Adrien Broner vs. Roberto Duran: Who wins? Mayweather Boxing Club answers
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- Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2017
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Jeff Mayweather asks some of the guys inside the Mayweather Boxing Club who would win if Adrien Broner took on a prime Roberto Duran. Lou Del Valle, Lionell Thompson, Andrew Tabiti and more give their answers
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Floyd Sr. " Man, Cmon man!" 😂 😂 😂
Hahahahaha
Maaaan lookey here
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol senior had best accurate answer say no more
I see it this way: Broner had no answer for Maidana. Everything Maidana can do, Duran can do better.
I see it this way: Broner, and Duran?!? Pssssh gtfo here!
#Facts
Duran can do 1000 times betterm come on dog
@@daldal2664wrong duran was outdated
@@YesBoy-bf8wn watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
what an insult! ab couldnt even hold a 40yr old pacmans jockstrap!
@adam smith 😂😂😂
@Jesus Pernia at any weight i favor duran all the way as much as i love pacman duran is that good!!!
Luckily for Broner its only a fantasy fight.Broner should never be mentioned in the same breath as Roberto " hands of Stone" Duran.
The crazy thing is...... with all respect Broner is very good but Duran all day and night. Shouldn't be even put in the same sentence.......
Mayweather Sr.’s reaction is priceless
Looney
Is that a real question ? I mean….AB wouldn’t last 3 Rounds against a Prime Duran
Yea cause broner would destroy him to advanced
@@ascendediamBroner is quite limited. Get out of here.😂
@@theb2694 keep laughing at yourself and lying showing you've never seen full rounds of broner and his era and you're not sane, I have and 80s in full rounds and they look very basic and flawed compared to 90s even, I don't care about your bad vision, you also can't make fighters more advanced or that video doesn't exist proving you wrong,so you wasted time making that odd comment to the wrong person
@@ascendediam You haven't actually broken down why today's fighters are better than the ones from the 70 and 80s. Most fighters today don't know how to fight effectively on the inside. Is that one of the advancements you are talking about?
@@theb2694 by you using that odd ridiculous comment of i not explaining anything to you shows you're a follower
he doesn't have to breakdown anything to you cause he isn't you're dad/friend/trainer/teacher so that means nothing you say matters, nothing I say matters, what does matter is my vision can see advances in eras and outdated tech, and flaws of each,
which means I only care about my vision seeing correctly I don't care about yours not seeing correctly, my comments and videos are for the sane and who can see good, you obviously aren't either so you can move on
Duran vs Mayweather Jr would have been a better question.
Duran is a better version of Maidana
@@KingSukuna Duran is an all time great. Maidana had a great career but they ain't even in the same league.
@@h4z They’re not. Duran didn’t avoid anyone & floyd cherry picked a bunch of old guys and still lost to Maidana & Pacquaio
@@KingSukuna lol nice trolling
@@KingSukuna hard to take seriously someone whose username says a sport sucks.
this whole video is just AB meme material 😂
Hilarious. This isn't even a question!
I don’t have nothing to say about the fight they are talking about, but I just had a damn good day hanging out at the Mayweather gym. Jeff and all the other guys were super nice to me. Damn I had a great time. Thanks again Jeff for taking the time to talk and laugh with me. This is a life long memory for me bro. Take care.
What about Floyd Mayweather Sr.? They say he just running around hitting them with the mitts but I think they lying, I think they challenge him or accept his challenge to throw down
Forget Durans offensive power,Broner wouldn't be able to land a good punch and if he did he wouldn't have hurt Duran
watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
How can that even be a question? A legend against a nobody??
Opened up the comment section I see, will defo build the channel.
we never took them down. it was youtube. we fought for 2 years to get them
@@MayweatherChannel Bastards
@@MayweatherChannel They thought they were gonna win a fight with the Mayweathers👊
Duran as a lightweight is virtually unbeatable in his prime of course!!
Yea in a outdated era
@@ascendediam In any era.. we’re talking about Duran. Do your research..
@@Himlee335 stop repeating other slow followers who don't watch full rounds,,fight film has a video hagler ggg look that up,you will see hagler is very dated compared wasnt duran in that era and leonard which would also mean they were dated even compared to the average 90s?,but I need to do research???,on what exactly??????????
@@Himlee335 I have a video of srr compared to the average 70s that whole era looked like novices,I have a video comparing ali to the 80s where they advanced his style by a good amount coming,but I need to do research?,when that's all I do Is see what each era did and didn't see how you shouldn't troll the wrong person saying odd stuff?
Oh you meant yourself needs research....next time proof read before you post
@@Himlee335 all those guys coming in this era would automatically be taught more implying they were outdated,would it not???
Ab would be on his way to the hospital after that fight 😂
watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
I couldn't quit laughing at this
40 year old Duran would beat prime Broner in 5 rounds
Strongly disagree with that.
No way it takes Duran anything close to 5 rounds.
@@humann5682 70 year old Duran wins by decision
@@humann5682 smoking a old ass Duran beat a dangerous young Iran Barkley at middleweight 😂😂😂
@@johnnyvibezzz6372 he’s saying broner wouldn’t even last 5 rounds
@@cade9173 I see
Roger's answer to this would of been interesting
Tabiti smiling once he hears Broner's name lol
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Haha silly question duran would destroy broner.
Outdated so yea duran loses
One of the most ridiculous questions EVER
Broner WHO? Against MANOS DE PIEDRA??? hahahaha!
My reaction was pretty much the same as Lionell Thompson's.
The walk to the ring would last longer than any kind of boxing match between Adrien Broner and Roberto Duran.
He gets the same look from them all...The "Youre joking right" Look
May weather vs Duran that’s a good question
The looks alone let you know this isn't a real question.
Fantasy fight prime vs prime...
No need, Duran wins if they fight now 2021
Lol
Sr. Looked at him like you really asked that Q.!?
C.mon mannnn!! haha!! Sr said it perfect!
I believe this was put out there so people can read and hear how RD would destroy "Many Problems" Broner and to Market a continuous bad reputation towrads Adrien " Please let your hands Go" Broner.
no. it was put out for the same reason we put out "who really won between broner and pacquiao?" because he says dumb stuff. i know it's hard for some of you to understand this, but floyd has no influence over our content
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Joke of a question loved Roberto Duran and as great as he was I still think in his prime only Floyd
Floyd vs Duran in the 70's easily w for Duran, but in the 2010's I know mafia would've robbed Duran by split decision.
Roberto Duran vs ab 😂😂(shit)
Normally it takes Floyd Senior 5 mins to respond to a question but on the Duran vs Broner question he uncharacteristic responded with a quickness and said Duran.
"Hell no I don't!"
rolly in the back all sassy
Manos d piedra would give broner a concussion fr
WTH. No love for Twin???
@2:10 Rolly romero spotting
Comedy gold
Smh that quest no brainer Duran allll day
The only lightweight that could’ve competed with Roberto Duran was lightweight Shane mosey. And Duran beats him.
Maybe De La Hoya, Shane in my opinion has the style that Duran loved, opponents who likes to clinch was a candy for Manos de Piedra.
Hector Camacho
@@smokeyjoe795No way.
Broner wouldn’t even show up to a press conference with Roberto😂
Duran’s era was murder row, He’s cut from a different cloth.
watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
We all know AB would beat that boy
🤣
Only you do coz you’re a dumbass 😂
@@kumulsfan8090 it's called trolling
@@kingrahul1151 😂😂
Don't know much about BOXING ..LOL
Hands of Stones.
Outdated
Roberto Duran woulda dominated him
To outdated duran was so no
Toss up? lol no, get a body bag for Broner...
duran was outdated......
Duram vs Mayweather 😂
Duram 💪🔥🔥🔥
The real broner who fought with his real style beats duran easy only crazy idiots say a outdated duran wins
Roberto would pound AB
To outdated
AB has skills no matter if you like him or not but he is not beating Duran. Even compared to other elite boxers , duran was a complete savage. Broner never faced a beast like that.
Hahahaha they really asked that Question 😂😂😂😂
That shouldn’t even b a question
watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
Cruz got robbed tank lost
Why is that even out there get real Duran would beat him now lol
Roberto Duran. Hands the stone.
😎👍
Loses outdated
This is a joke question, right?
When you running low on fantasy fight topics.
This was 4-5 years ago when AB was a top prospect that had already grabbed some titles.
Adrian is good, but way too unfocused to beat Duran. Duran would KO him.
He stopped being considered top prospect when he got humbled by Maidana. This videos is from 2017 a year later after Porter bullied Bronner lol There was no hope for AB at this moment.
Broner wins 11-2
🤣
@@jdh3956yea funny cause broner would win faster
@@ascendediam 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jdh3956 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jdh3956 watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that,laugh at being exposed
Duran is the best lightweight ever. Even Floyd Mayweather says he is top 5 goat. And Floyd said he wouldn't have wanted to fight Duran at 135.
Floyd never said he wouldn’t fight Duran
@@surveying482 He didn't have to say it, if he ducked prime Pacquiao imagine what he would've said to avoid Duran at 135 or 147. Duran was too much of a man for him.
Lol. What?
My God broner can't even beat good fighters today, Duran would ABSOLUTELY KILL HIM
watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
Roberto all the way
Outdated
Duran held his own against Marvin hagler, who would KILL broner.
And Duran was coming up from a lighter weight division to challenge Hagler as a natural middleweight
@@Ijustinsultedyou and duran was coming up from a lighter weight division to challenge Hagler as a natural middleweight
@@Ijustinsultedyou The only time this bobble host should be asking why is if someone actually picks broner. This fool was actually asking people why they're picking duran, as if it needs explaining
@@Ijustinsultedyou YES PLUS HE WAS OLDER..
@@Himlee335 your slow
Duran knocks out broner the 1st time he lands some power shots, this wouldn't even be close🤣!!
Yes the fiction updated duran
Adrien Broner couldn’t beat Roberto Duran with a baseball bat. Marcos Maidana beat AB up pretty good and he ain’t no Roberto Duran by a long shot. Roberto Duran is in my opinion the greatest lightweight to ever put gloves on. Roberto Duran moved up 2 weight classes to be the first man to beat the great Sugar Ray Leonard. AB wouldn’t stand a chance but to his credit he would’ve at least fought Duran. AB will fight anybody.
Duran was to outdated you're slow
DURAN WAS THE ONLY BOXER EVER TO BEAT SRL IN HIS PRIME SO YOU ARE TOP LEVEL RIGHT
@@STUARTBYRNE-ks8el you're slow
Duran would eat Broners food
Sure would being outdated
Floyd in this era would beat him.
Nope
No stop lying to yo self
@rogermartin798 wrong to advanced
@@christopherzarate6173lying how?,floyd way to advanced
You’re joking right? Duran fights Broner on Wide World of Sports on free TV with Howard Cosell with the call. Cosell reminds the viewers that Duran, who hasn’t fought in awhile, needs the work and the viewer should not be fooled into thinking that this unheralded, unknown kid, Broner, has a chance of upsetting the Lightweight king. Duran should dispose of this overmatched opponent well before the 15th round arrives.
Srl vs. Duran full match, both are mostly brawling, they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent, they usually throw shots with the same patterns, and they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl, they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
Also their feet movement is very sluggish/moving in straight lines
I can give the exact way broner and the guy who he fought who advanced duran style by alot
No broner style existed in the 80s. What you will find if you watch people who fought in all his matches is that you will find multiple people who fought with some stuff broner did. You won't find one person who did all of what broner did,which makes your pick for duran invalid and odd.
Duran!
Yea loses
Lmao 😂😂😂😂
Almost an insult to ask broner vs duran. Duran would of killed him.
To outdated duran was you're slow
I supone thats quesitos is a joke
duran is mexican dont ever forget that
They all know AB is a joke.
This must be a joke, Broner vs Duran? Really?
watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
Broner wouldn’t even had made it to the ring. Duran would of gotten under his skin long before n broner would bail
watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
Roberto would break Broner within 4 or 5 rounds. Broner is soft on the inside.
watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
Adrian Brooner can't fight with Duran.
Forget this clown who says Duran couldn't carry his jock strap. Boner is a waste of space. By the way Floyd could not survive the intensity, strength, power combined with speed of Duran. Not to mention the defense and allusiveness that others heralded like Leonard, Palomino, Hagler who said Duran would be too much for Floyd. Wake up upstarts.
watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
Jeff just ran out of s..t to ask.
Broner would beat him and that whole era easy
he literally lost to maidana...
That quote makes no sense cause maid is way more advanced than duran was which is why he would lose
Roberto 👏 of stone duran ..all the way..
Yes he loses outdated
Duran for sure n doubt
@@cmoneytheman don’t talk boxing with me your trash
@@cmoneytheman you can’t repeat me 😂🤣
@@Sldumas1983 you can't repeat me 😂🤣
@@cmoneytheman 🤦🏾♂️
@@Sldumas1983 🤦
Maidana Broner all over again. 😂
Duran wasn't as advanced as maidana so no try watching full rounds
The only time this bobble head host should be asking why is if someone actually picks Broner. This fool was actually asking people why they’re picking Duran, as if it needs explaining
@@ascendediam The only thing foolish is the comment you just made. Broner is a first class ham & egger that’s never even beaten a Hall of Famer. Actually he’s never even beat a borderline great fighter. Your lack of knowledge for the sport of boxing is embarrassing yourself. Head back to the kitchen girlie
The only time this bobble host should be asking why is if someone actually picks broner. This fool was actually asking people why they're picking duran, as if it needs explaining
@@Ijustinsultedyou the only thing foolish is the comment you just made. Broner is a first class ham & egger that's never even beaten a hall of fame. Actually he's never even beat a borderline great fighter, your lack of knowledge of the sport is embarrassing yourself. Head back to the kitchen girlie
The only time this bobble host should be asking why is if someone actually picks broner. This fool was actually asking people why they're picking duran, as if it needs explaining
The only time this bobble host should be asking why is if someone actually picks broner. This fool was actually asking people why they're picking duran, as if it needs explaining
Duran, today, tomorrow, and every day.
@@ascendediam See how you changed my mind? "Duran, today, tomorrow, and every day"
@@thewatchman6074 part of being ascended is being able to speak to the opposition with words listen or read their lies which they try to use to alter video, and being ascended means after I stop speaking to the enemy their word's means nothing,
the footage of the fighters still fight the same as they always showed which means video I watch and clearly can see good and that I make side by side showing advances is the only thing that matters
That hurts, doesn't it? Person who isn't sane, person who thinks which is what he imagined is true,person who thinks he can alter how fighters fight on video
Adrian is a tomato can 🥫
Duran loses to outdated
STOP IT😡
That’s the stupidest question that’s has ever been asked
We have asked plenty of stupid questions. Don't be so sure of that
@@MayweatherChannel lol
This is an insult. Broner is a bust and Duran is one of the All Time Greats.
watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
Broner give Roberto all he could handle....he wouldnt win but..... loses a decision...like to man says...ever since the Chino fight.
No broner would win
Are we seriously asking this question? You shouldn’t even mention Broner’s name in the same breath as Duran’s. 🙄
watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
Duran would smoke him. Probably round 2 or 3
watching srl vs. Duran full match,both are mostly brawling,they have their feet mostly when they throw shots planted right in front of their opponent,they usually throw shots with the same patterns,they use angles but they aren't complex, a lot of times instead of using defense they brawl,they look hesitant a lot as unsure.
video on leonard prime vs 97 shows exactly the same 80s Leonard, way less advanced and very flawed even compared to his last match In 97, and fighters even became more advanced in 00 and then 10 years after that, and than 10 more years after that, see how you shouldn't say nonsense in public
Duran fought greats from 135 up to 168, he fought in a golden era .. broner shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence! Duran was a lightweight and went the distance with a prime Marvin hagler at middleweight!! F***ing broner 😂😂😂 floyd sr like “c’mon man” lol 😂 . I’d pick Duran against floyd jr, 15 rnd fight Duran would break him down and take him out late.. Duran fought much better and tougher competition that were in their PRIME when Duran fought them!! Floyd never fought an elite p4p fighter in his own era that was in his PRIME! He made excuses and waited out until it was right time for floyd.. big difference in Duran’s cv and Floyd’s if you analyse it PROPERLY! I’d like someone just one p4p fighter who in his prime that floyd fought?? … none!!
Fight film has a video comparing hagler to ggg,wasn't that the same era duran fought?,and In that comparison hag is missing mutiple angles ggg used/timing isn't as good or fluidity,broner would destroy duran as would the average person from this era
"Hands Of Stone"Roberto Duran by fifth round ko.
Wrong to outdated would be beat easy lunatic
High guard user that feints,parries,and can clinch outdated? Maybe you're the lunie.
What does Sugar Ray have to do with this?
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@dashauncarney9651 billy vs ali was the updated louis watch that match and watch a full joe match see if you can see the comparisons
Don't look at the punch tech cause it doesn't matter look at the body movement stance and fluidity
Earlier on my laptop and im watching ray side by side and a man named Clemente from 1978s vs danny is 125 and is moving way more fluid and way more advanced he is using feints on top of able to combo faster on top of using lateral movement
how about carlos a middleweight as ray was using lateral movement smoothly able to pick off shots from range smoothly and duck and counter smoothly
ray looks sloopy stiff making mutiple mistakes im watchin him now vs joe he looks nothing like these guys s
ray and this era looks to be very over extending alot of times to the body and are very hesitant in most movements
they dont fight from range much,they leave themselves open alot
alot of times will just throw to the body and not protect themselves the carlos era was able to protect to body with 1 hand while punching to the body
they use mostly counters when up close,the lateral movement is very basic they dont seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly they have to stop then punch most the time and their feet are mostly tiptoeing instead of carlos era where its like their a quarterback ready to throw the ball
these wasnt big name guys but they clearly as i watched are were more advanced then rays era on top of being more fluid and made less mistakes
Ali would beat that whole era easy and people he fought would to
So doesn't matter what your fiction ver of joe that never existed
The real joe and that whole era fight like video showed
Broner is nowhere near being close to Durans level
Fight film hagler vs ggg watch that you will see hag is way to outdated in tech/angles used/fluidity,same era leonard and duran fought in wasnt it?,so obviously that whole era is very basic
The most stupidest question in boxing history