Breaking into a GunVault MicroVault (MV500-STD)

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024

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  • @simonordo2509
    @simonordo2509 10 лет назад +40

    Nice job, but I don't think it was designed to keep an adult man with hand tools out of it. It's designed to keep your personal protection firearm nearby without having it dangerously exposed to casual (i.e. children, untrained adults) observers. If you want to to truly secure valuables, you need an actual safe.

    • @tomwilliams1859
      @tomwilliams1859  9 лет назад +6

      Agreed, but I think lot of people who buy the "gun vault" don't see it as the same thing as a "safe". Considering that, I wanted to objectively see how difficult it was to get to the contents.

    • @meuswemeuswe5386
      @meuswemeuswe5386 8 лет назад +3

      Hence the name gun vault.

    • @Mordalo
      @Mordalo 6 лет назад

      post the link, I want to see that.

  • @martinohlmaier6467
    @martinohlmaier6467 9 лет назад +5

    My Gun Vault had a hinge and rod. I tapped the rod slightly out and pulled it out of the hinge with pliers. Separated the halves and out popped my pistol. It took less than one minute.

  • @andyprairiedog
    @andyprairiedog 6 лет назад +2

    Excellent. I've heard of angle grinders used to remove trailer hitches held in place with those lock-on keyed devices.....in less than a minute!!!! As with most safes....it takes time, knowledge and tools to get through but this seems to thwart the 'snatch-n-grab' types for sure. Thanks for showing.

  • @d4shkova
    @d4shkova 7 лет назад +5

    He looks like he's doing an infomercial showing the inferiority of the hand tools he's using. I was beginning to think he wasn't going to get the safe open after the two minute mark.

  • @shannonwomaje4123
    @shannonwomaje4123 8 лет назад +1

    As another poster said, these lockboxes are all the same in that they provide minimal and temporary storage for self-defense items detrimental to family members like children. A real dial-combination safe must be used for long-term storage (since all electronic or digital locking safes can easily be opened by using a 9v battery to send voltage to one of the four wires connecting the pad; or a strontium magnet to activate the solenoid close to the doors). You could use a pistol safe for a nightly routine of loading it and unloading it in the morning, to protect your kids or if someone sneaks in quietly, they wouldn't readily find the gun before you do. We don't have kids, so I modify that procedure by just simply placing my Ruger SR-45 beneath a pillow and returning it to the large gun safe diligently every morning. Since the slide is not yet pulled back, semi-autos are far safer than revolvers for that reason. Simple. Every one of these pistol lock boxes or safes are abysmal failures and represent a fatal liability at best, in that they sometimes fail to open because of battery issues when you need to most!

  • @TheOnespeedbiker
    @TheOnespeedbiker Год назад

    If you don't want to destroy your fault, Gunvault uses tubular locks which are very easy to pick. Do a search for tubular or circular lock pick, I recently bought a set of 3 from Walmart for $30. Once you open the lock (instructions on RUclips; even up the arms, push straight down into the lock and turn gently to the right; if it doesn't work the first time have patience and try again, I guarantee it will work). You can buy a new tubular lock for about $10 (with a key) and replace the original or continue to use the pick which will be set to the lock after it is used. The size is the same as a 5/8 mail box lock.

  • @jonmajarucon51
    @jonmajarucon51 Год назад

    Well, now I know that this safe is pretty tough. Thanks for sacrificing this piece of equipment but did you first check to see if your warranty was good? (Five years?) This company is excellent and they probably would have sent you a new Vault. Thanks again.

  • @robertjordan9770
    @robertjordan9770 8 лет назад +1

    Really, what this video proved to me is that kids would not get into it and even a thief would take than two minutes - and I don't think most thieves are gonna want to hang around fiddling with it for that long. EXCEPT for that cable. As other comments note, the unit is fine, even though it is thin steel, it is enough. EXCEPT FOR THAT CABLE. If they can cut the cable in 10 seconds, they can take the safe elsewhere and take their time. I actually think this video makes me think *for my needs* it might be enough.
    But I'd have to do two things: replace the tubular key mechanism and upgrade that weak cable.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 8 лет назад

      +Robert Jordan No, it didn't prove that kids won't get into it. He has tried to break it open on the metal which is the strong part. That's not what kids would do. Kids probably won't even have access to tools, and all of the tools on display are thick and unwieldy anyway, notice how there is no sawblade, no knife among the tools. Kids will probably use kitchen utensils and pieces of packaging, stiff plastic sheets, metal cans etc.
      Kids would try to peel back the rubber and soft plastic parts of the control pad. This may expose mounting holes, through which a release mechanism or the reset button may be accessed.
      Kids would try to probe the seam. They will find two spots along each side which are not sheathed, and which will again provide access to the reset button.
      It will take them a few days, but if they are bored enough, they will get in. Even preschoolers.
      Oh by the way, how was that rear hinge assembled? Perhaps it can be disassembled the way it came in?
      You notice, he does not attack any part that actually makes sense to attack.

    • @ncl420
      @ncl420 8 лет назад +1

      +Siana Gearz I really wish I didn't read your comment, I'm now convinced that idiots have outnumbered smart people. I challenge you to buy one, and test if kids or "preschoolers" could access it. If you you film it I'll even pay for it!

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 8 лет назад

      +ncl420 Please refer to videos by MARC TOBIAS, researcher of "Security Labs". There is one specifically with 3-year-olds opening gun safes. You will find that although these are not the same safes, the specific weaknesses exploited by children are the same as the ones exposed by security researchers. You will find a DEFCON 19 talk that demonstrates the weaknesses of this particular safe 8:40 into the video, and it doesn't look too bad, but i'm not sure i can make any firm conclusions. [EDIT: made a mistake here previously, i was remembering the video wrong]
      These products aren't readily available in my region, and aren't very cheap. I can get it over from UK for perhaps 250€, but will i ever get that money back? For a useless box? Besides, i'm not even sure whether someone will let me play with their preschoolers, i look like a raving lunatic, and doubly so by handing them a gun box and pointy implements.

  • @DecayingReality
    @DecayingReality 10 лет назад

    "Well is there anything else we wanna use? no? well its open anyways so fuck it"

  • @cyclelong
    @cyclelong Год назад

    That piano hinge on the back will probably be easy to drive the pin out of.

  • @Ron-im6mj
    @Ron-im6mj 3 года назад +1

    I got a great idea. Buy one of these and lock the screwdriver and hammer inside with the gun....lol

  • @Identity242
    @Identity242 10 лет назад +2

    I wonder if you had started with the hammer if it would have shorted it and popped right open.

  • @MrBoriqua2000
    @MrBoriqua2000 9 лет назад +8

    For the price you can't beat this safe. Criminals braking into your vehicle aren't going to spend all that time messing with it. They'll grab whats readily available and leave.

    • @Rekmeyata
      @Rekmeyata 4 года назад

      I disagree, if they see this gun vault in a car they will grab the vault and run home to open it. Wham bang thank you ma'am and it's gone.

    • @clutchcargo666
      @clutchcargo666 4 года назад

      @@Rekmeyata it comes with a cable you use to secure it to something. No wham bam

    • @Rekmeyata
      @Rekmeyata 4 года назад

      @@clutchcargo666 except a cable can be cut with a simple wire cutter or tin snips or even a good serrated knife

    • @clutchcargo666
      @clutchcargo666 4 года назад

      @@Rekmeyata well, That's a little more then just "grab the vault and run home". I use this in my car and cable to the seat frame. It's about as secure as you're going to get in that situation. It's also easy to take it into your hotel room and cable it to the bed frame on trips.

    • @Rekmeyata
      @Rekmeyata 4 года назад +1

      @@clutchcargo666 I agree it's about as secure as you can get for a portable safe, but it can't be misrepresented either, and cable is nothing to cut. The best in car safe I've seen came from the car manufactures that have an option you can select to have a safe put in the center console, but some are under the seat, those are not held in by a cable, they are bolted to the floor of the car, what I don't know about those is how secure the locking mechanism is, will a screwdriver pry one open? Probably your best bet is to throw the safe in the trunk when leaving the car, so it's out of sight and thus less appealing to a thief to get.

  • @gatesjuniorreloading3470
    @gatesjuniorreloading3470 4 года назад +1

    There you go, you're one of the guys out there that give kids information and ideas like this...

  • @Mark_Adams
    @Mark_Adams 5 лет назад

    Those safes were designed to keep honest people out not burglars with tools. If you're that worried about your guns being stolen then get you a much heavier safe and a home security system. A burglar isn't gonna stick around for the cops to arrive.

  • @notadiscussion
    @notadiscussion 10 лет назад +1

    I'm pretty sure you can just "shim" the MV500-STD. You might also be able to route to the locking and/or reset mechinism from the side (cable hole) or by removing the rubber around the key-pad.

    • @MattBlank0
      @MattBlank0 10 лет назад

      Agreed, there are much easier ways to get in that won't destroy it.

    • @tomwilliams1859
      @tomwilliams1859  9 лет назад

      Matt Blank Thats the point, the normal criminal that breaks into your house to steal items so he can feed his drug addiction will not be coming up with the most ingenious ways to get access the contents. They only want whats inside and don't care about destroying it. That is what I was trying to simulate.

    • @justkeepinitrealyo
      @justkeepinitrealyo 9 лет назад

      it cannot be shimmed. It is the same mechanism as a trunk-latch on a car, but at a 90 angle.

  • @tikkigodman
    @tikkigodman 10 лет назад +7

    Dennis Reynolds.

    • @JackedLobster
      @JackedLobster 10 лет назад

      Holy shit! I thought that, too! Haha.

    • @IcarusWrath
      @IcarusWrath 3 года назад

      He’s a golden god.

  • @gradyharrington4955
    @gradyharrington4955 8 лет назад +2

    "If the gloves don't fit,..."

  • @toni5886
    @toni5886 5 лет назад

    I had a "safe" with the exposed hinge like that one and my child was able to use something small to push the pin out of the hinge to open it from the back side. Doing it that way, I wasn't able to tell that he got into the safe. Can that method work on this safe?

    • @BloodStainedTear
      @BloodStainedTear 4 года назад

      no the pin sits just below the surface of the two halves.. you would need to dimple the metal to expose enough of the pin to slide it out.. would show obvious signs of tampering

  • @Upgrade-je9dj
    @Upgrade-je9dj 9 лет назад

    Gun Vault - 1) clamp cable to something "secure". 2) Drill bottom and bolt down to something that is bolted to the wall. 3) Have a security system. 4) Have back up gun safes and guns situated strategically around the room. 5)Have small dogs for advanced warning and as a deterrent. 6) Have a false wall with a secret door. 7) If a crook breaks in you should have time to get the drop on them, if not police are on their way, last resort you or your wife is hiding in the secret room packing heat while the burglar is busy with a "decoy" safe cuz the only thing in their is a gun and no mag or ammo.

  • @nicholasquintero1080
    @nicholasquintero1080 7 лет назад

    I had the same issue. The battery went dead and I lost the keys. If you would have started with the same flat head screwdriver and a hammer, pounded it into the hinged side, you would have been into it in half the time.

  • @exbladex99
    @exbladex99 9 лет назад +7

    IT DOESN'T MATTER if you can or cannot get into the safe. IT MATTERS THAT YOU CAN CUT THE CABLE. THE CROOKS WILL BREAK INTO YOUR CAR, CUT THE CABLE, RUN WITH THE SAFE AND YOUR WEAPON. Doesn't matter what happens after that as far as you are concerned.
    SECURITY LIES IN THE CABLE. IF THE CABLE SUCKS, YOUR SAFE SUCKS.

    • @tomwilliams1859
      @tomwilliams1859  9 лет назад

      That is why the first thing I tested was the cable and then I went back after to try cutting the cable with something else.

    • @justkeepinitrealyo
      @justkeepinitrealyo 9 лет назад +1

      This isn't a model that is suggested for a car, not sure why you mention that.
      They have bolt-down units for that.

    • @PlumbaJ
      @PlumbaJ 9 лет назад

      +Tom Williams
      can you replace the cable?

    • @PlumbaJ
      @PlumbaJ 9 лет назад

      +Jonathan Sragg
      with a better one

    • @kennethpayne6191
      @kennethpayne6191 8 лет назад

      +Logician but at least they can't shoot you with the contents

  • @saltfarmer3910
    @saltfarmer3910 5 лет назад

    The VAST majority of burglars want to get in and out as quick as possible, and probably wont have wire cutters on them. This will do fine unless they come pretty prepared and know what they are stealing. Not likely

  • @SoumiSenguptaBDS
    @SoumiSenguptaBDS 7 лет назад +1

    Maybe go straight to hammer...it took 5 or 6 blows..on the lock.Good to know..I lost my key!!

  • @bajabret60
    @bajabret60 10 лет назад

    I think they're really designed for travelling and inside cars. So the biggest flaw seems to be the cable. Must be an upgradable item for a few bucks at home depot or something, no?

    • @tomwilliams1859
      @tomwilliams1859  9 лет назад

      Good idea, but the problem is you would need to cut a larger whole in the box for the cable to go through. I think it would most likely be worth it though.

    • @bajabret60
      @bajabret60 9 лет назад

      Brandon Lima Ah,yes. Did not think of that.

  • @ltdan8671
    @ltdan8671 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for posting this. I appreciate the insight

  • @Mr.Mikey.Holiday
    @Mr.Mikey.Holiday 7 лет назад +1

    You can open that safe with a paper clip, and if you had registered the safe when you bout it the copany will ship you another key.

    • @bc_usa
      @bc_usa 7 лет назад

      Joseph Krone... Oops

    • @aqs33
      @aqs33 6 лет назад +1

      I saw a review video on Amazon where the guy had it open in 10 seconds with a paperclip. I bet the company is not happy that his video is the top result.

  • @mileage_master
    @mileage_master 9 лет назад +1

    A 3 yo old kid broke into that safe in 10 seconds

  • @1946jeeplover
    @1946jeeplover 4 года назад

    A lock only keeps an honest person out

  • @tinman1955
    @tinman1955 2 года назад

    I think you might have voided the warranty. 😁

  • @myontariowatch
    @myontariowatch 9 лет назад

    This made me laugh. Put that thing in a vice. 4lb maul. Split that open in 12 secs. Or you can use a vice with a wide spreader attachment. As for that cable, sharp hatchet is your best bet.

  • @NoGuff
    @NoGuff 9 лет назад

    All you need to do is pick that lock, takes less than 30 seconds.

  • @Rekmeyata
    @Rekmeyata 4 года назад

    Of course a Bic Pen will open it up fast by inserting the end of the pen into the keyhole, push hard and twist around till it pops open; just RUclips this: GunVault MiniVault easy lock pick

  • @tylernmindy
    @tylernmindy 10 лет назад

    I guess I know what gun vault I won't be buying. Especially since all that prying probably didn't make a difference. You could have just used the hammer and jumped the lock.

  • @crawdaddydoo
    @crawdaddydoo 9 лет назад

    It's called get a replacement key from GunVault. Anyone who's going to own something like this would've registered the product and be able to easily prove ownership.

  • @Sleepy731
    @Sleepy731 8 лет назад

    I see this as keeping your loaded gun handy but off the hands of a toddler or curious visitor in your home, office or vehicle. if seen adults grab loaded guns and first thing they do is put the finger and squeeze the trigger by accident.

  • @rrascon8
    @rrascon8 10 лет назад +4

    ....theres a grinder with a cutting wheel sitting right there...

    • @tomwilliams1859
      @tomwilliams1859  9 лет назад +2

      exactly why I used it at the end of the video, but thanks for the reminder.

  • @videodistro
    @videodistro 9 лет назад

    I own three GunVaults and I have to be honest. I am looking to replace them all with something else. Why? Simply because the buttons or horrible and almost useless. They are spongy rubber pads with no tactile feedback whatsoever. You need to rely on a beep to know if you've pressed them (and that can be hard to do!), which I don't want to use. Trying to be sure you press two or three buttons at a time is even worse. I'm so sorry I bought their products and I'll never do it again. It would be better to use some sort of simplex lock, and that's what I'll be replacing them with. Their products are simply a failure as far as the buttons go. There is no excuse.

  • @BloodStainedTear
    @BloodStainedTear 4 года назад

    the hinge side is exposed and weaker than the locking mechanism.. attack that first..

  • @wolfizwatchin
    @wolfizwatchin 10 лет назад

    ...there's a tubular style key override... go buy a tubular key from a security store for $5, and your in, nothing new here, just a 1950's style lock with a dressed up design
    not safe
    DEFCON 19: Safe to Armed in Seconds: A Study of Epic Fails of Popular Gun Safes

  • @tonyanarchy9525
    @tonyanarchy9525 8 лет назад

    if you start on the back side it would take you 10 minutes not the big pan out

  • @derekw40
    @derekw40 Год назад

    So it is kid proof.

  • @jimmytate7587
    @jimmytate7587 3 года назад

    just use a battery drill and drill out the core of the lock

  • @TomsBackyardWorkshop
    @TomsBackyardWorkshop 10 лет назад +1

    Definitely don't want that one. Thanks for the video.

    • @tomwilliams1859
      @tomwilliams1859  9 лет назад +8

      It is not a bad device, I just wouldn't use it for more then keeping it away from small children.

    • @556Justice
      @556Justice 9 лет назад +2

      Tom Williams That's all those are really made for....child safety. I have a heavy duty gun safe that is anchored into the house slab with 1/2" studs.

  • @aquakey9834
    @aquakey9834 9 лет назад

    is it a cultural thing tt Americans r always first to jump on any opportunity they have to break their stuff?

  • @77elcaminoss
    @77elcaminoss 6 лет назад +2

    Hmm let me watch a video before I order it online (4min later) and now I dont want this one

  • @jameshelms9875
    @jameshelms9875 9 лет назад

    U use a drill bit and drill the lock tumbler and pin its easy .not hard u can be in and out with in five mins

    • @ncl420
      @ncl420 8 лет назад +2

      He was in it within 5 min.

  • @scott1lori282
    @scott1lori282 4 года назад

    Your wife let you put a vice in the kitchen? How'd you sell that?

  • @marcosm65
    @marcosm65 8 лет назад +2

    Grease your vise.

  • @boofingdragon
    @boofingdragon 6 лет назад

    I can pick mine with a 10 dollar tubular lock pick I got on allexiexpress. Security is just a mirage people. You are much better with a jumper cable discreet gun case, hiding in plain site is much better than this thing.

  • @donnobadh858
    @donnobadh858 7 лет назад

    Ohh Man I just bought one !!!!!! I guess will return it

  • @johndoughnuts3712
    @johndoughnuts3712 8 лет назад +1

    thats right hes got tools in his garage

  • @billlopez4898
    @billlopez4898 10 лет назад +7

    who wears ear plugs to use a battery driven angle grinder?

    • @brucefrank6119
      @brucefrank6119 10 лет назад +17

      If you are smart and want you hearing at age 50, you should.

    • @TomsBackyardWorkshop
      @TomsBackyardWorkshop 10 лет назад +20

      Someone who cares about their hearing.

    • @mrfunkington
      @mrfunkington 10 лет назад +2

      POVadventure
      home.earthlink.net/~dnitzer/4HaasEaton/Decibel.html
      80db = Loud: noisy office, electric shaver, alarm clock, police whistle
      90db = Very Loud : Decibels at or above 90 regularly cause ear damage. Noisy factory, truck without muffler
      100 = Very Loud: Passing truck, home lawn mower, car horn @ 5 meters, wood saw, boiler factory
      110 = Deafening: Punch press, close to a train, ball mill
      120 = Deafening: Riveter, chipper, thunder, diesel engine room, fireworks display
      www.makitauk.com/pam/custom/files/vibration-noise-data-values.pdf
      Electric angle grinder from Makita - surface grinding = between 84 and 88 db.
      So do you wear earplugs at the office? In a restaurant? While you shave? Guess you don't care that much about your hearing then.
      So, my original point is - its overkill..

    • @videodistro
      @videodistro 9 лет назад +5

      mrfunkington
      That listing of 84 to 88 dB is just the tool turning, not while it's grinding. Grinding can be easily over 110 dB. When you start to lose your hearing and someday when you try to listen to your grandchildren (if you are lucky enough) and wish you had protected your hearing more, then you'll realize how asinine your comment is. You have the right to go deaf. Go ahead. Just don't ask me to pay extra taxes for some program to help you get on with your life.

    • @tomwilliams1859
      @tomwilliams1859  9 лет назад +6

      videodistro Thank you for the reply, I was going to saw something like that but never felt motivated to to correct people who obviously have problems with things like basic logic!
      Thanks again!

  • @Mike-ec5cz
    @Mike-ec5cz 5 лет назад +1

    Order a new key

  • @scottydntno
    @scottydntno 9 лет назад

    If I were to steal this safe, Cutting the cable is ALL I'd be concerned about. Once I get it home, it wouldn't take me more than 1min to open the safe and get the gun out. Sorry, but this video is stupid.

  • @MrFamilyman82
    @MrFamilyman82 7 лет назад

    All this proves is that you are a terrible thief. haha BUT that is a good thing. Sorry that you had to kill your safe to make this video. As long as they can cut the cable they can take the box with them and have all the time in the world to get it open it you don't bolt it down to something.

  • @youtub788
    @youtub788 10 лет назад

    DEFCON 19: Safe to Armed in Seconds: A Study of Epic Fails of Popular Gun Safes
    Try the above link he shows you how to do it in less than one minute.

  • @Mordalo
    @Mordalo 6 лет назад

    What is the point of this video? It was never intended to be a safe.

  • @kevinstreed6055
    @kevinstreed6055 7 лет назад

    The

  • @kurtisjohnson5456
    @kurtisjohnson5456 4 года назад +1

    8:16 minutes I’ll never get back 🤬🤬🤬

  • @timlipinski2571
    @timlipinski2571 8 лет назад

    Try a Paper Clip and have it open in less than thirty seconds ! Also do not quit your day job, you will not have a life as a career criminal... Why did not you learn some basic tools as a young kid at home... tjl

    • @tomwilliams1859
      @tomwilliams1859  7 лет назад +5

      I'll be waiting for your video showing the opening of it in less then 30 seconds...