Thank you for the video. I was right there with you until the cold front comment. Correct me if I’m wrong but it sounds like you’re saying that temperature drops don’t affect deer movement? If so, I strongly disagree with that. I see deer daily. Most of the time it’s the same deer and when it’s cooler by 5-10° than the previous days, the deer most definitely move later in the mornings and earlier in the evenings. Especially if the cooler weather brings an over cast sky. Once the temperatures heat up after a day or two, the deer movement definitely dwindles back down to early morning and late evening and barely any mid day movement at all.
Thank you, a lot of people will watch this and still swear by the moon phases changing deer movement. Either pappy told them that, or they just so happened to kill a deer during one of those “good phases”.
I’m not a moon hunter either, but if you are using this video to prove that then you will have to agree with weather not moving deer either. I think this “deer science” leaves out a lot of practical factors that make enough of a difference for a hunter trying to get that extra edge. The fact that he is using science to say that a cold front does not improve deer movement is proof to me that deer science is trash when it comes to practical hunting application. I’ve hunted enough to see what my eyes show me!
In my opinion, the moon doesn't make deer move but I think it dictates when as in what time of the day, like morning, afternoon or evening. And cold fronts definitely get big mature bucks moving, when it's warm they just don't move where I am even during the rut, they just move at night. And I've definitely seen deer moving during soft rains or after a hard rain. If I know it's going to rain I just get in a ground blind and watch the parade.
Hours of daylight are important, deer get busier finding food as winter gets closer. I hope the dnr keeps the bait ban on in my county. That alone has resulted many more daylight encounters while on stand.
I think there is bias in this. How about weather cold fronts in relation to daytime vs night movement. That can't be measured by how often they move but as when they move. Also they may still move the same amount but in their bedding area instead vs in other wider ranges in the cold. So many variables. Bottom line is there is a direct correlation with sightings of bucks increasing with colder weather. Ask any hunter around and you'll get the same response.
Kip I don't care what science says, here in the southeast a cool crisp , high pressure, bluebird sky day, moderate to low wind, you better be ready at 4pm, they're coming to feed. This isn't just my 35 years of experience speaking. Collared deer yes, they move all the time regardless of weather, but when it comes to hunting, they're moving further and showing themselves more to hunters in those conditions I mentioned. Also a light drizzle and right after a rain, they're moving more. Weather and Barometric pressure absolutely affect Deer movement regards to hunting, I don't care what Science says. The best most seasoned hunter will say this. I respect what you do, but hunters arent seeing collared deer for the most part.
And you have every right to believe what you believe. We don't mean that people shouldn't get out and hunt just because of certain conditions. If cool crisp high pressure blue bird days are when you like to hunt then get out there and get after um!
The data in some of these studies lacks serious context. I've read some of them in their entirety, and even exchanged emails with the researchers. For example, one of the more famous ones referenced used data from October (pre-rut) because they said the rut makes the data too chaotic. A deers fur changes dramatically from early October to late November. I can 100% guarantee you that temperature influences NOVEMBER deer movement. 15 years of cell cam data supports this notion strongly. Cold weather drives them to eat more (ruminant use digestion to keep warm) and also makes it a lot more comfortable for a deer to move around. I made the researcher a bet. Come to my farm and hunt on warm days. I'll hunt the same number of cold days. We will see who sees more deer. He did not accept.
I don’t care what you say on full moons I manage my 300 acres very carefully I’ve been skunked about 10 times over the last 15 years Always after a full moon That’s literally the only 10 times I have not seen at least 1 usually a dozen or more deer is the day after a full moon…. Just like scientist say a full moon doesn’t affect people As a professional firefighter and emt I have and expect some of the craziest calls I’ve ever gotten on a full moon
99% proven that deer move whenever the hell they want. Science
Thank you for the video. I was right there with you until the cold front comment. Correct me if I’m wrong but it sounds like you’re saying that temperature drops don’t affect deer movement? If so, I strongly disagree with that. I see deer daily. Most of the time it’s the same deer and when it’s cooler by 5-10° than the previous days, the deer most definitely move later in the mornings and earlier in the evenings. Especially if the cooler weather brings an over cast sky. Once the temperatures heat up after a day or two, the deer movement definitely dwindles back down to early morning and late evening and barely any mid day movement at all.
I've always had bad luck with full moon phases here in west Central MN
It's got to be hard bringing good information like this to the masses. Keep up the good work.
Much appreciated! We'll keep it up!!
Empirical data shows a strong inverse correlation between deer movement and my presence in my treestand.
Lol that’s right!!
I totally agree! Great data, great video! Thank you.
Ronny,
Texas
Thank you, a lot of people will watch this and still swear by the moon phases changing deer movement. Either pappy told them that, or they just so happened to kill a deer during one of those “good phases”.
I’m not a moon hunter either, but if you are using this video to prove that then you will have to agree with weather not moving deer either. I think this “deer science” leaves out a lot of practical factors that make enough of a difference for a hunter trying to get that extra edge. The fact that he is using science to say that a cold front does not improve deer movement is proof to me that deer science is trash when it comes to practical hunting application. I’ve hunted enough to see what my eyes show me!
@@joasmullett2213 agreed it’s nots a perfected science.
In my opinion, the moon doesn't make deer move but I think it dictates when as in what time of the day, like morning, afternoon or evening. And cold fronts definitely get big mature bucks moving, when it's warm they just don't move where I am even during the rut, they just move at night. And I've definitely seen deer moving during soft rains or after a hard rain. If I know it's going to rain I just get in a ground blind and watch the parade.
You got it! Good luck this season!!
Hours of daylight are important, deer get busier finding food as winter gets closer.
I hope the dnr keeps the bait ban on in my county. That alone has resulted many more daylight encounters while on stand.
I think there is bias in this. How about weather cold fronts in relation to daytime vs night movement. That can't be measured by how often they move but as when they move. Also they may still move the same amount but in their bedding area instead vs in other wider ranges in the cold. So many variables. Bottom line is there is a direct correlation with sightings of bucks increasing with colder weather. Ask any hunter around and you'll get the same response.
Barometric
Pretty sure the moon has alot to do with movement. I think it determines what times of day they move. Aint gona say they move more or less just times
And a lot of hunters would agree with that. Kip was just stating what data points have been collected correlating moon phases to deer movement.
Kip I don't care what science says, here in the southeast a cool crisp , high pressure, bluebird sky day, moderate to low wind, you better be ready at 4pm, they're coming to feed. This isn't just my 35 years of experience speaking. Collared deer yes, they move all the time regardless of weather, but when it comes to hunting, they're moving further and showing themselves more to hunters in those conditions I mentioned. Also a light drizzle and right after a rain, they're moving more. Weather and Barometric pressure absolutely affect Deer movement regards to hunting, I don't care what Science says. The best most seasoned hunter will say this. I respect what you do, but hunters arent seeing collared deer for the most part.
And you have every right to believe what you believe. We don't mean that people shouldn't get out and hunt just because of certain conditions. If cool crisp high pressure blue bird days are when you like to hunt then get out there and get after um!
Got a nice log cabin 120 acre farm forsale in brown county ohio, whitetail country
The data in some of these studies lacks serious context. I've read some of them in their entirety, and even exchanged emails with the researchers.
For example, one of the more famous ones referenced used data from October (pre-rut) because they said the rut makes the data too chaotic.
A deers fur changes dramatically from early October to late November.
I can 100% guarantee you that temperature influences NOVEMBER deer movement. 15 years of cell cam data supports this notion strongly.
Cold weather drives them to eat more (ruminant use digestion to keep warm) and also makes it a lot more comfortable for a deer to move around.
I made the researcher a bet. Come to my farm and hunt on warm days. I'll hunt the same number of cold days. We will see who sees more deer.
He did not accept.
Is it better before or after rain
Were these studies done on free roaming deer ?
Yes
Next thing you know they'll be telling us our magic sprays don't do jack to cover our scents.
They don't
I don’t care what you say on full moons
I manage my 300 acres very carefully
I’ve been skunked about 10 times over the last 15 years
Always after a full moon
That’s literally the only 10 times I have not seen at least 1 usually a dozen or more deer is the day after a full moon….
Just like scientist say a full moon doesn’t affect people
As a professional firefighter and emt I have and expect some of the craziest calls I’ve ever gotten on a full moon