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Strange how this script starts with what seems like a casual killing that doesn't get addressed at all until the very end. I feel like it would be much harder to get the toys on the same side if we were being realistic with that element.
@@HemmasStudios_ - Yeah, his iconic appearance on Toy Story 2 shouldn't have ended up in nothing, still that small cameo at the end of 3 took me by surprise back in the day
I totally thought that El buzz would be a twist villain but I’m surprised they did not do that! I never heard this one but it would be a very nice movie!
Anyone else find it weird how casually they just murdered the old doll? I mean, I’m guessing there’s a bit of regret in the actual script, but still, we were gonna get a theatrical release of that toy’s carcass.
Gnomeo and Juliet did the same thing; a porcelain gnome gets fucking obliterated in a lawnmower race and straight up dies but is seen glued together in the credits. Basically any studios way of getting cold feet when brutally killing off a character
@@SuperToad128 Dude, totally! That movie also got away with murdering that bully guy, but at least he was a bully and an established character who kinda had it coming. The doll was a valuable heirloom and also appeared for like a minute tops.
The script has a section of everybody kinda looking around and going “Okay, this is bad but it was an accident” and DD is like “Accident or not, you are going to pay for this.” Not entirely non-remorseful killing, but I def get where you’re coming from.
it is kinda funny that Rex casually shattered a doll with no consequences when you remember in the first movie Andy's toys were ready to string up Woody when they thought he knocked Buzz out the window
Honestly I think Rex should’ve been with the gang in Utoypia since he was the catalyst for a lot of the script’s events. Plus it would’ve given him more to do like in TS2. Since after all he is one of the best characters.
It was different, with a visit to Grandma's house, and 2 Sockmonkeys called Hee-Hee and She-She (Female one is Renamed to Gladiola in 2nd variant of draft). @@DamnZtar
I really like this plot. It's pretty creative and I love aspects of it. I kind of want a version of this to be made with somethings changed. Also the Dom Toretto joke was hiliarious. "The Toys and The Furious" and its RC and a remote control pizza planet truck, lol.
When I was reading the script, the second El Buzz said “That makes us Family” I literally saw the Dom Toretto shot in my head as clear as day. Also, please have somebody make Vinny D write The Toys and The Furious: Bullseye Drift. It’d be cinèma
@@HemmasStudios_ Bullseye Drift would be a follow up story in which Lotso and Stinky Pete finally team up! And I think Bullseye being the main vehicle would be great. Lol.
I have many unproduced superhero screenplay -David Self's Namor (2004) -Tatum's Gambit (2015) -Del Toro's Justice League Dark -Shazam vs Black Adam (2008) -two versions of Ryan Reynold's The Flash -Excelsior (Stan Lee Biopic) -Tarantino's Luke Cage (1996 & 2004) -Petrovich's Thor (2007, sets in Viking era) -80s Cannon Picture's Spiderman -80s Nick Fury -Schumacher Batman The Dark Knight -Several Draft of 90s X-men movie -Aronofsky's The Wolverine (2011) -Kalogridis's Wonder Woman (2004) -80s Captain America -
I have like 15k scripts - used to be an assistant working in Lit Management - and I don’t have all of those… David Self is a helluva genre writer with a real knack for layered and complex world-building, despite his produced work not displaying much of this skill set. His draft of ROBOCOP (written for Aronofsky) is just bonkers. Like, for starters, it’s set in the year 2199 and takes place on a mostly-abandoned earth, several generations after the fall of a blade-runner/judge-dredd-style society. It’s Extremely dark and lacking ANY whiff of satire, but potentially brilliant in its own right.
@@thedaddyspider man, 15k scripts are tresuares. I wonder those are included unproduced scripts that i am looking for such as -1980s X-men -Wonder Woman (2006) by Matthew Jennison and Brent Strickland -Wonder Woman by Todd Alcot -Neil Gaiman Dr Strange -Will Beal's Justice League -Drew Goddard's Sinister Six -Ben Affleck's The Batman -Tom King's New Gods -Ant Man (pre MCU era) -Raimi's Spiderman 4. -
@@homanism6438 nah. Don’t think I have those. But I do have a waaaay different version of Justice League that opens with Atlanteans holding oil rig workers hostage. If you wanna read something good check out COBWEBS or RED LETTER. Both scripts rule. The CONJURING scripts are also superb. The early drafts are just so well written.
Speaking as someone who’s read a number of unproduced Toy Story sequel scripts, I have NEVER heard about this script before. Really appreciate you covering this, and I’ve just subscribed to your Patreon to hear the full interview!
@@HemmasStudios_ Of course! Dug how candid the interview was, kudos to you on making it happen! And wow, you’ve seen that! Small world out here on YT, thank you!
Didn’t know about this script. I only knew about the recall one. This one does sound interesting, but I am satisfied with the third movie we got. It was the end of an era.
I was expecting this to be the other known script of Toy Story 3 where it had Buzz taken to the Japanese factory that made him (and he at one point says "Too infinity and be-yatch!") But, this is so damn good. I kinda wish this was the third movie and the 4th movie we got would be the real Toy Story 3 we got in 2010 as a more satisfying conclusion.
Facts, Toy Story 3 is the perfect conclusion but it would've been nice to have more films in between it because TS4 ruins it and for what? A train wreck of an ending.
There is an entire beat in the actual script where all of Andy’s toys basically go “Oh wow this IS really bad, but it was also an accident!” And DD is like “That doesn’t make it okay, somebody has to pay for this!” So they do linger on it for just a bit longer in the script. But it literally never comes up again after that scene, so fair point.
As a true Mexican, the idea of knockoffs called El Buzz, Stinky dog, and Mr papaya head is funny, I grew up watching Thomas the tank engine and one knockoff called Happy train, and kind of true to Mexican knockoffs
Interesting to hear about this alternate ts3, but I do feel it's not the strongest script and while it could have been polished I feel the final script we got was overal the strongest one.
I had no idea there was another version of Circle 7's TS3. I wasn't expecting much, but honestly... this is actually way better than the recalled buzz script. And in some ways even better than the actual 3 (and most especially better than 4). Shame it never got made... Though if possible, I would love to see this version get revived and turned into an actual movie by Pixar. They did say that they might do more sequels in order to keep the studio afloat, so I could technically see it being possible (if they're open to using Circle 7's script rather than writing their own that is, and if the team and voice actors are open to do more with the franchise despite 4's ending). Though if it was to be made, a lot of changes would be needed in order to fit in with TS3 and TS4's canons (as well as a way to still have the Potato Heads in the story despite both actors passing away. Maybe do what TS4 did with Don Rickles, but with way more archive recordings used and better utilized in context). The movie would take place between 2 and 3 (like you said in a reply to someone), but one of the major things I would change is the ending. In this version, Dave and Andy's mom don't get married. Not out of anger per say, but more due to the fact that throughout the film, things start to not work out between the 2 as they hoped (all starting with Dave burning dinner). They still have a great friendship however and continue being friends to this very day. Same goes for Andy and Sunny. Even though now they don't have to worry about being part of a family anymore, both still become best friends. Plus even when Andy grows up in 3, Sunny goes to the same college as Andy where their friendship still goes on strong. The toys part of the story would be more or less the same, but with adjustments made to the script and pacing. As well as the "Buzz x Jessie" stuff being reduced so that canon-wise it would be saved for 3 with Buzz's Spanish mode. Plus the "Rex trying to scare everyone" part would be taken out because tbh, it was kind of annoying and didn't add much. Other than the changes I would've made, I can definitely see this working as an actual Toy Story prequel. For a rough draft, it surprisingly has a lot going for it. Way more than what TS4 and Lightyear tried to do ironically enough. Pls hire me Pixar.
As cool as this concept could of been, the whole idea of Circle 7 was a real scumbag move on Michael Eisner’s part. I’m honestly glad Roy E. Disney got the guy booted out.
Me interviewing Jim originally started out as me doing that version of the movie, then Jim mentioned to me that he wrote this version, too, so I changed my plans. That Recall/Taiwan draft is BY FAR the most requested video in the history of the channel, so it will definitely be made at some point. :D (Also, unrelated, love the profile picture!)
Woah, I did not know that there was a different for Toy Story 3, that is really interesting. It makes me wonder what other canned films had different stories that weren’t publicly available I find it really funny that you did all of the other canned Pixar Films that didn’t have public scripts before Finding Nemo 2 which did have a Public Script
Oh there very much are scripts that were never available like this one! Honestly, I was going to do the Toy Story 3 script that WAS accessible, but when Jim told me about this script, it seemed WAY too cool of an opportunity to pass up!
Great video as always Hemmas! This is an interesting script that could work as a Toy Story 5 with some tweaking (I don’t really want them to milk the franchise dry though) but I’m glad with how Toy Story 3 ended up anyway. The recall script sounds interesting as well, hopefully we can get a video on it soon.
Thank you for watching Menace! I think with some tweaking I really think some version of the story would make a fantastic 45 minute/hour long Disney Plus special that takes place between Toy Story 2 and 3. Kinda like Toy that Time Forgot, but longer. I’d definitely love to see it!
Thank you so much for sharing this with us! Totally awesome. Utoypia sounds like an amazing story and I can see it happening too. There are some good challenges for the characters in the story and there are some good themes as well but in the end it definitely doesn’t feel anywhere near on par with the third movie that we got. However this was an amazing video and the fact that you even contacted the author of the script is also very amazing. Your channel is truly spectacular.
I love the idea of someone finding out that the toys are real being shown to be getting counselling and seen as insane by other people. Thats equal parts messed up and funny and I wouldn't put it past Pixar to do a joke like that.
Now imagine an alternate universe where we got this along with the "Whodunnit" draft (s) as either actual movies or specials (kinda like TS of Terror and TS: That Time Forgot) Hee-Hee and Gladiola would probably be a brief mention (or be side characters if Dave also meets Andy's grandma) and I imagine the real Toy Story 3 (Toy Story 5 in this timeline) with Andy and Sunny going to College and a larger group of toys trying to get to them. (maybe Sunny's toys would be on Woody's side)
There’s only so much that can be understood from just a script. It makes you wonder what a definitive version of the blended family story would have looked like, especially compared to the final Toy Story 3.
I do really like how this draft touches a bit on off-brand toys produced in foreign countries. Toys are no strangers to having rip-offs based on them after all.
Okay first the obscure "whodunit" themed story, the Buzz recall storyline, and now this? God how many scripts were submitted for the non-Pixar Toy Story 3 before Circle Seven bit the dust?
Wow, I never heard of this draft! I only heard of the “Recall draft” until now. It’s crazy to think that there are 3 Completely different scripts for Toy Story 3.
I knew of one other TS3 draft that was more of a Whodoneit that Circle 7 did, but when Jim told me that he wrote ANOTHER version, I was totally flabbergasted.
I like the idea of knock-off toys and the overall message of the story, also the reveal of didi being a digital diary is a fun way of tying the story back into the blended family plot line while they’re separated from that. That being said I think “killing” a character off like that is a weird decision. Overall it kinda reminds me of the second Lego movie
Though the script needed some work, I think it would've been a great sequel and not only get another story with kid Andy (we did move on from that too quick, probably due to the long gap between movies), but also get to know his family and situation better. But part 2 did end with a good transition to the part 3 we got since their ride with Andy came to an end like with Jesse's Emily. But this film around 2006 would've been great!
Have you ever thought about making a video on the canned Gotham High animated series? To this day I feel like it's one of the craziest yet original ideas for a Batman cartoon
Everyone at 6:26: I FEEL THIS IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUUUUUE! DiDi after they end up lost: I'M MISSIN' EVERY MOMENT WITH YOUUUUUU! Also, if this movie was really made, I would have included a love montage covering those months set to a remix of 'Can't You Feel The Love Tonight' from The Lion King, of Jennifer (still played by Laurie Metcalf) and Dave (Brad Pitt) bonding, containing several homages to Disney films, like a dance at a big fancy party reminiscent of Beauty and the Beast, and a spaghetti dinner reminiscent of Lady and the Tramp
I mean, between having Spanish Buzz in Toy Story 3, a Daycare Scene like the Recall Draft in Toy Story 3, having a Star Command cat character (like in the Recall Draft) in Lightyear, AND Circle 7’s Finding Nemo 2 ALSO taking place at a Sea-World style park - it’s teetering on the edge for me. Pixar claims to have never looked at the Circle 7 stuff, but there are SO many coincidences…
Honestly, despite being completely ridiculous, I would’ve loved this. I still think the Toy Story 3 we got was the best outcome, but if they were to tweak the script somehow I think it would have been a better Toy Story 4
I agree entirely! Or even some way for this to be Toy Story 3 and a slightly modified version of the real TS3 was Toy Story 4! Pixar even could have had Sunny’s toys be long gone and thrown out, and just had Dave and Sunny in the scenes at Andy’s house… outside of that, I don’t think you would have had to change the plot too much :D
It didn't. One of the guys behind the final Toy Story 3 explained that they refused to read the Circle 7 draft, meaning that they came up with their own story from the ground-up.
Man, I think this plot is WAY better than the one where Buzz gets recalled or the one where the toys slowly disappear at Andy’s grandma’s. Also, does Hemmas have a Discord server?
I want to live in the universe where Disney and Pixar broke up. Disney shouldn't be a monopoly and own everything that it owns. it should just strictly be Disney and it's animation studios. Pixar should be on it's own run by John Lassiter, by the way, John Lassiter should not have been fired from Pixar, Cancel Cancel Culture, Marvel should've stayed with Paramount and Lucasfilm and Star Wars should've stayed independent. Disney should've never bought Fox either. Fox should've been it's own thing. Disney should only own Walt Disney Studios/Walt Disney Animation and the theme parks. That's it.
While there are many things I both, respectfully, agree and disagree with here- I can’t deny, the thing that sticks out to me most is Lucasfilm and Star Wars staying independent. I often wonder about the world where that happened…
I only ever knew about the "Recall" version of Toy Story, Never heard about this one. Another one of those, "sounds great on paper" stories, but I can see why Disney preferred the "Recall" plot, which I hope you'll also cover as well.
Before I reached out to Jim, I also had no idea this version existed- I don’t think anybody outside of Disney at the time did, so when he mentioned this version of Toy Story 3, it was too good of an opportunity to pass up. As for the Recall plot, I can’t tell you when it would be, but that version will 10000000% be covered at some point.
Honestly, I think I liked the other Recall Toy Story 3 more. When I was little I would watch Toy Story 2 over and over again a lot more than the others and I feel like Recall Toy Story 3 seems more like a follow up to Toy Story 2 with the action being similar. One part of the real Toy Story 3 I like so much is the jail break story with all the prisoners and the Recall Scripts also kinda has that. Also my favorite charter is Buzz Lightyear so I'm probably biased.
It’s funny to think how the Jessie and Buzz dynamic was literally the only thing carried over to the final movie. Oh, and Spanish Buzz. Oh and using something other than a potato of Mr. Potato Head!
It’s such a wide margin of quality it’s not even close. This script is a great example of how you do Toy Story as more of a comedy- as opposed to Toy Story 4
Speaking Of toys, It would ve awesome if you talk about the cancelled first draft Of the 86 Transformers Movie, the One written even before the 84 cartoon aired out
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Can You Make A Recalled Toy Story 3.
Nice I had no idea about this
You know toys don’t eat food
Strange how this script starts with what seems like a casual killing that doesn't get addressed at all until the very end. I feel like it would be much harder to get the toys on the same side if we were being realistic with that element.
Fair point, but I also feel like separating Rex from the toys who are lost goes a long way in having their team up be more believable.
@@HemmasStudios_ Zurg being in this movie would've been interesting
They always wanted to do that but never had a chance
I love the idea of Zurg being part of the gang.
So do I, it’s so clever and totally makes sense with the established lore!
@@HemmasStudios_ - Yeah, his iconic appearance on Toy Story 2 shouldn't have ended up in nothing, still that small cameo at the end of 3 took me by surprise back in the day
but didnt zurg say im your father to buzz?
Yeah he sometimes comes over to watch Buzz Light-year of Star Command with the other toys
@@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 he’s the father to New Buzz who should’ve been with the gang too since him and Rex got close.
I totally thought that El buzz would be a twist villain but I’m surprised they did not do that! I never heard this one but it would be a very nice movie!
This is new to hear, and the other Toy Story 3 Draft we heard was the one with Buzz malfunctioning and getting recalled back to Taiwan.
Anyone else find it weird how casually they just murdered the old doll? I mean, I’m guessing there’s a bit of regret in the actual script, but still, we were gonna get a theatrical release of that toy’s carcass.
Gnomeo and Juliet did the same thing; a porcelain gnome gets fucking obliterated in a lawnmower race and straight up dies but is seen glued together in the credits. Basically any studios way of getting cold feet when brutally killing off a character
@@SuperToad128 Dude, totally! That movie also got away with murdering that bully guy, but at least he was a bully and an established character who kinda had it coming. The doll was a valuable heirloom and also appeared for like a minute tops.
The script has a section of everybody kinda looking around and going “Okay, this is bad but it was an accident” and DD is like “Accident or not, you are going to pay for this.” Not entirely non-remorseful killing, but I def get where you’re coming from.
it is kinda funny that Rex casually shattered a doll with no consequences when you remember in the first movie Andy's toys were ready to string up Woody when they thought he knocked Buzz out the window
@@autobotproductions1244I imagined most of them had chilled out by the second
Honestly I think Rex should’ve been with the gang in Utoypia since he was the catalyst for a lot of the script’s events. Plus it would’ve given him more to do like in TS2. Since after all he is one of the best characters.
I had no idea there was another script for Toy Story 3 besides The Recall of Buzz Lightyear Story.
There’s even a third script floating around. I think was the very first one written for 3, that was a Whodunnit style mystery.
@@HemmasStudios_didn’t that become Toy Story of terror?
It was different, with a visit to Grandma's house, and 2 Sockmonkeys called Hee-Hee and She-She (Female one is Renamed to Gladiola in 2nd variant of draft). @@DamnZtar
@@DamnZtarBasically, but with more focus on Jessie.
I really like this plot. It's pretty creative and I love aspects of it. I kind of want a version of this to be made with somethings changed. Also the Dom Toretto joke was hiliarious. "The Toys and The Furious" and its RC and a remote control pizza planet truck, lol.
When I was reading the script, the second El Buzz said “That makes us Family” I literally saw the Dom Toretto shot in my head as clear as day.
Also, please have somebody make Vinny D write The Toys and The Furious: Bullseye Drift. It’d be cinèma
@@HemmasStudios_ Bullseye Drift would be a follow up story in which Lotso and Stinky Pete finally team up! And I think Bullseye being the main vehicle would be great. Lol.
I have many unproduced superhero screenplay
-David Self's Namor (2004)
-Tatum's Gambit (2015)
-Del Toro's Justice League Dark
-Shazam vs Black Adam (2008)
-two versions of Ryan Reynold's The Flash
-Excelsior (Stan Lee Biopic)
-Tarantino's Luke Cage (1996 & 2004)
-Petrovich's Thor (2007, sets in Viking era)
-80s Cannon Picture's Spiderman
-80s Nick Fury
-Schumacher Batman The Dark Knight
-Several Draft of 90s X-men movie
-Aronofsky's The Wolverine (2011)
-Kalogridis's Wonder Woman (2004)
-80s Captain America
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where did you get the source of the Stan lee biopic??
@@homanism6438 D4mn, why are there so many canceled superhero projects out there?
I have like 15k scripts - used to be an assistant working in Lit Management - and I don’t have all of those… David Self is a helluva genre writer with a real knack for layered and complex world-building, despite his produced work not displaying much of this skill set. His draft of ROBOCOP (written for Aronofsky) is just bonkers. Like, for starters, it’s set in the year 2199 and takes place on a mostly-abandoned earth, several generations after the fall of a blade-runner/judge-dredd-style society. It’s Extremely dark and lacking ANY whiff of satire, but potentially brilliant in its own right.
@@thedaddyspider man, 15k scripts are tresuares. I wonder those are included unproduced scripts that i am looking for such as
-1980s X-men
-Wonder Woman (2006) by Matthew Jennison and Brent Strickland
-Wonder Woman by Todd Alcot
-Neil Gaiman Dr Strange
-Will Beal's Justice League
-Drew Goddard's Sinister Six
-Ben Affleck's The Batman
-Tom King's New Gods
-Ant Man (pre MCU era)
-Raimi's Spiderman 4.
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@@homanism6438 nah. Don’t think I have those. But I do have a waaaay different version of Justice League that opens with Atlanteans holding oil rig workers hostage. If you wanna read something good check out COBWEBS or RED LETTER. Both scripts rule. The CONJURING scripts are also superb. The early drafts are just so well written.
Even in an alternative draft poor Al still can't catch a break
This made me legitimately cackle
I would still like to see this get made but as TV special instead like Toy Story Terror and That Time Forgot
Speaking as someone who’s read a number of unproduced Toy Story sequel scripts, I have NEVER heard about this script before. Really appreciate you covering this, and I’ve just subscribed to your Patreon to hear the full interview!
Thank you for the kind words, and your support! Love your Phineas and Ferb finale video!
@@HemmasStudios_ Of course! Dug how candid the interview was, kudos to you on making it happen! And wow, you’ve seen that! Small world out here on YT, thank you!
@@Fallingwithstyle1995, could you possibly share some details on any of the other unmade scripts?
Didn’t know about this script. I only knew about the recall one. This one does sound interesting, but I am satisfied with the third movie we got. It was the end of an era.
I also had no idea the script existed- imagine my surprise when Jim mentioned to me that he actually wrote 2 Toy Story 3s!
I was expecting this to be the other known script of Toy Story 3 where it had Buzz taken to the Japanese factory that made him (and he at one point says "Too infinity and be-yatch!") But, this is so damn good. I kinda wish this was the third movie and the 4th movie we got would be the real Toy Story 3 we got in 2010 as a more satisfying conclusion.
The factory was in Taiwan
Facts, Toy Story 3 is the perfect conclusion but it would've been nice to have more films in between it because TS4 ruins it and for what? A train wreck of an ending.
It was Taiwan not Japan !!!
That's what I said!!!
@@oliverpony Who cares
I would have loved to see the 2 drafts come to life. They're both so great sounding and both have a great story.
Same here! Couldn’t agree more!
We moved past toy murder pretty quick in the beginning there
There is an entire beat in the actual script where all of Andy’s toys basically go “Oh wow this IS really bad, but it was also an accident!” And DD is like “That doesn’t make it okay, somebody has to pay for this!” So they do linger on it for just a bit longer in the script. But it literally never comes up again after that scene, so fair point.
That does sound so interesting of a plot for Toy Story 3 and would liked to had seen.
I couldn’t agree more
As a true Mexican, the idea of knockoffs called El Buzz,
Stinky dog, and Mr papaya head is funny, I grew up watching Thomas the tank engine and one knockoff called Happy train, and kind of true to Mexican knockoffs
Interesting to hear about this alternate ts3, but I do feel it's not the strongest script and while it could have been polished I feel the final script we got was overal the strongest one.
I had no idea there was another version of Circle 7's TS3. I wasn't expecting much, but honestly... this is actually way better than the recalled buzz script. And in some ways even better than the actual 3 (and most especially better than 4). Shame it never got made...
Though if possible, I would love to see this version get revived and turned into an actual movie by Pixar. They did say that they might do more sequels in order to keep the studio afloat, so I could technically see it being possible (if they're open to using Circle 7's script rather than writing their own that is, and if the team and voice actors are open to do more with the franchise despite 4's ending). Though if it was to be made, a lot of changes would be needed in order to fit in with TS3 and TS4's canons (as well as a way to still have the Potato Heads in the story despite both actors passing away. Maybe do what TS4 did with Don Rickles, but with way more archive recordings used and better utilized in context).
The movie would take place between 2 and 3 (like you said in a reply to someone), but one of the major things I would change is the ending. In this version, Dave and Andy's mom don't get married. Not out of anger per say, but more due to the fact that throughout the film, things start to not work out between the 2 as they hoped (all starting with Dave burning dinner). They still have a great friendship however and continue being friends to this very day. Same goes for Andy and Sunny. Even though now they don't have to worry about being part of a family anymore, both still become best friends. Plus even when Andy grows up in 3, Sunny goes to the same college as Andy where their friendship still goes on strong. The toys part of the story would be more or less the same, but with adjustments made to the script and pacing. As well as the "Buzz x Jessie" stuff being reduced so that canon-wise it would be saved for 3 with Buzz's Spanish mode. Plus the "Rex trying to scare everyone" part would be taken out because tbh, it was kind of annoying and didn't add much.
Other than the changes I would've made, I can definitely see this working as an actual Toy Story prequel. For a rough draft, it surprisingly has a lot going for it. Way more than what TS4 and Lightyear tried to do ironically enough. Pls hire me Pixar.
What an interview! I love that plot so much. I wish I could watch it. Big claps to the writer for the concept.
7:24 is that Cleo de Nile 😭😭
Who is that?
@@HemmasStudios_ she’s a character from the fashion doll line monster high that clip art looks like a knock off version of her 😭
@@reputationselinasversion1606she looks like a bratz version (the iconic chunky feet)
As cool as this concept could of been, the whole idea of Circle 7 was a real scumbag move on Michael Eisner’s part. I’m honestly glad Roy E. Disney got the guy booted out.
I have to wonder if this is where the idea of Buzz Lightyear speaking Spanish in the final film came from.
Probably. The whole idea sounds funny and could work. It did.
Am surprised you didn't talk about the draf about buzz going Taiwan but this sounds even cooler
Me interviewing Jim originally started out as me doing that version of the movie, then Jim mentioned to me that he wrote this version, too, so I changed my plans.
That Recall/Taiwan draft is BY FAR the most requested video in the history of the channel, so it will definitely be made at some point. :D
(Also, unrelated, love the profile picture!)
@@HemmasStudios_ Yeah am pretty proud of it and the name too 😁
Woah, I did not know that there was a different for Toy Story 3, that is really interesting. It makes me wonder what other canned films had different stories that weren’t publicly available
I find it really funny that you did all of the other canned Pixar Films that didn’t have public scripts before Finding Nemo 2 which did have a Public Script
Oh there very much are scripts that were never available like this one!
Honestly, I was going to do the Toy Story 3 script that WAS accessible, but when Jim told me about this script, it seemed WAY too cool of an opportunity to pass up!
@@HemmasStudios_ How come you didn't talk about the other canceled Toy Stoy 3? Like Buzz being recalled. Woody and the gang try saying Buss, etc.
Great video as always Hemmas! This is an interesting script that could work as a Toy Story 5 with some tweaking (I don’t really want them to milk the franchise dry though) but I’m glad with how Toy Story 3 ended up anyway. The recall script sounds interesting as well, hopefully we can get a video on it soon.
Thank you for watching Menace! I think with some tweaking I really think some version of the story would make a fantastic 45 minute/hour long Disney Plus special that takes place between Toy Story 2 and 3. Kinda like Toy that Time Forgot, but longer. I’d definitely love to see it!
So a bootleg Pixar was going to make a Toy Story about bootleg toys.
I’m shocked that nobody had made this joke until now
@@HemmasStudios_that's kinda a bad message.
Idk if leokimvideo would've liked it.
This is so much better than TS4!!!!!! great video mate
Thank you so much for watching!
@@HemmasStudios_ youre crushin it dude. i can count on one hand how many YT'bers always knock it out of the park. keep it up!
I really appreciate the kind words, thank you!
Love these videos, only ever heard about circle 7s version of toy story 2, didnt know about a 3rd
Imagine my surprise when Jim was like “Oh I actually wrote 2 different versions of Toy Story 3”
@@HemmasStudios_ Honestly the plot in this video sounds alot better than the other plot
Thank you so much for sharing this with us! Totally awesome. Utoypia sounds like an amazing story and I can see it happening too. There are some good challenges for the characters in the story and there are some good themes as well but in the end it definitely doesn’t feel anywhere near on par with the third movie that we got. However this was an amazing video and the fact that you even contacted the author of the script is also very amazing. Your channel is truly spectacular.
This sounds amazingly over-the-top and dramatic. I love it! Would have fit perfectly as a sequent between 2 and the official 3.
great job on getting Herzfeld
Thank you so much!
I love the idea of someone finding out that the toys are real being shown to be getting counselling and seen as insane by other people. Thats equal parts messed up and funny and I wouldn't put it past Pixar to do a joke like that.
I guess they can call it Toy Story: Lost In Utoypia
Absolutely LOVE that title
There is a legit parallel timeline where Rex canonically has a body count
Now imagine an alternate universe where we got this along with the "Whodunnit" draft (s) as either actual movies or specials (kinda like TS of Terror and TS: That Time Forgot) Hee-Hee and Gladiola would probably be a brief mention (or be side characters if Dave also meets Andy's grandma) and I imagine the real Toy Story 3 (Toy Story 5 in this timeline) with Andy and Sunny going to College and a larger group of toys trying to get to them. (maybe Sunny's toys would be on Woody's side)
I like the idea of the main characters meeting bootleg toys
7:41 forky accidentally broke the cup WHAT NOOOO
There’s only so much that can be understood from just a script. It makes you wonder what a definitive version of the blended family story would have looked like, especially compared to the final Toy Story 3.
Irrelevant, but as a HUGE Viva Pinata fan, I love the images you used at 22:12 and 22:24!
When the script mentioned Piñatas, I couldn't not pay tribute to that game :P
I do really like how this draft touches a bit on off-brand toys produced in foreign countries. Toys are no strangers to having rip-offs based on them after all.
Okay first the obscure "whodunit" themed story, the Buzz recall storyline, and now this? God how many scripts were submitted for the non-Pixar Toy Story 3 before Circle Seven bit the dust?
Funny that you mention the Whodunnit draft… :)
Wow, I never heard of this draft! I only heard of the “Recall draft” until now. It’s crazy to think that there are 3 Completely different scripts for Toy Story 3.
There's actually a 4th- there's a Whodunnit "Murder Mystery" style script that I believe was the very first script written for C7 Toy Story 3
A space ranger cat was supposed to appear in the "Recall Draft"...? Maybe they reused the idea for Sox from Lightyear after all?
That is something that also really stood out to me.
Toy Story 5 plot confirmed
More like Toy Story 4 plot confirmed ;)
@@HemmasStudios_One of the better Toy Story 4’s.
I really like the idea of knock off toys, since they already used ideas like lost toys, daycare toys, normal toys, mutant toys, and collectible toys
Yeah this and Toy Story: Rescue In Taiwan would take place before the actual Toy Story 3. They can be prequels
Also totally love the Rescue in Taiwan title.
That way it can’t get in the way of the numbered sequels.
This surprised me to the point that it healed my stomach aching!
Huh I never knew this version of Tou Story 3 even existed, thought there was only the Circle 7 version and then the Pixar version we know today
I knew of one other TS3 draft that was more of a Whodoneit that Circle 7 did, but when Jim told me that he wrote ANOTHER version, I was totally flabbergasted.
@@HemmasStudios_ maybe the whodunnit version of toy story 3 became toy story of terror?
Beautiful awesome story
I really hated this plot. I prefer the recall version
I like the idea of knock-off toys and the overall message of the story, also the reveal of didi being a digital diary is a fun way of tying the story back into the blended family plot line while they’re separated from that.
That being said I think “killing” a character off like that is a weird decision.
Overall it kinda reminds me of the second Lego movie
If Circle 7 survived, Cars 2 would still have been made by them. There's no escape.
Okay, there has to be a completed script for this version somewhere out there, the other two Circle 7 Toy Story 3's have their scripts out there...
Is this the Toystory 2 remake that was going to happen and got cancelled? Yeah if it is then I’m happy it got cancelled.
well another alternative Toy Story 3 was about Buzz being recalled
great video. hainous script doe.
Honestly, I'm glad they never went with this
This really feels like a straight to video disney sequel like fox and the hound 2 or return of jafar
Though the script needed some work, I think it would've been a great sequel and not only get another story with kid Andy (we did move on from that too quick, probably due to the long gap between movies), but also get to know his family and situation better. But part 2 did end with a good transition to the part 3 we got since their ride with Andy came to an end like with Jesse's Emily. But this film around 2006 would've been great!
Have you ever thought about making a video on the canned Gotham High animated series? To this day I feel like it's one of the craziest yet original ideas for a Batman cartoon
I can't lie, I was looking at Gotham High stuff recently. I can't promise a video on it, but I can promise you that it's been on my radar recently :)
Jennifer throwing her Bouquet and Jessie Catching it and Buzz Surprised about it, i love it, i wish Disney went with this Idea for Toy Story 3
Everyone at 6:26: I FEEL THIS IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUUUUUE!
DiDi after they end up lost: I'M MISSIN' EVERY MOMENT WITH YOUUUUUU!
Also, if this movie was really made, I would have included a love montage covering those months set to a remix of 'Can't You Feel The Love Tonight' from The Lion King, of Jennifer (still played by Laurie Metcalf) and Dave (Brad Pitt) bonding, containing several homages to Disney films, like a dance at a big fancy party reminiscent of Beauty and the Beast, and a spaghetti dinner reminiscent of Lady and the Tramp
I like this better I wanna see someone animate a fan made Toy Story movie with this script
Ain't no way a rejected toy story 3 script just made me cry
I Never Knew About This Version Of The Thirdquel I Only Ever Heard About The Recall Story
So to answer the question, after Disney bought Pixar and made the Toy Story 3 we ended up with, they combined elements of both scripts.
I mean, between having Spanish Buzz in Toy Story 3, a Daycare Scene like the Recall Draft in Toy Story 3, having a Star Command cat character (like in the Recall Draft) in Lightyear, AND Circle 7’s Finding Nemo 2 ALSO taking place at a Sea-World style park - it’s teetering on the edge for me. Pixar claims to have never looked at the Circle 7 stuff, but there are SO many coincidences…
@@HemmasStudios_ what about that other version of C7’s Toy Story 3 having the toys disappear in a who did it style? Toy Story of Terror reused that.
I am so mad that this wasn’t used although I love the draft they used
it’s funny how disney said they didn’t need pixar when there part of the reason they are were they are now.
I am interested in the abandoned Incredibles two that they tried to make before Disney acquired Pixar
Ooooh could you please tell me more about this?
Well, one of the Circle Seven projects was a sequel to the Incredibles before it was scrapped. I have no idea what it was like.@@HemmasStudios_
I have no idea that's more of your expertise@@HemmasStudios_
I'm shocked to see Buzz's arch-enemy be part of the gang. Zurg is a GOOD GUY?!
Teaching he ain't real
The guy who drove the car looks like Simon from monsters Inc. two
A little easter egg by me :P
Thank you
Honestly, despite being completely ridiculous, I would’ve loved this. I still think the Toy Story 3 we got was the best outcome, but if they were to tweak the script somehow I think it would have been a better Toy Story 4
I agree entirely! Or even some way for this to be Toy Story 3 and a slightly modified version of the real TS3 was Toy Story 4!
Pixar even could have had Sunny’s toys be long gone and thrown out, and just had Dave and Sunny in the scenes at Andy’s house… outside of that, I don’t think you would have had to change the plot too much :D
Do you think you can actually do the other one because I would love to see that
The plan is to do the Recall Toy Story 3 at some point, for sure!
@HemmasStudios_ thanks man and keep up the good work ok
I like this original Toy Story 3 original draft script, I wish we had this original version then the final script we got
Man, this would have answered a few lingering lore questions if it happened…
I'm not the only one thinking this influenced Pixar's TS3 right? with the merging of toy groups and such
what an interesting script!
It didn't. One of the guys behind the final Toy Story 3 explained that they refused to read the Circle 7 draft, meaning that they came up with their own story from the ground-up.
huh, interesting.@@KnightEclipser
I would've loved this version of TS 3.
It would have been so great :D
Is the script for this draft floating around anywhere?
I don't believe this draft is available to the public
So this is where spanish buzz idea came from
Man, I think this plot is WAY better than the one where Buzz gets recalled or the one where the toys slowly disappear at Andy’s grandma’s.
Also, does Hemmas have a Discord server?
I do not have a server as of now, but I’m always pretty active in the comments section!
I want to live in the universe where Disney and Pixar broke up. Disney shouldn't be a monopoly and own everything that it owns. it should just strictly be Disney and it's animation studios. Pixar should be on it's own run by John Lassiter, by the way, John Lassiter should not have been fired from Pixar, Cancel Cancel Culture, Marvel should've stayed with Paramount and Lucasfilm and Star Wars should've stayed independent. Disney should've never bought Fox either. Fox should've been it's own thing. Disney should only own Walt Disney Studios/Walt Disney Animation and the theme parks. That's it.
While there are many things I both, respectfully, agree and disagree with here- I can’t deny, the thing that sticks out to me most is Lucasfilm and Star Wars staying independent. I often wonder about the world where that happened…
I only ever knew about the "Recall" version of Toy Story, Never heard about this one. Another one of those, "sounds great on paper" stories, but I can see why Disney preferred the "Recall" plot, which I hope you'll also cover as well.
Before I reached out to Jim, I also had no idea this version existed- I don’t think anybody outside of Disney at the time did, so when he mentioned this version of Toy Story 3, it was too good of an opportunity to pass up.
As for the Recall plot, I can’t tell you when it would be, but that version will 10000000% be covered at some point.
I don’t think toys can blush but ok
This comment made me actually laugh out loud.
@@HemmasStudios_ lol it did? Cool
I wish this Movie wasn't scrapped
This would have been a pretty solid sequel. Sounds much better than the fourth film that we got.
Couldn’t agree more!
4:45 element of surprise!!!!!!!
The only other draft for Toy Story 3 I knew was the one where Buzz got sent to Taiwan.
I knew of the Taiwan one and one that was a Whodoneit, but I never knew about this one- when Jim told me about it I was so surprised.
Honestly, I think I liked the other Recall Toy Story 3 more. When I was little I would watch Toy Story 2 over and over again a lot more than the others and I feel like Recall Toy Story 3 seems more like a follow up to Toy Story 2 with the action being similar. One part of the real Toy Story 3 I like so much is the jail break story with all the prisoners and the Recall Scripts also kinda has that. Also my favorite charter is Buzz Lightyear so I'm probably biased.
Totally understandable. I always thought that the idea of the Recall Draft always felt very right for Toy Story.
It’s funny to think how the Jessie and Buzz dynamic was literally the only thing carried over to the final movie. Oh, and Spanish Buzz. Oh and using something other than a potato of Mr. Potato Head!
Im glad they didn't go with this script it would've been the sherk the third of the franchise 😭
Why is this so much better than Toy Story 4 😭
It's not fair
It’s such a wide margin of quality it’s not even close. This script is a great example of how you do Toy Story as more of a comedy- as opposed to Toy Story 4
honestly if this was toy story 3 and toy story 4 was what we got with the official toy story 3 i don't think anybody would be mad
Couldn’t agree more!
@@quandaledingle4807 Yeah, that would be cool.
Could you make a video about 1906 and why it never happened?
1906 by Disney, Pixar and Warner Bros would have been Pixar's first live-action film.
Why is Emperor Zurg pregnant? 5:10
I wish I lived in the universe where we got the blended family movie.
Is sweet Buzz and Jessie had a moment in this, but I'll still take the toy story 3 we go. I hope we get a kiss in toy story 6 though
Do you think if they did this idea of toy story 3 was real would the real toy story 3 be more like a toy story 4
I definitely do, and I think that Pixar wouldn’t have had to change much make their Toy Story 3 fit into cannon with this movie.
Are you going to do the other Toy Story 3 sequel never made with the Transformer like Buzz Lightyear?
The plan is definitely to cover that one at some point!
Speaking Of toys, It would ve awesome if you talk about the cancelled first draft Of the 86 Transformers Movie, the One written even before the 84 cartoon aired out
I had no idea this existed, I can look into this.