughter. Then he had a ton of clones of himself created and one of them survived and Kraven claimed him as his son. This son takes up the mantle of Kraven the Hunter when he accidentally kills his father when Kraven dresses as Spider-Man.
I freaked out for at 5:00 where Ben said 'Norman baits Spider-Man'. The first thing that came to mind was a 'What if' story where Norman Bates from Psycho & Bates Motel Fame becomes the wall-crawler... Now that's something I'd like to see.
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JOSVPH people know static shock from the cartoon
this is the day I shed a tear for Spiderman
What is the name of the whistle song in the background of this video?
No spider man's baby will never turn to spider-girl!
He's an iconic villain, so I know they can't kill him off, but I would *really* like to see Pete just cut loose and kick the CRAP out of Norman Osborne. Just once. He killed Gwen, man.
MrMike11233 but that would also piss off fantards like HiTop Films because that goes against Spidey’s character
He almost beat him to death after Gwen died...
Steamlazer X but he came back from the dead and did worse so it didn’t truly pay off
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 how dare they want a character to be consistent
alfa01spotivo how dare they constantly make a character repetitive and not let them die when they truly deserve it instead of glorifying murder of babies and villains prospering. Spider-Man should do to Osborn and that nurse who stole his baby what Joel did to those two bandits in the Last of Us. Piss off
I am still waiting for Marvel to bring back May Parker. She didn't die. They just forgot about her. And I'm never going to let it go Marvel.
Sins Past never happened nope we never talk about that shit fest ever, absolutely hate that storyline, it's iconic for being shitty
damn... im 19 now, growing up to the innocent Spider-man that beats up bad guys.. and seeing this... its shocking..
5:33 SPIDEY'S VILLAN LIKE:BRUH
Are we not gonna talk about how he helped kill peter on his front lawn in the ultimate comics?