@@curtisfriley8853He never stopped caring. Everything he did, he did to get back to his son. So he still cared very much. He just became ruthless about everything he had to do to get his son back.
Not to mention the two women he loved betrayed him. Both meela and Cora..albeit Cora did truly love him she loved power more. Rumple had power for so long he felt it was the only thing that would stay.
wait, Rumple has fangirls ? like, I get liking him as a character, he's literally my favourite in the show, but FANGIRLING? (although, I might not understand because I'm not a girl)
True, but that would be unfair to rumple and his character arc. He could change back but he would hate belle for different reasons than was originally written. First for attempting to love him and now secondly for actually taking away his power. Her kissing him to change him without consent could have ended their relationship then and there forever, in my opinion. He was not mentally prepared to be weakened without knowing it was happening. Sure, it would have “killed” a powerful character, but would end their character arc far too unfairly and abruptly
Rumple: Why did you come back? Belle: I wasn't going to then something changed my mind... I always saw that as a hint, that Belle's love wasn't quite True Love, because she only came back to try to break the curse, not because she loved him. And that means Belle was equally as responsible for the kiss not working. It was close, but neither of them could fully commit to their love.
this is so true! it really helps shows that this isnt saying that the situation they were in bred perfect happy love-it was imbalanced unhealthy love that came from a good place but wasnt sustainable, and it shows in how Rumple cant reconcile with his own issues, and how Belle wasnt fully in love with him bc she couldnt be, not with who he was and what he was doing, and she wanted to forcibly change that, change HIM into a version she could love and that isnt sustainable either. I love them because they dont miraculously end up together after this, it takes a lot past this first stage of their romantic feelings for them to actually truly love each other and Thats how you write a good complicated romance
I already posted this on another Rumbelle video, but do you realize their love was so strong it was about to break THE DARK ONE curse? This isn’t just some run-of-the-mill curse, this is the darkest of all dark curses, and centuries old to boot. When he kissed her in the dream with Morpheus/Gideon, I wonder if it would’ve worked if she didn’t stop it. And he only needed his magic to find his son, not selfish reasons this time.
i live for this scene so much the more i watch the more i see how much thought was put into showing just how broken and self sabotaging Rumple really is. The way he screams at the mirror is obviously plot wise him yelling at the Evil Queen bc he knows she has the Genie and her mirrors and shit but the way it so beautifully symbolically shows the way hes yelling at HIMSELF bc it is HIS fault, HES the one pushing Belle away, hes the one who is “turning her against him” and its just SO PAINFUL AND WELL DONE
The smart thing would’ve been to continue as they were, until rumple would eventually kiss her himself. If that had been allowed to happen, it’s possible he would have been more reasonable and realized that he was loved in return, and broken the curse without all the back and forth. However, that’s not to say he wouldn’t still have been power hungry and made the same choices anyways
I wish Belle had been open with Rumple about her intentions here. Neither of them were likely to be rational, of course, and it probably would have ended much the same, but I doubt they would have kissed without both of them trying to break the curse. That would have left the option on the table for later. If Rumple was actually rational, he could have explained about Regina, and how likely it was that she would kill them, or at least capture them, almost immediately if the curse were lifted. How Rumple would never see his son again. How very Not Fun it might be to be a former Dark One - they may have been able to hide among peasantry, but Rumple as a crippled spinner and Belle as an outspoken female scholar were pretty obvious to anyone who wanted revenge on the Dark One. He may have been able to seek refuge with Jefferson or the Charmings... Maybe. But not likely. And Belle could have talked about love being worth the risk or planned with him when to break the curse, depending. It could have been So Much Better, because respect and honesty and openness is IMPORTANT. But no. 🤦
Fantastic acting. Sad to see the energy Robert Carlyle had slowly decline post season 5. Still perfect choice. This episode was fantastic as well to show a vulnerable side to Rumple as the Dark One, not the father Rumple, but THE Dark One, the most feared being in the forest Just to see him utterly freak out..chills man. Chills
For sure. To show how broken rumple is when it comes to love as the two women he gave his heart two betrayed him..one for adventure and the other for power.
despite loving Rumbelle but I never actually felt comfortable with the way Belle always acted around Rumple when they were in his castle. I mean you can say he took her as hostage(which isn't true cause first: what kind of business Rumple could have with the woman he doesn't even know, so he took her as hostage? and it was her choice and he didn't needed to force her, when he was living he showed that he doesn't care what decision she's gonna make about coming into his castle) and again if anyone was in Rumple's shoes in that scenario, could use Belle all he could, as a sexual slave or...but Rumple never had this kind of intentions about her, and true he did care for her as an innocent girl, protected her honor but none of it meant he had other intentions about her and kept her respect in that way. Belle on the other hand, never did the same thing about him, always talked to him in a flirting way, even if he wasn't interested, and didn't kept his respect in that way! and that was something I never felt comfortable about Belle's character in this storyline. if their genders were reversed, people would've called Belle a creepy guy.
I do not think so. we cannot speak of a "pure" relationship just becouse to the lack of sexual violence. He threw her into a dungeon, restricted her freedom, addressed her as if she were a baby, and shook her quite brutally. Moreover, she had limited contact with the outside world, so her contact was limited only to Rumlpestilskin, which is a typical cause of the Stockholm syndrome (unlike the Disney story, where Belle could view the relationship with the Beast through the prism of the relationship with the castle service). that belle was so ... flirting may be because she had head problems caused by the whole situation, or even for some other, prior reason; Belle had a soft spot for monsters before, before working in the castle. although Rumplestilskin also had a slightly distorted way of dealing with people due to his experience and around 200 years of alienation, which makes it not important whose point of view is taken - this account is extremely awkward (but let's face it - Rumplestilskin sucks more because belle was slightly disturbed , he was very disturbed and dangerous at the same time) in general, I think that both Mr. Gold and Mrs. Gold should have a loyalty card from Hopper. . . . . if in the above statement I used an inappropriate / grammatically incorrect / offensive phrase, sory, but the translation was helped by a dictionary that is not perfect.
@@ink5200 all you said were crap! head injury and... don't use that Stockholm Syndrome crap as excuse again. This episode only showed part of the blooming of their relationship, but later seasons and episodes proved that it took months to worm up to each other and Rumple treat her better which in Belle's case she started acting so weird and awkward towards him, things he didn't even wanted, despite carrying about her honor and safety.Rumple controlled himself about her, but she didn't.
@@altinaykor364 eh I always saw them as two people that weren't entirely aware that they were flirting. They grew to enjoy bantering with each other (I could always turn you into a toad) it sort of grew up naturally. Rumple was very aware of his attraction to Belle but I don't think Belle was feeling the courage to move or do anything in that area till after he had let her go. The only time I can see her pushing boundaries that Rumple wasn't comortable with was when she walked in on the remembrance for his son. Rumple was always awkward in the romance department but he did very much LIKE belle so I wouldn't say she wasn't controlling herself and making him uncomfortable. He was more made uncomfortable because he was having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that he was having feelings for someone.
@@102483989 i used to think like this but now i dont think like you. Maybe love is just a emotion. Maybe there is no true love or something like that or maybe there is love but people... people are bad. There is very little people which is good.
@@tolga555 There are many good people in this world, If we focus on the goodness in the people around us the goodness starts to grow! If you take a notebook and write down everyday the good things you notice even if its something as small as someone smiled at me today, the more you focus on this the more it will grow. I know people can be terrible but pay no attention to them just to be sorry that they are suffering and then turn your attention back to the goodness! Love is real, love is in fact the only thing that is truly real, truly genuine. Meanness or lack of love is only an illusion that people use when they are hurting, but in the end they are only love. I hope you find love someday if you have not yet keep faith even if the world gives you no proof that its possible dare to keep faith anyway! I hope you find love if you haven't yet!
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When he yelled that no one could ever love him, my heart ached a bit. It takes one hell of an actor to make you feel for the bad guy.
Well he was a good guy until the dagger and even then he was trying I think until he lost baelfire, then he stopped caring
@@curtisfriley8853He never stopped caring. Everything he did, he did to get back to his son. So he still cared very much. He just became ruthless about everything he had to do to get his son back.
Not to mention the two women he loved betrayed him. Both meela and Cora..albeit Cora did truly love him she loved power more. Rumple had power for so long he felt it was the only thing that would stay.
@@curtisfriley8853He became the dark one for the right reasons.
@@nickcarpenter3109 cora? 🤢
Rumple: "No one could ever, ever love me."
Every Rumple fangirl: "Bet."
Fr tho😵💫😵💫😵💫 I'm rewatching the series and I just passed this part thinking "I'd have loved you if you were real🥺🥺🥺🥺"
Dare accepted.
wait, Rumple has fangirls ? like, I get liking him as a character, he's literally my favourite in the show, but FANGIRLING? (although, I might not understand because I'm not a girl)
The actors are incredible
She should have just kissed him again instead of telling him
Belle is way too naive
Facts. Do a little bamboozle
True, but that would be unfair to rumple and his character arc. He could change back but he would hate belle for different reasons than was originally written. First for attempting to love him and now secondly for actually taking away his power. Her kissing him to change him without consent could have ended their relationship then and there forever, in my opinion. He was not mentally prepared to be weakened without knowing it was happening. Sure, it would have “killed” a powerful character, but would end their character arc far too unfairly and abruptly
@@MoMo-ke1iq Most importantly, it would dash all his plans of having the curse cast in order to reunite with Baelfire
Rumple: Why did you come back?
Belle: I wasn't going to then something changed my mind...
I always saw that as a hint, that Belle's love wasn't quite True Love, because she only came back to try to break the curse, not because she loved him.
And that means Belle was equally as responsible for the kiss not working. It was close, but neither of them could fully commit to their love.
I might use this explanation on my fic. I don't know if it counts as plagiarism, but if it does, can I use it ?
@@JabamiLain
You have my full permission friend! Also I'd love to read your fic, whenever you're ready to share. 😊
this is so true! it really helps shows that this isnt saying that the situation they were in bred perfect happy love-it was imbalanced unhealthy love that came from a good place but wasnt sustainable, and it shows in how Rumple cant reconcile with his own issues, and how Belle wasnt fully in love with him bc she couldnt be, not with who he was and what he was doing, and she wanted to forcibly change that, change HIM into a version she could love and that isnt sustainable either. I love them because they dont miraculously end up together after this, it takes a lot past this first stage of their romantic feelings for them to actually truly love each other and Thats how you write a good complicated romance
That…actually makes sense especially when he starts to transform but stops abruptly. Something is there between them, but needs time to grow.
This is one of my favourite kiss scenes of all time. 💞
I already posted this on another Rumbelle video, but do you realize their love was so strong it was about to break THE DARK ONE curse? This isn’t just some run-of-the-mill curse, this is the darkest of all dark curses, and centuries old to boot. When he kissed her in the dream with Morpheus/Gideon, I wonder if it would’ve worked if she didn’t stop it.
And he only needed his magic to find his son, not selfish reasons this time.
I love the show
2:31 just amazing
2:30 when you ask the teacher if you can go to the bathroom and she says "I don't know can you?"
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i live for this scene so much the more i watch the more i see how much thought was put into showing just how broken and self sabotaging Rumple really is. The way he screams at the mirror is obviously plot wise him yelling at the Evil Queen bc he knows she has the Genie and her mirrors and shit but the way it so beautifully symbolically shows the way hes yelling at HIMSELF bc it is HIS fault, HES the one pushing Belle away, hes the one who is “turning her against him” and its just SO PAINFUL AND WELL DONE
The smart thing would’ve been to continue as they were, until rumple would eventually kiss her himself. If that had been allowed to happen, it’s possible he would have been more reasonable and realized that he was loved in return, and broken the curse without all the back and forth. However, that’s not to say he wouldn’t still have been power hungry and made the same choices anyways
I wish Belle had been open with Rumple about her intentions here. Neither of them were likely to be rational, of course, and it probably would have ended much the same, but I doubt they would have kissed without both of them trying to break the curse. That would have left the option on the table for later.
If Rumple was actually rational, he could have explained about Regina, and how likely it was that she would kill them, or at least capture them, almost immediately if the curse were lifted.
How Rumple would never see his son again.
How very Not Fun it might be to be a former Dark One - they may have been able to hide among peasantry, but Rumple as a crippled spinner and Belle as an outspoken female scholar were pretty obvious to anyone who wanted revenge on the Dark One. He may have been able to seek refuge with Jefferson or the Charmings... Maybe. But not likely.
And Belle could have talked about love being worth the risk or planned with him when to break the curse, depending. It could have been So Much Better, because respect and honesty and openness is IMPORTANT.
But no. 🤦
Fantastic acting. Sad to see the energy Robert Carlyle had slowly decline post season 5. Still perfect choice.
This episode was fantastic as well to show a vulnerable side to Rumple as the Dark One, not the father Rumple, but THE Dark One, the most feared being in the forest
Just to see him utterly freak out..chills man. Chills
I wish this scene was a little later on the show, once we undertood a little more rumples back story with his wife and son
For sure. To show how broken rumple is when it comes to love as the two women he gave his heart two betrayed him..one for adventure and the other for power.
And his parents
This is why you should never come on to your boss 😂
Well she quit so no conflicts of interest 😅
Dang makes me wanna hug him 😢
Why didnt they just do this with emma when she wasnt fully a dark one but cursed, she still had hook
Emma did kiss hook but it didn't work....her hands were turning greenish.
Silver the Dark curse is unique among curses. One chooses to have it.
Maybe true love kiss would work in that way, that Rumple still would have powers but they wouldn't be so dark
They were both dark ones at the time so true loves kiss couldn’t work
Another mega plot hole the writers overlooked.
It's so sad this moment never happened again to actually change
despite loving Rumbelle but I never actually felt comfortable with the way Belle always acted around Rumple when they were in his castle. I mean you can say he took her as hostage(which isn't true cause first: what kind of business Rumple could have with the woman he doesn't even know, so he took her as hostage? and it was her choice and he didn't needed to force her, when he was living he showed that he doesn't care what decision she's gonna make about coming into his castle) and again if anyone was in Rumple's shoes in that scenario, could use Belle all he could, as a sexual slave or...but Rumple never had this kind of intentions about her, and true he did care for her as an innocent girl, protected her honor but none of it meant he had other intentions about her and kept her respect in that way. Belle on the other hand, never did the same thing about him, always talked to him in a flirting way, even if he wasn't interested, and didn't kept his respect in that way! and that was something I never felt comfortable about Belle's character in this storyline. if their genders were reversed, people would've called Belle a creepy guy.
I do not think so. we cannot speak of a "pure" relationship just becouse to the lack of sexual violence. He threw her into a dungeon, restricted her freedom, addressed her as if she were a baby, and shook her quite brutally. Moreover, she had limited contact with the outside world, so her contact was limited only to Rumlpestilskin, which is a typical cause of the Stockholm syndrome (unlike the Disney story, where Belle could view the relationship with the Beast through the prism of the relationship with the castle service). that belle was so ... flirting may be because she had head problems caused by the whole situation, or even for some other, prior reason; Belle had a soft spot for monsters before, before working in the castle.
although Rumplestilskin also had a slightly distorted way of dealing with people due to his experience and around 200 years of alienation, which makes it not important whose point of view is taken - this account is extremely awkward (but let's face it - Rumplestilskin sucks more because belle was slightly disturbed , he was very disturbed and dangerous at the same time)
in general, I think that both Mr. Gold and Mrs. Gold should have a loyalty card from Hopper.
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if in the above statement I used an inappropriate / grammatically incorrect / offensive phrase, sory, but the translation was helped by a dictionary that is not perfect.
@@ink5200 all you said were crap!
head injury and... don't use that Stockholm Syndrome crap as excuse again.
This episode only showed part of the blooming of their relationship, but later seasons and episodes proved that it took months to worm up to each other and Rumple treat her better which in Belle's case she started acting so weird and awkward towards him, things he didn't even wanted, despite carrying about her honor and safety.Rumple controlled himself about her, but she didn't.
@@altinaykor364 eh I always saw them as two people that weren't entirely aware that they were flirting. They grew to enjoy bantering with each other (I could always turn you into a toad) it sort of grew up naturally. Rumple was very aware of his attraction to Belle but I don't think Belle was feeling the courage to move or do anything in that area till after he had let her go. The only time I can see her pushing boundaries that Rumple wasn't comortable with was when she walked in on the remembrance for his son. Rumple was always awkward in the romance department but he did very much LIKE belle so I wouldn't say she wasn't controlling herself and making him uncomfortable. He was more made uncomfortable because he was having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that he was having feelings for someone.
He clearly was into her 😅
@@priscillajimenez27 not enough to let her in or jump into her and be comfortable with her nosiness and unasked flirting
BECAISE NO ONE. NO ONE COULD EVER EVER LOVE ME. I feel your pain rumple. The girls only feel pity for you and they never love you.
hi brother... hi...
You'll find true love some day, I promise, If you believe, it will find you somehow someway.
@@102483989 i used to think like this but now i dont think like you. Maybe love is just a emotion. Maybe there is no true love or something like that or maybe there is love but people... people are bad. There is very little people which is good.
@@tolga555 There are many good people in this world, If we focus on the goodness in the people around us the goodness starts to grow! If you take a notebook and write down everyday the good things you notice even if its something as small as someone smiled at me today, the more you focus on this the more it will grow. I know people can be terrible but pay no attention to them just to be sorry that they are suffering and then turn your attention back to the goodness! Love is real, love is in fact the only thing that is truly real, truly genuine. Meanness or lack of love is only an illusion that people use when they are hurting, but in the end they are only love. I hope you find love someday if you have not yet keep faith even if the world gives you no proof that its possible dare to keep faith anyway! I hope you find love if you haven't yet!
Except Belle DID love him. Take your pity party elsewhere and stop generalizing half the population
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Me ! Me !
it's ironic because the only reason the kiss could've worked is if belle actually loved him
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤Он моя любовь и мечта. Румпель это вы.
If Belle managed to break the curse. Who becomes the new dark one?
That kiss will be turn rumple a man again?
Yes. And that's because when he became the dark one he didn't know about the side effects. That's why the kiss was working at that moment.
The ship is nice but… why do I keep cringing
I think bc they have such different acting styles sometimes but they clash
Don’t Kiss At A Rumplestilsken
Their toxic relationships is the reason I stopped watching this show.
Same…it was nice at first but it got repetitive and toxic. And at some point the main plot got stupid