The Spider-Man that was NOT for Kids
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- Опубликовано: 10 апр 2023
- The early 2000s were a VERY interesting time for Spider-Man. After the relative failure of the unusual Spider-Man Unlimited, Marvel began to take a much more straightforward approach developing their next animated series. They tasked Brian Michael Bendis to directly adapt his very successful Ultimate Spider-Man comic run. However, after the unprecedented success of Sam Raimi’s live action Spider-Man film in 2002, they decided to rework the series to become a direct follow up to that continuity. What resulted was Spider-Man: The New Animated series, a very ambitious and very different kind of Spidey series, and while I believe that in a lot of ways, it fails in its conceit to be a follow up to Raimi’s film, when taken on its own merits, there is a TON to love about the series. So join me as I swing through MTVs short lived and wildly different Spider-Man series.
Edited by Joe Murphy @nazchoz798
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Spider-Man The Animated Series (1994)
Spider-Man Unlimited (1999)
Spider-Man (2002)
Spider-Man: The New Animated Series (2003)
Spider-Man 2 (2004)
Spectacular Spider-Man (2009)
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
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Who would've thought that a Spiderman show by MTV would actually be really good
i watched this shit on crackle in like 2010 wasnt a huge fan but it grew on me
I watched it on YTV back in 2004 when i was like 3 years old and I have the whole series on dvd
Watched it on VHS 2005 😂
and dark
Been watching it on Disney+ and I gotta say, not at all what I expected. The first death I saw in this show shocked me.
Peter’s characterization is damn near PERFECT in this show. He has the right balance of intellectualism and charisma, as well as a healthy amount of assertiveness that is completely lost in modern Spidey media. NPH absolutely nailed it in my eyes, and he’s who I often “hear” when I read the Lee/Ditko and VERY early Romita years
Peter's a Dorky awkward nerd. Not Tony Stark Jr.
Ikr what is it and making peter a sheepish beta cuck?
His voice is amazing as well, Neil is extremely underrated
What do you mean by modern Spidey media?
@@saakkondeez You could argue that Peter Parker in the comics could be considered a poor man's RDJ's Iron Man with some moments of anger and fury and drama
Comics Iron Man and RDJ are not the same
Something I loved about this series is how it's the only one I can remember where Spidey consciously changes his voice in costume when around his loved ones. A small, but pivotal detail in my enjoyment of the series.
I noticed Miles does this in the Spiderverse movies too
@@minerman60101 its so silly! Imagine that. 🤨
@@kubix426that line always gets a laugh from me and my fam.
Speaking about the voices, for the Latin American Spanish dub the dub actors for Peter, MJ and Harry were the sames ones who dubbed them in the Raimi films. Actually, Tobey's dub actor also voiced Peter in Spectacular, though he didn't reprise his role as Tobey in No Way Home because, well, a lot of things happened
Pretty sure Tom Holland does it in Homecoming too if I'm not mistaken.
This show was animated by Mainframe Studios, who also made the first ever fully CGI tv show! These guys were always ambitious about cgi animation and I love them for it
Reboot?
@@BeeHell28 that's the one!
@@DigiTamerRiley We don't talk about *that one christmas movie*
They also had the bad habit of ending all their shows with cliffhangers with the full confidence they would get renewed.
I think Max Steel and Transformers had series which were entirely made in CGI... and if I am not mistaken, they were older...
And let's not forget the Stan Lee cameo in the final two episodes, where Stan Lee plays not some goofy version of himself, but as a grim old stranger who PUSHES Peter Parker towards vengeance with serious conviction. What also makes this cameo unique is that the Old Man is a lackey or some poor schmuck the Gaines Twins roped into their vengeful scheme of having Spider-Man murder Kraven.
Loved those two Episodes. Amazing and sad ending.
I always wondered if that old man was supposed to be their version of Ezekiel? It's such a bizarre role for Lee and it so weird that a character voiced by him looks nothing like him!
Love a dark themed spider-man. This, jokes all over the place and nothing final ever happens spidey’s loved ones is just boring.
The finale was so traumatizing to my 7 year old self, love this show
same
I was around the same age as well, though to be honest Electro's debut episode was the one that scared me as a kid
I was in my 20's and I was still traumatised lol
Same, I never saw the ending of the finale as a kid, so for years I assumed that MJ just up and died in this show.
True. Back when kid shows weren’t afraid of heading for dark areas
Correction on the first episode: Turbo Jet was actually based off a VERY VERY VERY obscure spiderman villain, Slyde. He only appeared in one comic during Romita's era. He was a scorned inventor who invented a non-stick frying pan spray that worked 100% effectively. His invention was passed off as dumb by the company he worked for so he became a supervillain instead as revenge. He actually has a REALLY unique power. He coated his suit in his non-stick spray, and absolutely nothing could stick to him or grab him, including Spidermans webs. He was also so slippery that he was able to "slide" on the ground at super speeds, faster than spiderman even. Funny enough, Spider-Man was unable to defeat him and he ended up escaping after ruining his former company's reputation. He was never seen or mentioned again. Turbo Jett and him share very similar qualities. Both African American, both wear a white costume, both travel at huge speeds, both can't be webbed up (jets vibrations melt the webs, slyde's suit can't adhere to anything).
@TheGlassesPro yeah reading this comment also made me realize "hey wait a minute the description really fits that villain character in Marvel's Spider-Man (2017, Disney)"
I thought I was Rocket Racer he was based on honestly.
@@janlukegabriel oh yeah, he was in that. Season 2, right?
@@jacobjantke6886 yeah I think so, some scenes involving the road and a bus
I was so consumed by Spider-Man during this time. Watched every show that came out. I wonder how it holds up.
The writing helped it age better I think (I mean it's pretty aggressively 2000's MTV, but they treated it a lot like an adult show, I definitely feel like NPH is one of the best animated Spidey's next to Keaton).
I begged my mom to get me the 57’ collection lol I tried to watch all of them in a day but it was like over 1,000 hrs lol
The cgi isnt that good but not that bad either, the story definitely made the series a lot better since i was always invested on what happened next since you dont get to see a mature spider-man show that much.
Loved Mary Jane's design in this series. It definitely feels like it's one made in the early 2000s with details like the Choker, the full bare midriff via Crop Tops and low rise pants, as well as some mild eyeliner; though without feeling dated at all and she looks really great all around. A shorter hairstyle also makes her stand out quite a bit compared to her other well known designs. And oftentimes, I've noticed how the rendering / cel shaded style of the show would make her bellybutton disappear and then reappear in a few shots depending on the camera angle and lightning. Mild animation goof right there.
I kinda had a crush on her when I was younger lol
I bet animating long hair on a main character wouldve been too much of a hassle
Agreed this was my favorite portrayal of MJ! 😍😍😍
Based belly button connoisseur
I just remember some really bad voice acting for some characters in this
MJ's death cut straight through me and is one of the only times Ive cried from a cartoon. Absolutely brutal to mess with your audience like that
Wasn't it a fake-out death? I don't think she died. He was brainwashed or something like that
Mj didn't die
Yeah she didn't die, it was Indy who probably died or went into a coma. Sadly, we'll never know.
Plus the series’ mature tone of allowing villains to kill makes them more serious threats.
@@Tesseract.2012Or even killing The villains off pretty straightforward and unceremoniously
It was really nice to hear such a positive take on the show. I've always felt it had a lot of great ideas, and Neil Patrick Harris' portrayal of Peter/Spidey was up there with some of the best imo.
good vids bro
This show absolutely deserved a second season. It's simply amazing, pun intended. The more adult oriented vibe, characters, stories AND to top it off, a masterpiece of a theme song.
Not amazing… Spectacular
Too bad we're never gonna get it
I'm really thinking about writing the second season myself because of my love for the show nothing especial just for fun@@TMF979Resurge
Loved this as a kid especially the dark tones that establishes being spiderman isn’t all funs and games especially during his collage years dealing with his studies and fighting crime
This is easily on my top three Spider-Man shows, standing alongside the 90's animated series and Spectacular.
I feel the exact same way but to be honest these are the only 3 Spiderman shows I actually care enough to remember.
I mean I remember Ultimate but it's not a close 4th by any stretch, it's TAS, NTAS and Spectacular in that top 3 and daylight between them and any others.
Out of respect for them all, I won't even rank them because they're all damn good Spiderman shows in their own right.
I do not care what anyone says. This Show deserves a season 2.
Man i wish we could get it. I just finished S1 few days back
I second that motion. It has a lot going for it.
@@robertrowley4929 If theres an appearance of any magnitude in the next spiderverse im sure itll get some kind of respect afterwards kinda like andrew spidey after NWH. This iteration of Spiderman voiced by NPH is really likable
They'd woke it to death so... No.
If S2 happened, most likely crime would rise, new villains show up and the city is challenged or divided over the decision of allowing Spidey to return.
I watched this show when i was like 4-5 years old. It was long after the show was canceled and i’m pretty sure i had a DVD of the whole show. I was to young to comprehend the nuances, but i absolutely ADORED the art style and aesthetic.
YO SAME HERE FAM. IDK WHERE I GOT THE DVD FROM BUT I WAS SO STOKED WHEN I WATCHED IT AS A LITTLE DUDE
Same but found it online I remember that scene when Peter bought coffee and the origin of Electro
I actually bought a DVD of the first 3 episodes of this series at a thrift store recently
My dad bought it for me at a movie gallery when I was like 6 I remember watching the first episode which was the electro episode and Lowkey that shit was 2 intense for my 6 year old self lol
@@yungprexious6837 my dad did the same, I was 5 tho and tbf Electro was the most memorable episode
Aw I love this show, I remember I used to watch it when I was 11. Such a shame it was short-lived. I have so many good memories of it, one of my favorites shows of Spidey without a doubt. Thank you for bringing it back
This series was my on-screen introduction to Spider-Man and still holds places for my favorite incarnations for some of the classic characters like MJ
Sometimes I wake up in a cold sweat thinking about that unresolved cliffhanger
I like the art-style for the show. It's unique.
For being 20 years old this show has aged like fine wine in my opinion I remember watching it as a kid not understanding how violent it truly was it’s honestly such a shame there was only one season and for anyone with Disney plus definitely watch it it’s sold
You know what I like about you Johnny? You're chill and straight forward. You don't gotta do skits or pretend your mad. It's such a nice change of pace. I also appreciate that you can talk about adult content without feeling the need to swear. Great stuff man.
also his videos dont have an annoying character or a cartoon of himself with two gestures talking to de camara 😂
Agreed. It’s also really refreshing not to have a pretentious tone.
@@alexklepp6479 ya know what else is refreshing? A nice cold Sprite
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lpwanna sprite cranberry.
@@FanGirl9463 they have those?
NPH is such an underrated spider-man voice he does a great job here and in shattered dimensions
The only problems I have with this show were:
1. It was killed too soon
2. It treats Spider-Man's costume weirdly as there are moments where he will change into it at an instant's notice, like it's a part of his powers. Otherwise, I love this adaptation of Spider-Man.
I interpreted the suit transitions as more of a stylistic choice to save time in the episode, rather than a literal thing that happens
@@torak_34It's pretty cool
For years I lived without hope of this ever getting revived, but life as of late has proved that such a thing would be possible. Seeing as minds were blown with revivals of older shows as well as friggin' Tobey in a new Spider-Man Film. Guys, maybe if we keep asking we can get this gem back.
The problem I see is that Spectacular also ended on a cliffhanger and there's probably a lot more fan momentum to see a 3rd season of that, before a 2nd season of this.
Also some still consider Spiderman TAS's ending to be somewhat of a cliffhanger and with X-Men TAS being revived, I'd wager there's also more momentum and overall chance for that being given some form of revival than this as well.
Overall I think that not enough people that know about this show in comparison to TAS, Spectacular and even Ultimate, I think it's why videos like this are important to at the very least make people remember this existed but hopefully also get new people to check it out so they can see how cool it was and we'll see if that hopefully gets this series a higher profile.
Honestly I wish they could do more with this I liked it a lot because it was different
I loved this show as a kid because I love ultimate Spider-Man and the style/ the body of Peter makes it look like the ultimate version.
The show was originally going to be an Ultimate Spider-Man show, but due to the success of the Movie, they made it a loose Movie tie-in show.
@@Wol1427 wow you just gave information already in the video 😱
I'm not nearly as into ultimate Spiderman as you but I still loved the show regardless.
I think it ultimately ended up somewhere between classic and ultimate and it was the better for it. It was neither but it was both and it was its own thing all at once.
Peter's neck looks too long and his head looks too big/round when he's in the costume. It makes a lot of the epic scenes look goofy imo.
I still sent a lot of things from the original, I thought the idea of it being something based on the film was pretty stupid
I like the electro from this show, he was eerie, actually felt like a threat, I wish more villains had that feel, Spider-Man villains are always solid imo
I gotta say, I always loved the colors and feel of this show. It was darker and had so much character. The show itself gives me a sort of melancholy feeling, especially knowing how it ended on a cliffhanger with Peter quitting being Spider-Man. Since there wasn’t anymore seasons that is the ending as of right now, Peter just giving up and living a normal life, which no one could blame him for with how the city hated him. Such a unique Spidey show, a huge shame that so many incredible Spider-Man shows never got finished.
I also loved how Peter’s animations while crawling along walls really looked like he was moving like a spider.
Well the follow-up to this show is technically Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 2, so you can rest easy knowing that
You made a good observation about the shows being as tragic as the character himself. They always end on cliffhangers and don’t get proper resolution.
I watched this series as a kid on Netflix back in like 2016. Seeing Tom Holland as the new Spidey at the time inspired me to catch up on EVERYTHING I could, and this show in particular always caught my eye. Always wondered what would’ve happened if it got to continue, same w Spectacular
Dude your not the only one wishs that this show, the 1994 series and Spectacular had a continuation
@@The_Blue_Otaku I never said I was? I was just talking about my own experience
@@bobbyshewan4229 oh
@@The_Blue_Otaku yeah, oh🙄💀
I wouldn't mind if they revived the show and act like it's own series than being part of Raimi version. Seriously this version have best character and villain (not best as Spectacular,but in it's own way) and the color of the character,world,and especially Spidey costume are top notch.
This is the best Spider-Man animated series that had a dark generational, gap because the story telling and voice acting along with peer support I really wanted this show to be a cult classic despite everyone no giving it a chance.
I love watching this series because a spider-man animated series like this could not be made today.
I really also wanted a follow up, on the ending series finale and just a return to this universe?
I lowkey love this franchise entry for the same reasons you go over early on (The focus on the main trio as young adults, the gorgeous lighting, the cel-shading that makes it look like Killer 7 or something from the PS2 lol).
I don't want my Spiderman stories to be grimdark or edgy, but I wouldn't mind if another entry took a stab at this 2000s alt-rock energy TNAS has going on. It's really charming in its own right.
There's nothing wrong with dark and edgy stories and Spider-Man has plenty of them. Also how could you be a fan of 2000s alt-rock and complain about edgy?
Oh man you just awakened a bunch memories, I had totally forgot about this show.
Honestly the animation doesn't even look that bad IMO. They did the best with what they had.
The writing is so good and even though its early CG, the cell shading saves it. It was a great show and I wish we got more of it. I liked the more mature take on an animated spidey series, something we probably will never see again outside of video games or the sweet death of Disney
Spooderman the series
I'm not the hero the world wants
But I am the hero the world gets
😂
Fuck yeah, man
My older brother is dying for that series😂
The series ate my family with a knife
@@Elmo.the-killer1 you too?
Edit: That exact same thing happened to my buddy Eric, just wanted to clarify
Yes! Spider-man is one of my all time favorite super-heroes! Thanks for this man!
Bittamin gang 🎉
Kids, in 2003, your uncle Barney was Spider-Man.
This and Unlimited wouldn’t be made in the modern day, but man it did a good job. Patrick Harris is actually a great Spider-Man VA, glad they brought him again in Shattered Dimensions.
Just another reason why I don't like the modern day
@@mbii7667modern day full of snowflake fr
I’m thoroughly stunned at how good this show sounds that I want to give it a proper watch now. I’m really impressed at how high quality it sounds and it’s a shame that it never got more of it to come to fruition.
I remember first coming actoss this in my late teens/early adulthood. The fact that Peter was also atthis pount in his life really resonated with me. I loced the darker and sexier themes. Imo SpiderMAN does best when he's allowed to grow and mature with his audience.
I think I still own this series on DVD. I always enjoyed the small details, like how Spidey is casually swinging upside down while holding a conversation with Talon. Or how they showcased his speed when he’s being shot at and is out crawling the gun fire along the sides of buildings!
Thanks for all of the Spider-Man videos. I can’t wait to see which Spider-Man cartoon you tackle next!
I loved this growing up the vibe was unmatched and the animation style was cool, I was sos sad when they removed it from Netflix
This is the Spider-Man I've been feeling like they could use for a short and extremely satisfying cameo in one of the multiversal storylines.
Man, I love this show. My second favorite piece of Spidey media behind Spectacular. I doubt we'll see a Spider-Man animated series geared toward an older audience any time soon. It's truly one of a kind.
My favorite Spider-Man show, still to this day.
Still wish more modern comic shows were confident enough to adapt characters from comics and movies as well as make their own
Better to stick to the source material
This was a damn crime that this was cancelled. It was mature and dark for the time and it is sad to see that we haven't gotten anywhere close to the story telling in recent games or shows.
I remember watching this on a vhs tape back when I was a kid
I love the idea that the twins were so unique & dangerous that they HAD to be killed off. One of the few times SM was completely out of his league & things got brutal.
Did you read the comics featuring Morlun? That was a story where SM had no choice but to kill the villain.
This has always been one of my favorite spiderman serieses, I could never really explain why but it just felt like a huge draw to me. The ending was heart shattering and honestly I wish we could've gotten a different resolution.
Head Over Heels, The Electro Storyline, and the Gaines Twins have been rent free in my mind for literal years and I will never not wish we got more of those vibes elsewhere. I've just never really seen anything that's scratched the same itch in a satisfying enough way.
I am SO GLAD you decided to do a retrospective on this fever dream of a spiderman show! I remember the sweet intro and saw it on Disney+ last month just to rewatch it all! Makes me miss the fact that spider man shows used to have more freedom to explore new stories mature themes compared to today’s spider man shows which practically HAVE to be kid friendly and related to the MCU somehow
I think this show really shined in its lighting. It disguised some of the iffy CG and brought so much personality to the show
Still can’t believe Neil Patrick Harris did the voice acting for Spider-Man
he also voiced him in spider-man shattered dimensions.
watched the whole show out of order on youtube as a kid, it's really stuck with me as one of my favorite spidey stories! so unique!
Man looking back at this show, i really feel besides the dark and mature things this show exclusively has that tied me to it as a kid (which fits the whole College Life Vibe) but i think its the characters that really make it shine.
I could be wrong but this show may very well be the BEST shown friendship between the Trio and has the best Harry I ever seen
It’s crazy how I haven’t seen this show since I was 8 but you brought up so many memories
8:37 that spin has me in tears😂😂
I remember watching this on Netflix when I was like 12 and being so confused by the episode order. I actually went through with a notepad to try and piece every episode together in order.
I watched this as a young teen and then rewatched as an adult I appreciate this series now it wasn’t bad at all
I remember my mother bought this for me near a decade ago and I loved it. I hope they make a season 2 because I swear, this was one of the few series' that I actually enjoyed.
Michael Clark Duncan as the Kingpin is one of my favorite comic castings of all time.
I remember watching this as a kid and absolutely loving it, glad to see someone else liking it even if it is 20years later
I guess bendis ended up getting what he wanted because bendis is actually credited as a producer and consultant on ultimate Spider-Man as well as it’s spin off shows with Paul dini as one of the producers/creators of that universe
I expect that the Ultimate Spider-Man series isn’t quite what Bendis had in mind, but since he created those comics it makes sense that he was a consultant
@@Johnny2Cellos I think he’s credited as a producer as well I’d have to check
@@Johnny2Cellos even tho it’s different or had the guts to be unique and one of a kind from any other Spider-Man adaptation and break the traditional and they have my respect for that
@@Johnny2Cellos he was still involved in its creation somewhat being a producer and a consultant
They had to adapt it for a family friendly audience and I like how it was handled
@@Johnny2Cellos true
This is the first spider-man show I ever watched. Because we got it on DVD I would watch this on repeat, over and over again. Enough times that I am convinced I have seen episode 1 of season 2. No matter what anyone ever says about it, this is Spider-man for me and it will never be ruined.
This is probably the one Spider-Man show were Carnage could actually have killed people if he were in it.
I remember watching this as a kid and it was honestly my favorite Spiderman show
This one has hands dowm my favorite MJ design, a shame it didnt continue.
I can’t believe I missed this in TV, I’m glad you brought it to my attention.
Honestly, the electro in this show is why i remember it so vividly, his voice and on screen presence was so crazy
Man I loved this show growing up. I had the DVDs and used to watch it on MTV lol. Criminally slept on. It was much more mature than anything I’d seen at that point
They will never make a Spider-Man show like this one and Unlimited. They're like a time capsule of the early 2000s.
I really miss that era.
What a nostalgia trip, I watched this when I was about 8 or 9 and completely forgot it existed, seeing the CG character models brought back a wave of memories, I remember nothing but a couple action scenes and Fisk drinking a coffee but what a banger of a TV show
This is a great and underrated spidey show , it had a great version of Mary Jane .
Unlike the new movies
Tbh this is the best version of MJ
Best Spider-Man show (to me). This show had THEE most potential out of any Spider-Man show and way more mature than Spectacular which is refreshing. I'm tired of Highschool era Peter, we need more college and post college peter in Media today.
I completely agree with you my friend and you’re right we really do need a more mature and wise Peter Parker that’s a leader to a team and a father to a family but modern Marvel/MCU will never do that unless it’s extremely profitable and it’s runs in their favor money-wise😢
Have a good day my friend 👍🏻
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I wish we got more seasons for this show. I loved it and it had the coolest MJ design ever. Plus Neil Patrick Harris nailed his performance.
She was hot
How does this not have more views already, I absolutely love these retrospectives!
Thank you for this, i remember watching this show on and off back in the day!
Rented it from Netflix as a kid and it will always be my favorite animated Spiderman
This series seems really cool, as someone who’s been a fan of Spider Man since I was a little toddler and grew up in the Raimi films it’s been awesome to watch these retrospectives and learn the animated history of Spidey
Didn’t even talk about how hard the score was for this show all the music used went hard asf the intro and outro songs especially
i remember watching this back in the day, still something i search out once a year or so and rewatch a few episodes. such a great series! here’s hoping that version of peter gets put into a spiderverse movie
The soundtrack for the show was fire. And i loved NPH as Peter. They should give him another Spiderman role.
Early 00s alternative music is my jam
I was way too young for this show when it came out but I got the entire thing on DVD and watched the hell out of it. Sam Raimi's Spiderman and this MTV iteration of Spiderman were my main introduction to the character on-screen and I still hold them to a high standard (even though the CGI animation of the show is a little clunky).
Great video Man, thanks...i own a couple of the discs but i never finish them. This makes me want to sit still and see these episodes now.
I watched that show when I was like 9, it was amazing, and still is!
This show is super fantastic! They really did a great job on Electro for sure and Kingpin was really good in it too. All the villains really rock here! Indy was amazing too. Seriously too bad this show ended when it did!
That animation blew me away at the time. I'd not seen cg animation stylised like that before!
I'm So Happy This Show is having a renaissance this year. I'm so happy
It was my fav spiderman show. As a kid I got really invested when electro got his powers.
I had no clue it was supposed to be a continuation since the people are so different
this show is by far the most underrated spidey show and ive seen in so many times now and it still as good as i remember it to be
Petition to bring this show back. This show was a banger
I grew up on this show, having the DVD so I got the proper order too. The animation always stunned me and all the stories, the dark tone and the amazing characterisation of spider-man. I loved this show
Last year I went a spidey binge going though the 90’s series, spectacular and this show, and man does this hold up well. Love the web swinging
This and TAS were peak like holy shit, kids bring up spectacular among the best but it doesn't even come close to these two
yeah
I've seen all of them, and I still think Spectacular is overall the best.
I would love to hear your take on the 80's Spider-Man series and Amazing Friends. As far as I know they're pretty much the same thing but made for two different tv stations.
I loved the Gaines twins as characters in this series. They are awesome villains I would have loved to see them in season 2 or in any live action spiderman movie.
I had a bootleg dvd with the series when i was a kid, i really liked it and the cgi was stylized so good