Putin 'gets desperate' as Vuhledar victory falls short of Donbas objectives | Robert Fox
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Russia's capture of Vuhledar has fallen short of Putin's Pokrovsk objective as he faces economic trouble in Russia caused by a costly summer offensive, Evening Standard Defence Editor Robert Fox tells Kate Gerbeau on Frontline.
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The fact that your guest seems to be implying around the 20 minutes mark that a Harris presidency would probably worse for Ukraine than a Trump presidency means I can't take him seriously.
right, hes so does not understand the US and its politics. He should FEAR trump.
Never know. Maybe Trump just decides he wants to be the hero.
Zelenski is keeping the morale high during the withdrawal of vuladar.
You be that. War is about winning.
I got fed up with the Economist too. Dropped my subscription last year.
Same here!!!!
One of the last bastions fallen
What a fine discussion. Frightening, for sure, but came from deep knowledge gleaned over many years. Thank you.
Vuhledar had a pre-war population of less than 20,000 people. That isn't even a city, that is a village.
@@mrjerzheel It's a fort.
By Ukraine's own definition, which is anything with a population of greater than 10k, it's a city. Dry your eyes.
they keep taking more and more so ukraine is collapsing
@@goonerboz6023 Text book pyrrhic victory 🤣
@@goonerboz6023Russia 1 tv promised us a three day victory. Ha, ha ha 😂 🤣 😆 😄 😅 😜
Your guest predicts there will be changes in the security elite.
Fifty years of journalism taught him so much.
Robert Fox talks alot of sense, and imo is spot on with his analysis...Zelensky seemed very uncomfortable when 'endorsing' Trump , who rattled on about his impeachment and his election campaign ..
Not surprising.
But US election politics are toxic. The majority of the US population know little about the outside world and care less.
He wasn't endorsing Trump - just discussing his plan. But Trump made it all about himself in the most shameful display of narcissisim I think I've ever seen on a politician.
The Evening Standard is owned by the Lebedevs; Lebedev senior was in the KGB in London and must be approved of by Putin. I'm somewhat sceptical that Robert Fox might not be quite as independent as he would like us to believe
Ms. Gerbeau on Times Radio is my go-to. The guests she has on has such clarity and I guess too, because of the clear diction/audio keeps me glued for a whole half hour duration. Usually my attention span can only last five or ten minutes at most. But I'm glued to Ms. Gerbeau's depth and clarity. She speaks the King's English. Love the diction.
It is an advantage of ammunition numbers. Russia has a an advantage in artillery shells being fired daily. we did not expand our manufacturing capacity for shells and that lack is showing very distinctly. Russia levels an area with artillery and then moves forward. the west doesn't give Ukraine the capacity to push back. Ukraine probably has to build their own factories since the collective west can't get ready for battle.
Current reports say it is a 3:1 advantage in artillery shells that favor Russia
There is no way to suddenly expand arms production in the West.
No surge capacity as Western arms manufactures, being private, are concerned with maximising profits.
That means small quantity very high cost boondoggles like the F35 are what they like to produce.
The West has no "surge capacity" for arms as there's no money in it for the MIC.
yea whatever.....yawn...
Russia has had to go to North Korea and Iran for artillery shells so obviously he can't manufacture enough
❤Ukrainians ❤
The headline is bizarre you guys are insane putin this and that lying to people
He said the replacement of Zelensky would be a "blow" to Putin ???
This is the epitome of cope
I ask myself why people always want to know the meaning of an old man..I am sure that the outcome of this war will be TOTALLY DIFFERENT than what we have to hear week after week from the so called "specialists"
Vuhledar the fortress City commanding the high ground is a disaster to lose
Copium Times
He would want to close things off by the end of the year is your supposition and then you say he will fail.
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After five massive attacks over two years a city falls and that is seen as not achieving a goal.
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ever heard of Pyrrus king of Ephirus?
@@RobertoEarnywho Do tell.
Umm. They were supposed to take Kiev in 1 week or less.
THe guest is totally off base when it comes to his interpretation of a Trump vs Harris win . Trump will hand Ukraine to Putin. The guest is completely uninformed about Harris, not to mention that his comments are quite sexist. Old White man prejudices !
The draft Istanbul Peace Agreement was hardly "a feeler". The document was initialled by both sets of negotiators and led to the Russian withdrawal from Kiev and Sumy as part of the first stage of implementation. Any revival of the peace agreement will be based on Istanbul + taking into account the changes on the ground. And of course the undeniable fact that Russia is winning the war.
Yes the big question is how zolynski can stabilize the economy in ukraine when six thousand pound bombs keep flying into buildings.
@@Interglacial_optimist Do we like making people angry? Ha ha 😂 🤣 😆 😄 😅 😀 😂
Does Russia's scorched earth policies inflicted upon its neighbors, still deserve it to have their own capital Moscow remain intact???
The clear answer is NO, NO, NO!!
This isn't "scorched earth", that's when you destroy your own assets to prevent them being used by the enemy.
Vuhledar is just war, if the Russians were really at war with Ukraine it would all look like Vuhledar.
Not "scorched Earth" just war.
The US does the same to countries on the other side of the World from it.
ok..where did the USA level.multiple cities and have referendums to join the USA?
care to enlighten us vatniky?
@@RobertoEarnywho It's clear the people from the annexed regions clearly approved the annexation.
This wouldn't be true for Western Ukraine, this is why they are unlikely to annex the whole country.
Of course they gave Zelensky the opportunity to maintain notional possession of the Donbas, albeit with autonomy, as part of the 2022 peace deal.
Zelensky was convinced that war was a better option.
Economist, now that is a tough read. It's mindless, not 'pay per word ' propaganda, but endless dry mindless reading...?
Great guest!
Hey man... no more whiskey! lol
Step away from the mirror.
Ukraine will win in the end.
Stop embarrassing your times radio we all know that good news doesnt sell , but bad one does sell ! 😂
America - DONE
Defeated by Polarisation and
De-Escalation.
US - Is NATO's weak link...
I get the sense he's misreading Harris' stance on Ukraine. There's not much in her rhetoric to lead one to believe that she would be less active/supportive on Ukraine than Biden. There's not much to indicate she'd be more aggressive either. But her statements in terms of military support are centered around defending democracies and ensuring strong historical alliances, so decreasing support seems antithetical to that.
Baldy's effrontery knows no bounds. 55 years of reporting and still talks 100% rot.
Putin is highly unlikely to quit any time soon.
Though, he should stay away from any window on a very high floor
@@boink800or even open windows on the ground floor.
He quit, when his DEAD...
Surprisingly sanguine about the potential impact of a Trump presidency on the near-term future of Ukraine.
I agree with your guest that great britain is in the poorest of positions.
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Keep dreaming because it's wealthy than Russia
Yes but unlike Russia, people can say so and demand change.
@@Interglacial_optimist UK is the 6th largest economy Russia isn't in the top 10.
id say ruzzia is, the UKs economy like the EU states go tickey tickey all is fine....the rushist state is rather rickety ..lol.
@@RobertoEarnywho I know there was a fact in all of those words somewhere.But I couldn't figure it out
HELLO MY KGB🎉
This gentleman demonstrates a serious misunderstanding of North American politics. Sorry Kate, not credible.
Times Radio’s Ep. #234 of “ The Wishful Thoughts That Russia Will Collapse One Day “ 🤦♂️🤷♂️🤣
I almost feel sad for them.
No discussion of tactics! If you listen to him he seems tonhabe no idea whether Ukraine and the West have any strategy at all.
5:28 proper continuation after intro
Next time find a competent, informed person to interview.
Ukraine is surprisingly very close to Mariupol.
They pushed so far to the city of Donetsk.
You usually have insightful guests on but this guy talks a load of pish.🏴🤕🇺🇸🌧️💥💙
Slava Ukraini 🇬🇧 ♥️ 🇺🇦
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Houston, we have a problem! Russia liberated Vuhledar😄
Liberated? You mean reduced to ruble.
Russia are building their own copy of Shahed in Chinese factory's now
So China will no longer be able to hide under the cover of "dual use"?
Thank you Times Radio host Kate Gerbeau and your excellent guest today Mr. Robert Fox for this important update about the Ukraine. I would only add the world is also watching what America will do in Ukraine. And here here is the reason why. Not only is America supposed to be the leader of the free world. But all other free democracies from around the world look too and depend on America to be that leader. This means supporting Nato and the free and democratic country of Ukraine. Who as we all know was illegally invaded by a larger much more powerful and aggressive foreign power being Russia. Also some people and leaders of other foreign countries. Have studied America's own Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States of America. The very beliefs and principles that America itself was founded on. Which of course greatly strengthens the faith hope and belief that other people and leaders of like minded Nations will have in America. To always do the right thing when they are asking for our help.
Democracy ? Democratic ? Do you live in an alternate universe ? The US is an autocratic bully on a world wide mission of hegemony ! Full stop........ Geez you are the archetypical US citizen, your murderous, hegemonic dictatorship of the modern world is coming to an end, and that can't be too soon. Just my opinion of course.
Yet another old buffer, well past his "retire by" date. Look at the world, so much of it run by geriatrics, no wonder we have so much conflict !
Ok, Victor meldrew
America could have given Ukraine all the weapons and equipment they already have so far much quicker....like a year ago. There was a 6 month pause from the west giving Ukraine weapons and aid packages and still Russian forces couldn't break through the frontlines in full. They slowly inch by inch do take Ukrainian territory but its amazing to me that some from the west seem surprised when this happens and at times even bored or weary of Putins war in Ukraine. Smh. The ones in the west who are not involved in fighting off Russian forces everyday in Ukraine are growing tired? That is an insult to the Ukranian defense forces fighting everyday in Ukraine so that their families and country can still exist. Ukrainians are tired but must still fight or their country won't exist! If Ukraine is losing this war in some areas of the frontline it is the fault of America , the UK , Germany , France , and all of the EU and NATO countries backing Ukraine that are not giving Ukraine the aid and weapons that Ukraine is asking for at the time they say they need it in order to be successful all because these countries in the west are afraid of Putin's nuclear threats. Smh.
@@JasonMeza-i6u Are we making yet mire red lines? Ha ha 😂 🤣 😆 😄 😅
Times radio spining the same old narrative of Ukraine winning...entertaining clowns after clowns on their show😅😅😅 when will you Brits realise that Ukraine is gone just like Bo Jo!!! Lol😅
@@andyabuteo6084 Russia 1 tv promised all of Russia a three day victory. Ha, ha ha 😂 🤣 😆 😄 😅
😂 DELUSION 😂
Propaganda of lies typical of this channel
Did you even listen? This guy was not painting a pretty picture for the Ukrainians.
'Propaganda of lies' 4/10 in your second language there, Kremlin Gremlin.
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I can't speak, you're just too funny🤡🤡🤡🤡
Times Radio is the best comedy show ever🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Get some friends and a hobby, you random nobody.
its like a satire comedy show that gets more insane everyday
@@goonerboz6023 they're the best British clowns🤣🤣🤣🤣
But Russian media is funnier. Some of the stuff they say is hilarious, absolutely no resemblance to reality 😂
@@richiecooke69as if you would ever know 😂
Россия спокойно продвигается вперёд
Not even close the economy is barely alive
At what cost? Russia is doomed. The military is haemorrhaging losses and the economy is almost done.
Russia took Vulhedar; Ukraine had to retreat. It's really difficult to spin this as some sort of massive win for the Ukrainians.
I'm as pro Ukraine as they come but this is just dumb.
Vuhledar after 2 years yeah what a victory
@@edwardvalivonis23 it doesn't matter how long the Russians took to take it. What matters is that Russia took it.
We've read for over two years now of glorious and successful defences and retreats by Ukraine. Another year or two of such glorious retreats and there might not be a Ukraine left to defend. We've been led for two years to believe that Russia is on the verge of running out of men and tanks and shells; instead Ukraine now is vastly outnumbered on all categories. Either Russia has found a way to instantaneously clone millions of men, or we have been lied to.
@@edwardvalivonis23 They worked for it for 2 years, that makes the victory even sweeter.
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Nuclear 'party' seem attraktive...
What to join...Russia?
Almost gangster power? Russia sure seems like full blown gangsterism to me. There is no law and order in Russia other than Putin's whims. It feels like a powerful system but in actuality it is quite weak. Respecting law, and respecting human rights on the other hand appears weak but it creates a strong society. Slava Ukraini!
Grasping at straws and trying to save face about the war that was obvious to anyone who wasn't infected by russophobia to see that Ukraine could never defeat Russia. 800 000 lives later, people are starting to see that maybe we were wrong, but it's hard to acknowledge that. I'm waiting for more excuses for Ukraine/NATO losing the war
Don't be so sure, Russia will defeat itself, as usual !
Ukraine has no chance of beating Russia, but the Western experts just keep lying.😂😂😂
Ukraine needs time, Russia can't sustain a war economy for ever. How many decades do you think Putin has left?
That’s all they can do now is to talk nonsense. 🤦♂️😂
Not like Afganistan could beat Soviet Union.
Yet Afganistan is around. Soviet Union is not.
Putin desperate. Hahaha. Yea, right.
Totally agree with Russian federation military decisions. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Excellent grammar in your native English there, Ivan 😂😂😂
russia lost 100k people this year and advanced 6% max of UA territorry.
@@rickywright1264 Ivanka rather than Ivan. All trolls are now females and most of them are in their 30’s. There was a short video from the inside of prigozhins troll factory on ”inside russia”.
Never been to Russia have you
Putin is a sad and scared little man and his trolls are desperate 😂
Russia is not in the wrong but UN is, in so many ways!!!!!!!!
Remind me again who invaded who
Are we really a Russian female using the name "James", working for the Internet Research Agency? Ha ha 😂 🤣 😆 😄 😅 😀
What did i tell you. You need to listen to me. All facts me. Now do you believe. Its only a matter time. Over by xmas i said.
❤❤❤Russia from the 🇬🇧.
Over by xmas. Thats what they said 1914.
@@jackneuman5108 I know. You live in the past. You can't compete with the Russians. They're a real army. Not like yours.
How can you take this joker seriously!!!
Are you sure or delusional who is desperate? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂