O'toole fell into this part after Finney and Brando turned it down. What a stroke of luck for the guy. A career making film of course. His signature role. And as good as those two were, O'toole really fulfilled the part because, in the largest art sense of the word, he was a romantic actor.
The whole movie is masterpiece that's fair, surely. This scene as brief as it is in my opinion is one of the best scenes in the movie. In less than a minute Lawrence is transformed from a kook to a true British Officer by non-other than the commander of all British forces in the middle east. Mr. Perkins, "bloody marvelous".
It’s truly the turning point, Lawrence in the general’s eyes goes from an annoying eccentric to a useful tool, and the general’s flattery makes Lawrence go along. Brilliantly told through music
Simply one of the Best scenes in any movie EVER! I would pay to see Anthony Quayle, Claude Rains, Jack Hawkins or Peter O'Toole Read the PHONEBOOK anytime! I am biased however, I proudly played the march "Voice of the Guns" in the USMMA Band....Kenneth Alford Forever!
Here we see Brighton turning from contempt to admiration for Lawrence- and it even surprises Lawrence. By the penultimate scene, we see Brighton as the most sympathetic and admirable character in the film.
My grandfather was in British Intelligence stationed in Egypt at the time all this was happening. He was very proud how the British were running the war BUT never, ever, spoke about the politics behind Lawrence's Arabia for the Arabs. Ofcourse, he must have known what was being planned between Britain and France since Egypt was a British Protectorate. Yes, in 1956 the Suez Canal crises resulted in the Brits being booted out and 96% of all foreigners eventually left. I would have loved to have known my grandfather but I doubt he would have enlightened me, he was urbane and spoke very, very little about his position.
Right arm at the regimental right-angle, middle finger to the butt-end of the eyebrow; snap off when salute returned by the brass hat wallah. Britannia Rules the Waves.....
I like how they never showed Mr.Perkins face when he was called into the room.Its a unique and clever part of the film.This film is a masterpiece in so many ways.
@@mark6310 - In that case I think Perkins (as a Sergeant then) was part of Lawrence's team who was drawing maps etc. This is shown in the early part of the movie. Lawrence was found to be incompetent with that kind of work. Need to watch the movie again :).
You might have missed the bit of sarcasm and pomp in the music, mate. Let's not forget that after this war, the empire was on the brink of collapse. Remember that the locals, especially the Arabs, knew that Britain had not the resources, the manpower, the moral authority nor public's will to allow them to simply replace the Turkish Empire and carry on. The League of Nations, which would cease to be in less than 20 years from war's end, gave them mandate in only Palestine. Less than 30 years later, they were thrown out of there, too.
@@arkady714 I get all of what you've said it's just nice celebrating a bit of extreme Britishness right wrong or indifferent every know and again but get off your soap box and enjoy the music for what it is and represents
Lawrence of Arabia was a maverick who achieved a victory with limited supplies and equipment he was a archaeologist who went to mesapotamea which is arab countries studied customs and language
Sgt Perkins what do you think .... bloody marvellous sir .... a true british NCO and if you think about it the saving of british navy and marines lives it was bloody marvellous
Apparently the scene where they reach the bottom of the staircase was filmed one year after the part where they begin walking downstairs. One of the many things about this movie that blows my mind.
nobody wanted to be in the service but everybody was ready to serve. the Brits are curious that way. Lawrence really gave the brass fits but they couldn’t deny his brilliance, only he could do that.
Lawrence's efforts were a mere pin-prick - a side-show really. The Turks were defeated mainly due to the efforts of the Indian Army - soldiers from my country. Two-thirds of General Allenby's infantry and one-third of his cavalry consisted of Indian soldiers. Indian soldiers bore the brunt of the fighting against the Turks in Palestine, particularly at the Battle Of Megiddo. The port of Haifa was captured by Indian cavalry. If it weren't for the Indian Army the British would not have been able to defeat the Turks.
@@prasadiyer3271 The British Indian Army* Not sure you can quite claim all the credit when the Indian Army was officered by Brits, had plenty of exclusively British Regiments in it, armed by the British, paid for by the British, led by British generals... etc. The Indian Army was a British institution. Like it or not. But yes, Indian troops did their share no doubt.
@@doug6500 To some extent what you say is true. The Indian Army was armed by the British but largely paid by Indians themselves. For example one, Indian King gave 100 million pounds to the British war effort of the First World War for which he was given the title exalted highness by the British. The officers of the Indian Army were British but officers themselves can't do anything without soldiers to back them up. Finally, Indian soldiers had no business to be involved in the First World War. Both Germany and Turkey were enemies of Britain - they were not India's enemies. Despite this Indian soldiers unselfishly gave their time and effort for what was essentially a British cause. British army units also did their bit in the war against the Turks. This must be acknowledged since it was Britain's war, not India's. They also had to do their bit.
One if the finest movies by a great director Sir. David Lean and a great blunder by the academy to not give best actor to Peter O'Toole on his debut. I have this movie in my collection and a few others by Sir. David Lean. This scene takes me back to my childhood and i remember my fathers tenure in Fort St. George. He was in the Adjutant Generals Office of HQ: ATNK & K sub area. I sometimes used to go with my father to his office. This was especially if I was taken to a hospital and father decided that it was best to skip school for the remaining day (which is what I definitely enjoyed the most!). I would generally hang around in his office or be at his typist's table typing away on the big typewriter. Or going thru the library or the newspapers and magazines in his office. By lunchtime we would go the officers mess. And wherever he went, in the Military side, he was always given a salute just as shown in this scene. I regret now that I never made it into the Army to carry on the tradition started 3 generations before me. I hope my son, named after my father, will take the tradition forward; once again.
Brilliamt clip. Notice how they're in slight disagreement at the top of the stairs and out of step when Allenby says 'oh do you know better?', but at the bottom of the steps they're both in step, the music's in time with their step and they're in agreement? Clever Mr Lean, clever.
KO: OK if I understand the way it works since I was on selective service list but not drafted (Vietnam) he doesn't salute if you notice Anyone that doesn't have "cover" or a hat. They are ALL have hats on.
when you're a General you can vaguely wave your swagger stick in the general direction of your head and that suffices, I mean, who's going to complain about a lack of form haha
did you know that the soldiers saluting at the officers mess . and the officers in the mess were real soldiers and not actors ? i was in hospital and the gent. in the next bed was an officer in the film, he was the one who said " get him out of here " !
@@marneus Hi, you are correct , but most of the soldiers in the Officers Mess were British soldiers with a few actors . The soldiers at the front of the building giving Allenby a "general" salute with their rifles were real soldiers . David Lean the director didnt pay the soldiers in the film but paid to have their mess decorated instead !
@@marneus All the extras were (Turks being run down etc) but not the ones in the officers mess which were real British Army soldiers. Doubt you'd get Spanish extras drilled that well in such a signature British Army fashion.
@@doug6500 LOL, yeah, using turk extras in Spain... Have you watched the Wind and the Lion? The "US" marines are Spanish Marines. Have you watched Patton? Those are Spanish soldiers, both the British and the Americans.
I think that Allenby would have addresses Mr. Perkins as Sergeant, etc, if he had been an NCO. Mr. Perkins was probably a Warrant Officer, because of his uniform and accoutrements. I'm former Navy and it was customary for us to address officers as Mr., along with warrant officers. Officers O1 to O3, that is.
When Perkins, the veteran NCO, expressed his approval of Lawrence's feat, Allenby could feel certain that Aquaba's capture would have a significant positive impact on morale of the British rank-and-file, and that he should trust Lawrence and his tribesmen to play a key part in the coming campaign to Jerusalem. He instinctively did just what Lawrence himself often had -- delayed talking to the Arab sheikhs (who would tell you only what you wanted to hear, if there was money or war goods in it for them), until he'd spoken with the lowest water-carrier or mounted rifleman and gauged the probable effect of his plans on them. The Arabs, in particular, were very sensitive to "the way the winds blew" at any given time. If the rumors that had gone 'round -- and there were always rumors -- made them hinky as to the prospects for a certain military enterprise, they'd desert it and/or sabotage it in an instant -- sometimes as individuals, sometimes collectively.
The British manner of performing Present Arms, shown at time mark 2:17 is snappy and the most impressive of any other Country's way of performing Present arms.
UGH. I've been those guards just standing in one place for hours when I was in the Corps. God, that was boring. And you can't relax because of all the brass walking around. Now I'm old with arthritis and just looking at those guys make me wince. I always thought of guards as unsung heroes.
@@Shatamx that’s what they always say ...but sometimes the man is such an utter *sshole, saluting him is an insult to the entire military. I twice visited our military prison during my service as an outside guest. Several officers were there, deserving of their detention, not their commissions. The worst of the lot was a scumbag named Colonel David Russel Williams. Google him. Under no circumstance does he warrant a salute, only a solid punch to the face.
@@MyLateralThawts Probably explains why there are no officers in British Military Prisons. They discharge them first and they serve their time in a civilian prison.
I legit thought the music was a brilliant original music by Maurice Jarre satirizing the pomp of the English military before finding out it was a real piece of music for the British.
It's so sad to watch Allenby's mental health crisis unfold. By this point in the war, he was unable to make even the simplest decision without consulting Mr Perkins. 'Mr Perkins,' he'd say while weeping pathetically, 'what do you think about this?' Allenby would be pointing at the underwear his batman had picked out for him to wear that day. 'Bloody marvellous, sir', Perkins would always say. 'Well done, sir.' Then everyone around Allenby would have to tell him how clever he was just to get him to leave his office. So sad.
Ah the coda to the "he (little boy) likes your lemonade!" scene. Shhh! You are a scourge and then you are a hero. The assessors deny being both. ****SPOILER***** Great movie and unusual because you know T E Lawrence's fate "early doors". I urge you to wear safety helmets and seat belts in moving vehicles at all times
thank you for mentioning this was in a building in Spain, i traveled to Egypt and can't remember any buildings that would have looked similar and such architecture.. it was more gray/drab looking.. maybe there are buildings in Cairo or such but the heat and the Egyptian sand just seem to permeate life in the city and the outskirts
Get the audio book from Audible. I had Seven Pillars on my bookshelf for thirty years and had attempted it a couple of times but in the end listened to the audio book, it was "bloody brilliant". My Grandfather served in Palestine in WW1, my father was in Cairo and Sinai in WW2, my uncle was in Yemen, Saudi and Oman, I've been in Jerusalem and Palestine and my son has been in Jordan and Oman; bloody strange coincidence really.
The scene suggests they met in Allenby's headquarters in Cairo but Allenby moved out to be in the field at Rafah and the building used is in Seville, Southern Spain - La Plaza de España de Sevilla - not built until 1929. A cracking scene, how many salutes are thrown up, how many coming to attention to pay compliments during Allenby's march to the mess door. 17?
La Plaza de España really? Incredible! I thought it was Cairo. I was there many years ago when in the U. S. NAVY on liberty from Rota. The "Archivos de Indias" are in that area if I'm not mistaken. Thanks for comment shipmate. Greetings from the #Caribbean!
“Amateur theatricals?” “Oh yes, entirely.” I love how Lawrence just goes along with Allenby’s callousness because he knows people like Allenby will never understand the Arabs so there’s no point in trying to change their minds.
"Returning in the company of the general to the club you were all but thrown out of shortly before is a great boost of self-esteem." Not to mention lighting a fire under the asses of the REMFs and making it clear who has his favour. The next time he would call for supplies or support, it would be a stupid officer who didn't comply.
Interesting that Brighton calls the headdress damned ridiculous and yet later in the film he is wearing one himself on the campaign due to the practicality.
Actually the Turks were mainly defeated on account of the efforts of soldiers from my country, India. Three-fourths of General Allenby's forces consisted of Indian soldiers. If it weren't for the Indian Army the Turks would never have been defeated.
@@hans2406 The decisive battle in the Palestine campaign was the Battle of Megiddo where General Allenby hurled two Indian Cavalry Divisions against the Turks completely shattering their forces. The Battle of Megiddo was the high point in Allenby's career and he was given the title "Lord Allenby of Megiddo".
they like to celebrate but england with usa they will collaps soon and we will see this kind of propaganta movie very differnt that what people have to undestand
@MrBobman1966 hey Giuseppe, no government or country lasts forever, look back to how many sides Italy fought for and how many governments they haven't in the last century.......
O'toole fell into this part after Finney and Brando turned it down. What a stroke of luck for the guy. A career making film of course. His signature role. And as good as those two were, O'toole really fulfilled the part because, in the largest art sense of the word, he was a romantic actor.
The whole movie is masterpiece that's fair, surely. This scene as brief as it is in my opinion is one of the best scenes in the movie. In less than a minute Lawrence is transformed from a kook to a true British Officer by non-other than the commander of all British forces in the middle east. Mr. Perkins, "bloody marvelous".
It’s truly the turning point, Lawrence in the general’s eyes goes from an annoying eccentric to a useful tool, and the general’s flattery makes Lawrence go along. Brilliantly told through music
Simply one of the Best scenes in any movie EVER! I would pay to see Anthony Quayle, Claude Rains, Jack Hawkins or Peter O'Toole Read the PHONEBOOK anytime! I am biased however, I proudly played the march "Voice of the Guns" in the USMMA Band....Kenneth Alford Forever!
That's why the Brits were so slow to take Jerusalem. Two-thirds of their troops were guarding Allenby's headquarters.
Made me laugh
Much better bar there than in the field
That's what you think. They were actually guarding Mr Perkins.
So nothing to do with a Turkish army in the way then?
@@samb2052 Nope. Common misconception. Too many troops guarding Allenby. Look it up.
love this walk to the club. ten minutes before the boys were ready to toss Lawrence now he is on parade with the commanding general. brilliant
The greatest movie in history
When I get called to my bosses office, I should march in like Mr Perkins and say "Sah!"
Bloody marvelous Sir! Well done Sir!
There's a fiver in it for you if you do!
I hope he has a sense of humor.
He doubt he would get it
@@johnwilliams2479 he wont get it because his names probably Muhammad its 2021 not 1960 lmfao!!!!!
At1.06 ` Mr Perkins ` has to be a genuine ex soldier - no actor could learn to about face like that .
You're a clever man, Sir...
No, but I know a good thing when I see one
That's fair, surely ...
Here we see Brighton turning from contempt to admiration for Lawrence- and it even surprises Lawrence. By the penultimate scene, we see Brighton as the most sympathetic and admirable character in the film.
What about Ali????
My grandfather was in British Intelligence stationed in Egypt at the time all this was happening. He was very proud how the British were running the war BUT never, ever, spoke about the politics behind Lawrence's Arabia for the Arabs. Ofcourse, he must have known what was being planned between Britain and France since Egypt was a British Protectorate.
Yes, in 1956 the Suez Canal crises resulted in the Brits being booted out and 96% of all foreigners eventually left.
I would have loved to have known my grandfather but I doubt he would have enlightened me, he was urbane and spoke very, very little about his position.
Good to see so many Ex Military extras playing Military police and sentries. How can I tell, their salutes for a start!
tell us more
Don't forget the UK had national service till the early 60s so many would have known military protocol and ettiqute.
Right arm at the regimental right-angle, middle finger to the butt-end of the eyebrow; snap off when salute returned by the brass hat wallah. Britannia Rules the Waves.....
You're quite right, they brought integrity to their roles; "Tunes of Glory" is a particular favourite.
That's what makes this shot show great. The whole discipline aspect of it.
I saw everything David Lean made when it first came out. He was a genius. Movies today are crap.
Yes but in fact you are insulting crap! They are worse than crap ! 😂
@@vincentlefebvre9255
A year later and they are crappier than the worse crap!🤣
What a brilliant piece of film work by Sir David Lean.
Bloody Marvellous Sir, thank you Mr Perkins, damn your got to love the British.
Not if you were Irish. Just saying.
@@trajan75 Those days are gone friend. Even Irish lads join the British Army , RAF and Royal Navy. Not unless your talking about Rugby.
@@gray3553 And a good thing too, but some of the New York Irish aren't so forgiving. Anyway it was agreat scene from a great scene from a great movie.
Jack Hawkins is an amazing actor. This film has an outstanding cast.
I like how they never showed Mr.Perkins face when he was called into the room.Its a unique and clever part of the film.This film is a masterpiece in so many ways.
Exactly. The known, upstart Lawrence in funny dress, verses the spit-and-polished anonymous Tommy...
Is Mr. Perkins the CSM/WO2 who gives a smug smile when he sees Lawrence walking with Gen. Allenby?
@@qmsarge Yes
@@mark6310 - In that case I think Perkins (as a Sergeant then) was part of Lawrence's team who was drawing maps etc. This is shown in the early part of the movie. Lawrence was found to be incompetent with that kind of work. Need to watch the movie again :).
@@qmsarge Mr Perkins gives the credit to Allenby and shows the men approve. Thus the smug smile.
Mr. Perkins!
Let's have a drink, gentlemen.
What a great scene. First Class (and good show!) as the Brits would say :-)
Love the Music all the pomp and power in the British empire in music fantastic and happy rule Britannia!!!!
You might have missed the bit of sarcasm and pomp in the music, mate. Let's not forget that after this war, the empire was on the brink of collapse. Remember that the locals, especially the Arabs, knew that Britain had not the resources, the manpower, the moral authority nor public's will to allow them to simply replace the Turkish Empire and carry on. The League of Nations, which would cease to be in less than 20 years from war's end, gave them mandate in only Palestine. Less than 30 years later, they were thrown out of there, too.
@@arkady714 I get all of what you've said it's just nice celebrating a bit of extreme Britishness right wrong or indifferent every know and again but get off your soap box and enjoy the music for what it is and represents
@@theinvisibleman2070 sorry predicted spelling makes you look thick sometimes
Bloody marvelous, sir!
Your a clever man Sir
Well done, sir!
You can tell the scale of the production just by looking at any shot of the film.
That "bloody marvellous" from a S/NCO is worth a bucket full of VCs.
Lawrence of Arabia was a maverick who achieved a victory with limited supplies and equipment he was a archaeologist who went to mesapotamea which is arab countries studied customs and language
Sgt Perkins what do you think .... bloody marvellous sir .... a true british NCO and if you think about it the saving of british navy and marines lives it was bloody marvellous
Apparently the scene where they reach the bottom of the staircase was filmed one year after the part where they begin walking downstairs. One of the many things about this movie that blows my mind.
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One of David Lean's finest.......
One of anybody's finest.
Yes. I rank this film as Lean's best and my number one of all time.
@@apollonia6656 Me too, apollonia! My number one. As Speilberg said - "A miracle of a film".
nobody wanted to be in the service but everybody was ready to serve. the Brits are curious that way. Lawrence really gave the brass fits but they couldn’t deny his brilliance, only he could do that.
Lawrence's efforts were a mere pin-prick - a side-show really. The Turks were defeated mainly due to the efforts of the Indian Army - soldiers from my country. Two-thirds of General Allenby's infantry and one-third of his cavalry consisted of Indian soldiers. Indian soldiers bore the brunt of the fighting against the Turks in Palestine, particularly at the Battle Of Megiddo. The port of Haifa was captured by Indian cavalry. If it weren't for the Indian Army the British would not have been able to defeat the Turks.
@@prasadiyer3271 The British Indian Army* Not sure you can quite claim all the credit when the Indian Army was officered by Brits, had plenty of exclusively British Regiments in it, armed by the British, paid for by the British, led by British generals... etc. The Indian Army was a British institution. Like it or not. But yes, Indian troops did their share no doubt.
@@doug6500 To some extent what you say is true. The Indian Army was armed by the British but largely paid by Indians themselves. For example one, Indian King gave 100 million pounds to the British war effort of the First World War for which he was given the title exalted highness by the British. The officers of the Indian Army were British but officers themselves can't do anything without soldiers to back them up. Finally, Indian soldiers had no business to be involved in the First World War. Both Germany and Turkey were enemies of Britain - they were not India's enemies. Despite this Indian soldiers unselfishly gave their time and effort for what was essentially a British cause. British army units also did their bit in the war against the Turks. This must be acknowledged since it was Britain's war, not India's. They also had to do their bit.
Jack Hawkins is a dead-ringer for Allenby.
Peter O'Toole is pretty close to T.E. Lawrence. Maybe not twins, but they could easily have been brothers.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._E._Lawrence
One if the finest movies by a great director Sir. David Lean and a great blunder by the academy to not give best actor to Peter O'Toole on his debut. I have this movie in my collection and a few others by Sir. David Lean.
This scene takes me back to my childhood and i remember my fathers tenure in Fort St. George. He was in the Adjutant Generals Office of HQ: ATNK & K sub area.
I sometimes used to go with my father to his office. This was especially if I was taken to a hospital and father decided that it was best to skip school for the remaining day (which is what I definitely enjoyed the most!). I would generally hang around in his office or be at his typist's table typing away on the big typewriter. Or going thru the library or the newspapers and magazines in his office. By lunchtime we would go the officers mess.
And wherever he went, in the Military side, he was always given a salute just as shown in this scene.
I regret now that I never made it into the Army to carry on the tradition started 3 generations before me.
I hope my son, named after my father, will take the tradition forward; once again.
Bloody marvelous sir!
I Watch this movie almost once every week. L O V E L Y they don't make movies like that any more
Jheeze you must have allot fo time on your hands
Jack Hawkins left us way too soon!
atif ariff go and visit a doc
Go and visit a doc outside NHS
Jack 'awkins: Gor blimey! The Voice of Britannia, eh?!
Brilliamt clip. Notice how they're in slight disagreement at the top of the stairs and out of step when Allenby says 'oh do you know better?', but at the bottom of the steps they're both in step, the music's in time with their step and they're in agreement? Clever Mr Lean, clever.
Excellent insight. Very interesting. Cheers.
you’re a clever man
@@lolshark99b49Well, I know a good thing when I see one, that's fair, surely 😉
@@mattgibbs73 haha well done
2:16 A well executed “Present Arms” for actors.
Ex National Servicemen?
100% ex national serviceman, I'd suspect they all were then.@@Jimdixon1953
David Lean knew how to make a film.
Brilliant scene, you can read into the moment as per what each was trying to achieve!
Fucking hell this film was, and always will be, incredible. Kind of hard not to get goosebumps watching it.
Indeed. I still get them sixty years after watching it for the first time.
One thing about being a general, his arm has a lot of hard work doing all that saluting wherever he goes.
KO: OK if I understand the way it works since I was on selective service list but not drafted (Vietnam) he doesn't salute if you notice Anyone that doesn't have "cover" or a hat. They are ALL have hats on.
when you're a General you can vaguely wave your swagger stick in the general direction of your head and that suffices, I mean, who's going to complain about a lack of form haha
A show of British Imperial grandeur at its very best!. We ruled the world and we knew and carried it off with class and panoche!
did you know that the soldiers saluting at the officers mess . and the officers in the mess were real soldiers and not actors ? i was in hospital and the gent. in the next bed was an officer in the film, he was the one who said " get him out of here " !
wait what? do you actually involved too in this movie?
Thats scene was filmed in Seville. Those were spanish army soldiers.
@@marneus
Hi, you are correct , but most of the soldiers in the Officers Mess were British soldiers with a few actors . The soldiers at the front of the building giving Allenby a "general" salute with their rifles were real soldiers . David Lean the director didnt pay the soldiers in the film but paid to have their mess decorated instead !
@@marneus All the extras were (Turks being run down etc) but not the ones in the officers mess which were real British Army soldiers. Doubt you'd get Spanish extras drilled that well in such a signature British Army fashion.
@@doug6500 LOL, yeah, using turk extras in Spain... Have you watched the Wind and the Lion? The "US" marines are Spanish Marines. Have you watched Patton? Those are Spanish soldiers, both the British and the Americans.
I think that Allenby would have addresses Mr. Perkins as Sergeant, etc, if he had been an NCO. Mr. Perkins was probably a Warrant Officer, because of his uniform and accoutrements. I'm former Navy and it was customary for us to address officers as Mr., along with warrant officers. Officers O1 to O3, that is.
Brilliant film.
When Perkins, the veteran NCO, expressed his approval of Lawrence's feat, Allenby could feel certain that Aquaba's capture would have a significant positive impact on morale of the British rank-and-file, and that he should trust Lawrence and his tribesmen to play a key part in the coming campaign to Jerusalem. He instinctively did just what Lawrence himself often had -- delayed talking to the Arab sheikhs (who would tell you only what you wanted to hear, if there was money or war goods in it for them), until he'd spoken with the lowest water-carrier or mounted rifleman and gauged the probable effect of his plans on them. The Arabs, in particular, were very sensitive to "the way the winds blew" at any given time. If the rumors that had gone 'round -- and there were always rumors -- made them hinky as to the prospects for a certain military enterprise, they'd desert it and/or sabotage it in an instant -- sometimes as individuals, sometimes collectively.
The British manner of performing Present Arms, shown at time mark 2:17 is snappy and the most impressive of any other Country's way of performing Present arms.
I agree. Very impressive!
Now if only they could fight.....
@@grahamgoldwyn5861 seriously
@@grahamgoldwyn5861 They could... the Turks got beat.
Graham Goldwyn oh.. they can fight
UGH. I've been those guards just standing in one place for hours when I was in the Corps. God, that was boring. And you can't relax because of all the brass walking around.
Now I'm old with arthritis and just looking at those guys make me wince. I always thought of guards as unsung heroes.
Guard duty beats getting shot at.
stupid heroes i prefer to say.
Thank you for your service.
I was thinking the same thing about standing motionless as I watched this. I was never in the service, though.
Wonderful realpolitik analysis !!
Reminds me how much I hated saluting in the army. Got called in to the RSM’s office on two separate occasions.
ruclips.net/video/qzKTOUkroU0/видео.html
Salute the rank not the man.
@@Shatamx that’s what they always say ...but sometimes the man is such an utter *sshole, saluting him is an insult to the entire military. I twice visited our military prison during my service as an outside guest. Several officers were there, deserving of their detention, not their commissions. The worst of the lot was a scumbag named Colonel David Russel Williams. Google him. Under no circumstance does he warrant a salute, only a solid punch to the face.
@@MyLateralThawts Probably explains why there are no officers in British Military Prisons. They discharge them first and they serve their time in a civilian prison.
Yes, the current drill, marching, arms has all changed, and is now an absolute girlies breakfast. (Australia)
I agree.
Bring back discipline and respect.
From a female : no women in the Forces.
@@apollonia6656 One of the senators from my state lost her legs flying for my nation, screw you!
William Jackson,
You can discipline your language !
we should be more inclusive
@@apollonia6656 well you certainly wouldn’t last long in the military complaining about foul language
Okay, this is the "Voice of the Guns", but Jarre was also using "Colonel Bogey" tunes in Bridge over the Rjver Kwai...
I legit thought the music was a brilliant original music by Maurice Jarre satirizing the pomp of the English military before finding out it was a real piece of music for the British.
It's so sad to watch Allenby's mental health crisis unfold. By this point in the war, he was unable to make even the simplest decision without consulting Mr Perkins. 'Mr Perkins,' he'd say while weeping pathetically, 'what do you think about this?' Allenby would be pointing at the underwear his batman had picked out for him to wear that day. 'Bloody marvellous, sir', Perkins would always say. 'Well done, sir.' Then everyone around Allenby would have to tell him how clever he was just to get him to leave his office. So sad.
You fight like clauswitz I fight like Saxe
Interesting. The military historian Captain BH Liddell-Hart dwells a lot on Le Comte de Saxe in his biography of TE Lawrence.
Ah the coda to the "he (little boy) likes your lemonade!" scene.
Shhh! You are a scourge and then you are a hero. The assessors deny being both.
****SPOILER*****
Great movie and unusual because you know T E Lawrence's fate "early doors". I urge you to wear safety helmets and seat belts in moving vehicles at all times
thank you for mentioning this was in a building in Spain, i traveled to Egypt and can't remember any buildings that would have looked similar and such architecture.. it was more gray/drab looking.. maybe there are buildings in Cairo or such but the heat and the Egyptian sand just seem to permeate life in the city and the outskirts
i’m still trying to read through “Seven Pillars”.
Good luck ,I gave up half way through!
Is it good?
Read The Mint. It’s shorter, not much on war, but interesting
Get the audio book from Audible. I had Seven Pillars on my bookshelf for thirty years and had attempted it a couple of times but in the end listened to the audio book, it was "bloody brilliant". My Grandfather served in Palestine in WW1, my father was in Cairo and Sinai in WW2, my uncle was in Yemen, Saudi and Oman, I've been in Jerusalem and Palestine and my son has been in Jordan and Oman; bloody strange coincidence really.
@@hermannthefisherman2960 It's great.
Love Mr. Perkins grin, looks as a fat Cheshire Cat who just had lunch. 1:35
Sir!!!😂
The scene suggests they met in Allenby's headquarters in Cairo but Allenby moved out to be in the field at Rafah and the building used is in Seville, Southern Spain - La Plaza de España de Sevilla - not built until 1929. A cracking scene, how many salutes are thrown up, how many coming to attention to pay compliments during Allenby's march to the mess door. 17?
La Plaza de España really? Incredible! I thought it was Cairo. I was there many years ago when in the U. S. NAVY on liberty from Rota. The "Archivos de Indias" are in that area if I'm not mistaken. Thanks for comment shipmate. Greetings from the #Caribbean!
@@arielfornari6595 That's the same building used to film Star Wars: The Phantom Menace.
Dam ridicules sir. Here you take it.
poor corrupt official.....
More General Melchett's than you can shake a stick at....
The same building was used in Star Wars Attack of the Clones
Rear echelon types confronting
Lawrence in his arab guise
All REMF's are the same... From an 11M.
Many better recordings on RUclips.
“Amateur theatricals?”
“Oh yes, entirely.”
I love how Lawrence just goes along with Allenby’s callousness because he knows people like Allenby will never understand the Arabs so there’s no point in trying to change their minds.
"Returning in the company of the general to the club you were all but thrown out of shortly before is a great boost of self-esteem."
Not to mention lighting a fire under the asses of the REMFs and making it clear who has his favour. The next time he would call for supplies or support, it would be a stupid officer who didn't comply.
Especially when Allonby says I'm here at the invitation of.... Major....Lawrence 😉. Gets the immediate field promotion noticed!
Good call on the REMFs from an 11M... Nice to see the General parade a real warrior in front of chairborne pukes.
@@JF-xq6fr LOL! Yup, back when "mounted infantry" meant exactly that!
Don't call me shirley
Interesting that Brighton calls the headdress damned ridiculous and yet later in the film he is wearing one himself on the campaign due to the practicality.
The building used in this scene is just incredible... anybody know the location?
I looked it up once, and found it, Try "The making of Lawrene of Arabia " movie
Plaza de España, Seville, Spain 😉
It was filmed in Seville Spain
and they were real British soldiers, with a few actors !
Lay's it on a bit thick...What?
Back lit? Oooooooh.. Kok tau
You're a clever man, sir.
No, but I know a good thing when I see it. That's fair...surely.
Great writing...delivered with aplomb.
why would the british be so interested in taking jerusalem ? gee i wonder why
This is the best use of music in the whole (brilliant) movie. You can hear El Aurence’s ego inflating to the music
Audio too low.
I'm promoting you Major..... I don't think that's a good idea.....
1:49 What does Lawrence say before Allenby says "you know better"... Bluff, pluff???
He says "Saxe" (Maurice de Saxe, the marshal)
Actually the Turks were mainly defeated on account of the efforts of soldiers from my country, India. Three-fourths of General Allenby's forces consisted of Indian soldiers. If it weren't for the Indian Army the Turks would never have been defeated.
Thankyou Prasad, I did not know that.
And yes, you are right.
However without the Indian forces it would have taken much longer.
@@hans2406 The decisive battle in the Palestine campaign was the Battle of Megiddo where General Allenby hurled two Indian Cavalry Divisions against the Turks completely shattering their forces. The Battle of Megiddo was the high point in Allenby's career and he was given the title "Lord Allenby of Megiddo".
world would be much darker place without britain's role throughout more receant history.
And even worse without Russia’s sacrifices
Oh, really
too fuzzy, poor audio!
at 1:35 is that the guy from the hotel in Home Alone 2?
No that’s not Tim Curry. He would’ve been only 16 when this movie came out.
Ohh boy a medal...the stuffy British military disconnect his inter demons of contempt for the whole system
thumbs down utube get ride of gramerly thanks be to God no adds in heaven
they like to celebrate but england with usa they will collaps soon and we will see this kind of propaganta movie very differnt that what people have to undestand
You are such a sad person.
@MrBobman1966 hey Giuseppe, no government or country lasts forever, look back to how many sides Italy fought for and how many governments they haven't in the last century.......
If the UK and the US fail think what will happen to the second and third world countries! You'll be back eating dogs and rats.
England has been around for almost a thousand years I think, they won't be collapsing anytime soon
When the US collapses it will be world wide chaos as Europe will have long gone to barbarism.