Had my 22 with 6MT for about 10 weeks. I calculate my MPG at the pump every time so far. I have been pretty consistently getting about 27mpg. I drive the car hard often, but I do a lot of rural highway driving as well.
It's crazy to me how low the EPA MPG numbers for this car are. A civic type R, golf R, Supra, Veloster N, etc... are all way more powerful with better fuel economy. Some even AWD too.
Modern turbocharged cars are pretty much designed to game EPA tests...you're not getting those numbers unless you're driving exclusively on tbe highway like a grandma. Once you start getting into boost or driving in the city, those numbers fall pretty quick.
@@KTH96 MK7 GTI here, can confirm. "Normal" driving I get around 22-24mpg, but when I'm on a road trip with all highway miles and rarely hitting boost I've achieved 39mpg. Big difference.
13.2 gallon tank, same as my 2006 Civic Ex coupe. Also went from 2.0 to 2.4 like the Civic Si did. To me, this car is a basically a rear wheel drive Civic Si which is awesome in my book. I'm looking to trade up. Thanks for the vid and enjoy your BRZ :)
@@mikea5205 CTR can drive, don’t get me wrong. But the car felt numb on road and track even with tires, suspension, and stiffer mounts. CTR has more power and weight. But the way this car goes around a corner really does feel like the caymans that I’ve driven.
It is for people that are not going to mod it but im sure over 50% of the people buying this car are already going to do the whole exhaust/intake/tune job. Shoot im sure tons of people are even going to turbo it so it is similar to the ascent engine. Those things handle boost and power well for a 2.4L
I had a 2015 frs. I remember getting 30-32mpg frequently when I would drive at 60mph or below in L.A. Once I moved to a higher elevation, it dropped to 28mpg. Slow, but fun little car. I miss it, but my back and hips don't 🤣.
I drive 270 miles on the highway pretty often and I end the trip with roughly 50 miles left according to the car. I keep cruise control at 82 mph and AC at a minimum.
That makes way more sense. There's no way a 2800 pound car with aero like that and a 4cyl engine is only getting 30mpg, especially since its only got 30 more hp than last gen. I bet in mild temps it gets 35 easily.
@@TheXboxSux I daily drive a 21 Silverado HD gasser. Thanks to direct injection, the truck doesn't require premium. But at 3.69 per gallon on regular it's still $110 in fuel every 4 days. I'm no math surgeon, but I must say compared to what i'm driving now? I'd happily take a FWD/AWD sports car instead. When your expectations are lowered, you will be happy with sports car mpg! 🤣
I'm glad you did this, but instantly got worried when you mentioned you're on summer tires. They can crack at cold temperatures. But surprised and satisfied with the results. I'm glad you actually recorded the miles and divided by how many gallons you put in. Most people just go by the trip computer.
Just bought one of these and currently at the dealer getting checked out because the "eyesight disabled" keeps popping up, have any experience with this throughout driving so far? seems to work for a few minutes when I drive but never works correctly. Thanks!
is it called "EyeSight" on the Toyota variant? Toyota's own documentation refers to it as "Safety Sense" even though it's really not TSS, but I wonder what the actual menus in the vehicle would say
Wow! The BRZ/GR86 with 6spd might be the perfect sporty coupe. If you don't need the added seating/practicality, or want a convertible, why would you ever consider any other Sport Compact car. 34mpg and a 440 mile range is just icing on the cake. As usual, great review Charlie.
I almost bought one of these... until I found out I can now buy a manual C6 Corvette for under 20k... AAND it gets 32 ish mpg stock highway and close to 40 with eco tune. with 430hp and 300 ft of torque at 1300 RPM and don't have to deal with that aweful boxer subaru engine
Don't buy a corvette unless you want terrible handling that feels like your grandpa's buick. I had a C5 manual. The C6 and C7 are all the same car underneath. It's not nimble, it rolls like a boat, unless you get the z06. I had to upgrade the suspension to z06 parts to make it "feel" sporty. Oh, don't forget, the computer is programmed to make you shift from 1st to 4th to save gas. You are locked out of 2nd and 3rd unless you floor it. You have to get a $15 aftermarket part to disable the computer which everyone with a brain does. Eventually got rid of it for a mini cooper s.
@@espinozanovak831 I just put on Coilovers and got rid of leaf springs and it handles great, it's a double wishbone suspension after all. The Skip shift never turns on for me when I drive it
Surely the appeal of a Brz is more than just the gearbox itself. Yes agree that the manual may be the enthusiasts preferred choice but what do you do if you like everything else about the car. Will be used as a daily driver not a track car but still want an auto of sorts. Should we rather buy a SUV/generic looking warm hatch/gadgety GTI Mk8 or a small German money pit? Not all that appealing.
I think the car looks good and I love the community and tuners that are into it. If I get one, I'm getting Auto, This would be a daily and I have no intentions of learning manual any time soon. I like cars but what I don't like about the car community as a whole is the Manual vs Auto debate and gatekeeping. If I showed up at an 86 car meet with an automatic will I get shunned? .. maybe, and I don't like that. It makes me not want to show up or talk about cars at all. I hate seeing these comments every time an Automatic 86 is in a video. It is what it is I guess.
@Al Smith I recently broke my ankle and currently can't even drive my manual Mazda 6. I have definitely been rethinking that whole argument alot. Before I knew it was broken, I drove my car, and the clutch pedal never felt heavier or more excruciatingly painful. So there's that. 🤷♂️
It does, but the subaru turn stalk is funky because it doesn't stay in any position it always returns to center which takes getting used to. If you lightly tap it, it will signal 3 times only.
Funny, you had the slowest color and were hampered by the least favorite (and heavier) transmission. Putting in 93 at every fill-up in my GTI and WRX, Premium gas is just a way of life for me. Sure, it might be ~$400/year more than 87, but I'd rather keep the car happy and avoid issues that arise from improper octane...
@@ACommenterOnRUclips 19 city is what I would expect from muscle cars. Mustang, Camaro, Challenger - their base cars get 19 while 800lb heavier. If you look at its competitors, Miata and Supra 2.0, they get 26 and 25. So what's up with this boxer engine?
@@seb5945 Its a BMW 2L ... not a Toyota. 2nd its NOT 41 mpg ... Mileage estimates (MPG city/highway/combined) * 25/32/28 for the 2L bmw engine. The ONLY toyota to get 41+ mpg is the corolla ...
Been waiting for this one. I knew the epa numbers were wonky!
How was your old brz irl driving
@@stevenyerry2209 About 28 average, on hwy trips as high as 33-34mpg
@@TheTopher but you had a manual frs. This was 34 mpg with the auto on the new 2.4. Someone should make a mpg test video with a manual 2.4 😬
Dude.. every RUclipsrs camera I’ve seen so far is struggling with the black interior of the brz/gr86.. but yours is crystal clear. Nice
Had my 22 with 6MT for about 10 weeks. I calculate my MPG at the pump every time so far. I have been pretty consistently getting about 27mpg. I drive the car hard often, but I do a lot of rural highway driving as well.
So it would be the same as my corolla perfect it’s pretty good for a sports car
Just did a 100mile highway run and computer showed 36.5mpg at the end. Pretty impressive. So far I’ve been getting 24mpg in the city
sounds about right for a 2.4 4 cylinder. similar to a k24
Dope music during the time lap
More 22+ BRZ content! Going to be a massively popular platform
It's crazy to me how low the EPA MPG numbers for this car are. A civic type R, golf R, Supra, Veloster N, etc... are all way more powerful with better fuel economy. Some even AWD too.
Modern turbocharged cars are pretty much designed to game EPA tests...you're not getting those numbers unless you're driving exclusively on tbe highway like a grandma.
Once you start getting into boost or driving in the city, those numbers fall pretty quick.
@@KTH96 I don't have a lead foot, but I can drive in the city and never even touch boost.
@@KTH96 MK7 GTI here, can confirm. "Normal" driving I get around 22-24mpg, but when I'm on a road trip with all highway miles and rarely hitting boost I've achieved 39mpg. Big difference.
Yeah, in my type R I would get around 23mpg normally. Driving at 70mph long distance I’d manage 30mpg.
13.2 gallon tank, same as my 2006 Civic Ex coupe. Also went from 2.0 to 2.4 like the Civic Si did. To me, this car is a basically a rear wheel drive Civic Si which is awesome in my book. I'm looking to trade up. Thanks for the vid and enjoy your BRZ :)
Only difference is the SI doesnt handle like a porsche
Yeah, this car handles way better and I’m coming from a CTR.
@@NahBra_EUC - wow no shit better than a Type R?
@@mikea5205 CTR can drive, don’t get me wrong. But the car felt numb on road and track even with tires, suspension, and stiffer mounts. CTR has more power and weight. But the way this car goes around a corner really does feel like the caymans that I’ve driven.
@@NahBra_EUC is the cayman worth double the price compared to the BRZ/86
MPG IS IMPORTANT
I'm actually really impressed with your results! That premium fuel requirement though STINKS.
It is for people that are not going to mod it but im sure over 50% of the people buying this car are already going to do the whole exhaust/intake/tune job. Shoot im sure tons of people are even going to turbo it so it is similar to the ascent engine. Those things handle boost and power well for a 2.4L
I had a 2015 frs. I remember getting 30-32mpg frequently when I would drive at 60mph or below in L.A. Once I moved to a higher elevation, it dropped to 28mpg. Slow, but fun little car. I miss it, but my back and hips don't 🤣.
You should do another video with city driving too!
would love to see one with the manual transmission - the gearing is way shorter, at 72 mph i'm at like 3100 rpm.
Agree! Do the manual.
I’m only averaging about 24 mpg if driving around 75-80 and about 27 if 70-75.
@@NahBra_EUC I haven't done a highway only test, I'm getting around 21-23 combined, about 60% city (dash display says 24 avg)
@@alexandram9477 That's awful. I get 18-19 in mostly city driving in a 4000 lb turbo V6 sedan.
@@aluisious …and what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
thank you for doing this test!
I drive 270 miles on the highway pretty often and I end the trip with roughly 50 miles left according to the car. I keep cruise control at 82 mph and AC at a minimum.
In the 2022 BRZ? If so Manual or AT?
If you go down to 70-75 you will get a lot better gas mileage
Thanks Charlie for the review…happy holidays
Hoping in a couple years to get a BRZ / GR86 as a 3 season car….manual
Gr86 forsure!
I drive a mix in the city and highway, it’s about 23.5mpg. Not too bad for a NA engine
What? That's not good at all. Be more gentle and you'll get like 28 city and 32 highway
That makes way more sense. There's no way a 2800 pound car with aero like that and a 4cyl engine is only getting 30mpg, especially since its only got 30 more hp than last gen. I bet in mild temps it gets 35 easily.
Can anyone tell me how much it would cost to fill up the tank from empty? I’m interested in purchasing this car and was wondering numbers
13.2 * $5.19 per gallon (in my area) would be $68.5. At the prices things are going to idk why anyone would want a sports car.
@@TheXboxSux WHY did you answer ????
@@TheXboxSux I daily drive a 21 Silverado HD gasser. Thanks to direct injection, the truck doesn't require premium. But at 3.69 per gallon on regular it's still $110 in fuel every 4 days. I'm no math surgeon, but I must say compared to what i'm driving now? I'd happily take a FWD/AWD sports car instead. When your expectations are lowered, you will be happy with sports car mpg! 🤣
I'm glad you did this, but instantly got worried when you mentioned you're on summer tires. They can crack at cold temperatures. But surprised and satisfied with the results. I'm glad you actually recorded the miles and divided by how many gallons you put in. Most people just go by the trip computer.
Its pretty expensive for the lack of quality materials and features. Like a integra a spec is hardly more money.
Charlie, As far as I am concerned, even the Subaru BRZ Wilderness should have a manual.
...BRZ Wilderness? I would suspect all of the body panels would be plastic cladding, all panels, not just the fender wells...
My 9th gen si. Gets the same but i was doing average speed 85mph
Just bought one of these and currently at the dealer getting checked out because the "eyesight disabled" keeps popping up, have any experience with this throughout driving so far? seems to work for a few minutes when I drive but never works correctly. Thanks!
is it called "EyeSight" on the Toyota variant? Toyota's own documentation refers to it as "Safety Sense" even though it's really not TSS, but I wonder what the actual menus in the vehicle would say
what was the old one's mpg ?
Does the car have a readout in the gauges for mpg average? I’m curious what the car would say.
You can see it in the video. Shows 34.
Can one use 91 octane for this car?
Good idea
There is a mistake on the Subaru website. The premium only gets a 6 speaker audio system. Only the limited has 8.
Very helpful comment. How did you figure this out?
interesting that i get better gas mileage in winter than summer in all my cars
what happens if you put 87 regular
BOOM
You probably get 40 mpg if you drive 60mph.
Bro maybe who knows
this is very good for a Subaru engine.
What about Manuel?
Wow! The BRZ/GR86 with 6spd might be the perfect sporty coupe. If you don't need the added seating/practicality, or want a convertible, why would you ever consider any other Sport Compact car. 34mpg and a 440 mile range is just icing on the cake. As usual, great review Charlie.
$4.50 premium. I miss it...
I miss Trump too, orange man good.
@@TheG60528XiJinPingsame
I doubt almost anyone that buys a BRZ or An 86 are worried about fuel economy. These car are going to be modded out
I almost bought one of these... until I found out I can now buy a manual C6 Corvette for under 20k... AAND it gets 32 ish mpg stock highway and close to 40 with eco tune. with 430hp and 300 ft of torque at 1300 RPM and don't have to deal with that aweful boxer subaru engine
Don't buy a corvette unless you want terrible handling that feels like your grandpa's buick. I had a C5 manual. The C6 and C7 are all the same car underneath. It's not nimble, it rolls like a boat, unless you get the z06. I had to upgrade the suspension to z06 parts to make it "feel" sporty. Oh, don't forget, the computer is programmed to make you shift from 1st to 4th to save gas. You are locked out of 2nd and 3rd unless you floor it. You have to get a $15 aftermarket part to disable the computer which everyone with a brain does. Eventually got rid of it for a mini cooper s.
@@espinozanovak831 I just put on Coilovers and got rid of leaf springs and it handles great, it's a double wishbone suspension after all. The Skip shift never turns on for me when I drive it
Just for reference, my '14 BRZ manual gets 41 mpg at a steady 60 mph. That's actual, checked many times over 110K miles.
Why would anyone buy an automatic BRZ or 86!? Its not like its a DCT so absolutely no appeal in my opinion....
Surely the appeal of a Brz is more than just the gearbox itself. Yes agree that the manual may be the enthusiasts preferred choice but what do you do if you like everything else about the car. Will be used as a daily driver not a track car but still want an auto of sorts. Should we rather buy a SUV/generic looking warm hatch/gadgety GTI Mk8 or a small German money pit? Not all that appealing.
I think the car looks good and I love the community and tuners that are into it. If I get one, I'm getting Auto, This would be a daily and I have no intentions of learning manual any time soon. I like cars but what I don't like about the car community as a whole is the Manual vs Auto debate and gatekeeping. If I showed up at an 86 car meet with an automatic will I get shunned? .. maybe, and I don't like that. It makes me not want to show up or talk about cars at all. I hate seeing these comments every time an Automatic 86 is in a video. It is what it is I guess.
@Al Smith
I recently broke my ankle and currently can't even drive my manual Mazda 6. I have definitely been rethinking that whole argument alot. Before I knew it was broken, I drove my car, and the clutch pedal never felt heavier or more excruciatingly painful. So there's that. 🤷♂️
Interesting that it doesn't have the 3 automatic clicks when you tap the indicator stock.
It does, but the subaru turn stalk is funky because it doesn't stay in any position it always returns to center which takes getting used to. If you lightly tap it, it will signal 3 times only.
There is NO way you get better gas mileage in warmer climates because you got the AC running which wastes more gas.
4.50$ is quite cheap.. here regular costs 6.50$
@@zacharyreynolds4303 must be cali
Oof
Why would anyone buy a 200hp car to pay $1 a gallon more.
Giving it the exact same economy figures of the wife's Mini Cooper it replaces, perfect!
Funny, you had the slowest color and were hampered by the least favorite (and heavier) transmission. Putting in 93 at every fill-up in my GTI and WRX, Premium gas is just a way of life for me. Sure, it might be ~$400/year more than 87, but I'd rather keep the car happy and avoid issues that arise from improper octane...
slowest color? Is white the heaviest color?
@@jansonb482 it was all kinds of talkin
Why this little 4-cylinder car drinks fuel like a muscle car?
for one, define muscle car and what muscle car gets 34 mpg hwy ??
@@ACommenterOnRUclips 19 city is what I would expect from muscle cars. Mustang, Camaro, Challenger - their base cars get 19 while 800lb heavier. If you look at its competitors, Miata and Supra 2.0, they get 26 and 25. So what's up with this boxer engine?
@@seb5945 BMW, not Supra ... Get it right.
So whats wrong with 34 mpg hwy on this car ??
@@ACommenterOnRUclips Nothing's wrong with 34 mpg until you find out Supra 2.0 gets 41 mpg.🤣
@@seb5945 Its a BMW 2L ... not a Toyota.
2nd its NOT 41 mpg ...
Mileage estimates (MPG city/highway/combined) *
25/32/28 for the 2L bmw engine.
The ONLY toyota to get 41+ mpg is the corolla ...
This
Automatic 🤭🙄
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