Pat, this was my eight year old when I first got him nearly two years ago. With much help - very much including yours he has become a fine horse and partner. Thanks
"Spotted Fever " LOLOL .....yep, very aptly named.....looks to be a real handful.....thanks Pat for being willing to help these horses.....OnWard......
"The tip of his eye is pupils" . Thanks for that connection. I am excited to watch his progress. Thank goodness he is owned by Gabby and being rehabbed with help from 'the best in the west'. Its all 'west' if you circle the planet. 😂 in the right direction .
I love working horses but don't think I'll ever be able to do it again. I broke my back in a bad accident (not horse related) about four years ago. Now I live vicariously through you and your videos. Thank you so much, I really miss it.
I’ve been working on a mare that was beaten a LOT. It’s taken me two years to get her better but she still is reactive to certain hand movements. I’ll never give up though, she’s a fantastic ride in the roughest country.
It depends on the situation and the horse. If it's a regular, uncomplicated horse that licks and chews, it's relaxed. When it's a wary, defensive horse that you're feeling your way around, beware the 'lick and chew'!
My 24 yr. old TWH gelding was terrified of everything when I got him almost 11 yrs. ago. It took us a LONG time to trust each other but he is a different horse now. He still gets spooked once in a while, (4 wheelers are horse eating monsters!) but he spooks in place instead of loosing his mind. I'm not a horse trainer by a LONG shot, just watched a LOT of videos from real horse trainers like you to learn and listen and try! He's a pretty Appy, by the way!
This, in my opinion, demonstrates the quality of the methods. Yes you've shown how one can take a horse from hackmore to bridle, achieve a great connection where the horse is pretty much responding to your thoughts, and just make a better companion for your journeys. But, this is where the quality of the methods, and EXPERIENCE using them, shines. Having worked with horses that were not started right or just plain messed up and abused, it is more difficult to bring them back to a healthy relationship than if you are starting from scratch. Bien hecho, amigo.
Thank you you are helping me tremendously.. I have abused Horse situation. This is the worst encounter I’ve ever had a Horse that is always in flight mode. I have a long road ahead of me, but I’m far from a quitter. I appreciate your analogy of Horse behavior.
Love that the horse responded so well to the owner. I also have a horse that most people can't catch, but that same horse will come running to Me if she hears me singing in the pasture :)
I never had a horse but bought a one and gave to a friend to keep . I started watching your videos first time this weekend and amazed how much I learnt . It is so wonderful subject. I really appreciated what you are sharing to the world . God bless you !!!
He's stunning! I'm so stoked to watch this! Best to all involved and much love! Thank you Pat! I hope to work with you one day to learn everything I can. First, double hip replacements.
Just found your channel. I had horses that I rescued and I had horses that I bought.. right now I'm horseless living in california and I miss it so living vicariously =))
Few people understand just how dangerous this horse is. If the average horse owner tried this, it would be a short time to the hospital emergency room.
Love that you are called BS..on licking and chewing..and especially Rescue..by getting a dog, cat, horse, chicken..from unknown backgrounds..I am still saving heroes for people that knowing risk their lives..in events they are not especially trained for or expected..like it is not their jobs..
Thank you so much, Sir. I am working with a very, very explosive mare. Cleating her hyper hormone issues plus following your experienced inspirations. If you have some experience with dagerous mares ( hormone issues) I would love to get your advice. Regards to all of you from the north east of Germany.😊
Another excellent video. So glad you pointed out about the licking, I hear that so often. Also enjoyed the joke about the chewing and drooling. In another video you talked about working them or exposing them until you saw a change. Today, I did not recognize the change you were looking for, unless you were comparing it to the behavior of the previous day. So my question is why did you end todays session when the horse was still rather braced, without lowering his head?
Now I would like to ask your opinion on something. Now my current horse was very much like this one when I got him 5 years ago. And maybe just a little bit more than that one. Scared of everything. Now he’s a pretty calm guy now. But there’s a lot of work and a lot of miles between us. I don’t need a halter much anymore. Just call him to me, put a little neck string on him and he knows where to be when he’s walking next to me. I try to work a lot on the principle of liberty. Not the dancing to a Disney soundtrack but practical liberty. Will he lead without any contact, stand where I ask without needing a ground tie using a lead rope or rein. And he’s become fairly developed. But there is still some of that old anxieties and worries that pop up sometimes. We’re on 2300 acres. Lots of different things pop up. He’s around cattle, and sometimes people different horses and terrain and challenges. But we have a feral hog problem. It’s all been fenced with hog fence, we have hunters and traps. And slowly getting rid of them. But he’s terrified of them. He’ll smell them and knows they are there. Even though they don’t want anything to do with us and are quiet and hiding. That’s when the old stuff comes back and he can get away from you if you aren’t quick and shut him down. And sometimes it can be just a little noise that gets him worried. I’ve been told that sometimes you can never truly get rid of those old worries and fears but only minimize them. Which I have. So how do you work with them when you are some miles out with no one around and some of that happens? It’s not like I can just set him up around the hogs that would be the wrong thing. But how do you change their focus back to you and your leadership. I guess that’s the question. It’s how can I change his mind to understand that when he’s with me that he’s ok and we’ll make it through whatever challenges he has? I’m in it for however long as it takes I don’t care about time. I would just like to figure out a way to help him through it and to at some point get over it. Cause the feral hogs will always be around, minimized but they are everywhere around here. And when we come across 30 of them coming down a creek or out of the woods sometimes you just have to hang on for the ride. Cause he’ll spin around and go full speed run. Or you gotta be quick enough to get him shut down but keep him in balance so he won’t go down on you.
@@claudias4601 sometimes. Just depends on how worried he gets. Feral hogs and horses don’t mix well. Especially the javalina types we’ve got here. Most of the time they don’t want trouble or want to be noticed. They’ll get quiet and not move. Hide in the woods. We was out the other day. Horse knew one was around couldn’t see it. Kept moving on. And sometimes with some encouragement. That hog and probably way more was five feet from us. Was quiet and hiding in the woods and brush. Walked right passed it. Horse wasn’t too worried. But thing is when there’s 40 of them or more around it’s not a lot of fun. Gets kinda dangerous. He’s good with the domesticated ones here. But not the feral ones and neither am I. For the most part they want to be hidden and left alone but they are very aggressive and would eat you alive. They don’t really care. My question was how do you prepare them to keep them brave and yet also controllable when say 40 of them come out of nowhere. It’s a real thing here in south Texas. So the horse doesn’t lose its mind and how to get them back into focus. See that’s the problem. How to present a truly bad situation for the horse and keep them mentally together without too much stress and trouble. And he’s been exposed to it all and everything else in the world here for five years. Still scared of the feral hog’s. And he’s a pretty calm and brave guy these days just not so much in a situation near or around the feral hog’s.
@@kevinbailey1097 Grew up on a ranch in the TX hill country, so I understand. Ran into my share of javelinas. We preferred the mountain lions to the javelinas. 😉Feral hogs weren't much of a thing in our area when I was there. Still, my dad made me practice getting my horse to go from a trot or gallup into circles to get her mind back on me and to slowly get her slowed down. Not a one reign stop, just going back to the circles we practiced at home, getting smaller as I could slow her down but maintaining forward motion so we could take off if the situation required it. I practice that with my horse every time before going out to ride out in any of the pastures by myself. If I was writing and suddenly her ears were pointed forward and I could feel her tensing up we immediately went into circles. If I could see what was scaring her and it wasn't a big deal, I'd make her back up several steps, stand and breathe or go back to circles until she relaxed. Only had one encounter with a mountain lion in the circles worked then. With 40 feral hogs, I might have wanted her to run. 😆 Good luck. I hope you find something that works for you and your horse.
@@claudias4601 yeah we can get into circles. And I always do my pre ride checks before heading out. If we come across a large group of them I let him go where he wants to go. Which is the opposite direction. And take the ride. He’ll peter out in a quarter mile or so. Because he’s a ranch horse and he’s got to deal with things he may not be ok with was why I thought I’d ask Pat how he’d handle it. He’s a pretty calm and brave guy and very smart horse. Just gets really worried when he gets close to the hog’s. Just trying to figure out how to get him passed the worry and understand as long as I’m with him he’s ok.
Hello. I used to know a horse very similar to him. A day, hé runned into my back , kicked my arm and broke it. He just hated humans. Sorry for my english, Îm French. Anyway this horse had told me before these attack « don’t approch, Îm the chief. » He runned and charged me exactly as a bull . But this day I didn’t moved and frightened him shouting. I should have learn the lesson !
Pat, what's the purpose of hanging a horse? I've used it before, but I want to make sure I understand it. I've got a 5 year old monster of a paint who I still can't get on. Every time I throw a blanket or saddle on him, his head goes straight up. He never relaxes. I've saddled and unsaddled him a thousand times and he still does it, even after untracking him and doing ground work with him. I could use advice about that, too.
He said why- he can choose to stand and relax or only walk a small circle where he has to cross hind footfall over the other hind foot, (which disengages the motor, engages the left brain- my explanation).
probably because it's mostly just blablabla to horses. He talks body language to them instead. Personally I did talk to my horse, but realizing he may at best get the tone of it, maybe calm him down. Most people who talk to horses really overdo it. While riding, my only verbals are tong smacking to go faster and whoah to slow down. My horse knew the sound of my boots on the pavement tho, that was cool, he started to whinny when he heard my steps outside the barn (not for other people walking by).
Pat, this was my eight year old when I first got him nearly two years ago. With much help - very much including yours he has become a fine horse and partner. Thanks
I love your dry humor and sarcasm!!❤
Yes, please, keep us informed. Thank you, Gabby, for letting us watch.
"Spotted Fever " LOLOL .....yep, very aptly named.....looks to be a real handful.....thanks Pat for being willing to help these horses.....OnWard......
"The tip of his eye is pupils" . Thanks for that connection. I am excited to watch his progress. Thank goodness he is owned by Gabby and being rehabbed with help from 'the best in the west'. Its all 'west' if you circle the planet. 😂 in the right direction .
oh he is so cute and so scared... thank you for being so gentle with him
I love working horses but don't think I'll ever be able to do it again. I broke my back in a bad accident (not horse related) about four years ago. Now I live vicariously through you and your videos. Thank you so much, I really miss it.
I’ve been working on a mare that was beaten a LOT. It’s taken me two years to get her better but she still is reactive to certain hand movements. I’ll never give up though, she’s a fantastic ride in the roughest country.
I'm glad you pointed out the "licking and chewing" b.s... Not many people understand it.
It depends on the situation and the horse. If it's a regular, uncomplicated horse that licks and chews, it's relaxed.
When it's a wary, defensive horse that you're feeling your way around, beware the 'lick and chew'!
I’m glad I found y’all at the beginning of my life with horses.
My 24 yr. old TWH gelding was terrified of everything when I got him almost 11 yrs. ago. It took us a LONG time to trust each other but he is a different horse now. He still gets spooked once in a while, (4 wheelers are horse eating monsters!) but he spooks in place instead of loosing his mind. I'm not a horse trainer by a LONG shot, just watched a LOT of videos from real horse trainers like you to learn and listen and try! He's a pretty Appy, by the way!
Is he gaited?
There's enough climatic videos out there, and with plenty of examples of how to create horses like this.
That touches me. Yes yes yes the best deal first. God bless you Pat
This, in my opinion, demonstrates the quality of the methods. Yes you've shown how one can take a horse from hackmore to bridle, achieve a great connection where the horse is pretty much responding to your thoughts, and just make a better companion for your journeys. But, this is where the quality of the methods, and EXPERIENCE using them, shines. Having worked with horses that were not started right or just plain messed up and abused, it is more difficult to bring them back to a healthy relationship than if you are starting from scratch. Bien hecho, amigo.
Homer is a looker! Hope ypu can help him and look forward to seeing more videos
Thank you you are helping me tremendously.. I have abused Horse situation. This is the worst encounter I’ve ever had a Horse that is always in flight mode. I have a long road ahead of me, but I’m far from a quitter.
I appreciate your analogy of Horse behavior.
Love that the horse responded so well to the owner. I also have a horse that most people can't catch, but that same horse will come running to Me if she hears me singing in the pasture :)
ooooh Gabby, you just got him the best help he could ever have...
glad you are helping homer and gabby
just watching works out some of my kinks too
I never had a horse but bought a one and gave to a friend to keep .
I started watching your videos first time this weekend and amazed how much I learnt .
It is so wonderful subject.
I really appreciated what you are sharing to the world .
God bless you !!!
He's stunning! I'm so stoked to watch this! Best to all involved and much love! Thank you Pat! I hope to work with you one day to learn everything I can. First, double hip replacements.
Excellent as usual
Thank you for these videos.
Thank you for sharing.
Great video! Thank you. I learned alot of excellent information.
Fascinating one! Very interested to see the progression. Thanks for sharing once again, and anti-climatic is lovely ;)
Super cute horse!!!!
Just found your channel. I had horses that I rescued and I had horses that I bought.. right now I'm horseless living in california and I miss it so living vicariously =))
Look forward to this!! Thanks! Sounds like my project horse.😊
So sad but with time patience and kindness❤❤❤❤
Thanks!
So happy I found you. I have a new horse that has been abused and she is afraid of everything. It will be a long road for sure.
Steve Young Horsemanship has good videos about that, too.
Steve Young is a lot like this, always calm with the horse.
Few people understand just how dangerous this horse is. If the average horse owner tried this, it would be a short time to the hospital emergency room.
Excellent 👍
Thank you
Pat & Deb = gods.❤❤❤❤ So much love, for you two, Homer & Ronan!
Love that you are called BS..on licking and chewing..and especially Rescue..by getting a dog, cat, horse, chicken..from unknown backgrounds..I am still saving heroes for people that knowing risk their lives..in events they are not especially trained for or expected..like it is not their jobs..
Such wisdom cannot come from books😅😅😅😅
Thank you so much, Sir. I am working with a very, very explosive mare. Cleating her hyper hormone issues plus following your experienced inspirations.
If you have some experience with dagerous mares ( hormone issues) I would love to get your advice.
Regards to all of you from the north east of Germany.😊
Great video how can I help my 7 years gelding to get over being watchy. He is constantly looking for danger
Another excellent video. So glad you pointed out about the licking, I hear that so often. Also enjoyed the joke about the chewing and drooling. In another video you talked about working them or exposing them until you saw a change. Today, I did not recognize the change you were looking for, unless you were comparing it to the behavior of the previous day. So my question is why did you end todays session when the horse was still rather braced, without lowering his head?
He was so much changed from the day before- he couldn’t stand still just 10 hours earlier- so he made it just by not running away.
Just to clarify misunderstandings, did you actually tie the horses head to its tail?
Now I would like to ask your opinion on something. Now my current horse was very much like this one when I got him 5 years ago. And maybe just a little bit more than that one. Scared of everything. Now he’s a pretty calm guy now. But there’s a lot of work and a lot of miles between us.
I don’t need a halter much anymore. Just call him to me, put a little neck string on him and he knows where to be when he’s walking next to me. I try to work a lot on the principle of liberty. Not the dancing to a Disney soundtrack but practical liberty. Will he lead without any contact, stand where I ask without needing a ground tie using a lead rope or rein.
And he’s become fairly developed. But there is still some of that old anxieties and worries that pop up sometimes. We’re on 2300 acres. Lots of different things pop up. He’s around cattle, and sometimes people different horses and terrain and challenges. But we have a feral hog problem. It’s all been fenced with hog fence, we have hunters and traps. And slowly getting rid of them. But he’s terrified of them. He’ll smell them and knows they are there. Even though they don’t want anything to do with us and are quiet and hiding.
That’s when the old stuff comes back and he can get away from you if you aren’t quick and shut him down. And sometimes it can be just a little noise that gets him worried. I’ve been told that sometimes you can never truly get rid of those old worries and fears but only minimize them. Which I have. So how do you work with them when you are some miles out with no one around and some of that happens? It’s not like I can just set him up around the hogs that would be the wrong thing. But how do you change their focus back to you and your leadership. I guess that’s the question. It’s how can I change his mind to understand that when he’s with me that he’s ok and we’ll make it through whatever challenges he has? I’m in it for however long as it takes I don’t care about time. I would just like to figure out a way to help him through it and to at some point get over it. Cause the feral hogs will always be around, minimized but they are everywhere around here. And when we come across 30 of them coming down a creek or out of the woods sometimes you just have to hang on for the ride. Cause he’ll spin around and go full speed run. Or you gotta be quick enough to get him shut down but keep him in balance so he won’t go down on you.
Can you keep him going forward, but in small circles?
@@claudias4601 sometimes. Just depends on how worried he gets. Feral hogs and horses don’t mix well. Especially the javalina types we’ve got here. Most of the time they don’t want trouble or want to be noticed. They’ll get quiet and not move. Hide in the woods. We was out the other day. Horse knew one was around couldn’t see it. Kept moving on. And sometimes with some encouragement. That hog and probably way more was five feet from us. Was quiet and hiding in the woods and brush. Walked right passed it. Horse wasn’t too worried. But thing is when there’s 40 of them or more around it’s not a lot of fun. Gets kinda dangerous. He’s good with the domesticated ones here. But not the feral ones and neither am I. For the most part they want to be hidden and left alone but they are very aggressive and would eat you alive. They don’t really care. My question was how do you prepare them to keep them brave and yet also controllable when say 40 of them come out of nowhere. It’s a real thing here in south Texas. So the horse doesn’t lose its mind and how to get them back into focus. See that’s the problem. How to present a truly bad situation for the horse and keep them mentally together without too much stress and trouble. And he’s been exposed to it all and everything else in the world here for five years. Still scared of the feral hog’s. And he’s a pretty calm and brave guy these days just not so much in a situation near or around the feral hog’s.
@@kevinbailey1097 Grew up on a ranch in the TX hill country, so I understand. Ran into my share of javelinas. We preferred the mountain lions to the javelinas. 😉Feral hogs weren't much of a thing in our area when I was there.
Still, my dad made me practice getting my horse to go from a trot or gallup into circles to get her mind back on me and to slowly get her slowed down. Not a one reign stop, just going back to the circles we practiced at home, getting smaller as I could slow her down but maintaining forward motion so we could take off if the situation required it.
I practice that with my horse every time before going out to ride out in any of the pastures by myself. If I was writing and suddenly her ears were pointed forward and I could feel her tensing up we immediately went into circles. If I could see what was scaring her and it wasn't a big deal, I'd make her back up several steps, stand and breathe or go back to circles until she relaxed.
Only had one encounter with a mountain lion in the circles worked then. With 40 feral hogs, I might have wanted her to run. 😆
Good luck. I hope you find something that works for you and your horse.
@@claudias4601 yeah we can get into circles. And I always do my pre ride checks before heading out. If we come across a large group of them I let him go where he wants to go. Which is the opposite direction. And take the ride. He’ll peter out in a quarter mile or so. Because he’s a ranch horse and he’s got to deal with things he may not be ok with was why I thought I’d ask Pat how he’d handle it. He’s a pretty calm and brave guy and very smart horse. Just gets really worried when he gets close to the hog’s. Just trying to figure out how to get him passed the worry and understand as long as I’m with him he’s ok.
Wish you were my neighbor!
That's funny I live in vernal utah and have a wild horse in the same boat lol 😂
thanks good ppl.. those look like Brets boots
Hello. I used to know a horse very similar to him. A day, hé runned into my back , kicked my arm and broke it. He just hated humans. Sorry for my english, Îm French. Anyway this horse had told me before these attack « don’t approch, Îm the chief. » He runned and charged me exactly as a bull . But this day I didn’t moved and frightened him shouting. I should have learn the lesson !
Pat, what's the purpose of hanging a horse? I've used it before, but I want to make sure I understand it. I've got a 5 year old monster of a paint who I still can't get on. Every time I throw a blanket or saddle on him, his head goes straight up. He never relaxes. I've saddled and unsaddled him a thousand times and he still does it, even after untracking him and doing ground work with him. I could use advice about that, too.
Patience.
He said why- he can choose to stand and relax or only walk a small circle where he has to cross hind footfall over the other hind foot, (which disengages the motor, engages the left brain- my explanation).
Hi Pat, you mention that you don’t talk to your horses, why?
probably because it's mostly just blablabla to horses. He talks body language to them instead.
Personally I did talk to my horse, but realizing he may at best get the tone of it, maybe calm him down. Most people who talk to horses really overdo it. While riding, my only verbals are tong smacking to go faster and whoah to slow down. My horse knew the sound of my boots on the pavement tho, that was cool, he started to whinny when he heard my steps outside the barn (not for other people walking by).
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The long haul😅😅😅😅😅😅
Morehouse clinics😅😅😅😊
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I have sound. Maybe you have a slow internet connection in which case you can go back to the start of the video and the sound will have caught up.
Pat are are you seems like your short of breath
Ugh.
Thank you
Thanks!