Game Theory's Erica's Word promo video(Enigma Records). Scott Miller Game Theory Loud Family Gil Ray Shelley LaFreniere Donnette Thayer Gui Gassuan Suzi Ziegler
I remember going to see these guys at the Music Machine in the mid-80s. Before the show, I went and talked to them and they were astonished that I knew all of their names. I said, "I am a huge fan! Why wouldn't I know your names?" Myself, I was astonished that they were so unassuming. It was obvious they were not from L.A. At the end of their set, they announced they were out of songs. I yelled out "Rayon Drive!" Scott said, "Oh yeah, we know that!" So we all got to hear one more song. That was the last song I ever saw Scott Miller play live. RIP
Love(d) this band. I was a promoter/club manager back in the late'80s and had the pleasure of booking GT at my San Jose club in 86/87. Scott and band were totally cool (and professional), put on a great show and Donnette left an impression;) A few years later I was in Chicago, noticed they were appearing at a nightclub in the area and scored guest passes for the gig. Felt a little cheap for the request but what the hell, it was the 90's
Scott's passing breaks my heart. I had the pleasure of meeting him on the Attractive Nuisance tour. He even let me pick out a few songs for the set list that night. It's always nice when you get to meet one of your heroes...and they turn out to be a nice person. R.I.P. Scott. Thanks for all the wonderful music.
I promoted what I believe was GT's only two Canadian shows in Vancouver. First show was a sold-out house on a Sunday night at the Town Pump on the Lolita Nation Tour - they blew the place away. The second time was a few years later at a cavernous night club called 86 Street - and this time with a different lineup - one that featured the great Michael Quercio on bass - it snowed a blizzard that night and only 100 people showed up. I lost my shirt. Scott Miller a talented dude.
RIP Scott. Your music didn´t go that unnoticed, it arrived here in Spain late in the 80´s and I immediately fell in love with it, and I lent a BSC tape to some friends to share those amazing songs. Thanks for the beauty you brought.
Scott lives in many of us. He made his place. Donnette Thayer keeps coming up in all of this stuff. Shelley LaFreniere was about as cool as any musician could have been. Her filling parts were cooler than cool. Then you have We Love You, Last Day, Throwing...etc... Essential stuff. The woman should get more credit than she does.
Rest in peace, Scott. It was an honor to listen to your genius and to hang out with you at a couple of shows. One of my personal heroes, gone far too young.
The fact this song wasn't a huge hit says a lot more about the idiots who buy records than it ever could about the band. RIP Scott, I'll miss you for the rest of my life.
Of course, this is a tremendous song as are many that have the Scott Miller touch. Although, if I had to place this song in a Game Theory/Loud Family ranking it wouldn't even be in my top twenty. Scott Miller was that good at crafting music and lyrics. His songs are paintings...that's why we can look at them for hours on end and never tire. And yes, GT/LF are under appreciated even now. To me, it is astounding that a song such as We Love You Carol and Alison has fewer the 2500 hits and Jimmy Still Comes Around has fewer than 800!!
The song that made me a lifelong fan as soon as I heard it. I got it on an Enigma Sampler compilation CD. Still a great song! Great music from Scott Miller and Company.
Just learned that he died on Monday- Rest In Peace. It is amazing the range his music had, and the inspiration that his music had in a lot of other artist.
Scott Miller. (April 4, 1960 - April 15, 2013), Game Theory + The Loud Family + Alternate Learning. Gil Ray. (September 17, 1956 - January 24, 2017), Game Theory + The Loud Family + Rain Parade.
So many favorites from Scott Miller but this one is at the top - Scott will be deeply missed but his music truly remains. Make sure you check out his 2010 book on Amazon, "Music: What Happened?"
Tossup? Bah. Until today, I'd never once heard the name Scott Miller or Game Theory or Loud Family. This is the second tune I've listened to (after "Don't Respond, She Can Tell") and based on this song and that, I'd enthusiastically declare your latter ("pop/rock geniuses") option. Whichever, I find the fact that he/they were so far under the radar as to be invisible/inaudible to be shocking and outrageous. And a categorical damnation of 'the music biz'.
Speaking of goodbye to all that, I just remembered that I first learned of Game Theory when I read about this song in The Gavin Report. I didn't even know they were local (even though I lived just a few blocks away from Big Shot Photo) until I picked up Lolita Nation and saw that the girl I bought coffee from every day was playing keyboards. (Later, there was a picture of the band clipped from the newspaper on the espresso machine. Still later, someone drew an X over Donnette's face.)
Scott, it was the anniversary of your death not long ago and I thought about you all day. I love you and you mean the world to me. I think of your lyrics daily.
I also recommended at that time to my regular customers The Spoons, The Church, Icehouse, and if you could get past their "hit," Modern English. Great stuff that doesn't need to make a statement about your street cred, your posse, or whose name is on your hightops... just intelligent music that's still okay for a front-porch rainy-day barbecue. I also liked The Call and The Railway Children, who showed quality but not so much quantity.
This was such a great album... so many stupid record companies, profits above the art. I miss Game Theory, they should've been huge. the payback is that the big record companies will be GONE in a few years... who needs a record contract? record it, promote it, release it yourself... there are enough indies that will do distribution deals without getting their fingers into the production/direction of the band.
Hmmm, Peter Bucks, who was more recently playing with Steve Wynn in the Baseball Project....a 80s dream lineup would be Game Theory and Dream Syndicate. Peter Buck would like it almost as much as I would.
Game Theory, "back in the day." I was in that day, proudly. Two Steps from the Middle Ages is the keeper. I felt Lolita Nation should never have been a double album, even though the most pale tracks offered would still eclipse most bands nowadays that charge $20, play for an hour at best, and rarely put out more than two albums with consistent value. 1> 24 2> Erica's Word 3> Rolling with the Moody Girls 4> Shark Pretty 5> Penny, Things Won't
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RIP Scott. The genius who was humble enough to credit himself responsible for "Miserable Whine" instead of "Lead Vocals."
the most underrated band ever. Scott Miller wrote some of the most beautiful melodies of all time. Those late 80s Game Theory albums are all timeless.
I remember going to see these guys at the Music Machine in the mid-80s. Before the show, I went and talked to them and they were astonished that I knew all of their names. I said, "I am a huge fan! Why wouldn't I know your names?" Myself, I was astonished that they were so unassuming. It was obvious they were not from L.A. At the end of their set, they announced they were out of songs. I yelled out "Rayon Drive!" Scott said, "Oh yeah, we know that!" So we all got to hear one more song. That was the last song I ever saw Scott Miller play live. RIP
Top shelf songwriting here.
And a new killer hook every 10 seconds. Pure pop perfection.
R.I.P. Scott Miller
Love(d) this band. I was a promoter/club manager back in the late'80s and had the pleasure of booking GT at my San Jose club in 86/87. Scott and band were totally cool (and professional), put on a great show and Donnette left an impression;) A few years later I was in Chicago, noticed they were appearing at a nightclub in the area and scored guest passes for the gig. Felt a little cheap for the request but what the hell, it was the 90's
Scott's passing breaks my heart. I had the pleasure of meeting him on the Attractive Nuisance tour. He even let me pick out a few songs for the set list that night. It's always nice when you get to meet one of your heroes...and they turn out to be a nice person. R.I.P. Scott. Thanks for all the wonderful music.
ughh i love this band sooo much. Scott Miller was an absolute GENIUS when it came to pop hooks.
I lent out my Game Theory cassette to a friend and never got it back, that's how good they were! :)
I promoted what I believe was GT's only two Canadian shows in Vancouver.
First show was a sold-out house on a Sunday night at the Town Pump on the Lolita Nation Tour - they blew the place away. The second time was a few years later at a cavernous night club called 86 Street - and this time with a different lineup - one that featured the great Michael Quercio on bass - it snowed a blizzard that night and only 100 people showed up. I lost my shirt. Scott Miller a talented dude.
RIP Scott. Your music didn´t go that unnoticed, it arrived here in Spain late in the 80´s and I immediately fell in love with it, and I lent a BSC tape to some friends to share those amazing songs. Thanks for the beauty you brought.
Scott lives in many of us. He made his place.
Donnette Thayer keeps coming up in all of this stuff.
Shelley LaFreniere was about as cool as any musician could have been.
Her filling parts were cooler than cool. Then you have We Love You, Last Day, Throwing...etc... Essential stuff. The woman should get more credit than she does.
One my favorite songs from the 80s. It is a perfect pop rock song. Scott was brilliant.
Rest in peace, Scott. It was an honor to listen to your genius and to hang out with you at a couple of shows. One of my personal heroes, gone far too young.
The fact this song wasn't a huge hit says a lot more about the idiots who buy records than it ever could about the band. RIP Scott, I'll miss you for the rest of my life.
Of course, this is a tremendous song as are many that have the Scott Miller touch. Although, if I had to place this song in a Game Theory/Loud Family ranking it wouldn't even be in my top twenty. Scott Miller was that good at crafting music and lyrics. His songs are paintings...that's why we can look at them for hours on end and never tire. And yes, GT/LF are under appreciated even now. To me, it is astounding that a song such as We Love You Carol and Alison has fewer the 2500 hits and Jimmy Still Comes Around has fewer than 800!!
We Love You Carol and Alison
Best song ever? Yeh ...why not!
The song that made me a lifelong fan as soon as I heard it. I got it on an Enigma Sampler compilation CD. Still a great song! Great music from Scott Miller and Company.
Scott Miller is one of the most grossly underrated/criminally unknown songwriters ever.
Just learned that he died on Monday- Rest In Peace. It is amazing the range his music had, and the inspiration that his music had in a lot of other artist.
love this, great song, great days, . . .
Thank you for the music, Scott. You are missed!
Been looking for game theory for months now, THANKS. Still holds up today!
Scott Miller. (April 4, 1960 - April 15, 2013), Game Theory + The Loud Family + Alternate Learning.
Gil Ray. (September 17, 1956 - January 24, 2017), Game Theory + The Loud Family + Rain Parade.
Always loved this; had and lost the L.P. Thank you so much for posting.
Thanks for posting this, I'd forgotten how much I used to love Game Theory...
"Your beautiful longing world unwound."
Tom Marcinko i
Might be their best song....but there are so many greats....
I dig the Mission of Burma type riff in there.
So many favorites from Scott Miller but this one is at the top - Scott will be deeply missed but his music truly remains. Make sure you check out his 2010 book on Amazon, "Music: What Happened?"
Tossup? Bah.
Until today, I'd never once heard the name Scott Miller or Game Theory or Loud Family. This is the second tune I've listened to (after "Don't Respond, She Can Tell") and based on this song and that, I'd enthusiastically declare your latter ("pop/rock geniuses") option.
Whichever, I find the fact that he/they were so far under the radar as to be invisible/inaudible to be shocking and outrageous. And a categorical damnation of 'the music biz'.
Loving the lead's shirt.
meilleur groupe indépendant des années 80 !
Rest in Peace Scott Miller.
the club is open
Goodbye Scott, RIP
Love this!
RIP Scott Miller.
Inventive and rockin'
Love this song, would kill for that tone.
I miss you, Scott!
Speaking of goodbye to all that, I just remembered that I first learned of Game Theory when I read about this song in The Gavin Report. I didn't even know they were local (even though I lived just a few blocks away from Big Shot Photo) until I picked up Lolita Nation and saw that the girl I bought coffee from every day was playing keyboards. (Later, there was a picture of the band clipped from the newspaper on the espresso machine. Still later, someone drew an X over Donnette's face.)
Listen to the catalogue, please. It's only about 2 hours; then comment again. And then love life again.
Good advice! Been listening since 85 or so with Real Nighttime. Gutted ever since I heard he passed!
Scoff all you like about the hair and threads -- that's a great song.
I first heard this song back in 10th grade in 1989. Didn't know who sang it then, the just the title. Damn, You Tube is so good!
ignore the bad hair and sets...they're a great band. He wrote some of the best melodies in pop music.
Sad to hear of his passing.
Just heard of Scott Miller's passing. : ( rip Scott.
Seems to me this was a musical breath of fresh air for the 80s, rather than casualties of anything.
RIP Scott.
Scott, it was the anniversary of your death not long ago and I thought about you all day. I love you and you mean the world to me. I think of your lyrics daily.
Aw, Scott looks so young...!
@soundboy3 hey they were huge for us -gotta be grateful
I also recommended at that time to my regular customers The Spoons, The Church, Icehouse, and if you could get past their "hit," Modern English. Great stuff that doesn't need to make a statement about your street cred, your posse, or whose name is on your hightops... just intelligent music that's still okay for a front-porch rainy-day barbecue.
I also liked The Call and The Railway Children, who showed quality but not so much quantity.
So sad you are gone. Only the good die young,
this band defantly fell between the cracks i love this song even after all these years
This was such a great album... so many stupid record companies, profits above the art. I miss Game Theory, they should've been huge.
the payback is that the big record companies will be GONE in a few years... who needs a record contract? record it, promote it, release it yourself... there are enough indies that will do distribution deals without getting their fingers into the production/direction of the band.
Some unknown X behind the Y...
Are they playing inside Pee-Wee's Playhouse?
Hmmm, Peter Bucks, who was more recently playing with Steve Wynn in the Baseball Project....a 80s dream lineup would be Game Theory and Dream Syndicate. Peter Buck would like it almost as much as I would.
@DavePerry2012 : Don't look, just listen, and you'll know -- great band, and Scott Miller is a peerless pop songwriter.
@DavePerry2012 It's their sartorial crapness that makes them so excellent though!
Donnette made this band brilliant. Wish she had vocals. Hex proved her vocal brilliance. But seriously underrated.
altho, to be fair, the album this song is on - The Big Shot Chronicles - was recorded before Donnette joined the band.
Otra rola que solo sonó en Rock 101 FM México 80s >>> (Viñeta FL)
Game Theory, "back in the day."
I was in that day, proudly.
Two Steps from the Middle Ages is the keeper. I felt Lolita Nation should never have been a double album, even though the most pale tracks offered would still eclipse most bands nowadays that charge $20, play for an hour at best, and rarely put out more than two albums with consistent value.
1> 24
2> Erica's Word
3> Rolling with the Moody Girls
4> Shark Pretty
5> Penny, Things Won't
sounds good to me.
Who thinks Scott Miller looks like Brendan Benson?
shurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs
probably the gayest band I ever liked