I can relate to the gate keeping aspect of the south park goths even as an emo in highschool - they're similar in that aspect haha - the south park emos are also very on point
The goth kids in South Park are awesome. They literally steal the show every single time they appear. When it comes to representing goths they might be too accurate for some.
Honestly, the South Park Goth Kids seem to be such a perceptive (if tongue-in-cheek) nod to the real-life goth community that I won’t accept that Trey Parker and Matt Stone aren’t somewhat gothically-inclined themselves. I mean, they actually got Robert Smith voice himself in the ‘Mecha-Streisand’ episode, at the end of which Stan even says “Disintegration is the best album ever!” So they’re definitely more aware of the actual goth subculture than most gothic characters in pop-culture, at the very least. What I wouldn’t give to hear them go off on the real-life gatekeeper types... LMAO
Also they were teenagers in the late 80s so obviously they saw the first big goth movement. Probably they had friends who were goths so they knew exactly what to satire.
I think that is exactly what they did by representing the Goth community like that and giving them the episodes and a lot of the scene. I fully agree with your comment. As goths, you can see the gatekeeping Lynn is also talking about, it's what South Park does as a theme, shine light on social illogic. The 'Emo's are posers' is that. S tier!
matt and trey are really great at studying culture must have some sort of anthropology degree or something because they just understand how different community's work. It's not just goth that they have done a great job at representing it's everything.
Definitely agree with Conor that the South Park goth kids should be in S tier. While I agree with Lynn that they aren't a very desirable representation of goths, they are arguably the most "legit" ones on the list. The others are dark alternative folks, sure, but the goth kids are the only ones (afaik) who are confirmed members of the actual goth subculture, rather than just black-clad spooky characters.
I can forgive the negative aspects of the depiction because it's goddamn South Park. A show so crass and often lacking in nuance actually managed to provide a surprisingly accurate depiction of the subculture. I love that the creators did their research. It made me so happy to see the dedication to realism, even if that unfortunately means showing the gate-keeping and such. I think they're great.
@@massivegat5087 Exactly, the whole show is full of things like that, it's obviously a humorous exaggeration of stereotypes. They still did a really good job with it, they could easily have gone the route of doing some generic and painfully incorrect portrayal that so many other shows/movies do, so mad props to them for accuracy!
Ruby Gloom: -dresses goth just for the love of it -listens to goth and rock and metal and such (listens to many different musical genres however) -loves rain -loves murder mystery, plays the games and reads the novels and such -loves crows and bats and black cats -loves the dark and macabre/unafraid of death imagery and iconography (not as in she’s not afraid to die but most people are made uncomfortable by things to do with death like death imagery like guillotines or skulls or coffins and such) -is all about being yourself and expressing yourself -embraces the weird -finds the beauty and fun in the dark and weird and morose and all of that Conclusion: Ruby Gloom is the ultimate goth
The South Park Goth Kids are Iconic - it was a mistake for Matt and Trey to not give them a spin off series. Daria seemed boarder line Goth to me. Total Drama Islands Gwen was a sweet heart.
Yh, Janes brother Trent is actually confirmed goth tho - plus Jane and Darias attitude and thoughts and feelings just scream goth. I would have given them A tier for sure
Couple things: -You're not old (under 35 yeah?) -Jane's brother Trent was more goth than Jane -South Park goths are the most goth characters ever depicted. The gatekeeping goth archetype is part of us and our shadow side. When people make light of it, it's hilarious and lets everyone know we don't take ourselves so damn seriously. Like only allowing you in the club if you own the original pressing of Release the Bats from 1983 or something, LOL.
i agree with trent being more goth, given the sisters of mercy poster he's got in his room and his whole music thing but i feel jane is more "visibly" alternative if that makes sense. i kinda think she shouldve been a bit higher but i think that's my own bias towards her as a character
Update : I have changed my way of thinking about South Park Goths after reading many comments! I'm aware at the time I was thinking too far into something that was only a joke! At the end of the day I laughed at the episodes and don't take it too seriously. I just wanted the other goth cartoons to be before them because they had no negativity that came with them!
I'm sorry, Lynn, but I have to agree with Conner 100 percent about the South Park goths. Those characters are everyone I hung out with in high school, and me too. I'd knock the Scooby girls down and the South Park goths up.
the south park goths represent more of the elder goths. but i do agree that they do deserve to be in S tier. i think lynn took that shit way too seriously 🤣.
Mandy from the Grim adventures of Billy and Mandy was someone I felt like would be on the list. She was my spirit animal growing up because she was stuck in pink and stuff but definitely had alt kids vibes and I felt like that was me growing up.
I always wanted to know the opinion of more goths about our representation in cartoons haha it's always nice to see your videos guys! You two look amazing 🖤🦇
Gwen from Total Drama was one of the main reasons for why I wanted to learn more about the goth subculture and its music. It’s so weird that I owe my music and fashion sense to one fictional character.
I really liked "I Feel Sick", I was hoping there would be more issues, but sadly there was not. Also I like Conner's new hair style, it suits him well.
I came into comments to write this here, yes. I'd say Creepie is underrated, but it has Addams family vibe and you learn also a thing or two about bugs.
Finally! People that actually know about Creepie!! Any time I reference that show, nobody knows what I'm talking about; she was so freaking cute with her multicolored hair and stripey tights, and the sound of her walking! I wish more people grew up with her :(
I loves that show so much growing up it was amazing I came to the comments to write the same thing! As someone who loves all kinds of bugs I just loved the show and she definatly inspired me
While I'm disappointed that Lucy Loud didn't make the list since she's my most favorite goth of all-time, I am glad that you included the goth kids from South Park since I am a really big fan of both South Park and the goth kids.
i know this is a whole two years late but omg, gwen from total drama is how i got into the goth subculture and she will always have a special place in my heart 😭 and i love crimson and ennui ofc
New video notification from Random Goth Couple, me - *drops everything to watch it straight away* Hoping the goth kids from South Park get a mention, Raisins is one of my favourite episodes! 🖤
I still watch Beetlejuice The Animated Series regularly. Animated Lydia is arguably more goth than movie Lydia in my opinion. Love both versions of her though! I’m glad Conor stepped down from debating her goth status. It was a wise decision 😂💀. I love this video theme though! Great job guys!
I grew up watching Ruby Gloom and reading Emily the Strange. Another lesser known goth comic is Nemi, it's a Norwegian comic series, kind of strange but I enjoyed it
Total Drama Goth dude looks like BoyInABand (Dave) LOL [please look into Shego she is amazballs] Also on a different note great new track from MUNRO - Looking good Conor. 🖤🤘🏻🖤
Conor is right. The South Park goths deserve s tier. We do literally know these kids lol they're not the best representation of the entire goth Community but they definitely are a realistic portrayal of a part of it
About Misa from Death Note, she truly got on my nerves, but she had one moment that was TRULY ADORABLE... It was that moment when Light & L were handcuffed together, and (if I remember correctly) they got into a fight & Misa broke up the fight & told them that since they were working on a common goal (finding "Kira" wink ;) wink ;) wink ;) ), that they should all be friends! And then she gave L a kiss on the cheek that shocked him (along with having "friends" ) and then they all danced around like "ring around the Rosie. It was so stupid... and yet so cute seeing all 3 of them getting along so well. LOL!
New sub! Love your content - I really loved hearing Lynn speak about the South Park goth thing and how gate keeping is an unfortunate part of alt subcultures we should try to let go of ❤️ also I recently found my Emily the strange comic book I thought I lost and was overjoyed ❤️ looking forward to binging your content 🖤🐈⬛🐀🖤👻
Ruby Gloom was actually made out of the college I attended, Sheridan College in Canada! Super cool to see you folks know who Ruby Gloom is and highly recommend you watch even 1 or 2 of the cartoons as they’re super short and grand. And you also know Mona the vampire!?!? I love you two but this video pulls me in further 🖤
I love Frankie from Monster High! She is very cute! I love her personality. Her clothing would be considered goth. Her music taste would probably be whatever her friends are listening to so there may be some Gothic music in there!
Can’t wait to watch this when I get home. :) goth characters are so fun! My favs for sure are the goths from South Park and Raven from teen Titans. She’s pretty darkly. 🖤
I agree with Lynn for the most part. But I do agree with Conor when it comes to Misa. I always thought that Jane from Daria was more grunge. You guys are sweethearts. 🖤
trey and matt need to be credited for how much they study cultures to respect the culture. For that they should get S for the representation alone. feel like lydia should be A if it was movie lydia I could see an S tier.
As a man who grew up in the 90's I am loving this. You guys remind me of the old school goths I went to school with in the 90's..when it was at its height. I always used to love hanging out with the goth kids..they were cool with me and had a chill vibe. I'm 38 fyi..not sure how old you guys are but I appreciate this a lot. I dig your style btw..awesome.
Triana Orpheus is voiced my someone who used to sing for a goth band and I remember they put some ( sometimes knock off, to avoid copyright) bauhaus posters in her bedroom. also honorable mention ,no goth characters, but the cure did write the intro song for dragon hunters
Danny Phantom was tight It wasn't actually until recently when she showed up in memes that I saw how gothy she was. So, either that's just not something that stuck with me at the time, or it wasn't a big part of her character. Go check out the show though. I haven't actually seen it since I was younger, but I feel like it holds up. The theme song definitely does . That was a tune 🎶
@@RandomGothCouple I'm actually considering going back and checking it all again some time. I don't know if I even saw every episode of it when it aired
That movie came out before I was born, like a year or two to save anyone reading this from feeling too old, but even I couldn't agree more. I wanna be like and with the Hex Girls
I'm from Canada so maybe it's a regional thing cause we're the same age but I knew all of the characters. I did really like ruby gloom but I was absolutely the emily the strange kid.
I know sly Cooper 2 isn't a cartoon by any means. But it's a cartoon video game. There's this character that fills in a lot with the environment of goth style, The contessa . She has her own Gothic Castle in a rainy environment and it's just spot on . I feel like it could fit in as an honorable mention maybe . Or a video of gothic Videogame characters probably.
I've been in the scene for 32 years and have met the South Park goths in the 1990s, 2000s, 2010s and 2020s (and see no sign of this changing in future decades) - definite S-tier!
Raven is definitely the most "gothic" without necessarily being 80s "goth." Her dad is literally satan (ok, Trigon, but still, lol). She is into the dark macabre stuff (literature, films, poetry, art) and actively practices magic. She was once reading an old occult tome and brought a malevolent dragon back to life on accident and there was that one time she was going to bring about the end of the world against her will... everyone else pales in comparison, imo, lol. Although as far as actual "real life" goth representation... South Park definitely wins.
Was way too old to get into total drama, but the compilations I've seen on the goths makes them the best. Also agree to the south park goths being spot on, I knew so many kids like that in high school lmao
While I've been interested into metal/goth music and general "dark" stuff since I was a kid, fashion wise I was quite plain with next to 0 interest in my look until I saw Death Note and is in great merit thanks to Misa that I started to try and experiment more with my fashion and I started to dress goth/alternative and now I'm at the point where if I pick any random clothing item in my closet there are good chances I could make a Misa inspired outfit with it but I do understand perfectly how aside from her clothes styles she is far form being a "real" goth so while I would have liked her at a higher place I'm fine with B
I agree with this list, for the most part - but I do have to agree with Connor on the case of the Goth Kids, they are real accurate to some extent, behaviour & personality and all. (I've met & somehow befriended a few kids like them myself)
Great hair Connor Also, I haven't watched this yet, and if my homies the goth kids from south park aren't high tier we'll have a problem *after watch edit: thanks😁
@@RandomGothCouple I like em so much. They symbolise not only my humour but also the most me kind of "mood" one could possibly create. I don't think they make all goths look like elitists necessarily, they're just kids who need something so meaningfull in their life to compensate their problems amd negative thoughts that they take it too seriously and want to look at it as some sort of state of perfection, and anything other than what goth is in their eyes feels like a personal attack to them. I relate to that a lot because I compensate by treating something I'm into like a way of life or part of my identity a *lot*. Maybe thats what elitists do as well. Some people just need that meaningfullnes in their lives.
Awh you guys are so cool! Uhm if you haven’t already done it A video idea is “reacting to old pictures of ourselves” cuz I find it so cool to see people who are alternative when they were younger. And I saw a scene girl do it and it was so funny/cute cuz all the classic photos like the upper angle and style. It’s just an idea if you haven’t already done it. I’m also surprised you guys don’t have more subscribers cuz your content is so good :)
As far as favorite Goth characters I would say, 1. Rogue from X-Men Evolution, 2. X-23 from the more recent X-Men comics, and 3. Gwen from Total Drama.
Some of these characters are new to me, I grew up with Beetlejuice, JTHM, Death from Sandman,Hexgirls...all the 80s and 90s stuff.. It's nice seeing people accept Goth in the media,I'm kind of yes and no,conflicted; but, it gives kids now a positive look into an alternative lifestyle and positivity is good. I'm 40 and didn't give up my goth card yet 😆 Times have really changed,I really didn't think Goth was going to be a mainstream thing so it surprised me to see it more accepted.
I don't know if this Character is actually a Goth related Character, but how about Mandy, from Billy and Mandy. Mandy was so dark. Now, I get that most Goth (at least me) won't act that sinister. However, I fell in love with that Character Mandy. She was no joke!
One of the South Park creators is probably the BIGGEST Cure fan (hence why Robert Smith beat Mecha-Streisand), which is why I think the South Park Goths are so realistic.
You guys did really well putting the characters into tiers as it is really hard to do when it comes to cartoonage. Oh my hubby he's a subscriber to your channel 'Killer clown' (used to be johnny the clown) is really excited for Munro coming to Glasgow during the tour Conor 🙌 he can't wait to see you guys blow the roof off should have heard him when he found out about it he's such a big fan of you all, I hope 🙏 you guys have a great tour conor Hi Lynn 😀🙌 your awesome too 🙂
honestly, I think south park goths are most realistic goths but in a very exaggerating way. this is probably how yk others see us and during the start of getting into goth i was one edgy mf when I remember that I get the ick a little
@@RandomGothCouple the oblongs wasnt well received by the networks it was on, got cancelled after a season, but susie had a couple anthology books with her in it so thats nice
Don't worry about the hair. My hair was super long and the humidity and the warmth made my scalp go ham and I had to cut it all off. It doesn't look bad, I just miss the long hair.
Jane is way more expressive than Daria who is truly monotonous jaja I think they’re grunge (also the time period) but dudees Jane’s brother, Trent had band posters all over his room;bauhaus, the sisters of mercy, Daria had some kafka one and her walls were covered in asylum cushions. It’s a lot of dry humor but I think Daria is alt. Dry humor gold (Just sharing my opinion not judging tier!)
The South Park Goths are all of us as baby bats, and we all used the phrase 'conformist sheeple' un-ironically at some point in that time.
Really though. Even though its not the most desirable representation, this was totally me and my friends in middle school and early high school
I can relate to the gate keeping aspect of the south park goths even as an emo in highschool - they're similar in that aspect haha - the south park emos are also very on point
Dude I love the goth kids, and every time my friend comes over to my house, I call her a conformist and a poser
The goth kids in South Park are awesome. They literally steal the show every single time they appear. When it comes to representing goths they might be too accurate for some.
@@fey__3919 as an emo myself, I relate too
Honestly, the South Park Goth Kids seem to be such a perceptive (if tongue-in-cheek) nod to the real-life goth community that I won’t accept that Trey Parker and Matt Stone aren’t somewhat gothically-inclined themselves.
I mean, they actually got Robert Smith voice himself in the ‘Mecha-Streisand’ episode, at the end of which Stan even says “Disintegration is the best album ever!” So they’re definitely more aware of the actual goth subculture than most gothic characters in pop-culture, at the very least. What I wouldn’t give to hear them go off on the real-life gatekeeper types... LMAO
Also they were teenagers in the late 80s so obviously they saw the first big goth movement. Probably they had friends who were goths so they knew exactly what to satire.
I think that is exactly what they did by representing the Goth community like that and giving them the episodes and a lot of the scene. I fully agree with your comment. As goths, you can see the gatekeeping Lynn is also talking about, it's what South Park does as a theme, shine light on social illogic. The 'Emo's are posers' is that. S tier!
matt and trey are really great at studying culture must have some sort of anthropology degree or something because they just understand how different community's work. It's not just goth that they have done a great job at representing it's everything.
Sorry but kyle said disintegration part not stan lmao
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Definitely agree with Conor that the South Park goth kids should be in S tier. While I agree with Lynn that they aren't a very desirable representation of goths, they are arguably the most "legit" ones on the list. The others are dark alternative folks, sure, but the goth kids are the only ones (afaik) who are confirmed members of the actual goth subculture, rather than just black-clad spooky characters.
I can forgive the negative aspects of the depiction because it's goddamn South Park. A show so crass and often lacking in nuance actually managed to provide a surprisingly accurate depiction of the subculture. I love that the creators did their research. It made me so happy to see the dedication to realism, even if that unfortunately means showing the gate-keeping and such. I think they're great.
@@massivegat5087 Exactly, the whole show is full of things like that, it's obviously a humorous exaggeration of stereotypes. They still did a really good job with it, they could easily have gone the route of doing some generic and painfully incorrect portrayal that so many other shows/movies do, so mad props to them for accuracy!
Ruby Gloom:
-dresses goth just for the love of it
-listens to goth and rock and metal and such (listens to many different musical genres however)
-loves rain
-loves murder mystery, plays the games and reads the novels and such
-loves crows and bats and black cats
-loves the dark and macabre/unafraid of death imagery and iconography (not as in she’s not afraid to die but most people are made uncomfortable by things to do with death like death imagery like guillotines or skulls or coffins and such)
-is all about being yourself and expressing yourself
-embraces the weird
-finds the beauty and fun in the dark and weird and morose and all of that
Conclusion: Ruby Gloom is the ultimate goth
Oh I loved watching Ruby Gloom growing up; I also really love your description of her, it makes me feel seen! 🖤😄
Yeeessssss I love Ruby Gloom!!😍
Wait?? Ruby is goth?? WHY THE FUCK DIDN’T YOU TELL ME??
Wait, does it mean that I'm like 60% goth or something? Like the only thing from here that I don't do i that i don't dress like one.
Oh hell yes, Ruby Gloom!
"I'll leave it in A to avoid sleeping on the couch tonight" 😂😂😂 I died at that comment.
Update : I did indeed not sleep on the couch that night. Mission accomplished
@@RandomGothCouple good job Conor very proud lol
The South Park Goth Kids are Iconic - it was a mistake for Matt and Trey to not give them a spin off series.
Daria seemed boarder line Goth to me.
Total Drama Islands Gwen was a sweet heart.
Yh, Janes brother Trent is actually confirmed goth tho - plus Jane and Darias attitude and thoughts and feelings just scream goth. I would have given them A tier for sure
That and their ongoing conflict with the vamp kids was hilarious.
On a side note all the alternative subcultures hating on Emos was so accurate
Couple things:
-You're not old (under 35 yeah?)
-Jane's brother Trent was more goth than Jane
-South Park goths are the most goth characters ever depicted. The gatekeeping goth archetype is part of us and our shadow side. When people make light of it, it's hilarious and lets everyone know we don't take ourselves so damn seriously. Like only allowing you in the club if you own the original pressing of Release the Bats from 1983 or something, LOL.
jane was pretty much just an alternative girl. The funny thing is there is an actual goth girl in daria but she barley gets screen time named andrea.
yeah i’m pretty sure trent had a sisters of mercy poster in his room. i remember seeing it and getting really excited lmao
i agree with trent being more goth, given the sisters of mercy poster he's got in his room and his whole music thing but i feel jane is more "visibly" alternative if that makes sense. i kinda think she shouldve been a bit higher but i think that's my own bias towards her as a character
Update : I have changed my way of thinking about South Park Goths after reading many comments! I'm aware at the time I was thinking too far into something that was only a joke! At the end of the day I laughed at the episodes and don't take it too seriously. I just wanted the other goth cartoons to be before them because they had no negativity that came with them!
I think there's a very nuanced conversation to be had here and I enjoyed listening to the one you both had.
@PxsDD yeah I agree we need a full video on this topic - Lynn
I'm sorry, Lynn, but I have to agree with Conner 100 percent about the South Park goths. Those characters are everyone I hung out with in high school, and me too. I'd knock the Scooby girls down and the South Park goths up.
the south park goths represent more of the elder goths. but i do agree that they do deserve to be in S tier. i think lynn took that shit way too seriously 🤣.
South Park did open doors for a lot of skaters & other subculters that were falling down hill so I can see that part of it
Mandy from the Grim adventures of Billy and Mandy was someone I felt like would be on the list. She was my spirit animal growing up because she was stuck in pink and stuff but definitely had alt kids vibes and I felt like that was me growing up.
Don't take my goth card but I never watched grim adventures 😔 - Conor
@@RandomGothCouple I'll be nice and not revoke it but I'm watching you lol
@@RandomGothCouple as a fan of Grim Adventures, I’m telling you that you gotta watch it.
@@RandomGothCouple Grim Adventures is pretty amazing, I loved the show - Voltaire even wrote a song for one of the episodes!
Absolutely loved Mandy! The cartoon was a lot of fun.
The burn down hot topic song was playing in my head the entire time you were reviewing the South Park goths
Lynn: “Vampires are real”
Connor: …. 【•】_【•】…. “Yup”!!
raven was my whole childhood crush not gonna lie
I always wanted to know the opinion of more goths about our representation in cartoons haha it's always nice to see your videos guys! You two look amazing 🖤🦇
@Kayla Barco I never watched that piece of media since I'm not American or a native English speaker but I love their design!
Thank you 💀
@@RandomGothCouple I'm super happy you two answered me! You're welcome 🖤
Gwen from Total Drama was one of the main reasons for why I wanted to learn more about the goth subculture and its music. It’s so weird that I owe my music and fashion sense to one fictional character.
Wouldn't Creepy Girl be the darkest goth due to her sadistic nature?
The creators said that Gwen listen emo music
@@gohanlopez5330 “creepy girl” did not exist in the original total drama island…
@@glasspixie8229 I think it was "Scary Girl" that was her name
Ur down bad af 🫵
I think Trent from Daria has a bauhaus and sisters of mercy poster in his room too
I wanted to be Lydia Deetz growing up as a kid. And I loved the Beetlejuice tv series. It was so much fun.
Same
I really liked "I Feel Sick", I was hoping there would be more issues, but sadly there was not. Also I like Conner's new hair style, it suits him well.
Same! There was potential to make an interesting series or anthology out of it! And thank you 🦇
I was definitely rooting for hex girls from scooby doo, Definitely happy with the new ideas for editing profile picture images hehe
Misery from ruby gloom gave off some really cool vibes, do have a look at her 🥺
"Growing Up Creepie" is a Favorite Goth show of ours. Both Stylized and Educational! :)
Same here. I grew up watching that show after school with my older brother. Creepie was my role model back then and today.
I came into comments to write this here, yes.
I'd say Creepie is underrated, but it has Addams family vibe and you learn also a thing or two about bugs.
Finally! People that actually know about Creepie!! Any time I reference that show, nobody knows what I'm talking about; she was so freaking cute with her multicolored hair and stripey tights, and the sound of her walking! I wish more people grew up with her :(
I loves that show so much growing up it was amazing I came to the comments to write the same thing! As someone who loves all kinds of bugs I just loved the show and she definatly inspired me
While I'm disappointed that Lucy Loud didn't make the list since she's my most favorite goth of all-time, I am glad that you included the goth kids from South Park since I am a really big fan of both South Park and the goth kids.
I hope you guys did the vampire goths from Scooby-Doo. "Hex Girls" are an iconic female metal band. Love them.
Lmao you did.
i know this is a whole two years late but omg, gwen from total drama is how i got into the goth subculture and she will always have a special place in my heart 😭 and i love crimson and ennui ofc
New video notification from Random Goth Couple, me - *drops everything to watch it straight away* Hoping the goth kids from South Park get a mention, Raisins is one of my favourite episodes! 🖤
Ay thank you we appreciate you! 🦇 And I agree they're the best! - Conor
I still watch Beetlejuice The Animated Series regularly. Animated Lydia is arguably more goth than movie Lydia in my opinion. Love both versions of her though! I’m glad Conor stepped down from debating her goth status. It was a wise decision 😂💀.
I love this video theme though! Great job guys!
I grew up watching Ruby Gloom and reading Emily the Strange. Another lesser known goth comic is Nemi, it's a Norwegian comic series, kind of strange but I enjoyed it
Total Drama Goth dude looks like BoyInABand (Dave) LOL [please look into Shego she is amazballs]
Also on a different note great new track from MUNRO - Looking good Conor. 🖤🤘🏻🖤
Thanks so much Amy! Will deffo check out shego haha
Conor is right. The South Park goths deserve s tier. We do literally know these kids lol they're not the best representation of the entire goth Community but they definitely are a realistic portrayal of a part of it
About Misa from Death Note, she truly got on my nerves, but she had one moment that was TRULY ADORABLE... It was that moment when Light & L were handcuffed together, and (if I remember correctly) they got into a fight & Misa broke up the fight & told them that since they were working on a common goal (finding "Kira" wink ;) wink ;) wink ;) ), that they should all be friends! And then she gave L a kiss on the cheek that shocked him (along with having "friends" ) and then they all danced around like "ring around the Rosie. It was so stupid... and yet so cute seeing all 3 of them getting along so well. LOL!
For live action, the entire cast of What We Do In The Shadows is top #1 for me! I love Nadja and Laszlo especially.
One of my favorite shows 2
I absolutely LOVED the movie, but I couldn't get into what I saw of the show. :C I'll have to give it another try at some point.
You have no clue how happy I was when I saw gaz, Jane, and the sp both kids on there. They’re from my favorite shows ever😭😭
Ennui and crimson! Didn't expect to see them, glad they're on here❤ also love conners new hair🖤
Wow, the moment I saw Conor's hair I was so amazed, he should keep doing that hair cut because it looks amazing!!!!
Thank you so much 💀
Actually Trent Jayne brother actually has a sisters of mercy poster so he’s definitely goth inclined on top of his style of music his band plays.
Hii guys! I really love your vids 🖤 Lots of love from Greece :)
Thank you so much! 🦇
You guys are very cool! And indeed the South Park and Total Drama kids are S tier.
New sub! Love your content - I really loved hearing Lynn speak about the South Park goth thing and how gate keeping is an unfortunate part of alt subcultures we should try to let go of ❤️ also I recently found my Emily the strange comic book I thought I lost and was overjoyed ❤️ looking forward to binging your content 🖤🐈⬛🐀🖤👻
Ruby Gloom was actually made out of the college I attended, Sheridan College in Canada! Super cool to see you folks know who Ruby Gloom is and highly recommend you watch even 1 or 2 of the cartoons as they’re super short and grand. And you also know Mona the vampire!?!? I love you two but this video pulls me in further 🖤
Also the South Park goth kids are so top tier everyone should be knocked a ranking down and the South Park goth kids be the only ones in a tier🙌
I was not ready for that Officer Doofy reference. Too damn funny!
I love Frankie from Monster High! She is very cute! I love her personality. Her clothing would be considered goth. Her music taste would probably be whatever her friends are listening to so there may be some Gothic music in there!
Also Draculaura and MelissaBat
I actually like your haircut though, it's cool!🖤
I think Connors hair style suits him and you guys are my biggest style inspirations🖤🖤🖤🖤
Thank you so much 🦇🖤🦇🖤🦇
I NEED GOOD INSPO FOR MALE GOTH OUTFITS WITHOUT LOOKING TOO TOO OUT THERE, thank you x
Can’t wait to watch this when I get home. :) goth characters are so fun! My favs for sure are the goths from South Park and Raven from teen Titans. She’s pretty darkly. 🖤
I agree with Lynn for the most part. But I do agree with Conor when it comes to Misa. I always thought that Jane from Daria was more grunge. You guys are sweethearts. 🖤
trey and matt need to be credited for how much they study cultures to respect the culture. For that they should get S for the representation alone. feel like lydia should be A if it was movie lydia I could see an S tier.
Great video. Another one I liked was Lenore. Its mainly a comic but I think there were short cartoons based on those.
Thank you! Ah Lenore! That just unlocked a memory!
I feel like Lenore the Cute Little Dead Girl should’ve been on this
Yes!
Trey Parker and Matt Stone must’ve either drawn from personal experience or they knew goths like that.
As a man who grew up in the 90's I am loving this. You guys remind me of the old school goths I went to school with in the 90's..when it was at its height. I always used to love hanging out with the goth kids..they were cool with me and had a chill vibe. I'm 38 fyi..not sure how old you guys are but I appreciate this a lot. I dig your style btw..awesome.
Triana Orpheus is voiced my someone who used to sing for a goth band and I remember they put some ( sometimes knock off, to avoid copyright) bauhaus posters in her bedroom. also honorable mention ,no goth characters, but the cure did write the intro song for dragon hunters
Danny Phantom was tight
It wasn't actually until recently when she showed up in memes that I saw how gothy she was.
So, either that's just not something that stuck with me at the time, or it wasn't a big part of her character.
Go check out the show though.
I haven't actually seen it since I was younger, but I feel like it holds up. The theme song definitely does .
That was a tune 🎶
I had a look at some compilations and she was a complete mood and did deserve to be higher up on the list. And shes got nugoth vibes for sure!
That show was where I first heard the term "goth" as a kid haha
@@RandomGothCouple I'm actually considering going back and checking it all again some time. I don't know if I even saw every episode of it when it aired
That movie came out before I was born, like a year or two to save anyone reading this from feeling too old, but even I couldn't agree more. I wanna be like and with the Hex Girls
Hex girls are the peak, we haven't gotten anything better since!
South Park Goth Kids should have been ‘S’ tier.
They were the most legit goth representation you’re gonna get.
Emily the Strange and Edger & Ellen were my favorite growing up.
I'm from Canada so maybe it's a regional thing cause we're the same age but I knew all of the characters. I did really like ruby gloom but I was absolutely the emily the strange kid.
I wanted the Emily the strange guitar so badly 😅
Raven, Hex Girls and Gewn from TDI. Oh boy 👀 Plus that clip from Scary Movie made me laugh.
I know sly Cooper 2 isn't a cartoon by any means.
But it's a cartoon video game.
There's this character that fills in a lot with the environment of goth style, The contessa .
She has her own Gothic Castle in a rainy environment and it's just spot on .
I feel like it could fit in as an honorable mention maybe .
Or a video of gothic Videogame characters probably.
I've been in the scene for 32 years and have met the South Park goths in the 1990s, 2000s, 2010s and 2020s (and see no sign of this changing in future decades) - definite S-tier!
One Goth girl nobody seems to remember is Kylie from "Extreme Ghostbusters". She was the only female Ghostbuster on that team.
Back then they actually gave characters a personality and value and weren't just tokens.
Raven is definitely the most "gothic" without necessarily being 80s "goth." Her dad is literally satan (ok, Trigon, but still, lol). She is into the dark macabre stuff (literature, films, poetry, art) and actively practices magic. She was once reading an old occult tome and brought a malevolent dragon back to life on accident and there was that one time she was going to bring about the end of the world against her will... everyone else pales in comparison, imo, lol. Although as far as actual "real life" goth representation... South Park definitely wins.
Was way too old to get into total drama, but the compilations I've seen on the goths makes them the best. Also agree to the south park goths being spot on, I knew so many kids like that in high school lmao
If your goth, Gwen doesn't compared to Creppy Girl.
While I've been interested into metal/goth music and general "dark" stuff since I was a kid, fashion wise I was quite plain with next to 0 interest in my look until I saw Death Note and is in great merit thanks to Misa that I started to try and experiment more with my fashion and I started to dress goth/alternative and now I'm at the point where if I pick any random clothing item in my closet there are good chances I could make a Misa inspired outfit with it
but I do understand perfectly how aside from her clothes styles she is far form being a "real" goth so while I would have liked her at a higher place I'm fine with B
I agree with this list, for the most part - but I do have to agree with Connor on the case of the Goth Kids, they are real accurate to some extent, behaviour & personality and all. (I've met & somehow befriended a few kids like them myself)
South Park Goth Kids are definitely S tier. Posers or not, that was literally every goth in my high school.
THis is a spot on list good stuff and cool video idea stay awesome random goth couple!
South Park Goths need their own show! And the purple creepers!! I love them.
Great hair Connor
Also, I haven't watched this yet, and if my homies the goth kids from south park aren't high tier we'll have a problem
*after watch edit: thanks😁
Thanks so much! South Park goths were robbed 🤬 haha
@@RandomGothCouple I like em so much. They symbolise not only my humour but also the most me kind of "mood" one could possibly create. I don't think they make all goths look like elitists necessarily, they're just kids who need something so meaningfull in their life to compensate their problems amd negative thoughts that they take it too seriously and want to look at it as some sort of state of perfection, and anything other than what goth is in their eyes feels like a personal attack to them. I relate to that a lot because I compensate by treating something I'm into like a way of life or part of my identity a *lot*. Maybe thats what elitists do as well. Some people just need that meaningfullnes in their lives.
Lucy Loud is S tier. She sleeps in a coffin. Mandy has that iconic misanthropy and her smile breaks the space-time continuum.
Great video! What about top stories? We gotta do a movie. Luv from Mozambique hahahahaha
Awh you guys are so cool!
Uhm if you haven’t already done it
A video idea is “reacting to old pictures of ourselves” cuz I find it so cool to see people who are alternative when they were younger.
And I saw a scene girl do it and it was so funny/cute cuz all the classic photos like the upper angle and style.
It’s just an idea if you haven’t already done it.
I’m also surprised you guys don’t have more subscribers cuz your content is so good :)
As far as favorite Goth characters I would say, 1. Rogue from X-Men Evolution, 2. X-23 from the more recent X-Men comics, and 3. Gwen from Total Drama.
I loved Rogue in X-Men Evolution!
Some of these characters are new to me, I grew up with Beetlejuice, JTHM, Death from Sandman,Hexgirls...all the 80s and 90s stuff.. It's nice seeing people accept Goth in the media,I'm kind of yes and no,conflicted; but, it gives kids now a positive look into an alternative lifestyle and positivity is good. I'm 40 and didn't give up my goth card yet 😆
Times have really changed,I really didn't think Goth was going to be a mainstream thing so it surprised me to see it more accepted.
Surprisingly, there are many interesting goth characters in cartoons.
Great video guys🖤🦇.Nice tee shirt conor bitt of an underrated film realy...I've got the advert tune in my head now🤭blessings.🦇🦇
Very underrated and the masks are iconic! 3 more days till halloween. Halloween. Halloween! Silver shamrock 🎃
@@RandomGothCouple That's the one!!. And stealing a stone from stone henge!!..I bet that didn't go in the back of a Ford transit. 🤭🖤🦇
I don't know if this Character is actually a Goth related Character, but how about Mandy, from Billy and Mandy. Mandy was so dark. Now, I get that most Goth (at least me) won't act that sinister. However, I fell in love with that Character Mandy. She was no joke!
Yeah, but she still wears a pink dress instead of black.
i would love to see you two do video game characters next !
Ohh that's a great idea! Thank you 🦇
Lynn is so sweet and I love both of your looks and Conors new hair doo!. Love your channel. I've only just discovered it.
I f***ing love your new hair cut it suits you, also I love your videos keep up the good work 🖤
My memory of the series is pretty fuzzy at this point, but I do remember liking Ruby Gloom when I was a really little kid
South park goths were the slightly toxic stereotypes, but realistic to have met them, but on a more important note Mona the Vampire
The original Raven from the comics was one of the inspiration for the early goth subculture, along with Death from Sandman.
I replayed that Officer Doofy clip way too many times.
“I said don’t disturb me when I’m cleaning my room!!”
thoughts on Re-L Mayer from the anime ergo proxy?
One of the South Park creators is probably the BIGGEST Cure fan (hence why Robert Smith beat Mecha-Streisand), which is why I think the South Park Goths are so realistic.
I looove Ruby gloom, I used to watch it on TV while preparing to go school.... Totally goth influence for me😂
You guys did really well putting the characters into tiers as it is really hard to do when it comes to cartoonage.
Oh my hubby he's a subscriber to your channel 'Killer clown' (used to be johnny the clown) is really excited for Munro coming to Glasgow during the tour Conor 🙌 he can't wait to see you guys blow the roof off should have heard him when he found out about it he's such a big fan of you all, I hope 🙏 you guys have a great tour conor
Hi Lynn 😀🙌 your awesome too 🙂
I like your new hair cut Conor!
Love the video🖤
Thank you!! 🦇
honestly, I think south park goths are most realistic goths but in a very exaggerating way. this is probably how yk others see us and during the start of getting into goth i was one edgy mf when I remember that I get the ick a little
I was the only goth person at my school. All my friends were emo, skaters and metal heads lolz.
Raven is my favorite character of all time. She is half human and half demon.
Not surprised creepy susie didnt make the list but i kinda wish she had
We only found out about her in the last few years! Love the show but for some reason didn't grow up with it!
@@RandomGothCouple the oblongs wasnt well received by the networks it was on, got cancelled after a season, but susie had a couple anthology books with her in it so thats nice
_You guys nailed some of my favorites in the tiers..._
_My top pick is "Lust" from Fullmetal Alchemist_
_...Rowr such a Waifu for laifu !_
personal preference is mysery over ruby but that pretty well tops my childhood
Don't worry about the hair. My hair was super long and the humidity and the warmth made my scalp go ham and I had to cut it all off. It doesn't look bad, I just miss the long hair.
Jane is way more expressive than Daria who is truly monotonous jaja
I think they’re grunge (also the time period)
but dudees
Jane’s brother, Trent had band posters all over his room;bauhaus, the sisters of mercy, Daria had some kafka one and her walls were covered in asylum cushions.
It’s a lot of dry humor but I think Daria is alt. Dry humor gold
(Just sharing my opinion not judging tier!)