Infant Mysteriously Disappears from Crib as Intoxicated Mother Passed Out | Lisa Irwin Case Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2023
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The fact that 2 people saw a man carrying a baby with no clothes in the middle of the night and didn't call the police it's mind-boggling to me.
@Mandy Warski it's was freaking 45 degrees. That would concern ANY normal, caring, human being with a mind that actually works. Smh
They should have called just better safe than sorry.
what's mind boggling to me is that the only thing that it is mind boggling to you is that and not the fact that the fat lazy drug addict mother was passed out drunk and probably caused all this, probably leaving a window or door open amongst many other things.
They thought he was carrying his wife home.. to the white male a man with a nude baby is a God to be envied! Men are all pedophiles, the older they get the more intense the desire for children and the younger they get.
@Mandy Warski what are you a pedophiles helper? Hopefully when someone is assaulting you there are no Karen's to stop it!
I would imagine the husband and wife who saw the man walking down the middle of the street after midnight, carrying a child wearing only a diaper on a very cool evening considered calling the police, but talked themselves out of it, as people will.
Probably afraid they'd be blamed somehow! It's sad, but honestly, you should never ever speak to the police without an attorney..
@@kristenjustkristen9462 well that doesn't preclude tipping them off
I live in KC fairly close to that area. We're in the hood over here. In the hood, if you're smart, you mind your own damn business. At least, that's the mentality of most folks around here. Unless you witness something truly heinous first-hand, then live and let live. People don't take too kindly to snitches in our neck of the woods.
@@AxelordSMIJES wow
Oh yeah... I was also wondering!!
It amazes me that no one (neither mother, brothers or visitors) thought to check on baby after she went to bed at 6:40 pm. Doesn’t a baby need to eat or have diaper changed?
6:40pm. Babies of that age usually no longer need fed overnight and they don’t need changed until morning. But still should be looked in on. These days most people have cameras above the crib.
@@EquippedwithStrength thanks, edited it to pm. I’ve never had children but I feed my kittens at least every 4 hours so assumed children needed food every 4-6 hours too. I think I assumed that because parents say their babies, even older babies, lead to sleepless nights. There was another neglect story in Kearney where a woman fell asleep at midnight and didn’t wake up to check on babies until noon (times may be a little off, I’m going from memory) and they had passed from heat because they were in a car on the 4th of July. I always wondered why the baby didn’t need food or fluids.
They were drinking. They were impaired. They didn't care at that point.
Depending on the baby they can end up sleeping for 6 to 10 hours solid. She didn't look like a newborn in the pictures, she's probably at least 6 months old. Now if Mom wasn't quite so drunk she probably would have peaked in on her just to make sure she was still settled. But when Mom first got there to go to sleep baby would have still been in the crib anyway. 🤷. I haven't finished a whole video but it seems from the timeline that the baby was taken while the mom was already asleep at home. (To the other poster about parents complaining about babies not sleeping through the night, that's them being fussy. My daughter had really bad belly pain from month one through six and would constantly cry). Some babies are just fussier than others too, they have their own sleep patterns. Some might sleep long stretches others might wake up every 2 hours.
@@robinw2613 human babies aren't kittens. Don't opine on things about which you have zero knowledge.
5-10 glasses of wine!? I’m pretty buzzed after just two.
I know😮
I chased a man out of my kitchen right after my daughter was born. I feel like we all need to pay more attention to these stories and get better security. I myself prefer large dogs and lock up tight. It was a terrifying experience and I'm just thankful I woke up in time to stop him before he did whatever he broke in to do.
This sounds really scary!!! Maybe your mother instinct woke you up, I know from experience how you sometimes just feel that something is wrong. Happily you could protect your home without the intruder hurting you or your family!
2A is the best defense
This is so sad. I agree with Dr. Grande that a man took advantage of the opportunity to get into the house and take the child. Perhaps he took her to his partner who wanted a child but couldn't have one. I pray Lisa is still alive somewhere today.
This is sickening on so many levels
So true
The wine in a box was the first indication things were going to go bad.
Same thing happened to me. I stopped buying boxed wine.
@@wheatstonebridge maybe it was the baby food.
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Seems bizarre that Police ruled that guy with the methed-up mugshot out - unless, as you say, they learned something definitive - but very hard to imagine that one of the stolen cell phones called someone he knew intimately (who the family did not know) right at the relevant times…and one of the witnesses identified him ….Very, very odd that they crossed him off the list
Agreed!!
I agree!
Without saying it, I think dr Grande agrees aswell, given that showed his picture.
What about the cell phone calling the guys girlfriend? How can he possibly be ruled not a suspect?
@@mattg4836 exactly, and Dr. Grande also said that the woman Jersey called was his girlfriend, and she wanted a baby!
I really hope little baby Lisa is out there somewhere and just doesn't know who she is 🙏
I was involved in several searches for Lisa. I lived about 8 miles from them. I believe Debbie was involved. Those of us that searched had numerous problems. Jobs were called , harassed on social media & threatened. We searched behind their house & she stood in backyard & watched. She never took part in any search. Very sad 😞. She also gave Lisa medications that night & she took Xanax. Some of us thought she may have put Lisa in bed with her & she was suffocated-dog hit in bedroom. Thanks for covering this !
I always had a strong feeling she was involved or behind it too.
Where was the medication part mentioned ?
@@Lemonteaxi I didn’t hear Dr. Grande say anything about her giving Lisa medications but if she was involved in searches and followed the story, she may have heard about the medications and Deborah taking Xanax. I think I also heard Deborah was taking drugs that night too but it’s been so long ago that I don’t remember which drug or drugs.
That happened where I live - baby's mom came home drunk, put the baby in mom's bed, got in with her & smothered the baby while she was passed out. This was discovered the next morning & mom did not try to hide it. I'm not sure what kind of charges mom faced. She no longer lives in this area.
Many questions. Why would an intruder take the time to undress baby Lisa (if indeed that person walking had her)? Just by chance someone saw her drinking on the porch and waited to snatch the baby not knowing when Jeremy would be home? Or like you said, was it an accident and Lisa was disposed of in the close by river? Due to the temp of the water, the body might have never really surfaced. I am so sorry that searchers were harassed...that also makes you question just why?
A friend of mine lived across the street from the parents at the time, she said the mom and dad treated the kids very well and both parents were really sweet people. It kind of surprised me because my friend tends to be very judging but she really liked them.
Oh wow, did she talk to the neighbor who said they saw a man carrying a baby in a diaper that night?
This tho I know someone who knows them an is good friends with them to this day. An honestly these people are also extra judgemental an don't think they'd still be friends with them to this day if the family had something to do with it
@@babyphatpenutI came here after listening to this case on Ten to Life. I don't believe these parents were involved at all. I've had to bury two of my children and a guilty person doesn't act the way this poor mother acts when talking about their child
@@realcanadiangirl64 thank you
This post and the replies all seem suspiciously fake. The comment above this one is from a search party member saying that as a searcher, she or other members were harassed and threatened. These fake comments here would fit that same pattern of trying to control the narrative and interpretations.
Abusers overcompensate by showing themselves to others and in public to be extra nice. Then they get behind close doors and things change.
And, you can add Summer Wells to the list of little girls missing from their parent(s) care.
Yes! That one haunts me?
@@bthomson does it?
@@danisouris3429 what kind of stupid comment is this? Are you the killer? Cz it sure sounds like something only a twisted, sadistic person would say.
Is boxed wine and cat food acceptable? asking for a friend
😂😂😂😂😂
Yes. That's pretty much my shopping list as a single woman over 40!
Lol 🍷🐾🐈⬛🐾
Great reply😅
I’ve passed/blacked out and lost cars. Never lost a baby….. yet….
Predators know how to pick their victims, and alcoholics and drug users are much easier targets. Someone wanted her baby and knew she'd be passed out.
True.
Maybe someone she knew. Husband wasn't on his normal shift, so he's usually there. So he was either in the area watching, as suggested, because predators do "prey" on their victims OR he knew her drinking habits. Like the comment though. Straight to the point!
Yes!! Very true.
Hmmm. unlikely. Why would anyone want to steal an addict baby?
I don’t know why people don’t see child rearing as job. So many people are just not attentive enough with their children. I know it’s hard and people have multiple responsibilities…but the primary one should be to the child in your care. Thanks Dr. Grande.
But people do see it as a job, that's why they say they are a stay at home mam when asked about career. But everybody has to sleep at some point, everybody needs time off. Technically if your child is safe, like sleeping in their bed, you should be able to do something relaxing. How about you work for the next 18 years without taking a break. 🤨 Parents are aloud to have hobbies, friends, time to relax. You usually don't have to sit there and stare at a baby 24/7. Generally speaking going over to your neighbor's house while the baby is asleep is a safe enough activity. It's common enough for you to grab the baby monitor and you can tell if they wake up. From what I can tell in the timeline the baby was even taken while Mom was asleep in bed. What more can you do? Should she have stayed up 24/7 to make sure no random strangers broke into her house to take her baby??
@Jessica Olson she was drunk! That's the issue! You never get drunk or even buzzed. If you're the only adult with your children, a number of things can happen that requires you to be sober. Nobody is saying parents can't relax, but you have to do so with your children's safety as the priority. I've raised two children, being the only parent for literally years at a time, my Husband was in the Army deployed for 12-15 months at a time, 6 deployments, and away from family. I get it, but you don't get to cut loose like that when you have kids you chose to have 🤷♀️.
Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating how to convey for the last time that the lamp on the left is in fact a lamp and not some sort of electrified cacti.
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@@patmuscarella8279 hey thanks for the emote!
I'm surprised that Deborah Bradley wasn't charged with child neglect for having gotten so drunk when she had three children in her care.
That’s how it goes
Just like the McCanns...
@Manuela Darazsdi exactly right!..they're arguably much WORSE!🙄going out in a strange place, leaving doors open, drinks and dinner!🙄unbelievable they're not doing time!
Maybe, but that's opening a huge door for prosecution of millions of people. There is no way to directly correlate it to the kidnapping. Did the other children wake up? My guess is no. There is no way to say she wouldn't have slept through the whole thing anyway. My dad used to sleep like the dead.
There would be a lot
Of People in jail if they did that. That’s ridiculous
I live in the Kansas City area and we still get chills about this case
I was 17 when I had my first child and I knew better than to do stupid things like this, especially when they are so little. Just because they are sleeping doesnt give you a pass on getting drunk. And to not check on her for all those hours?! Despicable. I can only hope little baby Lisa is out there somewhere doing ok
there are two dumpster fires in with this story, first the dumpster fire a few blocks from the house, the second is the dumpster fire of a parenting choices Debra made...
My heart broke in 2011 when this story broke. Beautiful, innocent baby Lisa Irwin has been on my mind since.
Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande, and I find I agree with you. Thank you for covering this case.
WHATUP DOC G My best friend died this week 40 years we were friends. He just didn’t wake up. It’s really hard. 😢✌🏼
God bless
So sorry for your loss.
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I'm so sorry.
I’m so sorry
We need a playlist of every video where Dr Grande disses New Jersey.
I personally find it rude. Obviously I would as a native Jersey girl myself, but there are absolutely terrible people everywhere. New Jersey just gets a bad reputation because of it's representation in pop culture, I've personally never met anyone who acted in the ways the people from those shows act (other than the foul language, but that's not unique to Jersey!).
Reminds me f Jaclyn Dowaliby who was 7 when taken by an unknown perpetrator. Of course the police railroaded them and put her father in in jail for a year and a half. What happened to this young couple because of the police was a living nightmare.
The parents were railroaded because someone (I think it was the DA). was running for re-election so he wanted the case solved asap and knew people were afraid that the perpetrator was still out there.
After his innocence was proved, of course the police refused to admit their mistake.
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@@74betty he does!
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I remember this case. Perhaps someone wanted a baby and targeted this couple because of the lifestyle. Maybe one day we will know what happened to that precious child.
My (very blonde haired blue eyed) daughter is the same age as Lisa, and they look very similar. I remember getting looks when she and I were out at this time. Heartbreaking.
Did you just take time to comment that people thought you stole the baby?
@@mopnem idk i thought it was a fun comment.
@@mopnem I don't think they thought I stole the baby, but a few people did comment on how similar she looked, and we couldn't imagine how awful the family must be feeling, etc...
A trial is going on for Leticia Stauch for murdering her step son Gannon. She plead not guilty by reason of insanity. Could you cover her and this case? 💖
He's already done it
Dr. Grande will likely update the case after her trial & verdict.
I can’t find it if he has done it someone link it please 🙏🏼
He has done it. It’s the most recent video on his channel
@@plainjayna the updated version, I mean
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@@lowrider81hd The only detractors I've come across are a couple young female psych students and counsellors who seem to think they know everything. I think one of them criticized him for mansplaining.
If Dr. Grande has detractors, it means he’s making quite a splash-triggering the ugly insecurities of lesser analysts. 😁
I am so glad to see you cover this case! Heartbreaking! My daughter was a toddler when this happened and we had both just become ready for her to sleep in her bedroom….. needless to say after this we put that off for a few years…. 💔
Another possible theory might be that the financial burdens of another child were too great and the mother somehow came into contact with the "Jersey" guy and made a bargain for him to take the child, since his girlfriend was pressuring him to have a child. Knowing what was happening, she got drunk and passed out and passed out with the door open. The broken window was just planting false evidence. But Jersey's girlfriend rejected it, wanting a baby of her own. So "Jersey" "disposed" of the child.
This is nightmare fuel.
Thank you Dr Grande for remembering Baby Lisa! My heart still breaks for Baby Lisa, I still regularly pray for her and answers. My money's on Deborah's brother, no one has ever accounted for his actions.
If I drank heavily when I was supposed to be caring for my children I’d probably lie about it too. Any kind of lying to law enforcement doesn’t look good but it is a plausible explanation. There’s not much evidence to connect her to her daughter’s disappearance
Well you already stated in your comment that she was a heavy drinker who was prepared to lie to police. So straight off the bat there’s a couple of red flags. In these kind of cases it’s statistically more likely to be the parents or someone connected to the baby than a random stranger. I mean it would be quite a coincidence for a stranger to be lucky enough to randomly go in to someone’s house on the rare occasion the father is working late and the mother is intoxicated and grab a baby and 3 cell phones. Take the baby without anyone noticing… including the other children who were in the house at the time, and get away with this spontaneous kidnapping. It doesn’t ring true to me. For me personally it’s faaaaar more likely the parents were somehow involved in cover up the poor baby’s death.
Right. Also she passed the polygraph but the detectives lied to her and told her she failed. That was when she stopped cooperating with them.
Also, the dogs detecting "human remains" could literally be detecting decomposing fecal matter (from a diaper change for example) or even dead skin (from callous removal for example), it does not prove a dead body and no blood or other evidence was ever found, and there wouldn't have been enough time for the body to decompose before police were called anyway.
These is zero evidence tying the mother to the disappearance of her daughter.
As someone who used to be a favor delivery driver in a nice suburban in Houston I can tell you boxes wine and baby food is common and acceptable lol
I think this case is much simpler. The most likely conclusion in my mind is that the mother fell asleep in bed with her baby and rolled on top of her because she was drunk. The father came home to find his intoxicated wife still asleep and the accidentally smothered baby. In his own words, he woke his wife up in a panic. The father took baby Lisa's dead body and disposed of her in the nearby woods. HE was the suspicious man witnesses saw carrying a naked baby in a diaper. Do we know whether any of the witnesses heard the baby cry or saw any signs of life at all? Because... you don't need to put clothes on a corpse in winter. After he burried her, he could have thrown the 3 missing phones in the nearby dumpster that caught on fire to make it look like burglary, perhaps. While he was busy doing that, his wife opened the screen window to stage a home intrusion.
While covering up the accental death of a child would be despicable, I think that's exactly what this was: a tragic accident due to poor choices. It seems likely to me that the baby was NOT in her own crib in the nursery like the parents claimed, but fell asleep in her mother's arms. This is why many people get so fired up about people co-sleeping - made even riskier accompanied by alcohol intoxication!
Babies die from not co-sleeping due to inability to regulate body temp. What any mother does drinking and doing pills is beyond me. Even without babies. Kids try to run outside all the time, and know how to unlock doors.
If you leave your baby alone in a crib you are begging for SIDS and kidnappers.
I think the conversation between John and Megan that night of the kidnapping would be very important to know about. Did John kidnap baby Lisa to give to Megan because she wanted a baby? Did she say no to being given a kidnapped baby then maybe John realized he couldnt give back a kidnapped child so he killed her?
Or perhaps he sold her after she freaked out
You have become my no 1 fav you tube commentary. I love the humor in your intellectual synopsis . Your so dead on and the humor is expected but just not from your serious demeanor. Cracks me up! I also love how you accentuate certain details that support your humor. Genius
you think kid disappearing is funny?
This is so sad. It would be nice if she was found one day, but time will tell if that will happen. Thanks for covering this Dr. Grande, keep up the great work and take care!
Did they even search those woods thoroughly where at least one eye-witness said the same man they'd seen earlier walking with a baby, and then saw him again, later, walking out of those woods, WITHOUT the baby?? 😢
The baby's obviously dead in the woods and her belongings burnt.
@@donnae9566 umm, no. It's NOT obvious. That baby could have been stolen and sold. Happens every day.
Such an adorable precious baby Lisa. Dr.Grande mentioned the intruder attempted to get in thru the window but couldn't so went thru the front door. i thought he said earlier that the dust on the window hadn't been touched??
Beyond sad and devastating. If she's dead she's in Heaven. I'd rather know that then be wondering where she is.
And weren't the two moms sitting on the front porch?
Picture it: the window screen was supposedly a bit displaced from the outside, but nobody climbed in to disturb the dust on the sill inside. So Dr. Grande theorizes the abductor had given up and checked the front door…sadly, hitting the jackpot.
I totally agree with your analysis. I feel like this is another case where the media was finding them guilty and public opinion soon followed. Unfortunately that happens way too often. Plenty of innocent people have to " lawyer up " when they feel the media and police are turning against them.
Too many holes in this plot. Tell the Rothschilds to hire a better screenwriter.
Anytime a story involves someone nicknamed Jersey, there’s bound to be trouble
I've followed this case since it happened because I live nearby. It's a tragedy, and I wonder if it will ever be solved.
Please do Charles Lindberg... a complex, weird, and mean person. You could get a New Jersey dig in since he lived there.
Not to mention a fascist.
As in the Charles Lindberg pilot?
@@nanaman Yes, the American “hero.”
-A proponent of eugenics….
-A deceased baby son who had some physical defects
-Just saying….. 🫣
I really enjoy your work. Thank you.
They had enough money for alcohol it seems
Addicted people will always find money for their addictions.
Every single time I’m around children, I am also driven to get so drunk I pass out. I’m not saying they aren’t guilty, I’m saying I truly think there’s nothing wrong with picking up boxed wine with baby food (one stop shop at Walmart)
Edit: don’t worry, I don’t have children nor do I want them; also not saying they’re perfect parents, I’m saying many parents drink to excess/lie about how much they drink
I know what you mean. There’s nothing wrong with someone who happens to have a child drinking alcohol. I think he misspoke, talking about people that have issues with alcohol that choose to drink with kids around. Now that, I’m sure everyone would be behind, just wish he stated it clearer!
Could have NOT said it any better. You hit all points. Very well said. 👏
That's why she didn't tell the truth in the beginning, like the good Dr. said., fear of judgement. Not to ride on your post, but all of those SOBER people that saw that man carrying the baby in a diaper in the cold, uh, hello. Nobody called the cops? It takes a village. Again thanks for your spot on comment 👍
It’s ok to have maybe a glass of wine or one drink to relax, but not really even okay to get tipsy, let alone pass out drunk with children there! Not trying to judge or condemn her, just saying you should do your best to abstain. I liked to drink and party when I was young, but I never got drunk unless my Mom or someone was watching the kids. When friends came over with children, z
I can’t imagine drinking to the point of passing out with an infant or even young toddlers in my care. That’s not normal and definitely not “most parents”. I also can’t imagine drinking like this and waking to find my baby missing and knowing ut was my fault I lost my child, my heart hurts for this family.
Pass- out drunk is a 'poor life choice', so is having random cats in for a sleepover. Does not make them automatically criminals though.
Agree on the passing out, but there are many perfectly good, pet quality strays lurking about in the hopes of becoming someone's housecat. Welcoming strays is a time-honored means of acquiring a cat.
Lisa would probably disagree. Poor little babe.
I think her getting so drunk that she passed out while caring for her children should qualify for criminal-level child neglect/ endangerment. I'm no legal expert, so that's just my unprofessional opinion.
It is the most logical explanation. Logic wins over personal opinions and egos.
It doesn't automatically make you a criminal, no, but it does greatly raise the odds.
Good evening Dr Grande, excellent analysis. I remember when this case happened. All of the news outlets carried the story. Very sad case.
As always I learn something new from your videos.
Have a wonderful Friday.
Thank you for your most probable theory of this case Dr. Grande. This was a crime of opportunity. Someone saw the moment and snatched Lisa and the three cell phones. Why take Lisa? Whoever took Lisa took everybody by surprise - including himself. The opportunistic criminal probably didn’t know what to do with Lisa. Unfortunately, she was never found. 😇🌵❤
No it just doesn’t make sense. There’s just too many coincidences and the far more likely scenario is it was the parents, probably the mother specifically. A criminal just happened to wander into a home where the dad was working late and the mum was passed out drunk, oh and luck would have it a baby! “Oooo I really wanted that, think I’ll take it, oh and these mobile phones because if I’m going to steal a baby this will help them track me!” And this master criminal got away with it?. No chance. Likely the baby was killed by the mum and placed under the bed. The phones placed in an obvious place to take by a passer by and once they were…. BINGO. “They must have been one of those baby and phone stealers I guess.” The man carrying the baby was probably the father when he returned home to dispose of the body now the phones were taken. The idea this stranger happened upon this house and took a baby and cell phones is absolute nonsense. I like Dr.Grande’s channel but he’s only human and on this occasion I believe he’s waaaaaay off.
More likely the mother killed her accidentally.
Most likely she was sold to someone who wanted a baby. Black market babies were a huge industry in the 50s.
Damn...the emojis at the end sentence is jarring af
"Are Lisa's parents responsible?" Depends how you define responsible. I'd say passing out drunk, ignoring your baby, and leaving the door unlocked makes you responsible.
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Thank you Dr Grande. I always wondered what happened to little Lisa.
This is horrible beyond comprehension.
Thank you for the review and happy Friday, Dr. Grande.❤
Glad to see you covered this one Dr. Grande
Thank you for covering this case, I was just thinking about how you should talk about it. Could you please cover the disappearance of Ayla Reynolds? She’s the biggest missing person case here in Maine
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So irresponsible. Some people don’t deserve children.
Please
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Make sleep tapes...
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Or a podcast!💓
Right! I would be the happiest person ever if he did some guided meditations or ASMR..
Jersey used the cell phones, meaning he was in the house, no question about it. Meth head’s usually have “friends” that they commit residential robberies with. Whatever evidence they cops have that cleared Jersey, lacks nuance and common sense. He was in the area at the time of the crime, he has prior behavior that would indicate he is capable of this. The only question I have is, who was with him…. The cell phones are the most important evidence. Jersey was in that house, he took and used those phones…. Places him at the scene, during the time of the crime. If he didn’t take the kid, he knows who did.
witnesses saw 1 male carrying a baby, so might have been Jersey alone or with someone else but then split up...makes no sense to me either.
Thank you for this one.
“Alcohol purchasing behavior” definitely a red flag
Was thinking, that the witnesses did not 'add' any other body language, odd or otherwise to that man carrying a toddler in a diaper at dawn. Is it not 'strange' that after that many hours of neglect, the toddler would not be squirming out the person's grip? Or at the very least wailing, from hunger? Could be someone known to the toddler perhaps? A very perplexing case, with those witnesses sightings.
Those sightings are so ominous
Thanks as always, Dr. Grande!
4/14/23 I don’t think parents are involved! If Jersey took baby for gf, no reason to harm her, but if out of his mind on Meth anything is possible! Justice for Lisa💔 Agree w/your analysis of what may of happened 🌵
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What an unbelievable case, wow.
Thanks Dr G that was very interesting , I haven’t heard of that case 💜
Thanks for covering. I live in the area and have followed it from the start. I’ve always got a very strong sense that the mother was involved or behind it, because she never seemed upset about Lisa being gone. She didn’t even help hunt for her and stopped cooperating with Law Enforcement. IDK if she sold her to someone or if she gave her too much medication, or hurt her by accident. Even though this is in the city, there are so many areas of woods, train tracks, rivers and abandoned areas that a baby could have been buried or dumped. The husband was very distraught so I don’t think he was involved.
Everyone always says the parent did it. Imagine having to face the world after something like this.
@@theSemiChristthat’s what always kills me. Multiple witnesses saying a dude was carrying a babe, she was with a friend so obviously she was confirmed to be drunk and she wasn’t checking on the baby at all. It would make more sense to me that if she hadn’t checked on her since 6 when she was more sober, why would she bring her into her own bedroom when even more drunk?
Just seems more likely that someone broke in, saw that she was passed out (if she had 10 wine glasses, she’s probably close to blacked out) and took the kid. For what reasons? Who knows but that just seems more reasonable.
Actually there are several interviews with the parents and they are clearly torn up about it and they stopped cooperating temporarily because if how they were being treated at the time. Deborah was on rx meds as well. I don't think either were involved personally, but none of us really know
@@Cinder_311 everyone has their own read on other’s reactions. She didn’t seem very upset to me. And it took weeks before LE could interview the boys because it had to be negotiated first. I wouldn’t care if they threw me in jail as long as they found my baby but she was more interested in staying out of jail.
Thank you for providing your first-hand information! I only heard about the case today, but think that IF the mother was involved, it was accidental (makes the possible outcome not better, granted). After all, it could have been the cat - but this does not explain the three missing cell phones, and this for me points to a two-legged stray. From the info available, my money would be on the Jersey "person".
Thank you and much love to you and your family
Reminds me of the Jon Benet case, but this baby was never found. So very sad 😞
Hello Dr. Grande, What a sad case. I hope the Mother stopped drinking, and I wish them peace in their futures. ❤from Jean
Thank you Dr. Grande. You hadn't mentioned New Jersey in so long, I thought you might have had a change of heart. Glad to hear I was wrong :)
Is he from NJ?
@@poempadgett4664 I don’t believe he is, however he often makes cheeky comments regarding New Jersey. I think he once told a story of being lost driving thru NJ or something like that. Since I’m a New Yorker, I can appreciate his dissatisfaction with their roadways, signs, etc!
@@poempadgett4664 no, he's from Dela(no)ware. 😊
Obviously, Debra was a conissouer of boxed wine.
Debra exudes class. 😊
!!Dr Grande!!
I’d be severely bored if it weren’t for your great mind/videos. Thanks for being an awesome human ❤
Agree ❤
Well done. So sad
This happened very close to where I went to junior high school. She did say at one point that she had also taken Xanax as well as drinking. Unfortunately the house is within two miles of the Missouri River. I never thought she knew what happened 💔
Dr. Grande. Do you think that it could have been someone they knew that took lisa? Or perhaps a acquaintance of the mother. ? Very sad story. I like your evening stories. 😊
❤ Thank You 🙏
Thanks Dr.
Hey Dr. Grande🥰 Thank you for the new video! This case has ALWAYS ALWAYS bothered me. I'm so so curious & excited to hear what you think! Much love to you🩷
I always wondered about this case. I remember when this happened
Hello 👋 good Dr. Grande 🎉😊
Thank you
PSA: Pretty sure drinking boxed wine doesn’t automatically equate you to being a bad mom.
Hope you're doing well Dr G
It's Heartbreaking this Precious Little Baby has Never been found!🥀🥀🥀🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️
Hello Dr. Grande, this is a very sad story. You mentioned that the house was not very clean therefore kind of indicating the family lifestyle. ( Father and Mother of the Year). I am always deeply offended when I think an innocent child could have suffered because of family habits (drinking). I believe in your final thoughts, that they were probably not involved. But there are many questions remaning to be answered. Such a heart breaking story. Thank you and Best Regards.
I think the Irwins were deeply flawed people and certainly not great parents, but I agree that it doesn't mean they killed their daughter. I absolutely believe that mom's changing story was a combination of guilt for not doing what she knows she should have to take care of her baby that night and a muddled memory from being very intoxicated.
@@alias-majik - How was the father a "not great" parent? He was out all night WORKING an extra job in addition to his regular job, while SHE didn't contribute anything financially. SHE was the "primary caregiver". SHE was responsible for the taking care of the children, just like she was responsible for cleaning the house wile he worked all day and night. She did neither.
@Broeheemed the house was described as unkempt and dirty. I also have a hard time believing he didn't know his wife's plan to drink that night. Just because she is primary caregiver, it does not excuse him from ensuring his child lives in a safe and clean home.
Txs
I trust Dr. Grande’s logic in criminal matters, more than I trust my own.
I don't even trust my birds out of the cage for that long without me checkin in on them what the heck
I wonder if the baby was smothered by accident while everyone was sleeping in the same bed. Strange that only the baby was in her own bed. Families who allow bed sharing usually start it when the kid is a baby.
Maybe they panicked and found a way to contact a criminal type who could then dispose of the body so they could then string together a kidnapping story.
The baby in the diaper might have been dead 😔
Sadly, all of your points may be true. Thank you.
No you can see it holding up it's back when he is carrying it on the gas station cam
The Twilight zone is apparently at the intersection of bad luck and bad decisions.
When infants disappear because of the parent’s neglect and lack of conscience always bring sadness to my face 😞a child is innocent, they didn’t choose to be in this world 🌎. I hope they find her even though it’s highly unlikely, if you don’t want the responsibility’s that comes with having a child , THEN DONT GET PREGNANT
And don't get anyone pregnant.
Lock your doors
Then they come thru the windows.
Aww her little dance on sofa. So cute. I hope she's still out there ♥️
Dr. Grande, what does the saying on your bunny t-shirts refer to? I'd like to order one.
I lived in the area at the time. Its always been thought the Mother was involved.
I agree with your conclusion. I do not think the parents are guilty.